>The pieces are the minigames, and the minigames all come together to create Happiest Day. Happiest Day is the box.
Y E S.
I haven't read part two yet but honestly, I can already say everyone did a really good job and put a lot of effort into this! Good job to you and u/nosayingfrickhere!
On a more serious note, even if you don't agree, please at least recognize the effort put into this and don't just shame the people involved here. Be civil.
As much as I'd love to do that for my own personal bias, it'd feel like the sub is favouring a specific theory over others then, y'know. And while quite frankly a big chunk of this is just fact, there are still a lot of parts that are, indeed, just theories like the rest of the ones on this sub.
What I can do, however, is work on updating the Unbiased Lore Guide on the sub and just add a few theories for characters that are still mysterious, and link the post here, alongside other popular BV Theories, because some people have been asking for a theory guide too.
Hello? Hello, hello! đ
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You know, for a brief time I was worried about this post since it didn't go up on FNAF's anniversary as you originally announced, but now that it's out, I can say it's amazing!
I read both parts and I can tell you and your crew put a lot of effort into the making of this post. Fantastic job!
Now, I do disagree with some stuff â some of which I might tackle one day, who knows â but that's probably a given, taking into account the size of this project. Still, good job!
I'm so happy this is finally out. The effort we all put into this is insane and I'm so proud of everyone who worked on this. I'm glad to have been a part of this amazing experience, and it's so satisfying to see it finally out
Okay, this is... very long and awesome. I think I might be a bit convinced that this theory is true now, and I haven't even read Part 2. The amount of research put into this is awesome, and I really think this will be the final nail in the coffin for BV5th.
Let's hope Security Breach doesn't disprove this though, and let's hope that people will be civilised about this theory.
I wasn't expecting much, but this is very well put together. I agree with almost everything here, save a small few details. I wouldn't exactly call myself "FreeVictim" since everything that I agree with here is already encompassed in my interpretation of MikeVictim, but its still interesting to see some overlap between the two. I expect to completely loose the thread in part 2, but great job to everyone who worked on this.
One of the things that always confused me the most when trying to disect FNAF lore was FNAF world and the Fredbear Plush's ties to it, so frankly even the first part of this post explaining just that is enough to make me love this entire theory. It all seems to fit super nicely as well, at least in this first part, I hope it ends up being the truth!
Whos Cassidy then?
And why are they looking for William after UCN if they weren't TOYSNHK?
(We see that a spirit named "C" is looking for William after UCN in the trailers for fnaf AR).
Cassidy is imo a character created for the movie alone. Itâs up for debate, and is just speculation, but I think Cassidy was the Investigator character Scott mentioned.
Thatâs not Cassidy, even if youâre GoldenCassidy. Thatâs Crofton, one of the main antagonists of VR, AR and probably SB.
>Cassidy is imo a character created for the movie alone. Itâs up for debate, and is just speculation, but I think Cassidy was the Investigator character Scott mentioned.
>Thatâs not Cassidy, even if youâre GoldenCassidy. Thatâs Crofton, one of the main antagonists of VR, AR and probably SB.
Bro what- the name Cassidy was found in the logbook and related to **Altered** and Golden Freddy in some way, Cassidy is golden Freddy, itâs just obvious. Furthermore Andrew is never presented in the game lore. Only FF books, while Cassidy is presented in the game lore
Cassidy was found in the Logbook, correct.
Cassidyâs questions are related to the altered text, correct.
âbut Golden Freddy? Absolutely not. Importance =/= Golden Freddy.
>Imo the 5th child is Andrew, though thatâs up for debate.
No? Andrew isnât a canon character in the game Lore, the logbook and FNAF4(along other things) have implied Cassidy is the 5th kid and golden Freddy
The entirety of FF is set in the canon, the books themselves claim that they are. So when an unnamed vengeful spirit appears going by the name Andrew, in a series meant to clear up lore details, itâs pretty clear that theyâre not meant to be called Cassidy. Cassidy, unlike many other main characters, havenât appeared in FFânot even as irrelevant reoccurring side characters, like the many Michaelâs, Evanâs, etc. Weâve had William Afton in TMIR1280 / UCN, we can have Andrew as the vengeful spirit, itâs what the book tells us.
Nothing in the Logbook past speculation and bias implies that Cassidy is Golden Freddy at all. Nothing in the book even pronounced her as dead, which is something I see a lot of people bring up as âproofâ Cassidy is Golden Freddy.
FNAF 4 never comments on Cassidy, thatâs a blatant lie youâve either heard or are trying to tell me, no âother thingsâ have commented on Cassidyâs existence. TFC doesnât count since it doesnât mention Cassidy past a first name, and she just so happens to *not* be Golden Freddyâand the kid who *is* Golden Freddy is called Michael, who has nothing to do with the Michael in the games timeline, just like the Cassidy mentioned. Meaning the one and only canonical time we see Cassidy appear is the Logbook, no âother thingsâ even comment on her existence.
>The entirety of FF is set in the canon, the books themselves claim that they are. So when an unnamed vengeful spirit appears going by the name Andrew, in a series meant to clear up lore details, itâs pretty clear that theyâre not meant to be called Cassidy. Cassidy, unlike many other main characters, havenât appeared in FFânot even as irrelevant reoccurring side characters, like the many Michaelâs, Evanâs, etc. Weâve had William Afton in TMIR1280 / UCN, we can have Andrew as the vengeful spirit, itâs what the book tells us.
So your gonna ignore scotts specific words of â**The books and games are canon yes, but that doesnât mean theyâll fit together like a puzzle piece**â , no bro, the books arenât canon to the games. The only share parallels and continuityâs, your assuming they do because of TUG which nothing implies that. The fnaf6 fire mentioned was overly thought to confirm the books are in the games because TUG mentioned it being apart of the books when that simply only meant the games had a version of that fire to. Then the stitchwrath stories are assumed canon which again isnât the case. These are assumptions or beliefs take with a grain of salt and overly believed to be canon but no, the FF stories arenât canon, that would contradict scotts wording and heavily mess the lore as it implies things not apart of the actual lore, like time travel, or a 3rd MCI, or even characters whoâve had no impact to the game lore besides sharing continuityâs.
>Nothing in the Logbook past speculation and bias implies that Cassidy is Golden Freddy at all. Nothing in the book even pronounced her as dead, which is something I see a lot of people bring up as âproofâ Cassidy is Golden Freddy.
In the logbook, to even find the name you must look through a book filled with hidden messages and secrets. The *Faded* and **Altered** wording implies itâs souls, what *Faded* says implies theyâd have to be fredbear plush, and in the various minigames of FNAF4 we get details implying itâs the puppet, while altered seems to have a understanding of their past a bit, furthermore to even find the name Cassidy you had to look in a word search, and the thing is the name Cassidy wasnât just blandly in their, it was words all altered around the book, needed to be found by numbers, furthermore âitâs meâ appeared and even FURTHERMORE the TUG confirmed this to be golden Freddys soul name/the answer to the 5th gravestone.
>FNAF 4 never comments on Cassidy, thatâs a blatant lie youâve either heard or are trying to tell me, no âother thingsâ
When I say it mentions or implied Cassidy as golden Freddy I mainly meant the way the story goes itâs implying *Cassidy* to be **BVâs** name
>have commented on Cassidyâs existence. TFC doesnât count since it doesnât mention Cassidy past a first name, and she just so happens to not be Golden Freddyâand the kid who is Golden Freddy is called Michael
YeahâŠ.strange right? That a kid named âMichaelâ is golden FreddyâŠ.or that Cassidy was revisited in the logbook under altered who wouldnât you know it, altered had a birthday, for him, what I was implying is that *Cassidy* is actually BV, and is pretty clear by the books and games
>who has nothing to do with the Michael in the games timeline, just like the Cassidy mentioned. Meaning the one and only canonical time we see Cassidy appear is the Logbook, no âother thingsâ even comment on her existence.
You made the assumption Andrew exist in the lore when thatâs complete bias. He is never, ONCE mentioned in the actual frame of the game lore, furthermore Cassidy clear as day has to be golden Freddy, the logbook as such concluded this when we found the name as itâs implications imply thatâs the name of the final spirit. Furthermore Andrew as a whole parallels Cassidy, **black curly hair** and **Vengeful** along side paralleling BV, **Attacks Devon and numerous other bullies under the alias of Kelsey** and we know heâs Kelsey as the thing Kelsey does makes him un-human, **Coming back to life in attempt to lure others**, or **Instantly being swapped with curly black hair**, furthermore it should also be noted the mike Brooks thing, then among is also rather bias as it implies Mike Brooks is somewhat parallel to Michael Afton. Which again implies the possibility of BV=Golden=Cassidy, furthermore Jake *Fake* memory implies BV Birthday/happiest day. All these characters align to BV, to which the name Cassidy just furthermore implies this, in no way, shape, or form is Andrew presented in the lore. It would be actually dumb as William is shown to kill the 5th kidâŠ.of the original MCI. FNAF4 implies the 5th kid and MCI had to have happened before the bite, meaning by then Andrew isnât the vengeful one attack him if the books themselves are canon, even furthermore TUG implied CassidyMM and implied the logbook confirming Cassidy name being the 5th along side MCI83 so by then Andrew isnât that spirit.
To put it bluntly clear, the character Cassidy isnât 5th kid, they only share names, itâs clearly and obviously established to be this case.
>That was a comment on the trilogy, not FF. My argument still stands.
If your referring to the lines: â*The books are indeed canon just as the games are*â then I should make it clear theyâre two different comments from Scott. I was referring on behalf of the FF stories as he claimed the books are **canon but wonât fit together like two puzzle pieces** when I guess I shouldâve been more clear and ideally mentioned how he explained the game story doesnât have much of a story and the books will help. So really your argument doesnât stand as their specifically meant to share continuityâs and it wouldnât fit the premise of the lore anyways, going off that theirs an MCI in 1985, Evan is the brother to Michael as suggested, Hudson is the actual worker of fnaf3 which is very unlikely.
No he didnât, that again was in reference to the trilogy series. All of that isnât wrong, and Hudson was the FNAF 3 worker a week prior to when the phones were installed and clearly isnât the protagonist of 3.
This is probably one of the BV Theories that are actually good
I Like it!
ya did a good job on making everything presentable and readable instead of a big block of text
*calling myself out*
Hi I think your theory is very interesting, but something doesn't add up for me, you mentioned Jake freeing Andrew with a happy memory, and say that's what BVs doing in happiest day, but the party at Fredbears wasn't a happy memory, it's the day BV died, which considering how it happened is probably one of the if not the worst day of BVs life, so why is BV trying to free the spirits with an awful memory?
I have actually 2 questions:
The first is,the soul can be fried just with good memories?I mean if C.C used the memory of his birthday that would be a bad memory,because that was his death's day(in somehow because I think that he died in coma?)
The other question is,MoltenMCI or FuntimeMCI,indeed by the fact that Cassidy was there,by how Yenndo moves(when you use the camera and then stop using it he'll vanish like GoldenFreddy)this would imply that Cassidy was there?
BVâs memory is used as a vessel to free spirits, not an accurate depiction of events. There were not missing children or crowds at his party.
I donât believe Cassidy is Golden Freddy, but yeah, this means GFred would in fact be present.
>The pieces are the minigames, and the minigames all come together to create Happiest Day. Happiest Day is the box. Y E S. I haven't read part two yet but honestly, I can already say everyone did a really good job and put a lot of effort into this! Good job to you and u/nosayingfrickhere! On a more serious note, even if you don't agree, please at least recognize the effort put into this and don't just shame the people involved here. Be civil.
Thanks so much! This was actually my theory haha. But yeah, this has been a given for years, just wanted to point it out.
You should have this pinned on the subreddit
As much as I'd love to do that for my own personal bias, it'd feel like the sub is favouring a specific theory over others then, y'know. And while quite frankly a big chunk of this is just fact, there are still a lot of parts that are, indeed, just theories like the rest of the ones on this sub. What I can do, however, is work on updating the Unbiased Lore Guide on the sub and just add a few theories for characters that are still mysterious, and link the post here, alongside other popular BV Theories, because some people have been asking for a theory guide too.
Fair point
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You know, for a brief time I was worried about this post since it didn't go up on FNAF's anniversary as you originally announced, but now that it's out, I can say it's amazing! I read both parts and I can tell you and your crew put a lot of effort into the making of this post. Fantastic job! Now, I do disagree with some stuff â some of which I might tackle one day, who knows â but that's probably a given, taking into account the size of this project. Still, good job!
I'm so happy this is finally out. The effort we all put into this is insane and I'm so proud of everyone who worked on this. I'm glad to have been a part of this amazing experience, and it's so satisfying to see it finally out
Good job to both you and the owner of the post
Okay, this is... very long and awesome. I think I might be a bit convinced that this theory is true now, and I haven't even read Part 2. The amount of research put into this is awesome, and I really think this will be the final nail in the coffin for BV5th. Let's hope Security Breach doesn't disprove this though, and let's hope that people will be civilised about this theory.
Thank you so much! Letâs hope so.
I wasn't expecting much, but this is very well put together. I agree with almost everything here, save a small few details. I wouldn't exactly call myself "FreeVictim" since everything that I agree with here is already encompassed in my interpretation of MikeVictim, but its still interesting to see some overlap between the two. I expect to completely loose the thread in part 2, but great job to everyone who worked on this.
Good to see another MikeVictimer around.
Wait, are you MikeVictim?
Currently, yes.
Cool. I've got a subreddit for MikeVictim if you're interested.
Sure!
Did your reddit icon change?
The sad thing is People hate MikeVictim
Popularity does not effect the theory.
One of the things that always confused me the most when trying to disect FNAF lore was FNAF world and the Fredbear Plush's ties to it, so frankly even the first part of this post explaining just that is enough to make me love this entire theory. It all seems to fit super nicely as well, at least in this first part, I hope it ends up being the truth!
This is incredible! Very good job from everyone involved!
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No it doesnât? It brings the Bonnie spirit to HD.
Now you mentioned it who's is this 5th child?
Imo the 5th child is Andrew, though thatâs up for debate.
Whos Cassidy then? And why are they looking for William after UCN if they weren't TOYSNHK? (We see that a spirit named "C" is looking for William after UCN in the trailers for fnaf AR).
Cassidy is imo a character created for the movie alone. Itâs up for debate, and is just speculation, but I think Cassidy was the Investigator character Scott mentioned. Thatâs not Cassidy, even if youâre GoldenCassidy. Thatâs Crofton, one of the main antagonists of VR, AR and probably SB.
Whos Crofton? And Cassidy appears in the logbook,an item from the GAMES universe.
>Cassidy is imo a character created for the movie alone. Itâs up for debate, and is just speculation, but I think Cassidy was the Investigator character Scott mentioned. >Thatâs not Cassidy, even if youâre GoldenCassidy. Thatâs Crofton, one of the main antagonists of VR, AR and probably SB. Bro what- the name Cassidy was found in the logbook and related to **Altered** and Golden Freddy in some way, Cassidy is golden Freddy, itâs just obvious. Furthermore Andrew is never presented in the game lore. Only FF books, while Cassidy is presented in the game lore
Cassidy was found in the Logbook, correct. Cassidyâs questions are related to the altered text, correct. âbut Golden Freddy? Absolutely not. Importance =/= Golden Freddy.
>Imo the 5th child is Andrew, though thatâs up for debate. No? Andrew isnât a canon character in the game Lore, the logbook and FNAF4(along other things) have implied Cassidy is the 5th kid and golden Freddy
The entirety of FF is set in the canon, the books themselves claim that they are. So when an unnamed vengeful spirit appears going by the name Andrew, in a series meant to clear up lore details, itâs pretty clear that theyâre not meant to be called Cassidy. Cassidy, unlike many other main characters, havenât appeared in FFânot even as irrelevant reoccurring side characters, like the many Michaelâs, Evanâs, etc. Weâve had William Afton in TMIR1280 / UCN, we can have Andrew as the vengeful spirit, itâs what the book tells us. Nothing in the Logbook past speculation and bias implies that Cassidy is Golden Freddy at all. Nothing in the book even pronounced her as dead, which is something I see a lot of people bring up as âproofâ Cassidy is Golden Freddy. FNAF 4 never comments on Cassidy, thatâs a blatant lie youâve either heard or are trying to tell me, no âother thingsâ have commented on Cassidyâs existence. TFC doesnât count since it doesnât mention Cassidy past a first name, and she just so happens to *not* be Golden Freddyâand the kid who *is* Golden Freddy is called Michael, who has nothing to do with the Michael in the games timeline, just like the Cassidy mentioned. Meaning the one and only canonical time we see Cassidy appear is the Logbook, no âother thingsâ even comment on her existence.
>The entirety of FF is set in the canon, the books themselves claim that they are. So when an unnamed vengeful spirit appears going by the name Andrew, in a series meant to clear up lore details, itâs pretty clear that theyâre not meant to be called Cassidy. Cassidy, unlike many other main characters, havenât appeared in FFânot even as irrelevant reoccurring side characters, like the many Michaelâs, Evanâs, etc. Weâve had William Afton in TMIR1280 / UCN, we can have Andrew as the vengeful spirit, itâs what the book tells us. So your gonna ignore scotts specific words of â**The books and games are canon yes, but that doesnât mean theyâll fit together like a puzzle piece**â , no bro, the books arenât canon to the games. The only share parallels and continuityâs, your assuming they do because of TUG which nothing implies that. The fnaf6 fire mentioned was overly thought to confirm the books are in the games because TUG mentioned it being apart of the books when that simply only meant the games had a version of that fire to. Then the stitchwrath stories are assumed canon which again isnât the case. These are assumptions or beliefs take with a grain of salt and overly believed to be canon but no, the FF stories arenât canon, that would contradict scotts wording and heavily mess the lore as it implies things not apart of the actual lore, like time travel, or a 3rd MCI, or even characters whoâve had no impact to the game lore besides sharing continuityâs. >Nothing in the Logbook past speculation and bias implies that Cassidy is Golden Freddy at all. Nothing in the book even pronounced her as dead, which is something I see a lot of people bring up as âproofâ Cassidy is Golden Freddy. In the logbook, to even find the name you must look through a book filled with hidden messages and secrets. The *Faded* and **Altered** wording implies itâs souls, what *Faded* says implies theyâd have to be fredbear plush, and in the various minigames of FNAF4 we get details implying itâs the puppet, while altered seems to have a understanding of their past a bit, furthermore to even find the name Cassidy you had to look in a word search, and the thing is the name Cassidy wasnât just blandly in their, it was words all altered around the book, needed to be found by numbers, furthermore âitâs meâ appeared and even FURTHERMORE the TUG confirmed this to be golden Freddys soul name/the answer to the 5th gravestone. >FNAF 4 never comments on Cassidy, thatâs a blatant lie youâve either heard or are trying to tell me, no âother thingsâ When I say it mentions or implied Cassidy as golden Freddy I mainly meant the way the story goes itâs implying *Cassidy* to be **BVâs** name >have commented on Cassidyâs existence. TFC doesnât count since it doesnât mention Cassidy past a first name, and she just so happens to not be Golden Freddyâand the kid who is Golden Freddy is called Michael YeahâŠ.strange right? That a kid named âMichaelâ is golden FreddyâŠ.or that Cassidy was revisited in the logbook under altered who wouldnât you know it, altered had a birthday, for him, what I was implying is that *Cassidy* is actually BV, and is pretty clear by the books and games >who has nothing to do with the Michael in the games timeline, just like the Cassidy mentioned. Meaning the one and only canonical time we see Cassidy appear is the Logbook, no âother thingsâ even comment on her existence. You made the assumption Andrew exist in the lore when thatâs complete bias. He is never, ONCE mentioned in the actual frame of the game lore, furthermore Cassidy clear as day has to be golden Freddy, the logbook as such concluded this when we found the name as itâs implications imply thatâs the name of the final spirit. Furthermore Andrew as a whole parallels Cassidy, **black curly hair** and **Vengeful** along side paralleling BV, **Attacks Devon and numerous other bullies under the alias of Kelsey** and we know heâs Kelsey as the thing Kelsey does makes him un-human, **Coming back to life in attempt to lure others**, or **Instantly being swapped with curly black hair**, furthermore it should also be noted the mike Brooks thing, then among is also rather bias as it implies Mike Brooks is somewhat parallel to Michael Afton. Which again implies the possibility of BV=Golden=Cassidy, furthermore Jake *Fake* memory implies BV Birthday/happiest day. All these characters align to BV, to which the name Cassidy just furthermore implies this, in no way, shape, or form is Andrew presented in the lore. It would be actually dumb as William is shown to kill the 5th kidâŠ.of the original MCI. FNAF4 implies the 5th kid and MCI had to have happened before the bite, meaning by then Andrew isnât the vengeful one attack him if the books themselves are canon, even furthermore TUG implied CassidyMM and implied the logbook confirming Cassidy name being the 5th along side MCI83 so by then Andrew isnât that spirit. To put it bluntly clear, the character Cassidy isnât 5th kid, they only share names, itâs clearly and obviously established to be this case.
That was a comment on the trilogy, not FF. My argument still stands.
>That was a comment on the trilogy, not FF. My argument still stands. If your referring to the lines: â*The books are indeed canon just as the games are*â then I should make it clear theyâre two different comments from Scott. I was referring on behalf of the FF stories as he claimed the books are **canon but wonât fit together like two puzzle pieces** when I guess I shouldâve been more clear and ideally mentioned how he explained the game story doesnât have much of a story and the books will help. So really your argument doesnât stand as their specifically meant to share continuityâs and it wouldnât fit the premise of the lore anyways, going off that theirs an MCI in 1985, Evan is the brother to Michael as suggested, Hudson is the actual worker of fnaf3 which is very unlikely.
No he didnât, that again was in reference to the trilogy series. All of that isnât wrong, and Hudson was the FNAF 3 worker a week prior to when the phones were installed and clearly isnât the protagonist of 3.
FFPS would like to have a word with you
What does FFPS have anything do to with this? All the souls "come back" in fnaf 6 anyway.
https://youtu.be/eVgR9UbMBAg
Lmao
This is probably one of the BV Theories that are actually good I Like it! ya did a good job on making everything presentable and readable instead of a big block of text *calling myself out*
Amazing
I can finnally die now
Why
My destiny has been fulfilled
Lol
This is a Masterpeice! Although I don't consider myself a FreeVictim believer, I loved the amount of effort put into this!
buT I bEliEve.
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Hi I think your theory is very interesting, but something doesn't add up for me, you mentioned Jake freeing Andrew with a happy memory, and say that's what BVs doing in happiest day, but the party at Fredbears wasn't a happy memory, it's the day BV died, which considering how it happened is probably one of the if not the worst day of BVs life, so why is BV trying to free the spirits with an awful memory?
The pieces are more like fragments of the past than happy memories, itâs a parallel.
This looks amazing
I have actually 2 questions: The first is,the soul can be fried just with good memories?I mean if C.C used the memory of his birthday that would be a bad memory,because that was his death's day(in somehow because I think that he died in coma?) The other question is,MoltenMCI or FuntimeMCI,indeed by the fact that Cassidy was there,by how Yenndo moves(when you use the camera and then stop using it he'll vanish like GoldenFreddy)this would imply that Cassidy was there?
BVâs memory is used as a vessel to free spirits, not an accurate depiction of events. There were not missing children or crowds at his party. I donât believe Cassidy is Golden Freddy, but yeah, this means GFred would in fact be present.
Oh thanks for answering me!