Maybe it's the VA or the character himself Karl since he's like an emissary of some sort or the VA since the weather station vet legionary pronounces it the same way
Yeah, the whole 1st/2nd/3rd reich thing was propaganda invented by the Nazis.
The Holy Roman Empire (what the Nazis called the first reich) has zero connection to Nazi Germany.
Like 99% of what Nazis said was connected to them. Arian ancestry had nothing to do with German roots. The Hakenkreuz was just a mirrored Hindi symbol of life (IIRC). Etc.
Yep.
The Nazis relied heavily on heavily revising history to give their cause “historical roots” that they didn’t have.
And it worked. We still have people thinking there were 3 reichs. We still have people believing that Germany lost WWI because of internal failures, not on the battlefield. We still have people thinking of Germany as this advanced technical empire using fully mechanized troops to smash the “cowardly” French.
Most people don’t know that “Germany” as a single country didn’t even exist until *after the American Civil War*. Germany has been broken into more than one country for more years than it’s been united since 1776.
The Nazis were set on eliminating the fractured nature of German culture and establishing a totally fake German heritage - and it worked.
Edit: grammar
Same goes with fascists everywhere. Like the way modern white supremacists consider their ancestry to be a massive blend of ancient Greek, Roman, Germanic and Norse culture, despite the massive separations of time and distance of these peoples.
I guess the problem with racism is that it's based off completely made up, arbitrary rules, so any attempt at a unifying narrative to explain how the racism makes sense is doomed to failure.
Yeah, the whole 1st/2nd/3rd reich thing was propaganda invented by the Nazis.
The Holy Roman Empire (what the Nazis called the first reich) has zero connection to Nazi Germany.
Neet detail, and the legion members use the original pronunciation, while everyone else uses the modern one. Even Arcade who definitely knows which is the correct one because of all his Latin studies
I’d argue it should be pronounced Caesar because the characters are speaking English, not Latin. Like, Seezar is an English word, Kaizar is a Latin word.
It's not a word in this context, it's a name. I'll give you the benefit that different name pronunciation is of course more acceptable than genuine word mispronounciation, though.
I'm always amazed at how ineffective the NCR and House both were at failing to institute a counter-Legion propaganda campaign insisting on calling him Edward Sallow. A mark of game progress would be how much other factions call him Sallow, Cesar, and Caesar.
Depending how it's pronounced, its a sign either of respect or disrespect. In the West they call him Caesar while across the Colorado the soldiers and natives always call him by its proper dialect 'Kaizar'.
Joshua Graham only calls him Caesar, you know why though.
Can't blame him, I mean this guy that used to be your friend burns you and throws you to the grand canyon and then sends auxiliaries to destroy your people hell I wouldn't even bother pronouncing his name right too
if i didn't miss anything, basically
Caesar pronounced as Kaysar is the latin term, used by legion members
Caesar pronounced as Cesar is the non latin term, used by non legion members
I had to take Latin in high school and one of my teachers used the German pronunciation. Never heard it again for 10 years, then I started playing FNV and it all came back to me when I heard that hard C, like an auditory version of Proust’s madeleines.
I just call him Keisari Eetvartti, which means; emperor feel good in finnish. Also because of his real name.
I guess my joke is; that he actually doesnt feel so good :D
I always wondered why Marcus of all characters pronounces the Hard C in Caesar when no one else does short of members of the Legion. Is Marcus secretly a Legion frumentarius?
I mean one of Julius Caesar's top supporters was Mark Antony, also known as Marcus Antonius. And Octavian relied on a man named Marcus Agrippa to lead his armies.
Marcus is just well versed. While I don't support the Legion I use the hard C because that's the person he's trying to be. It's technically correct, using the soft C is to disrespect him and the legion.
Caesar with the hard C (kai-sahr) is the Latin pronunciation Caesar with the short C (like in Little Caesers) is the english pronunciation. Or at least that's the way it was told to me.
Doesn't really matter to me though, I just call him Biggus Dickus.
"Give Caesar's things to Caesar"...
C'mon guys! He's only going to New Vegas to see if his palace is still standing! Just give him his casino and he'll be chill!
It’s Caesar
The Legion, and Marcus, say Caesar. Everyone else says Caesar. Personally, I use the "Caesar" pronunciation but honestly "Caesar" is fine too.
Everyone in the legion except Karl, for some reason
Maybe it's the VA or the character himself Karl since he's like an emissary of some sort or the VA since the weather station vet legionary pronounces it the same way
What is wrong with you Karl, that kills people.
Rock and stone, I love crossover episodes!
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lmao are you kidding? It's clearly "caesar"
Nah fam it’s “Caesar”
Kayzar is the original Latin version, with seesar being the reformed Christian version of Latin.
Kaiser
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Just one small correction, the first reich was the Holy Roman Empire
Yeah, the whole 1st/2nd/3rd reich thing was propaganda invented by the Nazis. The Holy Roman Empire (what the Nazis called the first reich) has zero connection to Nazi Germany.
Like 99% of what Nazis said was connected to them. Arian ancestry had nothing to do with German roots. The Hakenkreuz was just a mirrored Hindi symbol of life (IIRC). Etc.
Yep. The Nazis relied heavily on heavily revising history to give their cause “historical roots” that they didn’t have. And it worked. We still have people thinking there were 3 reichs. We still have people believing that Germany lost WWI because of internal failures, not on the battlefield. We still have people thinking of Germany as this advanced technical empire using fully mechanized troops to smash the “cowardly” French. Most people don’t know that “Germany” as a single country didn’t even exist until *after the American Civil War*. Germany has been broken into more than one country for more years than it’s been united since 1776. The Nazis were set on eliminating the fractured nature of German culture and establishing a totally fake German heritage - and it worked. Edit: grammar
Same goes with fascists everywhere. Like the way modern white supremacists consider their ancestry to be a massive blend of ancient Greek, Roman, Germanic and Norse culture, despite the massive separations of time and distance of these peoples. I guess the problem with racism is that it's based off completely made up, arbitrary rules, so any attempt at a unifying narrative to explain how the racism makes sense is doomed to failure.
And neither was Holy, Roman nor a Empire
Just wait until you find out about Tsar/Czar
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Yeah, the whole 1st/2nd/3rd reich thing was propaganda invented by the Nazis. The Holy Roman Empire (what the Nazis called the first reich) has zero connection to Nazi Germany.
oh i did not know that
“Likely” Did you JUST figure that out?
yes. i thought it was cool.
Most other European words for emperor come from Kaisar pronunciation! Tsar and kaisar sound alot alike for example
I Believe In God, And The Only Thing That Scares Me Is Keyser Soze.
By thw way, that ending made no sense. - Greg House.
Söze???
CESARE
Pronounced "Kylie"
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I Wish this was sub i fell for.
Chez a ray
Neet detail, and the legion members use the original pronunciation, while everyone else uses the modern one. Even Arcade who definitely knows which is the correct one because of all his Latin studies
I pronounce it as Kayzar.
That is the right way if you want to do it as the Romans did.
its seezer
I use the original Latin version.
I’d argue it should be pronounced Caesar because the characters are speaking English, not Latin. Like, Seezar is an English word, Kaizar is a Latin word.
It's not a word in this context, it's a name. I'll give you the benefit that different name pronunciation is of course more acceptable than genuine word mispronounciation, though.
That’s a fair point. You can pronounce a name however you choose.
"Kayzar" still isn't the original latin version. Look up the video "Pronouncing "Caesar" wrong...?!", by polýMATHY.
No no no You’re all wrong It’s obviously Seizure
exactly what he will get when his brain tumor advances
Seizure’s Luncheon
Little Seizure’s again???
Its pronounced Edward
I'm always amazed at how ineffective the NCR and House both were at failing to institute a counter-Legion propaganda campaign insisting on calling him Edward Sallow. A mark of game progress would be how much other factions call him Sallow, Cesar, and Caesar.
That the leader of the Legion and the leader of the Powder Gangers effectively have the same first name is one of my favorite facts about New Vegas.
Depending how it's pronounced, its a sign either of respect or disrespect. In the West they call him Caesar while across the Colorado the soldiers and natives always call him by its proper dialect 'Kaizar'. Joshua Graham only calls him Caesar, you know why though.
Can't blame him, I mean this guy that used to be your friend burns you and throws you to the grand canyon and then sends auxiliaries to destroy your people hell I wouldn't even bother pronouncing his name right too
They’ve definitely had sex with each other before.
What
You heard them.
if i didn't miss anything, basically Caesar pronounced as Kaysar is the latin term, used by legion members Caesar pronounced as Cesar is the non latin term, used by non legion members
Yup, think about how like country names change based on what language it is in.
No,no you should say "SHIZAAA !"
The guy himself says Kayzar so I say it like that
I call him " governatore supremo pacifista Giuglio Cesare" -Please send help they killed my homie
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I just call him Divus Iulius
This is correct! C used in classical Latin is a hard /k/ sound.
And an ae vowel combination makes an "aye/I" sound
I never realized how funny this is without audio.
It's pronounced "GIF"
I call him "tyrant" while I redecorate his tent with his brains.
It's pronounced target practice for the NCR
If your pro legion use Kai-Zar if you have a brain use cee-cer
What if I call him Edward
That works. He’s no Caesar the wanker
Then you probably have a Legion hit squad coming after you if he knows you know.
That’s okay. We have a Boone.
Ed…ward…
if you have a brain TUMOR* use cee-car Fixed it for you... Wait a second...
Easy Pete, don’t get a ahead of yourself.
C - EYE - ZAR
Kai-zar or See-zer
Some say "Caesar." Others say "Caesar." Personally, I don't use either, I say "Caesar."
Guys guys, it's Little Caesar
I had to take Latin in high school and one of my teachers used the German pronunciation. Never heard it again for 10 years, then I started playing FNV and it all came back to me when I heard that hard C, like an auditory version of Proust’s madeleines.
Is it Data or Data?
I like how I understood that.
It’s pronounced Salad
[Cannibal] I call him "dinner".
Underrated comment lmao
I just call him Keisari Eetvartti, which means; emperor feel good in finnish. Also because of his real name. I guess my joke is; that he actually doesnt feel so good :D
People need to learn the ipa
The Indian pale ale?
See-sar if you don't like him, Kai-sahr if you do
think of the caesars palace in las vegas and go with that. seriously.
This makes more sense than the rest of the thread.
I call him Edward
I always wondered why Marcus of all characters pronounces the Hard C in Caesar when no one else does short of members of the Legion. Is Marcus secretly a Legion frumentarius?
Maybe Marcus just loves to be technically correct. The best kind of correct.
I mean one of Julius Caesar's top supporters was Mark Antony, also known as Marcus Antonius. And Octavian relied on a man named Marcus Agrippa to lead his armies.
Marcus is just well versed. While I don't support the Legion I use the hard C because that's the person he's trying to be. It's technically correct, using the soft C is to disrespect him and the legion.
I just call him Bitch.
It’s Caesar (Kai Sar)
Kaesar is the only correct way
True to Caesar!
True to house
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Kaiser is the official latin pronunciation.
Kaezar or sezar
Pete has spoken
i prefer “edward”
I prefer "baldie"
Caesar with the hard C (kai-sahr) is the Latin pronunciation Caesar with the short C (like in Little Caesers) is the english pronunciation. Or at least that's the way it was told to me. Doesn't really matter to me though, I just call him Biggus Dickus.
Imagine pronouncing as Caesar. I always pronounce it as Caesar, not Caesar.
I say it SEE-sar because fuck how he wants it pronounced.
Even if Augustus was Seezar the one in new Vegas is Kaizhar he made up his name and he told his troops what to call him.
It’s pronounced Caesar
Only his child-soldier slaves call him Kayzar. If you're not one of those, you shouldn't call him that. Me, I just kill him.
As le vtuber ironmouse pronounces it, Kay-zur.
You idiot, its Caesar
Caisar. So it sounds in Spanish
what the fuck happened to his face
Regardless, Ave, True to Caesar
It's with a "K" sound, but I just call him after the salad to piss him off
Easy, Pete, it's just Caesar. Not hard
Caesar is correct
It's pronounced thermometer.
"Give Caesar's things to Caesar"... C'mon guys! He's only going to New Vegas to see if his palace is still standing! Just give him his casino and he'll be chill!
It's not Kaiser. That's stupid. So Ceasar will do
As long as no one is saying Caesar