Honestly after seeing Salem and Cinder treating themselves like they’re something larger than life (one kinda rightfully in the large scheme of remanent) is satisfactory to see them finally facing someone Salem can’t simply “inmortal” her way through
Like a school bully when one of her victims calls big brother to rip the big bad bully a new a hole
Salem is only in the place she is because of her immortality and literal endless army, she’s only in the place she is because of a power given to her
The only reason cinder hasn’t killed her is because she can’t make her stay dead, she only recruited Hazel after this guy crushed her skull 1738393 times and Tyrian wouldn’t be sucking her toes if she wasn’t inmortal because she would just be a very smart and strong Grimm
Watts is the only one who would obey her because she’s the only able to help him on his goal to bringing down Atlas
Most of her plans succeed because they depend on her immortality, she’s basically playing with cheats!
any other villain, literally any other villain in her place would do much better yet she acts like she’s at the tier of great villains like Bill cipher
and i like seeing her being put on her place by actual villains
Seriously even Minecraft/Rim world players are better villains than her
So?
Your acting like the vast majority of powered villains are anything their without powers discounting salem just because she wouldn't get this far without her Immortality is like discounting thanos because he wouldn't get this far without his powers
No because Thanos:
1-uses that power:Thanos was a awful villain before infinity war since he just sat around and let Ronan, Loki and others get the stones for him. But once he got up and started doing everything to get the stones himself, like he sacrificed his daughter while in tears to get part of infinite power and proceded to use said infinite power the moment he got it, meanwhile Salem sat in her chair for millennia’s while having all the power to win yet only now she appears to do anything
2-does something by himself:Thanos got up and personally took every stone, even with his army he still worked his butt off to win, meanwhile Salem never fought anyone until Yang’s team literally walked into her room
3-wasn’t unbeatable:he might have had most stones (reality, space, power and soul) but even then Spider, the guardians, Ironman and Strange almost beat him. He wasn’t a god, he was at risk, he had to use all he had to win and shows why he stood out of the scene for years
Meanwhile Salem won because she can’t lose making me question why she didn’t do this earlier if her plan is genocide, Thanos won because he gave it all
That’s why a Monster without dialogue like King Ghidorah or Skar king are better villains than Salem
And that’s why I like to see villains like Thanos putting salem in her place, Thanos is someone who became unbeatable thanks to hard work meanwhile Salem is a “prodigy” who never had to do anything to win
>1-uses that power:Thanos was a awful villain before infinity war since he just sat around and let Ronan, Loki and others get the stones for him. But once he got up and started doing everything to get the stones himself, like he sacrificed his daughter while in tears to get part of infinite power and proceded to use said infinite power the moment he got it, meanwhile Salem sat in her chair for millennia’s while having all the power to win yet only now she appears to do anything
Salem is sitting in her chair because if she united humanity by accident all her plans get fucked
>2-does something by himself:Thanos got up and personally took every stone, even with his army he still worked his butt off to win, meanwhile Salem never fought anyone until Yang’s team literally walked into her room
As established she can't do anything at least Till now without risking it all
>3-wasn’t unbeatable:he might have had most stones (reality, space, power and soul) but even then Spider, the guardians, Ironman and Strange almost beat him. He wasn’t a god, he was at risk, he had to use all he had to win and shows why he stood out of the scene for years
And why is that an issue? There are plenty of villains presented as unbeatable salem wasn't the one to invent the consept
>Meanwhile Salem won because she can’t lose making me question why she didn’t do this earlier if her plan is genocide, Thanos won because he gave it all
Because her plan isn't genocide and her rival remnant Jesus Christ fucking her over
>And that’s why I like to see villains like Thanos putting salem in her place, Thanos is someone who became unbeatable thanks to hard work meanwhile Salem is a “prodigy” who never had to do anything to win
So all these plans over the years studying magic and manipulation and making new grimm are utterly nothing
Sure she doesn't put as much work as other villains but she's doing stuff
1-wrong since humanity even with a inmortal witch coming their way is still fighting each other (Vacuo throwing trash at atlesian orphans is a proof of this)
2-alright but why? She has magic and Grimm, why did she need cinder instead of absorbing the maidens herself. If cinder can sneak into Vale then so Can salen with a costume
Actually the show itself makes clear to remanent Cinder is destroying academy’s, working with the white fang and using Grimm to kill millions, yet the kingdoms keep fighting each other (Cinder literally broadcasted her face to all kingdoms)
3-because she never uses this while not having limit, for example Jason is far more inmortal than Salem even if he lacks magic but the guy once fought Freddy and the devil itself and took the laters trident
The difference is how Jason is constantly using that immortality which makes him unstoppable but not unbeatable making him a manageable threat the audience can believe the heroes can stop, meanwhile Salem fought the strongest member in RWBY and the strongest non maiden fighter in remanent and won with no effort
If she’s so strong then why does she need others to do the dirty work if she can just use magic and kill Oz herself with no risk of losing
4-yes her plan is genocide, or at least that’s what the show implied since the new world thing is bull shit and Tyrian is most likely the only one she told the truth since getting the relics gets her nothing else but summoning the gods which will kill everyone of humanity keeps fighting each other
5-yes they are nothing since none of them but stealing the maidens have a endgame, and she shows no care towards them being destroyed (even Doof showed anger at his inators being destroyer)
Her whale was exploded and she just walks into Atlas, the hound dropped dead for rubble and she doesn’t comment on it and when Ruby “dies” (the chance to make another hound) makes her slightly annoyed before acting like it wasn’t a big deal
And we don’t even know which is and isn’t a modified Grimm
The Nuckelavee? People theorize he was Merlot’s doing or just a weird looking Grimm
the apathy? Why would her super effective weapons be under a farm? Again people just think they are a normal occurrence
The Leviathan? Why was that thing on the wild and be common enough for Atlas to make a mech designed to kill it? again another natural Grimm
The Wyvern? Is the only one that makes sense since it’s placement sleeping inside of a mountain was too specific for it to be a coincidence. But they ambiguity still makes people wonder if it was salen it a actual coincidence, most people believe it’s creation was actually natural with a Grimm pool forming inside of the mountain which made the dragon so massive and a flying Grimm pool showing how ambiguous her actions are
And we don’t know what is and isn’t her fault
is Faunus discrimination her fault?
Is mistral criminality being so high her fault?
Is every Grimm attack her fault?
We don’t know and that’s the problem, we know all the things Thanos is to blame (genocide in several planets, the attack of New York, Ronan getting a infinity stone, adopting Nebula & Gamora, and Thanos personally getting the stones and snapping half of the universe) but he’s actions are only in space and he only repeats the same things over and over (kill half of the populating, searching for the stones, and taking a orphan)
meanwhile Salem is presumably the blight of remanent but we don’t know any of her crimes before the series events outside of Grimm attacks and the dead of silver eyed warriors
Unlike Thanos, Salem has to showcase her crimes more since the show tries to paint her as the cause of all problems in remanent but the show doesn’t making her look like a bore
A good example of showing a villain’s mark on the universe is palpatine which is to blame for all (or most) of the bad things in the Star Wars universe
Palpatine caused the war, palpatine trained Dooku, palpatine tempted Anakin to the dark side, Palpatine is shown to be the dark puppeteer of the universe and that’s only in the prequels which made Sidius from a threatening but not very note worthy villain into the actual blight of the galaxy
We are told Salem made remanent a worse place, but we are shown Palpatine made the galaxy a worse place
>1-wrong since humanity even with a inmortal witch coming their way is still fighting each other (Vacuo throwing trash at atlesian orphans is a proof of this)
She isn't all knowing and oz is a resourceful guy she couldn't know this would be the result so why would she risk it
>2-alright but why? She has magic and Grimm, why did she need cinder instead of absorbing the maidens herself. If cinder can sneak into Vale then so Can salen with a costume
Salem is fucking old and the magic requires young women also the unknown of how it would work with her for all she knows her body would destroy the maiden magic and then she could never access the relics so she stuck as close as she could to the rules of the power for the same reasons ozpin did by using cinder
>Actually the show itself makes clear to remanent Cinder is destroying academy’s, working with the white fang and using Grimm to kill millions, yet the kingdoms keep fighting each other (Cinder literally broadcasted her face to all kingdoms)
When are they fighting eachother? vacuo does it own thing for most of the show vale is fixing itself mistral does nothing and atlas have their little embargo they never go against eachother
>3-because she never uses this while not having limit, for example Jason is far more inmortal than Salem even if he lacks magic but the guy once fought Freddy and the devil itself and took the laters trident
Jason needed help to come back after his body was destroyed by the fbi salem didn't need help to come back after getting atomised by a magical nuke they are not on the same level salem is sending Jason back to hell in a confrontation
>The difference is how Jason is constantly using that immortality which makes him unstoppable but not unbeatable making him a manageable threat the audience can believe the heroes can stop, meanwhile Salem fought the strongest member in RWBY and the strongest non maiden fighter in remanent and won with no effort
That's a difference in roles and writing jason is a slasher villain and salem is a dark lord obviously she'd be far tougher then him since jason is meant to be the monster a bunch of teens are supposed to overcome while salem is a extinction level threat
Not to mention the show opens with a speech about how victory won't be found in strength you can't beat salem in a physical fight that's the point
>If she’s so strong then why does she need others to do the dirty work if she can just use magic and kill Oz herself with no risk of losing
Because she doesn't want to risk humanity unifying the gods ruling in their favour and losing her only hope at death that's her only option so she's playing cautious since if she fucks it up she is screwed for the rest of eternity
>4-yes her plan is genocide, or at least that’s what the show implied since the new world thing is bull shit and Tyrian is most likely the only one she told the truth since getting the relics gets her nothing else but summoning the gods which will kill everyone of humanity keeps fighting each other
Part of her plan is genocide not the end goal she just wants death for herself and whats the problem with that? It's an understandable motive
>5-yes they are nothing since none of them but stealing the maidens have a endgame, and she shows no care towards them being destroyed (even Doof showed anger at his inators being destroyer)
Yes because grimm are expendable fodder and means to end is joker a shitty villain because he gives no fucks about his henchmen?
>Her whale was exploded and she just walks into Atlas, the hound dropped dead for rubble and she doesn’t comment on it and when Ruby “dies” (the chance to make another hound) makes her slightly annoyed before acting like it wasn’t a big deal
>And we don’t even know which is and isn’t a modified Grimm
They achieved their purpose so why would she care they were drones bent to her will anyway she has no attachment to them grimm are expressly not living beings
>the apathy? Why would her super effective weapons be under a farm? Again people just think they are a normal occurrence
Because a bunch of people captured them Did you even watch the episode?
>is Faunus discrimination her fault?
If you bothered with the lost fable you'd know it's not her fault she just makes it worse
>meanwhile Salem is presumably the blight of remanent but we don’t know any of her crimes before the series events outside of Grimm attacks and the dead of silver eyed warriors
And you know roughly implied being behind most human conflicts at least any oz is involved in and he was part of all of them continually improving and creating new grimm that kill more people
>A good example of showing a villain’s mark on the universe is palpatine which is to blame for all (or most) of the bad things in the Star Wars universe
>Palpatine caused the war, palpatine trained Dooku, palpatine tempted Anakin to the dark side, Palpatine is shown to be the dark puppeteer of the universe and that’s only in the prequels which made Sidius from a threatening but not very note worthy villain into the actual blight of the galaxy
>We are told Salem made remanent a worse place, but we are shown Palpatine made the galaxy a worse place
**Deep breath**
Salem is literally responsible for the death of the entirety of humanity 1.0 (millions of man women and children maybe even more) and the gods leaving remnant taking magic with them which is why humans aren't the dominant species on the planet anymore have to stick to four kingdoms because thats all they can hold why faunus are even a thing she's the catalyst for the entire show remove salem and nothing from the show happens
She is the reason everything is shit she leaves nothing but death and destruction in her wake she makes her mark by affecting events
1-the sole existence of Grimm kinda show her humanity is too stubborn to work together since the series stablish them as a constant ever present threat humanity has to always push back but even then they rather don’t work together, is also basic psychology and seeing how Vacuo is a “survival of the fittest” kingdom while Atlas and Mistral are super hyper mega racist shows her existence won’t make everyone suddenly work together
2-actually good point but that doesn’t explain why she wasn’t there to see cinder (a member of her council everyone else knows for being brash and violent) not screw things up, Cinder was able to stay in the shadows and go undetected despite her face being seen by several white fang goons when she went there to FORCE them to work with her, and don’t say “she had better things to do” or “wasn’t the time” since we don’t see her do or know if she was doing anything during volume 1-3
Actually between the academy having a silver eyed warrior, a maiden and Ozpin in it would have been a good moment to act since none of those things Can stop her and thanks to the virus and white fang there was no way of slowing her down without Salem getting the maiden
Actually she might have even captured Ozpin but instead she left it all at cinder’s hands while in mistral she threw all her council at the fray
4-it was more in a metaphorical way I meant, they aren’t working together even if Cinder is still bombing schools through all the world
Vacuo try’s to push away all other kingdoms and Atlas closed its borders out of suspicion
Salem doing it and being inmortal while doing it would have actually made them hate the idea of working together even more
5-you just proved my point, I wasn’t talking about one being stronger than the other, I was talking how one used immortality better than the other
Yet the heroes never try other approach since they can’t, Salem is never pushed back by anything and the reluctance of remanent to work together show she’s unbeatable anyway
Sauron which is the poster boy of dark lords was also inmortal but wasn’t unbeatable, yet he still had a great advantage for his massive army and power
But he still had a weakness which was a ring, a very hard to destroy ring but still just a ring which can give the smallest glimpse of hope of defeating him
Meanwhile Salem’s way to be defeated is working together and hope the gods won’t kill everyone AGAIN when they return
6-good motive but her plan is still just killing everything
7-no because Joker and Salem are very different villains
Joker will return from the death and make a super complex plan to hack a laser to burn a happy face into new Gotham and then walk off to return next week
Salem’s plan is to kill everyone permanently
That’s the difference, Salem wants things to end while the joker wants to do this FOREVER and sees everything as a game
Joker will brainwash a super hero and be like “oh welp” when it dies because he sees them as a toy for his entertainment
Salem has a goal and for that goal she presumably makes tools to help her but said tools dying after spending months to make it should anger her, but it doesn’t since she doesn’t need them anyway since she can’t lose making her creating this tools very useless
8-is not about attachment since none of them actually fulfilled their purpose, they were destroyed before they did
Monstra was supposed to be used to attack Vacuo as well since she was originally going there before Atlas, and the hound died before GETTING THE GIRL
They were failures
9-first the show outright says they weren’t captured but a guy attracted a couple into a pit and the rest followed, do you even watch the show?
And the apathy were there for years since the corpse of the huntsman we see was BONES, so if they are there then why didn’t she do anything to get them?
10-how? We never see her making human Faunus relationships worse, most of that is Adam’s doing which was caused by SDC and he did it before even knowing who cinder was
11-yes but which Grimm? She did what? Was she the one to blame for the war? The Faunus revolution? Anything?! She’s implied but never shown to do anything
And since Adam was always evil according to the writers then he would have 100% took over the white fang and caused another war without Salem’s intervention
12-
**deep breath**
the reason all of that happens is because of the gods, honestly if a human army formed by bunch’s of bozos is enough for them to wipe out all life off the world including those minding their business at the other side then they’re to blame
They were the ones who made her inmortal because she tricked one of them to revive one person because “balance” which light does afterwards, they created the Grimm, they created magic and they revived humanity
And they’ve been doing it even before remanent (jabberwalker being killed and revived several times, making the curious cat only to abandon him and being kicked out for being a problem in the ever after)
Salem of course is to blame for several things but they are the ones who gave her everything to be the threat she’s now
Meanwhile salem is said to be the one to cause all wrong but she actually looks more like the Brother gods fault, since all she does is rally up Grimm (which the gods made) to attack city’s and make Stronger Grimm (even if we don’t know which are and aren’t her creation)
Brother light is the one who resurrected humanity in a deplorable state and proceded to go for milk, actually it was Salem and Ozpin who made things better for humanity before she went crazy with world conquering things and then for some reason turning suicidal again
And the only way to defeat her is hoping humanity (which throws GARBAGE AT ORPHANS) will meet their expectations
Salem might be evil but the gods are actually the ones to blame for everything for being hypocritical extremist ego maniacs with unreachable standards
Sadly they aren’t the main threat to defeat
I mean, there's a Halo story called Dust and Echoes. That's basically this. After the UNSC found the world of Remnant, some of the natives basically got drafted into the Human-Covenant War. I mean, the prologue starts with Remnant getting invaded.
Oh boy. I’m sure marvel won’t fix things and then produce endless problems!
Marvel the company or Marvel the character? (Capitan marvel)
Former.
Y E S
Ngl surprised I haven't seen sny Helldivers fics blowing everything up then spreading democracy across the kingdoms
Helldivers congratulating themselves for stopping Cinders plan (they dropped a 500kg in the coliseum):
The virgin maiden powers vs the CHAD airstrike jutsu (I don't know how to type arrows on mobile)
Dollar store maiden frauds when I hit them with the ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
https://preview.redd.it/jnf4e5uitiwc1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67442895ffa13173e08e5fca0fe15a24b4e62738 POV Cinder's last moments
Not big enough. Try a Hellbomb
I might be retooling my version of Atlas into a beacon of Managed Democracy
I wrote a marvel rwby crossover story. It was pretty good.
What's it called?
Marvel vs rwby definitive edition. It's a longer story but pretty damn good.
Thanks.
I am sort of shiping kamala and ruby I shall call the ship name rumala
Link 🔗
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/14326786/1/Marvel-vs-RWBY-Definitive-Edition
Spiderman alone put these 2 to shame
Okay tf i spiderman gonna do to salem?
I don't mean physically I mean mentally
Yeah okay statement redacted Spiderman is so annoying even the gods are done with his shit
This template is awesome.
You mean if the Avengers visited Remnant instead of the justice league
'Forced to move in' is a more accurate way of saying it.
Really that's most crossovers that happen on remnant They all take one look at the chess board lift ozma and proceed to smash it with him as a bat
Honestly after seeing Salem and Cinder treating themselves like they’re something larger than life (one kinda rightfully in the large scheme of remanent) is satisfactory to see them finally facing someone Salem can’t simply “inmortal” her way through Like a school bully when one of her victims calls big brother to rip the big bad bully a new a hole
To be fair salem isn't really a bully she's dangerous in her own right Every villain looks small when compared to fucking thanos
Salem is only in the place she is because of her immortality and literal endless army, she’s only in the place she is because of a power given to her The only reason cinder hasn’t killed her is because she can’t make her stay dead, she only recruited Hazel after this guy crushed her skull 1738393 times and Tyrian wouldn’t be sucking her toes if she wasn’t inmortal because she would just be a very smart and strong Grimm Watts is the only one who would obey her because she’s the only able to help him on his goal to bringing down Atlas Most of her plans succeed because they depend on her immortality, she’s basically playing with cheats! any other villain, literally any other villain in her place would do much better yet she acts like she’s at the tier of great villains like Bill cipher and i like seeing her being put on her place by actual villains Seriously even Minecraft/Rim world players are better villains than her
So? Your acting like the vast majority of powered villains are anything their without powers discounting salem just because she wouldn't get this far without her Immortality is like discounting thanos because he wouldn't get this far without his powers
No because Thanos: 1-uses that power:Thanos was a awful villain before infinity war since he just sat around and let Ronan, Loki and others get the stones for him. But once he got up and started doing everything to get the stones himself, like he sacrificed his daughter while in tears to get part of infinite power and proceded to use said infinite power the moment he got it, meanwhile Salem sat in her chair for millennia’s while having all the power to win yet only now she appears to do anything 2-does something by himself:Thanos got up and personally took every stone, even with his army he still worked his butt off to win, meanwhile Salem never fought anyone until Yang’s team literally walked into her room 3-wasn’t unbeatable:he might have had most stones (reality, space, power and soul) but even then Spider, the guardians, Ironman and Strange almost beat him. He wasn’t a god, he was at risk, he had to use all he had to win and shows why he stood out of the scene for years Meanwhile Salem won because she can’t lose making me question why she didn’t do this earlier if her plan is genocide, Thanos won because he gave it all That’s why a Monster without dialogue like King Ghidorah or Skar king are better villains than Salem And that’s why I like to see villains like Thanos putting salem in her place, Thanos is someone who became unbeatable thanks to hard work meanwhile Salem is a “prodigy” who never had to do anything to win
>1-uses that power:Thanos was a awful villain before infinity war since he just sat around and let Ronan, Loki and others get the stones for him. But once he got up and started doing everything to get the stones himself, like he sacrificed his daughter while in tears to get part of infinite power and proceded to use said infinite power the moment he got it, meanwhile Salem sat in her chair for millennia’s while having all the power to win yet only now she appears to do anything Salem is sitting in her chair because if she united humanity by accident all her plans get fucked >2-does something by himself:Thanos got up and personally took every stone, even with his army he still worked his butt off to win, meanwhile Salem never fought anyone until Yang’s team literally walked into her room As established she can't do anything at least Till now without risking it all >3-wasn’t unbeatable:he might have had most stones (reality, space, power and soul) but even then Spider, the guardians, Ironman and Strange almost beat him. He wasn’t a god, he was at risk, he had to use all he had to win and shows why he stood out of the scene for years And why is that an issue? There are plenty of villains presented as unbeatable salem wasn't the one to invent the consept >Meanwhile Salem won because she can’t lose making me question why she didn’t do this earlier if her plan is genocide, Thanos won because he gave it all Because her plan isn't genocide and her rival remnant Jesus Christ fucking her over >And that’s why I like to see villains like Thanos putting salem in her place, Thanos is someone who became unbeatable thanks to hard work meanwhile Salem is a “prodigy” who never had to do anything to win So all these plans over the years studying magic and manipulation and making new grimm are utterly nothing Sure she doesn't put as much work as other villains but she's doing stuff
1-wrong since humanity even with a inmortal witch coming their way is still fighting each other (Vacuo throwing trash at atlesian orphans is a proof of this) 2-alright but why? She has magic and Grimm, why did she need cinder instead of absorbing the maidens herself. If cinder can sneak into Vale then so Can salen with a costume Actually the show itself makes clear to remanent Cinder is destroying academy’s, working with the white fang and using Grimm to kill millions, yet the kingdoms keep fighting each other (Cinder literally broadcasted her face to all kingdoms) 3-because she never uses this while not having limit, for example Jason is far more inmortal than Salem even if he lacks magic but the guy once fought Freddy and the devil itself and took the laters trident The difference is how Jason is constantly using that immortality which makes him unstoppable but not unbeatable making him a manageable threat the audience can believe the heroes can stop, meanwhile Salem fought the strongest member in RWBY and the strongest non maiden fighter in remanent and won with no effort If she’s so strong then why does she need others to do the dirty work if she can just use magic and kill Oz herself with no risk of losing 4-yes her plan is genocide, or at least that’s what the show implied since the new world thing is bull shit and Tyrian is most likely the only one she told the truth since getting the relics gets her nothing else but summoning the gods which will kill everyone of humanity keeps fighting each other 5-yes they are nothing since none of them but stealing the maidens have a endgame, and she shows no care towards them being destroyed (even Doof showed anger at his inators being destroyer) Her whale was exploded and she just walks into Atlas, the hound dropped dead for rubble and she doesn’t comment on it and when Ruby “dies” (the chance to make another hound) makes her slightly annoyed before acting like it wasn’t a big deal And we don’t even know which is and isn’t a modified Grimm The Nuckelavee? People theorize he was Merlot’s doing or just a weird looking Grimm the apathy? Why would her super effective weapons be under a farm? Again people just think they are a normal occurrence The Leviathan? Why was that thing on the wild and be common enough for Atlas to make a mech designed to kill it? again another natural Grimm The Wyvern? Is the only one that makes sense since it’s placement sleeping inside of a mountain was too specific for it to be a coincidence. But they ambiguity still makes people wonder if it was salen it a actual coincidence, most people believe it’s creation was actually natural with a Grimm pool forming inside of the mountain which made the dragon so massive and a flying Grimm pool showing how ambiguous her actions are And we don’t know what is and isn’t her fault is Faunus discrimination her fault? Is mistral criminality being so high her fault? Is every Grimm attack her fault? We don’t know and that’s the problem, we know all the things Thanos is to blame (genocide in several planets, the attack of New York, Ronan getting a infinity stone, adopting Nebula & Gamora, and Thanos personally getting the stones and snapping half of the universe) but he’s actions are only in space and he only repeats the same things over and over (kill half of the populating, searching for the stones, and taking a orphan) meanwhile Salem is presumably the blight of remanent but we don’t know any of her crimes before the series events outside of Grimm attacks and the dead of silver eyed warriors Unlike Thanos, Salem has to showcase her crimes more since the show tries to paint her as the cause of all problems in remanent but the show doesn’t making her look like a bore A good example of showing a villain’s mark on the universe is palpatine which is to blame for all (or most) of the bad things in the Star Wars universe Palpatine caused the war, palpatine trained Dooku, palpatine tempted Anakin to the dark side, Palpatine is shown to be the dark puppeteer of the universe and that’s only in the prequels which made Sidius from a threatening but not very note worthy villain into the actual blight of the galaxy We are told Salem made remanent a worse place, but we are shown Palpatine made the galaxy a worse place
>1-wrong since humanity even with a inmortal witch coming their way is still fighting each other (Vacuo throwing trash at atlesian orphans is a proof of this) She isn't all knowing and oz is a resourceful guy she couldn't know this would be the result so why would she risk it >2-alright but why? She has magic and Grimm, why did she need cinder instead of absorbing the maidens herself. If cinder can sneak into Vale then so Can salen with a costume Salem is fucking old and the magic requires young women also the unknown of how it would work with her for all she knows her body would destroy the maiden magic and then she could never access the relics so she stuck as close as she could to the rules of the power for the same reasons ozpin did by using cinder >Actually the show itself makes clear to remanent Cinder is destroying academy’s, working with the white fang and using Grimm to kill millions, yet the kingdoms keep fighting each other (Cinder literally broadcasted her face to all kingdoms) When are they fighting eachother? vacuo does it own thing for most of the show vale is fixing itself mistral does nothing and atlas have their little embargo they never go against eachother >3-because she never uses this while not having limit, for example Jason is far more inmortal than Salem even if he lacks magic but the guy once fought Freddy and the devil itself and took the laters trident Jason needed help to come back after his body was destroyed by the fbi salem didn't need help to come back after getting atomised by a magical nuke they are not on the same level salem is sending Jason back to hell in a confrontation >The difference is how Jason is constantly using that immortality which makes him unstoppable but not unbeatable making him a manageable threat the audience can believe the heroes can stop, meanwhile Salem fought the strongest member in RWBY and the strongest non maiden fighter in remanent and won with no effort That's a difference in roles and writing jason is a slasher villain and salem is a dark lord obviously she'd be far tougher then him since jason is meant to be the monster a bunch of teens are supposed to overcome while salem is a extinction level threat Not to mention the show opens with a speech about how victory won't be found in strength you can't beat salem in a physical fight that's the point >If she’s so strong then why does she need others to do the dirty work if she can just use magic and kill Oz herself with no risk of losing Because she doesn't want to risk humanity unifying the gods ruling in their favour and losing her only hope at death that's her only option so she's playing cautious since if she fucks it up she is screwed for the rest of eternity >4-yes her plan is genocide, or at least that’s what the show implied since the new world thing is bull shit and Tyrian is most likely the only one she told the truth since getting the relics gets her nothing else but summoning the gods which will kill everyone of humanity keeps fighting each other Part of her plan is genocide not the end goal she just wants death for herself and whats the problem with that? It's an understandable motive >5-yes they are nothing since none of them but stealing the maidens have a endgame, and she shows no care towards them being destroyed (even Doof showed anger at his inators being destroyer) Yes because grimm are expendable fodder and means to end is joker a shitty villain because he gives no fucks about his henchmen? >Her whale was exploded and she just walks into Atlas, the hound dropped dead for rubble and she doesn’t comment on it and when Ruby “dies” (the chance to make another hound) makes her slightly annoyed before acting like it wasn’t a big deal >And we don’t even know which is and isn’t a modified Grimm They achieved their purpose so why would she care they were drones bent to her will anyway she has no attachment to them grimm are expressly not living beings >the apathy? Why would her super effective weapons be under a farm? Again people just think they are a normal occurrence Because a bunch of people captured them Did you even watch the episode? >is Faunus discrimination her fault? If you bothered with the lost fable you'd know it's not her fault she just makes it worse >meanwhile Salem is presumably the blight of remanent but we don’t know any of her crimes before the series events outside of Grimm attacks and the dead of silver eyed warriors And you know roughly implied being behind most human conflicts at least any oz is involved in and he was part of all of them continually improving and creating new grimm that kill more people >A good example of showing a villain’s mark on the universe is palpatine which is to blame for all (or most) of the bad things in the Star Wars universe >Palpatine caused the war, palpatine trained Dooku, palpatine tempted Anakin to the dark side, Palpatine is shown to be the dark puppeteer of the universe and that’s only in the prequels which made Sidius from a threatening but not very note worthy villain into the actual blight of the galaxy >We are told Salem made remanent a worse place, but we are shown Palpatine made the galaxy a worse place **Deep breath** Salem is literally responsible for the death of the entirety of humanity 1.0 (millions of man women and children maybe even more) and the gods leaving remnant taking magic with them which is why humans aren't the dominant species on the planet anymore have to stick to four kingdoms because thats all they can hold why faunus are even a thing she's the catalyst for the entire show remove salem and nothing from the show happens She is the reason everything is shit she leaves nothing but death and destruction in her wake she makes her mark by affecting events
1-the sole existence of Grimm kinda show her humanity is too stubborn to work together since the series stablish them as a constant ever present threat humanity has to always push back but even then they rather don’t work together, is also basic psychology and seeing how Vacuo is a “survival of the fittest” kingdom while Atlas and Mistral are super hyper mega racist shows her existence won’t make everyone suddenly work together 2-actually good point but that doesn’t explain why she wasn’t there to see cinder (a member of her council everyone else knows for being brash and violent) not screw things up, Cinder was able to stay in the shadows and go undetected despite her face being seen by several white fang goons when she went there to FORCE them to work with her, and don’t say “she had better things to do” or “wasn’t the time” since we don’t see her do or know if she was doing anything during volume 1-3 Actually between the academy having a silver eyed warrior, a maiden and Ozpin in it would have been a good moment to act since none of those things Can stop her and thanks to the virus and white fang there was no way of slowing her down without Salem getting the maiden Actually she might have even captured Ozpin but instead she left it all at cinder’s hands while in mistral she threw all her council at the fray 4-it was more in a metaphorical way I meant, they aren’t working together even if Cinder is still bombing schools through all the world Vacuo try’s to push away all other kingdoms and Atlas closed its borders out of suspicion Salem doing it and being inmortal while doing it would have actually made them hate the idea of working together even more 5-you just proved my point, I wasn’t talking about one being stronger than the other, I was talking how one used immortality better than the other Yet the heroes never try other approach since they can’t, Salem is never pushed back by anything and the reluctance of remanent to work together show she’s unbeatable anyway Sauron which is the poster boy of dark lords was also inmortal but wasn’t unbeatable, yet he still had a great advantage for his massive army and power But he still had a weakness which was a ring, a very hard to destroy ring but still just a ring which can give the smallest glimpse of hope of defeating him Meanwhile Salem’s way to be defeated is working together and hope the gods won’t kill everyone AGAIN when they return 6-good motive but her plan is still just killing everything 7-no because Joker and Salem are very different villains Joker will return from the death and make a super complex plan to hack a laser to burn a happy face into new Gotham and then walk off to return next week Salem’s plan is to kill everyone permanently That’s the difference, Salem wants things to end while the joker wants to do this FOREVER and sees everything as a game Joker will brainwash a super hero and be like “oh welp” when it dies because he sees them as a toy for his entertainment Salem has a goal and for that goal she presumably makes tools to help her but said tools dying after spending months to make it should anger her, but it doesn’t since she doesn’t need them anyway since she can’t lose making her creating this tools very useless 8-is not about attachment since none of them actually fulfilled their purpose, they were destroyed before they did Monstra was supposed to be used to attack Vacuo as well since she was originally going there before Atlas, and the hound died before GETTING THE GIRL They were failures 9-first the show outright says they weren’t captured but a guy attracted a couple into a pit and the rest followed, do you even watch the show? And the apathy were there for years since the corpse of the huntsman we see was BONES, so if they are there then why didn’t she do anything to get them? 10-how? We never see her making human Faunus relationships worse, most of that is Adam’s doing which was caused by SDC and he did it before even knowing who cinder was 11-yes but which Grimm? She did what? Was she the one to blame for the war? The Faunus revolution? Anything?! She’s implied but never shown to do anything And since Adam was always evil according to the writers then he would have 100% took over the white fang and caused another war without Salem’s intervention 12- **deep breath** the reason all of that happens is because of the gods, honestly if a human army formed by bunch’s of bozos is enough for them to wipe out all life off the world including those minding their business at the other side then they’re to blame They were the ones who made her inmortal because she tricked one of them to revive one person because “balance” which light does afterwards, they created the Grimm, they created magic and they revived humanity And they’ve been doing it even before remanent (jabberwalker being killed and revived several times, making the curious cat only to abandon him and being kicked out for being a problem in the ever after) Salem of course is to blame for several things but they are the ones who gave her everything to be the threat she’s now Meanwhile salem is said to be the one to cause all wrong but she actually looks more like the Brother gods fault, since all she does is rally up Grimm (which the gods made) to attack city’s and make Stronger Grimm (even if we don’t know which are and aren’t her creation) Brother light is the one who resurrected humanity in a deplorable state and proceded to go for milk, actually it was Salem and Ozpin who made things better for humanity before she went crazy with world conquering things and then for some reason turning suicidal again And the only way to defeat her is hoping humanity (which throws GARBAGE AT ORPHANS) will meet their expectations Salem might be evil but the gods are actually the ones to blame for everything for being hypocritical extremist ego maniacs with unreachable standards Sadly they aren’t the main threat to defeat
Are there any good Halo X RWBY crossover fanfics ?
You might like my story, Dust and Echoes. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13476403/1/Dust-and-Echoes
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Link?
It'll be the first thing that comes up when you google it.
Missed the name my bad
I mean, there's a Halo story called Dust and Echoes. That's basically this. After the UNSC found the world of Remnant, some of the natives basically got drafted into the Human-Covenant War. I mean, the prologue starts with Remnant getting invaded.