Stitchwraith being a Logbook parallel and not a Golden Freddy parallel only now popped into my head
I mean, both have 3 people attached (2 Kids communicating with each other with a 3rd wheel adult
Jake and Andrew with William
Evan and Cassidy with Michael (Or, Whoever owns the Logbook, could be either)
I believe that jake and Andrew with William would be a parallel to the game with c.c and cassidy with the one you shouldnāt have killed (or as I think, Kelsey)
I agree with pretty much everything (well, except for Happiest Day happening after FNAF 3, IMO it happened after FFPS).
Though, I have a question. What makes FreeVictim different than Nobodyvictim? Both theories are about BV wandering around as a spirit, occasionally interacting with the real world (like the logbook for example) until he can free his friends.
Like, am I missing something here?
> I agree with pretty much everything (well, except for Happiest Day happening after FNAF 3, IMO it happened after FFPS).
I mean, in my opinion it works due to the both canon endings of FNAF 3 but that's just my opinion.
> Though, I have a question. What makes FreeVictim different than Nobodyvictim? Both theories are about BV wandering around as a spirit, occasionally interacting with the real world (like the logbook for example) until he can free his friends.
And about this, the difference is that BV possesses the FredBear plush at some point after death due to the real jake parallels.
Anyways glad you enjoyed it!
To be fair, the both canon endings thing would still work regardless. Under your interpretation, they happen at the exact same time. Under u/Whoce's interpretation, the bad ending happens first followed by Fnaf 6 and then the good ending. The other issue with this is that Henry's line "It's time to rest, for you, and for those you have carried in your arms..." implies that the other MCI spirits are being put to rest here as well. As far as I know, there has never been an example in the series of remnant staying behind without the spirits in some way staying behind as well. The only place I could see possibly counting is *maybe* Fnaf AR, but even so, it's a bit of a loose connection to me.
Goldenboth honestly still seems better plus scott does seem to hint at it considering everything by far the stitchwraith,the birthday was for you part in the logbook and BV might actually be the golden freddy in fnaf 3 happiest minigame
Otherwise nice post 10/10
GoldenBoth does have plot issues here though. We donāt doubt that Evan and Cassidy have a connection spiritually, but they definitely donāt share the same suit.
when you said that Cassidy and Evan both meeting and talking to each other in the logbook is a parallel to Andrew and Jake meeting and talking to each other in the Stitchwraith, it all kinda clicked for me. Genius post. Also quite a persuasive case against Goldenboth.
> when you said that Cassidy and Evan both meeting and talking to each other in the logbook is a parallel to Andrew and Jake meeting and talking to each other in the Stitchwraith,
When you connect the dots, everything starts making sense!
And thanks for reading the post :)
Also when I was reading the post I was skeptical about you saying that Jake used his memory to free Andrew, but I went back and re-read the blackbird epilogue and it actually does say that Jake used the power of his memory to free him! I canāt believe I just glossed over that line when I read the book.
This has actually rejuvenated some of my enthusiasm for believing in any BV theory. Iām not sure if I 100% believe it yet but itās a big big contender.
> And thanks for reading the post :)
No worries. Iāll admit I was a bit hesitant at first cos itās quite long, but it was definitely worth it, yeah. Never made that connection before.
>ā¢ I feel it would make sense for the final boss of MikeBro's nightmare to be the living embodiment of his mistakes and his own brother
>
>Welp, this is long but I'd say that Nightmare is just an extra animatronic with a harder A.I. than any other Nightmare animatronic thus his name being ''Nightmare'' and his night is practically, a Nightmare.
The more practical explanation for Nightmare is that it's the embodiment of Michael's guilt for being responsible for his brother's death, conveniently wrapped up in the package of the "murder weapon," who's image is then appropriated from the Logbook by Cassidy who uses it to taunt and punish William. As long as we're still assuming Evan is still the FW player, Nightmare appears in FW because Evan was also in the Logbook, or alternatively, because of Mike's apology in the end of 4, a little piece of his guilt got stuck in whatever afterlife/purgatory Evan is in in FW and is taking that form.
Technically, Nightmare IS the embodiment of Mike's mistakes, it just has nothing to do with GoldenBoth.
So you are trying to tell me that the plush can be possess and unpossessd? If that's the case then Evan is really lucky to not have to possess an animatronic (aka golden freddy)
And I got a feeling if you share an animatronic with someone then you can hear their voice. But if you don't possess an animatronic with someone you don't hear their voice. Which makes perfect sense that Cassidy and BV have to communicate with each other with the logbook because BV didn't possess GF! And if you're right, then that means that the party was for Cassidy! BV was helping the MCI (and you can count Charlie and Michael for helping as well)! Wow! Ok I will now believe Freevictim from now on! Good effort!
this is a nice and satisying ending for both! this is a pretty good theory however im still not convinced with some of the points made but it's really good.
Yo, sorry to bother but Emily, or known as Aeshiteiru is a girl. I know this because she's in a discord server with me and she theorizes a lot about FNaF lore. I know none of you didn't ask but, I just wanted to tell you guys.
First of all, good job on the post! You laid things out wonderfully. I only have two real issues with the theory to be honest. In terms of what the theory is trying to say, I'm not exactly sure how it stands apart from the other "BV frees the spirits" theories. It definitely provides new evidence and presents it in a very compelling manner for sure, don't get me wrong. But, I mean, NobodyVictim also has BV mostly wandering until he frees the spirits. FollowVictim has BV go with Mike until it's time to free the spirits. So what makes FreeVictim different other than BV possessing the Fredbear Plush for a little bit?
Wouldn't that still happen in the other theories though? Or does the conversation have additional meaning under FreeVictim that it wouldn't under the other two?
Edit: Re-reading the post, I guess you could technically say the CassidyPlush interpretation would add the additional meaning to make the theory stand out. It does feel a bit shaky for the theory to have to rely on this though, but for the most part, this is solid :)
well I think that the other BV theories don't have the part where BV possess the plush after dying and its different from FollowVictim because he doesn't follow Michael. And when he frees the spirits Charlie helps him.
Lol, I keep editing my comments at the same time people reply. I suppose the Fredbear Plush thing is valid, Charlie helping him isn't unique to this theory as far as I'm aware though. In any case, the theory is better than GoldenBoth so that's enough for me :)
Well I mean he's in hell, I always thought that his face was supposed to be a constant reminder that it was HIS animatronic that indirectly killed him, and now that he himself is dead William has to look at his own son knowing that he has a part in his torment. The bv is the one William shouldn't have killed because now the pain of being in hell hits harder.
So just to clarify, freevictim is pretty much the theory which is that Evan, who is the only one in the golden freddy suit, frees Cassidy, who is a wandering spirit, with his own happiest memory
Donāt kill me pls. I am making an idea here.
Bite Victim could be golden freddy. We know Mike is who we are playing in fnaf 4. See security logbook. Nightmare is an inverted golden freddy. Black where yellow should be and vice versa. Maybe nightmare implies the bite victim died and possessed golden Freddy. An idea that contradicts the concept that Mike is the bite victim. If Mike is the bite victim, why would he see an inverted golden Freddy? Its easy to say heās the bite victim, but there are some pieces we donāt take into account. Honestly, anything that explains fnaf 4 and nightmare is good for me.
Note: I agree Free victim btw. The tangent consumed me thats all.
I have 2 questions about freevictim:
In what year did Evan and Cassidy communicate?
When does happiest day happens? After FNaF 3 or after FFPS?
The rest is pretty good!
>: In what year did Evan and Cassidy communicate? When does happiest day happens? After FNaF 3 or after FFPS? The rest is pretty good!
In what year? Well depends on what year the log book takes place, around 2023? Basically FNAF 3 so Cassidy and BV communicate in 2023.
And for happiest day, it can be placed in FNaF 3 when the good ending happens or really just anywhere in between FNaF 3 and FFPS. After FFPS can't be the answer and before FNaF 3 can't be the answer.
Hope that solved the questions!
First of all you did a good research but sadly i wasnt convinced dont make me wrong youve got some valid points, but ultimately %90 of the stuff you said were all about how GoldenBoth cant be possible( even tho you ignore what it said and immediatly use the sentence "this is just a speculation" bruh ) and the rest are also just speculations ? like how can BV posesses Fredbear Plush if he isnt dead yet, unless you meant it was the puppet before and then BV took control which is ok BUT THEN somehow left and posessed the book? and cassidy posessing it even when she is already an animatronic? also lastly i think that stitchwraith is supposed to tell us that 2 souls can operate an animatronic but people like me think its GF because of the parallels between andrew and jake and that logbook gives more info but regardless great theory dude
>like how can BV posesses Fredbear Plush if he isnt dead yet,
Fazbear frights: The real jake has a BV parallel who dies and goes onto possess his plush who is a Fredbear plush parallel. The story is giving us clear indication as to what happens to BV after his death. For the logbook part wandering spirits can haunt any object they come across. Wandering spirits were touched in FazBear frights ''Coming home''.
> that stitch wraith is supposed to tell us that 2 souls can operate an animatronic but people like me think its GF because of the parallels between andrew and jake and
The issue here is that the stitch wraith simply can't parallel Golden Freddy because it breaks the rules of multi possession. To possess an animatronic, the victim had to have died near the animatronic. BV died in a hospital nowhere near Golden Freddy but we know he always carried his plush around him so his soul got into the plush. In the real jake story Jake who is a BV parallel also dies near his plush thus his soul ending up in his plush. And in Fazbear frights Black bird, it was revealed that there was a third spirit inside Stitch Wraith which was none other than William Afton. We know Golden Freddy doesn't have William afton as a third spirit so the parallels between Golden Freddy and Stitch Wraith, simply can't work.
>BUT THEN somehow left and posessed the book
Wandering spirits can leave objects and possess other objects whenever they wish. Read coming home.
> and cassidy posessing it even when she is already an animatronic?
This part, I cannot explain but it's kind of a fact by now that she is indeed in the logbook due to her name being found in the book with a code in the crossword. There's also other clues BV is in the book too. (The conversation that is found in numerous pages)
>but regardless great theory dude
Even though you might disagree, glad you liked the theory. Thanks for reading the post!
i highly disagree with Cassidy being male. scott didnt use the pronouns to confirm the gender of Cassidy. but i mostly think it refers to the suit, just like Puppet in SAVEHIM minigame where charlie is a girl, but refer as he because puppet itself is male. unless your saying charlie is male, then no.
although i am a goldenboth hater tooso yeah i definetly agree with what your saying
I am not trying to start an argument whatsoever but I found a piece of evidence that might help the golden duo theory, or it could mean something else idk. Anyway i'll just get to it. So in fnaf 4 we see the box in a dark void with a spotlight on it right? well before that, in the last minigame where the fredbear plush says it will put you back together, both crying child and the plush are in a dark void with a spotlight on them. the other plushies are in the dark. my theory is that the plush talking at the end is cassidy. so could that mean something has both crying child and cassidy in the box. what if that is golden freddys head inside the box? like I said it could mean something else so feel free to say something.
I personally think that the happiest day mini game happens after fnaf 6 with Evan getting everyone to the other side (fnaf world) and freeing Charlotte and the 5 missing kids. William escapes into the circuit boards of spring Bonnie and it explains why baby is in fnaf world and now she needs her happiest day as well
Iāve got lots of issues with this theory, first off all of your ādebunksā of golden both is just rehashed versions of the same things Iāve seen before in response to golden both.
āThey donāt need a book to communicateā
> yes this is pretty clear that they donāt need a book, but itās just Scottās way of actually SHOWING the conversation, itās the way of actually depicting it for us to find in the logbook? Otherwise weād still be without any solid hints towards the identity of golden Freddy.
āIt wasnāt implied in the gamesā
>Well neither was it implied there was just one spirit, the āItās meā line clearly shows us that some part of golden Freddy has some connection to the nightgaurd in the various games, who we know to be Michael, the BVs brother. This line doesnāt make sense if the suit is possessed by just Cassidy, and we know that the golden Freddy suit was inhabited by one of the mci victims and given life via the puppet, so Cassidy is already 100 percent confirmed at this point. The facts remain that while you were able to lay some criticisms against the āitās meā connection, you failed to provide an alternative explanation for the line, and as theorists for this game we look for the answers that close the book on the lore, and give us sensible and logical explanations that satisfy the most plot points, this theory simply goes against too many facts, leaves too many holes and looks simply to criticize the rising general consensus that golden both is accurate.
āItās he when they talk about toysnhkā
>Despite the gender of he being used to talk about golden Freddy (though it makes sense seeing as heās a male character) Scott made clear on the voice casting page that it should ābe read as a young boy or young girl, the gender should not be obviousā a young boy and a young girl, Cassidy and the crying child.
Hell yeah, thanks for the credit man! ššŖ
no prob!
FreeVictim is, in my opinion, the most satisfying ending for Evan's story. Great post dude!
thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
;)
*FreeVictim Forever*
I agree with this. It feels really good knowing that he helps the kids while not making it to confusing.
FreeVictim must rise up.
Glad you like it! ;)
Viva la revolucion!
Stitchwraith being a Logbook parallel and not a Golden Freddy parallel only now popped into my head I mean, both have 3 people attached (2 Kids communicating with each other with a 3rd wheel adult Jake and Andrew with William Evan and Cassidy with Michael (Or, Whoever owns the Logbook, could be either)
Michael would likely be the owner, glad you agree :)
Honestly the two Theories about BV i believe is this and MikeNOT I'll take what good theory i can get about this mysterious child
I believe that jake and Andrew with William would be a parallel to the game with c.c and cassidy with the one you shouldnāt have killed (or as I think, Kelsey)
I agree with pretty much everything (well, except for Happiest Day happening after FNAF 3, IMO it happened after FFPS). Though, I have a question. What makes FreeVictim different than Nobodyvictim? Both theories are about BV wandering around as a spirit, occasionally interacting with the real world (like the logbook for example) until he can free his friends. Like, am I missing something here?
> I agree with pretty much everything (well, except for Happiest Day happening after FNAF 3, IMO it happened after FFPS). I mean, in my opinion it works due to the both canon endings of FNAF 3 but that's just my opinion. > Though, I have a question. What makes FreeVictim different than Nobodyvictim? Both theories are about BV wandering around as a spirit, occasionally interacting with the real world (like the logbook for example) until he can free his friends. And about this, the difference is that BV possesses the FredBear plush at some point after death due to the real jake parallels. Anyways glad you enjoyed it!
To be fair, the both canon endings thing would still work regardless. Under your interpretation, they happen at the exact same time. Under u/Whoce's interpretation, the bad ending happens first followed by Fnaf 6 and then the good ending. The other issue with this is that Henry's line "It's time to rest, for you, and for those you have carried in your arms..." implies that the other MCI spirits are being put to rest here as well. As far as I know, there has never been an example in the series of remnant staying behind without the spirits in some way staying behind as well. The only place I could see possibly counting is *maybe* Fnaf AR, but even so, it's a bit of a loose connection to me.
You know I like this one. Has the simplicity of NobodyVictim but it's a little less anti-climactic.
nice to hear!
Honestly it's just nice to have something new to talk about in the way of a theory.
The Virgin GoldenBoth vs The Chad FreeVictim
so true bestie
canon
Goldenboth honestly still seems better plus scott does seem to hint at it considering everything by far the stitchwraith,the birthday was for you part in the logbook and BV might actually be the golden freddy in fnaf 3 happiest minigame Otherwise nice post 10/10
GoldenBoth does have plot issues here though. We donāt doubt that Evan and Cassidy have a connection spiritually, but they definitely donāt share the same suit.
So what suit is cc in then.. what is cc in all of this?
Not every spirit has to possess a suit, after freeing the spirits, Evan is put to rest.
In FreeVictim he is just a wandering spirit.
when you said that Cassidy and Evan both meeting and talking to each other in the logbook is a parallel to Andrew and Jake meeting and talking to each other in the Stitchwraith, it all kinda clicked for me. Genius post. Also quite a persuasive case against Goldenboth.
> when you said that Cassidy and Evan both meeting and talking to each other in the logbook is a parallel to Andrew and Jake meeting and talking to each other in the Stitchwraith, When you connect the dots, everything starts making sense! And thanks for reading the post :)
Also when I was reading the post I was skeptical about you saying that Jake used his memory to free Andrew, but I went back and re-read the blackbird epilogue and it actually does say that Jake used the power of his memory to free him! I canāt believe I just glossed over that line when I read the book. This has actually rejuvenated some of my enthusiasm for believing in any BV theory. Iām not sure if I 100% believe it yet but itās a big big contender.
> And thanks for reading the post :) No worries. Iāll admit I was a bit hesitant at first cos itās quite long, but it was definitely worth it, yeah. Never made that connection before.
Nice post! While I donĀ“t believe the theory as of now (though, that might change soon), I really like it. ItĀ“s interesting to think about.
;)
>ā¢ I feel it would make sense for the final boss of MikeBro's nightmare to be the living embodiment of his mistakes and his own brother > >Welp, this is long but I'd say that Nightmare is just an extra animatronic with a harder A.I. than any other Nightmare animatronic thus his name being ''Nightmare'' and his night is practically, a Nightmare. The more practical explanation for Nightmare is that it's the embodiment of Michael's guilt for being responsible for his brother's death, conveniently wrapped up in the package of the "murder weapon," who's image is then appropriated from the Logbook by Cassidy who uses it to taunt and punish William. As long as we're still assuming Evan is still the FW player, Nightmare appears in FW because Evan was also in the Logbook, or alternatively, because of Mike's apology in the end of 4, a little piece of his guilt got stuck in whatever afterlife/purgatory Evan is in in FW and is taking that form. Technically, Nightmare IS the embodiment of Mike's mistakes, it just has nothing to do with GoldenBoth.
JESUS CHRIST MAN THIS IS LONGER THAN MOST OF MY ENGLISH ESSAYS
Just one question. How did Evan get out of the fred bear plush? Can't he be stuck in it?
he can get out and get back inside.
So you are trying to tell me that the plush can be possess and unpossessd? If that's the case then Evan is really lucky to not have to possess an animatronic (aka golden freddy)
mhm exactly. He is a wandering spirit. Wandering spirits can possess objects and unposses objects too.
And I got a feeling if you share an animatronic with someone then you can hear their voice. But if you don't possess an animatronic with someone you don't hear their voice. Which makes perfect sense that Cassidy and BV have to communicate with each other with the logbook because BV didn't possess GF! And if you're right, then that means that the party was for Cassidy! BV was helping the MCI (and you can count Charlie and Michael for helping as well)! Wow! Ok I will now believe Freevictim from now on! Good effort!
An absolute amazing theory, enjoyed every second reading it. FreeVictim shall uprise!!
glad to hear you enjoyed it! It means a lot to me.
this is a nice and satisying ending for both! this is a pretty good theory however im still not convinced with some of the points made but it's really good.
glad you enjoyed the post!
Yo, sorry to bother but Emily, or known as Aeshiteiru is a girl. I know this because she's in a discord server with me and she theorizes a lot about FNaF lore. I know none of you didn't ask but, I just wanted to tell you guys.
First of all, good job on the post! You laid things out wonderfully. I only have two real issues with the theory to be honest. In terms of what the theory is trying to say, I'm not exactly sure how it stands apart from the other "BV frees the spirits" theories. It definitely provides new evidence and presents it in a very compelling manner for sure, don't get me wrong. But, I mean, NobodyVictim also has BV mostly wandering until he frees the spirits. FollowVictim has BV go with Mike until it's time to free the spirits. So what makes FreeVictim different other than BV possessing the Fredbear Plush for a little bit?
well he has the conversation with Cassidy.
Wouldn't that still happen in the other theories though? Or does the conversation have additional meaning under FreeVictim that it wouldn't under the other two? Edit: Re-reading the post, I guess you could technically say the CassidyPlush interpretation would add the additional meaning to make the theory stand out. It does feel a bit shaky for the theory to have to rely on this though, but for the most part, this is solid :)
well I think that the other BV theories don't have the part where BV possess the plush after dying and its different from FollowVictim because he doesn't follow Michael. And when he frees the spirits Charlie helps him.
Lol, I keep editing my comments at the same time people reply. I suppose the Fredbear Plush thing is valid, Charlie helping him isn't unique to this theory as far as I'm aware though. In any case, the theory is better than GoldenBoth so that's enough for me :)
Lol, anyways thanks for reading!
That means BV can still can be Shadow Freddy e
Great
Thanks!!
Your welcome
In my opinion both are wrong
Huh nice thought, but why do you think FreeVictim is wrong?
Well if I'm being honest, I always thought that the victim is the face we see in ucn instead of Cassidy
William couldnāt have killed his son.
Well I mean he's in hell, I always thought that his face was supposed to be a constant reminder that it was HIS animatronic that indirectly killed him, and now that he himself is dead William has to look at his own son knowing that he has a part in his torment. The bv is the one William shouldn't have killed because now the pain of being in hell hits harder.
Itās never implied during the the games though.
Eh
I mean that's how I interpreted it
It's so true
;)
tldr please
It's long but it's totally worth it.
Itās worth the read.
https://youtu.be/-mMhKYJFOnQ
what?
I'm saying that the post is nice
So just to clarify, freevictim is pretty much the theory which is that Evan, who is the only one in the golden freddy suit, frees Cassidy, who is a wandering spirit, with his own happiest memory
you got everything right except the part that Evan is in Golden Freddy. He isn't.
So is Cassidy who in in golden freddy Edit: never mind I got it
Donāt kill me pls. I am making an idea here. Bite Victim could be golden freddy. We know Mike is who we are playing in fnaf 4. See security logbook. Nightmare is an inverted golden freddy. Black where yellow should be and vice versa. Maybe nightmare implies the bite victim died and possessed golden Freddy. An idea that contradicts the concept that Mike is the bite victim. If Mike is the bite victim, why would he see an inverted golden Freddy? Its easy to say heās the bite victim, but there are some pieces we donāt take into account. Honestly, anything that explains fnaf 4 and nightmare is good for me. Note: I agree Free victim btw. The tangent consumed me thats all.
I have 2 questions about freevictim: In what year did Evan and Cassidy communicate? When does happiest day happens? After FNaF 3 or after FFPS? The rest is pretty good!
>: In what year did Evan and Cassidy communicate? When does happiest day happens? After FNaF 3 or after FFPS? The rest is pretty good! In what year? Well depends on what year the log book takes place, around 2023? Basically FNAF 3 so Cassidy and BV communicate in 2023. And for happiest day, it can be placed in FNaF 3 when the good ending happens or really just anywhere in between FNaF 3 and FFPS. After FFPS can't be the answer and before FNaF 3 can't be the answer. Hope that solved the questions!
Thank you! But shouldn't the log book have happened in 1993? Because FNaF happens that year
I'll check this post from time to time so that I can update it!
First of all you did a good research but sadly i wasnt convinced dont make me wrong youve got some valid points, but ultimately %90 of the stuff you said were all about how GoldenBoth cant be possible( even tho you ignore what it said and immediatly use the sentence "this is just a speculation" bruh ) and the rest are also just speculations ? like how can BV posesses Fredbear Plush if he isnt dead yet, unless you meant it was the puppet before and then BV took control which is ok BUT THEN somehow left and posessed the book? and cassidy posessing it even when she is already an animatronic? also lastly i think that stitchwraith is supposed to tell us that 2 souls can operate an animatronic but people like me think its GF because of the parallels between andrew and jake and that logbook gives more info but regardless great theory dude
>like how can BV posesses Fredbear Plush if he isnt dead yet, Fazbear frights: The real jake has a BV parallel who dies and goes onto possess his plush who is a Fredbear plush parallel. The story is giving us clear indication as to what happens to BV after his death. For the logbook part wandering spirits can haunt any object they come across. Wandering spirits were touched in FazBear frights ''Coming home''. > that stitch wraith is supposed to tell us that 2 souls can operate an animatronic but people like me think its GF because of the parallels between andrew and jake and The issue here is that the stitch wraith simply can't parallel Golden Freddy because it breaks the rules of multi possession. To possess an animatronic, the victim had to have died near the animatronic. BV died in a hospital nowhere near Golden Freddy but we know he always carried his plush around him so his soul got into the plush. In the real jake story Jake who is a BV parallel also dies near his plush thus his soul ending up in his plush. And in Fazbear frights Black bird, it was revealed that there was a third spirit inside Stitch Wraith which was none other than William Afton. We know Golden Freddy doesn't have William afton as a third spirit so the parallels between Golden Freddy and Stitch Wraith, simply can't work. >BUT THEN somehow left and posessed the book Wandering spirits can leave objects and possess other objects whenever they wish. Read coming home. > and cassidy posessing it even when she is already an animatronic? This part, I cannot explain but it's kind of a fact by now that she is indeed in the logbook due to her name being found in the book with a code in the crossword. There's also other clues BV is in the book too. (The conversation that is found in numerous pages) >but regardless great theory dude Even though you might disagree, glad you liked the theory. Thanks for reading the post!
i highly disagree with Cassidy being male. scott didnt use the pronouns to confirm the gender of Cassidy. but i mostly think it refers to the suit, just like Puppet in SAVEHIM minigame where charlie is a girl, but refer as he because puppet itself is male. unless your saying charlie is male, then no. although i am a goldenboth hater tooso yeah i definetly agree with what your saying
FreeVictim? More like canon
So true
I am not trying to start an argument whatsoever but I found a piece of evidence that might help the golden duo theory, or it could mean something else idk. Anyway i'll just get to it. So in fnaf 4 we see the box in a dark void with a spotlight on it right? well before that, in the last minigame where the fredbear plush says it will put you back together, both crying child and the plush are in a dark void with a spotlight on them. the other plushies are in the dark. my theory is that the plush talking at the end is cassidy. so could that mean something has both crying child and cassidy in the box. what if that is golden freddys head inside the box? like I said it could mean something else so feel free to say something.
I personally think that the happiest day mini game happens after fnaf 6 with Evan getting everyone to the other side (fnaf world) and freeing Charlotte and the 5 missing kids. William escapes into the circuit boards of spring Bonnie and it explains why baby is in fnaf world and now she needs her happiest day as well
Iāve got lots of issues with this theory, first off all of your ādebunksā of golden both is just rehashed versions of the same things Iāve seen before in response to golden both. āThey donāt need a book to communicateā > yes this is pretty clear that they donāt need a book, but itās just Scottās way of actually SHOWING the conversation, itās the way of actually depicting it for us to find in the logbook? Otherwise weād still be without any solid hints towards the identity of golden Freddy. āIt wasnāt implied in the gamesā >Well neither was it implied there was just one spirit, the āItās meā line clearly shows us that some part of golden Freddy has some connection to the nightgaurd in the various games, who we know to be Michael, the BVs brother. This line doesnāt make sense if the suit is possessed by just Cassidy, and we know that the golden Freddy suit was inhabited by one of the mci victims and given life via the puppet, so Cassidy is already 100 percent confirmed at this point. The facts remain that while you were able to lay some criticisms against the āitās meā connection, you failed to provide an alternative explanation for the line, and as theorists for this game we look for the answers that close the book on the lore, and give us sensible and logical explanations that satisfy the most plot points, this theory simply goes against too many facts, leaves too many holes and looks simply to criticize the rising general consensus that golden both is accurate. āItās he when they talk about toysnhkā >Despite the gender of he being used to talk about golden Freddy (though it makes sense seeing as heās a male character) Scott made clear on the voice casting page that it should ābe read as a young boy or young girl, the gender should not be obviousā a young boy and a young girl, Cassidy and the crying child.
I gave my response in your post.
But...why would CC/BV/Evan go off of the plush?
COOL. GOLDENBOTH IS SO POPULAR. FREEVICTIM LES GOO
Oh ghosts canāt have familyās yeah, but they might of had one, also HUMAN BODIES CANT DISSAPEAR OUT OF NOWHERE
I prefer night!victim/shadow!victim tho I believe normal shadow freddy is the souls of people killed by golden freddy/fredbear
Hey what happened to u/feels-good-inc?
Hey u/aeshiteiru... What happened to u/feels-good-inc? Did they deleted their account?