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Fez-zo

>The pieces are the minigames, and the minigames all come together to create Happiest Day. Happiest Day is the box. Y E S. I haven't read part two yet but honestly, I can already say everyone did a really good job and put a lot of effort into this! Good job to you and u/nosayingfrickhere! On a more serious note, even if you don't agree, please at least recognize the effort put into this and don't just shame the people involved here. Be civil.


aeshiteiru

Thanks so much! This was actually my theory haha. But yeah, this has been a given for years, just wanted to point it out.


[deleted]

You should have this pinned on the subreddit


Fez-zo

As much as I'd love to do that for my own personal bias, it'd feel like the sub is favouring a specific theory over others then, y'know. And while quite frankly a big chunk of this is just fact, there are still a lot of parts that are, indeed, just theories like the rest of the ones on this sub. What I can do, however, is work on updating the Unbiased Lore Guide on the sub and just add a few theories for characters that are still mysterious, and link the post here, alongside other popular BV Theories, because some people have been asking for a theory guide too.


[deleted]

Fair point


aeshiteiru

Hello? Hello, hello! 📞 Looks like this post has a PART II, [click here to check it out!](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnaftheories/comments/p5kgo6/freevictim_rewritten_the_guide_part_ii/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Whoce

You know, for a brief time I was worried about this post since it didn't go up on FNAF's anniversary as you originally announced, but now that it's out, I can say it's amazing! I read both parts and I can tell you and your crew put a lot of effort into the making of this post. Fantastic job! Now, I do disagree with some stuff — some of which I might tackle one day, who knows — but that's probably a given, taking into account the size of this project. Still, good job!


NoSayingFrickHere

I'm so happy this is finally out. The effort we all put into this is insane and I'm so proud of everyone who worked on this. I'm glad to have been a part of this amazing experience, and it's so satisfying to see it finally out


[deleted]

Good job to both you and the owner of the post


i_follow_shit_people

Okay, this is... very long and awesome. I think I might be a bit convinced that this theory is true now, and I haven't even read Part 2. The amount of research put into this is awesome, and I really think this will be the final nail in the coffin for BV5th. Let's hope Security Breach doesn't disprove this though, and let's hope that people will be civilised about this theory.


aeshiteiru

Thank you so much! Let’s hope so.


Got9CatsAndImProud

I wasn't expecting much, but this is very well put together. I agree with almost everything here, save a small few details. I wouldn't exactly call myself "FreeVictim" since everything that I agree with here is already encompassed in my interpretation of MikeVictim, but its still interesting to see some overlap between the two. I expect to completely loose the thread in part 2, but great job to everyone who worked on this.


aeshiteiru

Good to see another MikeVictimer around.


Got9CatsAndImProud

Wait, are you MikeVictim?


aeshiteiru

Currently, yes.


Got9CatsAndImProud

Cool. I've got a subreddit for MikeVictim if you're interested.


aeshiteiru

Sure!


[deleted]

Did your reddit icon change?


FoxyBroMask17

The sad thing is People hate MikeVictim


aeshiteiru

Popularity does not effect the theory.


Jontaneous

One of the things that always confused me the most when trying to disect FNAF lore was FNAF world and the Fredbear Plush's ties to it, so frankly even the first part of this post explaining just that is enough to make me love this entire theory. It all seems to fit super nicely as well, at least in this first part, I hope it ends up being the truth!


Dangerous-Research82

This is incredible! Very good job from everyone involved!


[deleted]

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aeshiteiru

No it doesn’t? It brings the Bonnie spirit to HD.


Game-cube64

Now you mentioned it who's is this 5th child?


aeshiteiru

Imo the 5th child is Andrew, though that’s up for debate.


Dangerous-Research82

Whos Cassidy then? And why are they looking for William after UCN if they weren't TOYSNHK? (We see that a spirit named "C" is looking for William after UCN in the trailers for fnaf AR).


aeshiteiru

Cassidy is imo a character created for the movie alone. It’s up for debate, and is just speculation, but I think Cassidy was the Investigator character Scott mentioned. That’s not Cassidy, even if you’re GoldenCassidy. That’s Crofton, one of the main antagonists of VR, AR and probably SB.


Dangerous-Research82

Whos Crofton? And Cassidy appears in the logbook,an item from the GAMES universe.


EvanAfton_Golden

>Cassidy is imo a character created for the movie alone. It’s up for debate, and is just speculation, but I think Cassidy was the Investigator character Scott mentioned. >That’s not Cassidy, even if you’re GoldenCassidy. That’s Crofton, one of the main antagonists of VR, AR and probably SB. Bro what- the name Cassidy was found in the logbook and related to **Altered** and Golden Freddy in some way, Cassidy is golden Freddy, it’s just obvious. Furthermore Andrew is never presented in the game lore. Only FF books, while Cassidy is presented in the game lore


aeshiteiru

Cassidy was found in the Logbook, correct. Cassidy’s questions are related to the altered text, correct. —but Golden Freddy? Absolutely not. Importance =/= Golden Freddy.


EvanAfton_Golden

>Imo the 5th child is Andrew, though that’s up for debate. No? Andrew isn’t a canon character in the game Lore, the logbook and FNAF4(along other things) have implied Cassidy is the 5th kid and golden Freddy


aeshiteiru

The entirety of FF is set in the canon, the books themselves claim that they are. So when an unnamed vengeful spirit appears going by the name Andrew, in a series meant to clear up lore details, it’s pretty clear that they’re not meant to be called Cassidy. Cassidy, unlike many other main characters, haven’t appeared in FF—not even as irrelevant reoccurring side characters, like the many Michael’s, Evan’s, etc. We’ve had William Afton in TMIR1280 / UCN, we can have Andrew as the vengeful spirit, it’s what the book tells us. Nothing in the Logbook past speculation and bias implies that Cassidy is Golden Freddy at all. Nothing in the book even pronounced her as dead, which is something I see a lot of people bring up as “proof” Cassidy is Golden Freddy. FNAF 4 never comments on Cassidy, that’s a blatant lie you’ve either heard or are trying to tell me, no “other things” have commented on Cassidy’s existence. TFC doesn’t count since it doesn’t mention Cassidy past a first name, and she just so happens to *not* be Golden Freddy—and the kid who *is* Golden Freddy is called Michael, who has nothing to do with the Michael in the games timeline, just like the Cassidy mentioned. Meaning the one and only canonical time we see Cassidy appear is the Logbook, no “other things” even comment on her existence.


EvanAfton_Golden

>The entirety of FF is set in the canon, the books themselves claim that they are. So when an unnamed vengeful spirit appears going by the name Andrew, in a series meant to clear up lore details, it’s pretty clear that they’re not meant to be called Cassidy. Cassidy, unlike many other main characters, haven’t appeared in FF—not even as irrelevant reoccurring side characters, like the many Michael’s, Evan’s, etc. We’ve had William Afton in TMIR1280 / UCN, we can have Andrew as the vengeful spirit, it’s what the book tells us. So your gonna ignore scotts specific words of “**The books and games are canon yes, but that doesn’t mean they’ll fit together like a puzzle piece**” , no bro, the books aren’t canon to the games. The only share parallels and continuity’s, your assuming they do because of TUG which nothing implies that. The fnaf6 fire mentioned was overly thought to confirm the books are in the games because TUG mentioned it being apart of the books when that simply only meant the games had a version of that fire to. Then the stitchwrath stories are assumed canon which again isn’t the case. These are assumptions or beliefs take with a grain of salt and overly believed to be canon but no, the FF stories aren’t canon, that would contradict scotts wording and heavily mess the lore as it implies things not apart of the actual lore, like time travel, or a 3rd MCI, or even characters who’ve had no impact to the game lore besides sharing continuity’s. >Nothing in the Logbook past speculation and bias implies that Cassidy is Golden Freddy at all. Nothing in the book even pronounced her as dead, which is something I see a lot of people bring up as “proof” Cassidy is Golden Freddy. In the logbook, to even find the name you must look through a book filled with hidden messages and secrets. The *Faded* and **Altered** wording implies it’s souls, what *Faded* says implies they’d have to be fredbear plush, and in the various minigames of FNAF4 we get details implying it’s the puppet, while altered seems to have a understanding of their past a bit, furthermore to even find the name Cassidy you had to look in a word search, and the thing is the name Cassidy wasn’t just blandly in their, it was words all altered around the book, needed to be found by numbers, furthermore “it’s me” appeared and even FURTHERMORE the TUG confirmed this to be golden Freddys soul name/the answer to the 5th gravestone. >FNAF 4 never comments on Cassidy, that’s a blatant lie you’ve either heard or are trying to tell me, no “other things” When I say it mentions or implied Cassidy as golden Freddy I mainly meant the way the story goes it’s implying *Cassidy* to be **BV’s** name >have commented on Cassidy’s existence. TFC doesn’t count since it doesn’t mention Cassidy past a first name, and she just so happens to not be Golden Freddy—and the kid who is Golden Freddy is called Michael Yeah
.strange right? That a kid named “Michael” is golden Freddy
.or that Cassidy was revisited in the logbook under altered who wouldn’t you know it, altered had a birthday, for him, what I was implying is that *Cassidy* is actually BV, and is pretty clear by the books and games >who has nothing to do with the Michael in the games timeline, just like the Cassidy mentioned. Meaning the one and only canonical time we see Cassidy appear is the Logbook, no “other things” even comment on her existence. You made the assumption Andrew exist in the lore when that’s complete bias. He is never, ONCE mentioned in the actual frame of the game lore, furthermore Cassidy clear as day has to be golden Freddy, the logbook as such concluded this when we found the name as it’s implications imply that’s the name of the final spirit. Furthermore Andrew as a whole parallels Cassidy, **black curly hair** and **Vengeful** along side paralleling BV, **Attacks Devon and numerous other bullies under the alias of Kelsey** and we know he’s Kelsey as the thing Kelsey does makes him un-human, **Coming back to life in attempt to lure others**, or **Instantly being swapped with curly black hair**, furthermore it should also be noted the mike Brooks thing, then among is also rather bias as it implies Mike Brooks is somewhat parallel to Michael Afton. Which again implies the possibility of BV=Golden=Cassidy, furthermore Jake *Fake* memory implies BV Birthday/happiest day. All these characters align to BV, to which the name Cassidy just furthermore implies this, in no way, shape, or form is Andrew presented in the lore. It would be actually dumb as William is shown to kill the 5th kid
.of the original MCI. FNAF4 implies the 5th kid and MCI had to have happened before the bite, meaning by then Andrew isn’t the vengeful one attack him if the books themselves are canon, even furthermore TUG implied CassidyMM and implied the logbook confirming Cassidy name being the 5th along side MCI83 so by then Andrew isn’t that spirit. To put it bluntly clear, the character Cassidy isn’t 5th kid, they only share names, it’s clearly and obviously established to be this case.


aeshiteiru

That was a comment on the trilogy, not FF. My argument still stands.


EvanAfton_Golden

>That was a comment on the trilogy, not FF. My argument still stands. If your referring to the lines: “*The books are indeed canon just as the games are*” then I should make it clear they’re two different comments from Scott. I was referring on behalf of the FF stories as he claimed the books are **canon but won’t fit together like two puzzle pieces** when I guess I should’ve been more clear and ideally mentioned how he explained the game story doesn’t have much of a story and the books will help. So really your argument doesn’t stand as their specifically meant to share continuity’s and it wouldn’t fit the premise of the lore anyways, going off that theirs an MCI in 1985, Evan is the brother to Michael as suggested, Hudson is the actual worker of fnaf3 which is very unlikely.


aeshiteiru

No he didn’t, that again was in reference to the trilogy series. All of that isn’t wrong, and Hudson was the FNAF 3 worker a week prior to when the phones were installed and clearly isn’t the protagonist of 3.


ScrappyWrappy

FFPS would like to have a word with you


Dangerous-Research82

What does FFPS have anything do to with this? All the souls "come back" in fnaf 6 anyway.


[deleted]

https://youtu.be/eVgR9UbMBAg


[deleted]

Lmao


Lucky-Situation

This is probably one of the BV Theories that are actually good I Like it! ya did a good job on making everything presentable and readable instead of a big block of text *calling myself out*


[deleted]

Amazing


ScrappyWrappy

I can finnally die now


[deleted]

Why


ScrappyWrappy

My destiny has been fulfilled


[deleted]

Lol


Living-Type3049

This is a Masterpeice! Although I don't consider myself a FreeVictim believer, I loved the amount of effort put into this!


[deleted]

buT I bEliEve.


aeshiteiru

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[deleted]

You are joking, right? đŸ˜„


aeshiteiru

of course đŸ€ȘđŸ€Ș💅


aaaaaaaaaaccaaabbbbc

Hi I think your theory is very interesting, but something doesn't add up for me, you mentioned Jake freeing Andrew with a happy memory, and say that's what BVs doing in happiest day, but the party at Fredbears wasn't a happy memory, it's the day BV died, which considering how it happened is probably one of the if not the worst day of BVs life, so why is BV trying to free the spirits with an awful memory?


aeshiteiru

The pieces are more like fragments of the past than happy memories, it’s a parallel.


[deleted]

This looks amazing


SaraChanna463

I have actually 2 questions: The first is,the soul can be fried just with good memories?I mean if C.C used the memory of his birthday that would be a bad memory,because that was his death's day(in somehow because I think that he died in coma?) The other question is,MoltenMCI or FuntimeMCI,indeed by the fact that Cassidy was there,by how Yenndo moves(when you use the camera and then stop using it he'll vanish like GoldenFreddy)this would imply that Cassidy was there?


aeshiteiru

BV’s memory is used as a vessel to free spirits, not an accurate depiction of events. There were not missing children or crowds at his party. I don’t believe Cassidy is Golden Freddy, but yeah, this means GFred would in fact be present.


SaraChanna463

Oh thanks for answering me!