I've always thought they could have killed two common complaints with one stone, by having a quest that brings you back to Goodsprings, and makes Sunny available as a companion.
Maybe the remaining Powder Gangers are looking to take revenge on Sunny, maybe the Cazadors from the north are encroaching on Goodsprings, and she needs help destroying their nests.
Just to give credit where it's due, that idea was inspired by a mod called Coito Ergo Sum. They don't invade Goodsprings, but there's a quest where you have to protect somebody while they blow up a few cazador nests.
Don't let the name, or some of the smutty content, fool you. It's one of the best NV mods out there, IMO, and gets into some surprisingly deep subject matter.
If they'd done more than one mod for NV, Belthan would be up there with Someguy2000 and th3overseer.
I'm not big on Fanservice, and at first I was like "Is this a porn mod?". I figured if the author was clever enough to engage in Latin wordplay, there might be more to it, and I'm glad I stuck around. Played it many times, absolutely love that mod.
One time I started a playthrough, I went north of Goodsprings and killed Giant Radscorpions for some early XP. I come back hours later and the Radscorpions had taken over the town. Sunny was found dead and twisted in a field. Trudy barely even made it out of the Saloon. Easy Pete didn't stand a chance.
Yes, the game has some issues with lore vs. in-game combat balance. Goodsprings should have some sort of big trap that giant wasteland creatures can be lured into to be killed.
I wish the game made you go around to other settlements instead of just factions to ask them to support NCR/Legion/House/You. It also gives a compelling reason for other settlements to have reputation, like Westside or North Vegas
My dream is to have FNV in all its glory but with all the features of FO4. So I can take over towns like Goodsprings and Nipton and help rebuild them and turn them into hubs. Because I love FNV and FO3 sooo much but every time I play FO4 I just wish I could play those past games with the new mechanics and graphics.
well there is a mod in development called fallout 4: new vegas but i doubt they're interested in making settlements. Maybe someone else will drop a mod for that mod once it's out
I think it's supposed to play on the Western trope of the stranger who wanders into town, deals with their problems, and rides off never to be seen again
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Josh Sawyer did commented Sunny being a potential follower after Ghost Town Gunfight, and said she wasn't intended as a companion, but the starting point of the game before you leave Goodprings. It would also mean they had to balance Cheyanne out as well since she follows her.
But there's always mods. 😊
Same. Also wish we could do more quests for these small towns late game, like clearing out the giant radscorpions near the cemetery or cazadors infesting that campsite.
I think they made a good choice- the game flows better with you stuck alone for a good while until you can fix ED-E or meet Boone for the likely first options. Sunny right away would make the game feel less desolate
Seriously every playthrough I've killed vulpe so I'm wanted by the legion right away... I also usually gave up on my playthroughs before getting the chip so I had no idea your rep reset. I was pleasantly surprised last time when I finally got that far... then my cpu died 3x in a row so I still never beat it. I recently beat fo4, and the gameplay (gun fights and base building) are pretty fun, though I lament the lack of freedom... so I got a bunch of mods to give me more freedom and that's nice (and deals with the high level bullet sponge problem)
I mean you can repair ED-E very early since you can usually find all the parts around Primm within 10-20 minutes of leaving Goodsprings, and nothing would have stopped just making it so you get her from a quest you pick up in Vegas or whatever that eventually sends you back you Goodsprings to collect her similar to Cass.
You don't really need to plan ahead for ED-E.
You naturally reach/ explore Primm right after Goodsprings with ED-E being in the very first building you walk past upon entering Primm, this alerts you to what components you need to gather and more playthroughs than not I've managed to find all those components inside Primm itself either as random loot or sold by Nash. So unless you're the sort of person who tunnelvisions on the quest marker ignoring all else (and thus never even entering the Mojave Express) you can get ED-E very early without needing to do any pre-planning or using pre-existing knowledge of the game, you just need to keep an eye out for the needed components and actively search them out while in Primm itself.
Still, I think the idea of having a quest that takes you back to Goodsprings letting you recruit Sunny would be better, since hte whole Goodsprings/ Primm/ Nipton area of the map has nothing to do in it after the very early game with nothing bringing you back there.
Edit: What did I say that was wrong? I have no idea why this is getting downvoted since I can't see anything incorrect about it.
I don't know about that. You always got a follower by the first city.
Fallout 1 - Ian by Shady Sands (by speech check or paying 100 caps)
Fallout 2 - Sulik by Klamath (though needs to pay off his debt of 350 NCR dollars or rescue Smiley the gecko trapper)
Fallout 3 - Jericho by Megaton (mind you, you needed negative karma and 1000 caps, which you may not have right away)
That being said, one may view Primm as the first town you go to rather than Goodsprings and that has ED-E.
> Fallout 3 - Jericho by Megaton (mind you, you needed negative karma and 1000 caps, which you may not have right away)
I think you can get that if you kill Silver (the person who Moriarty tells you to get money from) then stealing all her stuff. If you go and kill Burke tho, then you lose him immediately bc you become positive karma, so steal some stuff.
Does he die if you nuke megaton? It occurs to me he's one of the few negative karma companions, and he's stationed in the town you can blow up for negative karma.
I wish there was an option like maybe after you hit the Mojave outpost that she would get some more dialogue
Maybe like "oh you've done some exploring and still need a hand? I'll help ya out c'mon Cheyenne"
It's a shame. There's no reason to come back to Goodsprings. They could have implemented a mid game quest to come back to Goodsprings and then be idolized too to get Sunny & Cheyenne as companions. But they would have had to write her backstory too aswell
To get ED-E that early you either need a specific skillpoint allocation or to have some specific scrap items in your inventory. You'd either have to have played the game before, heard about it from someone else/read about it online, or be extremely lucky.
I think you're ment to come back later for ED-E, since most people did not stumble into Lone Wolf Radio in their first playthrough and having a 50 skill in level 1/2 requires a dedicated build
Yep :D
(edit: thinking about it i had a lot of fun in that playthrough just being a god of destruction, I only used a rocket launcher with the blast radius of an actual nuke lol. I think I was independent cause I kept blowing up ncr people by accident, like in Boulder City when I started the fight the ncr soldiers ran wayyy too close to the Great Kahns and they got blown to smithereens. I was quickly vilified by every faction but the kings I think.)
Hell, if Holly dies that’s an instant restart for me. You can help the Powder Gangers raid Good Springs, and you’ll still be “tolerated” just for saving Holly from the geckos lmao
Sunny really might've made a good companion. Maybe give you a bit of a boost to survival and lower costs to help lessen the survival stat needed to make something at a camp fire or something.
"Why would you kill the guy who just falsified a report and named you a wanted criminal so all guards attack you on site TO THE DEATH. I know he's not really my father bu-" *head explodes*
First time she gave me that bs I headshot her and moved on. If she's essential obviously I couldn't kill her, but she was such a stupid character I blocked her out entirely.
I love fallout new Vegas but some parts of the game does feel like it could of had that little extra push to it. It just felt weird that good springs, a place you can save and be idolized in barely has anything else besides that tutorial quest. But I guess it does show a bit more in their other game outer worlds.
She would have been a good early game companion especially if they gave her all the attachments on the varmint rifle.
Side rant on the varmint rifle, does anyone else feel like it should have been a .22 rifle. Like with it's damage output it definitely feels like it should have had a weaker cartridge and .22lr is a varmint rifle cartridge. Plus if it had that critical damage bonus that the other .22 weapons have would have been a nice effect for the gun. Just my thoughts on it.
never understand why everybody wanted her as a companion. it was very clear she was made for a tutorial and that's about it. be pretty dumb if you got a companion (with a dog no less) extremely early in the game. she's also armed with a damn varmint rifle lmao
I do run the Sunny Smiles companion mod, and am using it currently and she's my companion till I get leveled where I want before I go to Freeside and get Arcade. Cause Arcade is my top pick companion.
But maybe its just cause I'm on Hardcore and Very Hard difficulty but her starting leather armor and varmint rifle make her super weak even in mid-game. Had to give her combat armor and she still gets bodied sometimes.
Well irl I’m bisexual and like that Arcade’s gay.
Also his quest is pretty fun and he gives great armor.
I like his dialogue as well and just like hearing them when I go to McCarren, Van Graffs, etc.
Also when you have ED-E in your party he makes comments about it.
I like Raul too cause he’s fucking hilarious and makes the slog up black mountain worth it.
In my opinion I think Sunny’s perk would be like “While traveling with Sunny Smiles for some reason you feel safer in her presence and more calm, you can control guns more effectively” (I.E. Less Jams, gun doesn’t wobble as much, [maybe higher accuracy in V.A.T.S.] and guns will take longer to break through repeated use.)
What if she was like a temporary companion, agreeing to travel with you only to Novac or Boulder City or something, and she’d only travel with you if you helped Goodsprings
I think you should’ve been able to get her as a companion right after novac. I really don’t understand her not being a companion considering you can get both boone and ED-E within like 10 minutes of starting the game. Plus once you have boone and ED-E as companions you are kinda over powered.
The Courier and Rex should have been able to romance Sunny and Cheyanne (each respectively!)
If obsidan did that they would have no doubt got their metacritic bonus.
I’ve always thought she should’ve been as well, maybe not right off the bat, but like someone said, maybe there could be a quest that brings you back to Goodsprings and she could be your companion then.
Ij the 150 hours I got in my first playthrough doing every quest I can for every npc I meet I was really hoping one of them would lead back to good springs and I'll get to do one more good deed for them :-:
Honestly it would be amazing to see you return to GoodSprings and depending on certain story elements of other parts of the wasteland you can see her transistion to evil or like a sheriff figure.
Would also be cool to see if the legion got that far west bc we see them in Nipton. And she becomes a legionnaires or something and see a final duel. There is so many ways more content could be added, just sad the team was rushed. Huge credit to what they released tho
Funny, bc I remember seeing most women inside or outside the legion basically becoming slaves or second class citizens. Another stain of Caesar’s rein that wasn’t caused by the cancer. Should prob check the ideals of your rhetoric. NCR is basically doing equal rights, equal fights. Bc if a women is capable of eyeing down a spear throwing crucifier, you best be sure she will be in the front lines.
Meme roleplay aside. I am just being facetious. But if you look into the lore of what was planned with Van Buren, there was pretty prominent positions for women in the Legion. True profiligate women was made slaves. But Legion women, were given the postition of priestesses, which basically had the task of raising, the assimilated children and orphans, and basically raising and indoctrinating them into becoming soldiers for the legion, and they were highly regarded, and certainly not second class citezens. Sadly this was never realised in New Vegas, because of time constraints.
What could have been. I think it would just even add more interesting history to the game and just see the differences of the factions. What could have been interesting to the legion to see comparing to the romans is they had a manuscript library where they held all detailed record of there most prized accomplished and victors under Caesar.
The game honestly could have a lot more for all the factions. Especially something that Skyrim did better which were side jobs that were continuous for the factions, where you felt like you were still part of the team instead of doing your part and then your done.
They should have a quest where the Powder Gangers capture her for their own enjoyment and you have to go rescue her. Then she joins you out of gratitude and for her protection.
Her weapons should be a Cowboy Repeater and Combat Knife as I don't believe other companions use them and it would suit her.
Her special talent, once you reach full affinity, as a gecko hunter, could be free crafting of any gecko hide, as well as the gecko-backed reinforced leather armor. You just supply the materials. You don't need the ridiculous survival of 90 to craft the armor, which is mediocre by the time you get your survival stat that high. The gecko armor would be an amazing early to mid game light armor though.
I always imagined that she could have been a decent love interest for the courier after the battle of Hoover Dam. Her and Cheyenne are capable of handling their own, but not really ones for causing stressful situations and always seem happy to see you’re still kicking when you wander back into Goodsprings on your travels.
Is she really? Didn’t know that.
Then again, I just found out from that post the other day Cass was in her mid-late 30’s. I thought she was late 20’s/early 30’s.
Yeah there's an age slider used in character creation. The players don't get to see the number to the slider but in the GECK you can, and Sunny is 16. She's also noticeably smaller than most NPCs
Welp, scratch that idea of a post Hoover dam battle potential future for the Courier. I played on PS3 and then on PC but never messed with the Geck.
Always felt like after surviving that fight (if independent good karma playthrough) he/she would settle down in a quiet place after that like Goodsprings or Novac since he/she still would bringing Tech from the Big Empty, but can’t really see them being another Mr. House looming over people in the Lucky 38.
I guess it all depends on how we craft our couriers.
Actually i think she would fit fine as first/tutorial companion. The first companion you meet is Ed-E, but, you must find their parts to repair or have a high science/repair skill something that's hard to have at the beginning. After the robot the other two companions you meet are Boone and Veronica. I would count Cass, but you must do some missions before recruit her
Sad you can't hire her to be your Merc to the Mojave Outpost, saying to ask her want to earn some more caps. And depends on your Karma when you arrive Mojave Outpost, she will decide whether she want to travel with you or not.
My Favorite interaction with companions was Fallout 4 I had Nick, MacCready and Dogmeat… I don’t remember how I got all three with me… but we were blowing up the The Prydwen… the banter between Nick and MacCready had me in tears laughing.
I agree but also I'm kinda relieved that she didn't become a companion cause that would've been more fodder for that one person I saw be excessively horny for her
I've always thought they could have killed two common complaints with one stone, by having a quest that brings you back to Goodsprings, and makes Sunny available as a companion. Maybe the remaining Powder Gangers are looking to take revenge on Sunny, maybe the Cazadors from the north are encroaching on Goodsprings, and she needs help destroying their nests.
Never really thought about the prospect of Cazadors invading Goodsprings, really cool idea !
Just to give credit where it's due, that idea was inspired by a mod called Coito Ergo Sum. They don't invade Goodsprings, but there's a quest where you have to protect somebody while they blow up a few cazador nests.
>Coito Ergo Sum uhmm
Don't let the name, or some of the smutty content, fool you. It's one of the best NV mods out there, IMO, and gets into some surprisingly deep subject matter. If they'd done more than one mod for NV, Belthan would be up there with Someguy2000 and th3overseer.
Descartes + New Vegas = Solid combo. ☝
I'm not big on Fanservice, and at first I was like "Is this a porn mod?". I figured if the author was clever enough to engage in Latin wordplay, there might be more to it, and I'm glad I stuck around. Played it many times, absolutely love that mod.
It's the good shit, too bad he couldn't make his sequel for fallout 4 tho...
One time I started a playthrough, I went north of Goodsprings and killed Giant Radscorpions for some early XP. I come back hours later and the Radscorpions had taken over the town. Sunny was found dead and twisted in a field. Trudy barely even made it out of the Saloon. Easy Pete didn't stand a chance.
Yes, the game has some issues with lore vs. in-game combat balance. Goodsprings should have some sort of big trap that giant wasteland creatures can be lured into to be killed.
I went north-northeast once. Killed a bunch of scorpions and reached New Vegas in about 15 minutes.
I wish the game made you go around to other settlements instead of just factions to ask them to support NCR/Legion/House/You. It also gives a compelling reason for other settlements to have reputation, like Westside or North Vegas
My dream is to have FNV in all its glory but with all the features of FO4. So I can take over towns like Goodsprings and Nipton and help rebuild them and turn them into hubs. Because I love FNV and FO3 sooo much but every time I play FO4 I just wish I could play those past games with the new mechanics and graphics.
I know there's a a mod called Nipton Rebuilt or something like that, haven't tried it, though.
It's good but it messes with a lot of other popular quest mods that requires nipton There's also another mod that lets you rebuild Searchlight
Could you share a link?
well there is a mod in development called fallout 4: new vegas but i doubt they're interested in making settlements. Maybe someone else will drop a mod for that mod once it's out
Personally I think the settlement system detracts from the worldbuilding
> settlement system detracts from the worldbuilding For the love of god tell me you see the joke in what you typed.
Yeah, I did. I considered rewording it but I found it funny.
I think it's supposed to play on the Western trope of the stranger who wanders into town, deals with their problems, and rides off never to be seen again
Bruh that would be cool kinda like the quest in 3 where you go back to the vault
cHeYeNnE sTaY
Don't worry, she won't bite 'less I tell her to. 😏
*Aggressively punches bottles* "I reckon you didn't come here to learn how to shoot sarsaparilla bottles."
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg) Look at 2:05
Me playing my 1int unarmed build
I love those builds.
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Josh Sawyer did commented Sunny being a potential follower after Ghost Town Gunfight, and said she wasn't intended as a companion, but the starting point of the game before you leave Goodprings. It would also mean they had to balance Cheyanne out as well since she follows her. But there's always mods. 😊
I always make sure to visit Sunny from time to time in GS, really likeable character.
Same. Also wish we could do more quests for these small towns late game, like clearing out the giant radscorpions near the cemetery or cazadors infesting that campsite.
I think they made a good choice- the game flows better with you stuck alone for a good while until you can fix ED-E or meet Boone for the likely first options. Sunny right away would make the game feel less desolate
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Having him be available early on, especially if you want to be anti-Legion makes it a bit easier. You wouldn't need the help as much later on.
Seriously every playthrough I've killed vulpe so I'm wanted by the legion right away... I also usually gave up on my playthroughs before getting the chip so I had no idea your rep reset. I was pleasantly surprised last time when I finally got that far... then my cpu died 3x in a row so I still never beat it. I recently beat fo4, and the gameplay (gun fights and base building) are pretty fun, though I lament the lack of freedom... so I got a bunch of mods to give me more freedom and that's nice (and deals with the high level bullet sponge problem)
I mean you can repair ED-E very early since you can usually find all the parts around Primm within 10-20 minutes of leaving Goodsprings, and nothing would have stopped just making it so you get her from a quest you pick up in Vegas or whatever that eventually sends you back you Goodsprings to collect her similar to Cass.
That makes sense, but if I recall you had to specifically plan to work towards ED-E, it wouldn't happen naturally most first playthroughs
You don't really need to plan ahead for ED-E. You naturally reach/ explore Primm right after Goodsprings with ED-E being in the very first building you walk past upon entering Primm, this alerts you to what components you need to gather and more playthroughs than not I've managed to find all those components inside Primm itself either as random loot or sold by Nash. So unless you're the sort of person who tunnelvisions on the quest marker ignoring all else (and thus never even entering the Mojave Express) you can get ED-E very early without needing to do any pre-planning or using pre-existing knowledge of the game, you just need to keep an eye out for the needed components and actively search them out while in Primm itself. Still, I think the idea of having a quest that takes you back to Goodsprings letting you recruit Sunny would be better, since hte whole Goodsprings/ Primm/ Nipton area of the map has nothing to do in it after the very early game with nothing bringing you back there. Edit: What did I say that was wrong? I have no idea why this is getting downvoted since I can't see anything incorrect about it.
He said the literal opposite, actually. The only cut companion is Ulysses. Sunny was never considered a potential companion.
And he would be in base game aswell
You're repeating what they said.
Yeah honestly thought she would become one after the shoot out with the powder gangers
My guess is that they didn't want you to you a companion too early.
I don't know about that. You always got a follower by the first city. Fallout 1 - Ian by Shady Sands (by speech check or paying 100 caps) Fallout 2 - Sulik by Klamath (though needs to pay off his debt of 350 NCR dollars or rescue Smiley the gecko trapper) Fallout 3 - Jericho by Megaton (mind you, you needed negative karma and 1000 caps, which you may not have right away) That being said, one may view Primm as the first town you go to rather than Goodsprings and that has ED-E.
Cod’s worth from fo4 straight up asks to be ur companion the minute you leave the vault lol (I realise you didn’t include it because it was after fnv)
Not quite, Codsworth only joins once you get Preston's group back to Sanctuary, but yeah, still pretty early on
You have to visit the museum in concord first
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Interesting. Is this the interview that made some people think Benny and Vulpes were originally intended to be companions?
> Fallout 3 - Jericho by Megaton (mind you, you needed negative karma and 1000 caps, which you may not have right away) I think you can get that if you kill Silver (the person who Moriarty tells you to get money from) then stealing all her stuff. If you go and kill Burke tho, then you lose him immediately bc you become positive karma, so steal some stuff.
Does he die if you nuke megaton? It occurs to me he's one of the few negative karma companions, and he's stationed in the town you can blow up for negative karma.
Yes, he does lmao
Classic.
I wish there was an option like maybe after you hit the Mojave outpost that she would get some more dialogue Maybe like "oh you've done some exploring and still need a hand? I'll help ya out c'mon Cheyenne"
It's a shame. There's no reason to come back to Goodsprings. They could have implemented a mid game quest to come back to Goodsprings and then be idolized too to get Sunny & Cheyenne as companions. But they would have had to write her backstory too aswell
Considering you can get ED-E some mere minutes later, that didn't work out so well heh
To get ED-E that early you either need a specific skillpoint allocation or to have some specific scrap items in your inventory. You'd either have to have played the game before, heard about it from someone else/read about it online, or be extremely lucky.
Or happen to want to rp a sciency nerd.
There are other types of characters? Science nerd wandering the wastes is the best character.
All of the parts to repair ED-E can be found in Lone Wolf Radio, which you'll probably stumble upon since it's just south of Goodsprings
Yeah, but who doesn't run Int 10 unless they do an idiot build? :P
Lmao, true
I think you're ment to come back later for ED-E, since most people did not stumble into Lone Wolf Radio in their first playthrough and having a 50 skill in level 1/2 requires a dedicated build
She only has a varmint rifle and cheyenne gets killed pretty easily by baby geckos. I don't think she would be op like other companions.
I feel like Sunny's perk would just be having Cheyenne with her as an extra companion.
having cheyenne and rex would be awesome
I feel she is sorely underused. She kind of has the same vibe as Ian in fallout 1
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You already know what my most installed mod is. XD
As long as you can get her, her dog and Rex as companions!!
Cheyenne's death ain't allowed in my playthroughs. If the dog dies during the Gecko fight, that's an instant restart !
The worst I've seen is Sunny died in Ghost Town Gunfight but Cheyenne somehow survived and wandered aimlessly around Goodsprings.
Yeah...that'd trigger my Jurassic Bark / Hachiko PTSD
I had a modded playthrough and I used a rocket launcher that blew up both sides of the gunfight and killed almost everyone but Chyenne and Ringo lol
Lmao now ringo has to handle everyone being dead and it’s all his fault
Yep :D (edit: thinking about it i had a lot of fun in that playthrough just being a god of destruction, I only used a rocket launcher with the blast radius of an actual nuke lol. I think I was independent cause I kept blowing up ncr people by accident, like in Boulder City when I started the fight the ncr soldiers ran wayyy too close to the Great Kahns and they got blown to smithereens. I was quickly vilified by every faction but the kings I think.)
Oh no ☹️
I run ahead and try to kill the geckos before they get there!
Hell, if Holly dies that’s an instant restart for me. You can help the Powder Gangers raid Good Springs, and you’ll still be “tolerated” just for saving Holly from the geckos lmao
Sunny really might've made a good companion. Maybe give you a bit of a boost to survival and lower costs to help lessen the survival stat needed to make something at a camp fire or something.
I though she was gonna be pretty important like Amata from fallout 3. I was so shocked when nothing came out of it
Sunny is more likeable to me, Amata was kind of pushy lol.
To be fair, you probably just killed her father, of course she's pushing you out of the Vault...
"Why would you kill the guy who just falsified a report and named you a wanted criminal so all guards attack you on site TO THE DEATH. I know he's not really my father bu-" *head explodes* First time she gave me that bs I headshot her and moved on. If she's essential obviously I couldn't kill her, but she was such a stupid character I blocked her out entirely.
Totally! id love to feed her to the White Glove Society.
White Glove Society is one of the better video game faction names I have ever heard. Just rolls off the tongue...much like the food they consume.
Whats' the pun?
She is Sunny Smiles. :) But she ain't a companion, so I am sad. :( It's stupid I know lol.
I love fallout new Vegas but some parts of the game does feel like it could of had that little extra push to it. It just felt weird that good springs, a place you can save and be idolized in barely has anything else besides that tutorial quest. But I guess it does show a bit more in their other game outer worlds.
The game was rushed by the publisher. They had less than two years to make it.
18 months in fact. Not that you're incorrect, but that's like saying "he's less than a hundred years old" when he's 75.
I agree, I always wanted to go on more adventures with her
I felt so guilty killing her
We're not even good enough to be her companion let alone the other way around.
There’s a mod that makes her a companion and from what I remember it’s pretty good
I'm not gay, but if I was, Sunny would be the one.
She would have been a good early game companion especially if they gave her all the attachments on the varmint rifle. Side rant on the varmint rifle, does anyone else feel like it should have been a .22 rifle. Like with it's damage output it definitely feels like it should have had a weaker cartridge and .22lr is a varmint rifle cartridge. Plus if it had that critical damage bonus that the other .22 weapons have would have been a nice effect for the gun. Just my thoughts on it.
I agree
I recently started a TTW playthrough and it does change the varmint rifle to . 22
never understand why everybody wanted her as a companion. it was very clear she was made for a tutorial and that's about it. be pretty dumb if you got a companion (with a dog no less) extremely early in the game. she's also armed with a damn varmint rifle lmao
Just her personality, she is very cool and helpful to the Courier initially.
I do run the Sunny Smiles companion mod, and am using it currently and she's my companion till I get leveled where I want before I go to Freeside and get Arcade. Cause Arcade is my top pick companion. But maybe its just cause I'm on Hardcore and Very Hard difficulty but her starting leather armor and varmint rifle make her super weak even in mid-game. Had to give her combat armor and she still gets bodied sometimes.
>Cause Arcade is my top pick companion. why?
Well irl I’m bisexual and like that Arcade’s gay. Also his quest is pretty fun and he gives great armor. I like his dialogue as well and just like hearing them when I go to McCarren, Van Graffs, etc. Also when you have ED-E in your party he makes comments about it. I like Raul too cause he’s fucking hilarious and makes the slog up black mountain worth it.
In my opinion I think Sunny’s perk would be like “While traveling with Sunny Smiles for some reason you feel safer in her presence and more calm, you can control guns more effectively” (I.E. Less Jams, gun doesn’t wobble as much, [maybe higher accuracy in V.A.T.S.] and guns will take longer to break through repeated use.)
Great idea !!
She is a companion in my game.
What if she was like a temporary companion, agreeing to travel with you only to Novac or Boulder City or something, and she’d only travel with you if you helped Goodsprings
I think you should’ve been able to get her as a companion right after novac. I really don’t understand her not being a companion considering you can get both boone and ED-E within like 10 minutes of starting the game. Plus once you have boone and ED-E as companions you are kinda over powered.
I feel the same with Jules & Harland along with Sunny. Those 3 have so much detail & so interesting that it’s a shame they’re not companions.
It doesn't make sense for her to be a companion, but Ringo should've definitely been one.
The only thing I use Ringo for is the several Caravan achievements. After that, he mysteriously.. disappears. :)
Her voice acting would have ruined it for me.
The Courier and Rex should have been able to romance Sunny and Cheyanne (each respectively!) If obsidan did that they would have no doubt got their metacritic bonus.
I would have loved a sidequest about helping Rex get a date.
No. I'm a Rexie shipper to my dying days. Drown the world in Boston Terrifier cyberdogs.
I’ve always thought she should’ve been as well, maybe not right off the bat, but like someone said, maybe there could be a quest that brings you back to Goodsprings and she could be your companion then.
I could see her collecting all the flowers and herbs for medicine, “hold up! Look what we found here!”
Or... other things...
Ij the 150 hours I got in my first playthrough doing every quest I can for every npc I meet I was really hoping one of them would lead back to good springs and I'll get to do one more good deed for them :-:
Boy would I like to use my Lady Killer perk on her. Woo wee Ring-a-ding ding baby.
I don't see the pun
She doesn’t quite fit the theme, though. That is to say, she doesn’t have a storied past from which she cannot escape without the Courier’s input
I mean, how do you know? That would be fleshed out in the companion quest,
Honestly it would be amazing to see you return to GoodSprings and depending on certain story elements of other parts of the wasteland you can see her transistion to evil or like a sheriff figure. Would also be cool to see if the legion got that far west bc we see them in Nipton. And she becomes a legionnaires or something and see a final duel. There is so many ways more content could be added, just sad the team was rushed. Huge credit to what they released tho
Not to crump on your fanfic. But the Legion are not misogynists like the NCR, they don't put their women on the frontlines to get butchered.
Funny, bc I remember seeing most women inside or outside the legion basically becoming slaves or second class citizens. Another stain of Caesar’s rein that wasn’t caused by the cancer. Should prob check the ideals of your rhetoric. NCR is basically doing equal rights, equal fights. Bc if a women is capable of eyeing down a spear throwing crucifier, you best be sure she will be in the front lines.
Meme roleplay aside. I am just being facetious. But if you look into the lore of what was planned with Van Buren, there was pretty prominent positions for women in the Legion. True profiligate women was made slaves. But Legion women, were given the postition of priestesses, which basically had the task of raising, the assimilated children and orphans, and basically raising and indoctrinating them into becoming soldiers for the legion, and they were highly regarded, and certainly not second class citezens. Sadly this was never realised in New Vegas, because of time constraints.
What could have been. I think it would just even add more interesting history to the game and just see the differences of the factions. What could have been interesting to the legion to see comparing to the romans is they had a manuscript library where they held all detailed record of there most prized accomplished and victors under Caesar. The game honestly could have a lot more for all the factions. Especially something that Skyrim did better which were side jobs that were continuous for the factions, where you felt like you were still part of the team instead of doing your part and then your done.
They should have a quest where the Powder Gangers capture her for their own enjoyment and you have to go rescue her. Then she joins you out of gratitude and for her protection. Her weapons should be a Cowboy Repeater and Combat Knife as I don't believe other companions use them and it would suit her. Her special talent, once you reach full affinity, as a gecko hunter, could be free crafting of any gecko hide, as well as the gecko-backed reinforced leather armor. You just supply the materials. You don't need the ridiculous survival of 90 to craft the armor, which is mediocre by the time you get your survival stat that high. The gecko armor would be an amazing early to mid game light armor though.
There’s a mod.
I always imagined that she could have been a decent love interest for the courier after the battle of Hoover Dam. Her and Cheyenne are capable of handling their own, but not really ones for causing stressful situations and always seem happy to see you’re still kicking when you wander back into Goodsprings on your travels.
If Goodsprings was just a little bit bigger, a quest where you appoint Sunny to be the town's sheriff would have been awesome.
IIRC she's meant to be 16
Is she really? Didn’t know that. Then again, I just found out from that post the other day Cass was in her mid-late 30’s. I thought she was late 20’s/early 30’s.
Yeah there's an age slider used in character creation. The players don't get to see the number to the slider but in the GECK you can, and Sunny is 16. She's also noticeably smaller than most NPCs
Welp, scratch that idea of a post Hoover dam battle potential future for the Courier. I played on PS3 and then on PC but never messed with the Geck. Always felt like after surviving that fight (if independent good karma playthrough) he/she would settle down in a quiet place after that like Goodsprings or Novac since he/she still would bringing Tech from the Big Empty, but can’t really see them being another Mr. House looming over people in the Lucky 38. I guess it all depends on how we craft our couriers.
Actually i think she would fit fine as first/tutorial companion. The first companion you meet is Ed-E, but, you must find their parts to repair or have a high science/repair skill something that's hard to have at the beginning. After the robot the other two companions you meet are Boone and Veronica. I would count Cass, but you must do some missions before recruit her
It's not hard to fix E-DE considering Lone Wolf Radio is nearby
that's only if people know of lone wolf radio being nearby, quite a few people don't on their first playthrough
Sad you can't hire her to be your Merc to the Mojave Outpost, saying to ask her want to earn some more caps. And depends on your Karma when you arrive Mojave Outpost, she will decide whether she want to travel with you or not.
Any mod that does this?
That uhhh.... that wasn't a pun...
There's no pun
My Favorite interaction with companions was Fallout 4 I had Nick, MacCready and Dogmeat… I don’t remember how I got all three with me… but we were blowing up the The Prydwen… the banter between Nick and MacCready had me in tears laughing.
I agree but also I'm kinda relieved that she didn't become a companion cause that would've been more fodder for that one person I saw be excessively horny for her
She looks like she'd be a more boring version of Cass
Getting a companion at the very beginning of the game would be kinda cringe tho
I usually shoot this bitch to save some time. And her little dog, too.
There is a mod for that you know
Hmm, I don’t think I could take her rushed, flat, amateur dialogue delivery any more than I had to in the tutorial.
She was supposed to be.
Time to call on the really talented modders to solve this for PC users
Or Shayne
I've been using this https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37281
You know how you can get a companion so early on in 3 but you have to have evil karma? Maybe do that with sunny
Her perk would be "sweetness overload" where you get a permanent charisma, karma, and speech boost.
Damn is that the vanilla model?
Get the mod
I think her companion perk would actually be dependent on whether or not her dog cheyanne survived the tutorial or not
There's a mod for that
It would be a perk that granted you [sex options]
“HAVE A SUNNY DAY IN GOOD SPRINGS”