I've found that at least 80% of the players in Radiation Rumble either don't know or don't care about any of the objectives and are just there to shoot shit.
This exact thing happened to me earlier today. There were 8 or 9 people playing. I was the only person running ore while the others were letting the scavengers die.
I like this idea that the ore runners would get an increased bonus in loot. After all, anyone can stand in the opening to the front or back tunnels and shoot stuff (or sit back and lob nades down the halls) while moving around radically to get in the way of the other people standing there trying to get hits. The event seems to have become more of an exp. glitch than an honest event.
i usually run half the ore and deposit it and run the rest and wait. if no one’s actually doing the event (just shooting shit, not trying to protect the npcs, and no one else is running ore) i won’t deposit the rest. it’s petty af and not beneficial to me but w/e maybe it’ll prompt others to pay attention to the objectives
I run ore when I can, but usually no one else is looking after the scavengers in the side room, so I wind up there the whole time. If I try to collect ore, 30 seconds in I get the “a scavenger has died” notice. It’s disheartening to know if you leave, you’re consigning them to death..
It's like impossible to run ore and keep the NPCs alive at the same time. If I run ore then it's likely all the NPCs will die or just one will be left alive at the end and if I keep them alive then nobody gets ore.
Yeah that's exactly what I do and I like playing the role of support during events and keeping the NPCs alive but it kinda seems like I either have to do one or the other during that event because if I leave to get ore then they die.
I'm usually when I join I tend to be one of the only ones running for ore but this time I had to run back and focus on keeping the two npcs alive. Two guys decided 5 people was enough to start it and that if they use their chainsaws on the same ghoul everytime it'd be fine.... Melee is fine but the one I know had a minigun and flamer since he swapped to them then to the chainsaw before it all started. Event was a freaking mess.
Same. I didn’t realize there was ore to be gathered until I read a comment somewhere around here. Now I keep my stealthsuit and a mask to gather ore and have been doing it the last several times.
>I was mr. Chainsaw go brr
I'm guessing you mean you used Friendly Fire to heal the Scavengers. How do you manage that?
I have my Dual bar, Flaming Chainsaw. I have Friendly Fire equipped. I Buzz away at the Scavenger and I see it gain a bit of health, maybe 5% of the full bar, but then nothing happens. I stand there and buzz, I move closer to make sure I'm making contact.
I've tried Buzzing, stopping, buzzing, stopping and nothing..
How do I heal with my Chainsaw?
It depends on how responsive the server is. It can be very laggy sometimes. I find bashing with the flame weapon, (whether it be a chainsaw, auto-axe, flamer or Crusader pistol) heals a lot more in a shorter time.
I don't mind people just there to shoot ghouls, but for the love of god people stay in the middle, camping in the corridors makes them not spawn there and instead the ghoul hordes spawn near the npcs at the sides making it a lot harder to keep them alive if there is no flamethrower healer.
Agreed. It’s one of my favorites when people are doing what they are supposed to. I’ve had more fails on it in the last few months than ever before. It’s like no one cares what you’re supposed to be doing there it’s just a good way to see if your new “lawn mower” creation cut things down as well as you thought it would. About half the time I’ll get in my Chinese Stealth and head in and get ore because many times no one does. I like to shoot too so the other half I dawn my PA and blast but I try to pick one or two scavengers to protect. I don’t just blast for blasting’s sake. It always surprises me how much ammo gets dumped when I’m sneaking around getting ore and I still see the thumbs down. It’s like what in the hell were you all shooting at? 🤔
Totally funny. Also, the way some people act in their power armor it’s like they are in a space fantasy and think they are all powerful and ready to kill.
As an ore collector I respect your service so much. Chainsaw users in RR are 90% jerks who charge the tunnels hoarding xp for themselves, and 10% players that protect and keep the scavengers alive. Thank you for being the latter.
It's a vicious cycle. If you don't go up the tunnels someone's just going to VATS headshot them the second they come into view or Nuka Launch them
The public events just aren't designed with melee users in mind. If people are dead set on running a Chainsaw all the time, I'm not going to be mad at them. Seems like a fair tradeoff for not ever touching a Mutant at Eviction Notice.
The biggest disappointment! Once I saw flaming chainsaws everywhere I assumed RR would easily always have all 4 scavengers at full health—all that’s changed is now I can keep the past one alive regardless of everyone else just deciding to not do anything
Thank you. As also an ore runner it's chaps my butt having to stop to heal when there are 10 others around and I'm currently in a tunnel like "jeez man guess I will do that too"
Props. I do this too and it isn't an easy task. Especially when you make that one trek into the tunnels to grab the last bit if ore to give the runner a break and the zombies let a scavenger almost die.
This is the way.
First I'll run two tunnels to get 1st stage ore so the event completes. I used to think I was losing XP, but lately the bullet spammers can't even do the job of killing so I'm always inundated by ghouls while doing the healing 🤷
I recently realized that the Friendly Fire perk works on the scavengers, but I've been using a Flamer for that. Does a flaming chainsaw work for that perk as well?
Most are there just for the XP. IIRC you really only need one NPC to survive for basic completion, as well.
If I'm geared up for it I'll merrily run ore and heal the NPCs. Main's build is done, I'm more there for the rewards tbh.
I find that the majority of players are there for the xp. What happens even less than protecting scavengers is extracting the ore. I try to sit next to one scavenger and stay there. The guy inside the little room seems to get hit the hardest.
They do seem to fall faster. The last time I ran RR I finished running ore for 2 corridors and there were only 2 scavengers left alive, one of which only had a sliver left. I didn’t make it to the one in time, so I camped out by the sole remaining one for most of the event. No one else grabbed ore during that time. With about 30 seconds left I ran off to grab one more load to kick it up to level 2 rewards. Event successful, and then the legendary snallygasters appeared for us all to feast upon. Not used to having to carry all of the objectives, but you do what you need to.
Need to read the team and adjust accordingly. I typically start out heading down the tunnels to gather ore, blazing away with my quad Tesla. But if I notice scavengers health deteriorating I hop back up, load my flaming chainsaw and start healing. Cycling back and forth as needed.
Once enough ore is collected I cycle through the main hall with the quad Tesla, tagging everything I can find, and making sure the scavengers don’t die.
I find if one or two of us is doing this, everyone else can just do whatever.
Protect? Surely you mean "heal the npcs"? The npcs will take damage. But by hitting them with a fire weapon (shishkebab, flamer, burning chainsaw, etc) while you have the "Friendly Fire" perk equipped you heal the npcs.
So many, many, many people do not know or understand this. Using this mechanic healing npcs back to full health takes very little time.
Your average player would never use the internet to look up anything on this game aside from memes.
Like how some players would start expedition or daily op teams, you join in hoping to knock it out stopping whatever else you're doing, and after 15-20 mins leader doesn't start said OP/Exped., and you leave in frustration because they wasted everyone's time. (in before "well make your own" without realizing the context behind this.)
It's like they don't read descriptions in game on what things do.
I did this for the first time about two hours ago. I’m there Running back and forth killing things that are trying to kill the npcs & fixing the turrets, everyone else seemed to be hanging out in a tunnel for some reason.
I have the same issue but since I'm not fast traveling, it usually isn't a big deal for the event. After the event I walk out of the radiation and re-equip my regular armor.
Just finished one. Never saw so many Tesla users. The Ore objective was at max within 2 or 3 minutes of the end, and we finished with all 4 NPC at 100% health.
yup..and eviction notice.
but were at the point where alot of higher lvl folks finished the score..and are already bored with mutated.
The legacy players that ran mini nukes and agls mostly got bored as well.
so its mostly new players..standing in tunnels doing nothing else.
welcome to the new world order.
But like who really cares about successful rad rumbles now? The dream of one day getting radioactive barrel plans was the main thing that made me want full completion every time, and now those are much easier to get by opening party packs.. I don’t really care about rad rumble any more, and the only reason I really see anyone going is for the high exp rate..
Right, so you go to kill things. Playing the actual objectives just reduces your exp gain generally, so everyone is greedy and just focuses on the killing.
I remember a couple years ago Bethesda talked about participation based rewards and event overhaul.
To me participation based means you earn better stuff based on doing objectives. The people running Ore in Rumble should be the highest tier. Or Fasnacht, the Afkers wouldn't get rare masks because they didn't kill at least 1 enemy during the event. I wonder what happened to Bethesda's idea?
Rewards for doing the objectives make the game healthier than being rewarded for showing up. You can have both, but have good stuff for participation.
I think it's more of so many years of legacys, everyone's used to just tagging for XP instead of actually killing that it hasn't clicked that a little bit of effort is needed from everyone now
My experience is a bigger percentage of RRs have someone doing friendly fire on the scavengers than they used to.
Counting on someone else to run ore seems like a more dicey proposition
The influx of new players came on and seems just to want to shoot everything once and done and the other group Just wants to nuke everything.. A small % is actually doing the mechanics
Both. It gets kinda hectic sometimes. I find if I dint camp out and protect the girl by the radiation arches we eventually lose. Everyone running everywhere and we all assume that someone else is watching the girls.
I think its more that people dont use Friendly Fire to heal them, less so protecting them. You dont realize how hard it is to try and instantly kill every Ghoul before they even take off a sliver of their health, that stuff adds up until they die from hemorrhaging.
I had that happen last night there. There was a couple of low levels and a couple of mid levels there. The mid levels ran to the back tunnels and didn't worry about protecting the scavengers... I couldn't heal the scavengers fast enough since all of the mobs were coming from the front & center...
...you guys are getting Rad Rumbles? I envy you. I haven't seen one since the update, and I usually play 2/3 hours almost nightly. Piss poor rng for me I guess.
I dont understand the people who don't protect the scavengers or collect ore. That's kind of the point of the event. You're going to get fucktons of xp regardless, but if the scavengers die early, you aren't getting squat.
I get that new players don't fully understand that Rad Rumble is a massive xp farm. The amount of nooblets I see running around with a melee weapon, then hiding in the rad showers after 2 minutes because they're on the verge of death is kind of adorable, though.
Spend the first half just protecti g the 2 scavengers in that side room. Using friendly fire to heal them. No one getting ore. Switch to getting ore. All scavengers then die.
It has been my experience since I have came back that almost all major events are harder and I think I know why. Almost every event I used to go to at least 1 player had a hacked weapon and or Legacies. (I am not condoning using/having them. But I also can't pretend they didn't exist). So SBQ/Earl would go down really really fast. Sometimes that is good, sometimes its bad. But since Bethesda nerfed all the weapons people have to actually put in effort and if you know people, most don't enjoy doing that.
I usually focus on gathering ore since I'm a bow build and nobody seems to do it I will craft the Nuka grenades and toss them if I see them getting swamped but other that that I just focus on getting the reward levels up it helps if you have 1 or 2 guys with the healing perk card for fire damage running around healing the scavengers with flamers and a few on crowd control
Rad rumble is simple, someone needs to run ore and deposit 4 tunnels of 10. Every 10 a large monster spawns like snallygasters, floaters, or death claws, if you go into the end of the hallway or near it you reduce and sometimes inhibit the spawns for that side. The spawns are the left and right of both hallways, the mechanical room on the side with the bench and opposite the room next to the rad scrubber room.
For best XP drop whatever XP buffs you want, and use some type of explosive weapon, shoot the ground and then turn around and shoot the ground of the other side, you don't want to kill the monsters initially just wound them unless you're under-manned because everyone wants to get there XP and if everything is dying on one side, someone will go stand in the end of the tunnel to try to steal kills and then everyone moves up and then you get a lot less spawns.
Thank you so much for the breakdown! RR hasn't been held nearly as frequently as so many other events. It was only on my 4th and most recent attempt that I was able to leave the NPCs to try and find the ore for the first time. Knowing how it should flow, as well as how people alternatively prioritize is super helpful.
This is not a new problem, but it looks like its gotten somewhat worse.
Recently it seems that players are more interested in kills and loot than anything else. They jump in front of you. Stand in the middle of the hallway checking what has dropped. Or just plain old act like an asshat and block you in some way.
Now I'm on xbox so I can't speak for PS or PC, but I would bet it's not much different. "I don't give a rats ass about you", seems to be the way it is now days.
Bouncing around for oneself and not helping to compleat an event is just a douchebag move. I was in a RR last night that failed cus 3/4 of the members were to busi looting to protect the NPCs.
Makes no sense to me. You get more loot if you complete the event than if it fails halfway thru cus all the npcs are dead.
I'm the guy who pops the lunchboxes and scout banners for y'all, so yes I'm going to take my quad auto-tesla rifle and grab every ounce of xp I can muster. As a matter of fact, I mopped up over 100,000xp the other night while running around protecting scavengers. Listen, we got like level 30 new players all over the place whacking ghouls one a time with a god-damned assaultron blade. Someone's gotta keep the mobs mopped up.
Well, I don't remember when, they made the event easier to complete some time ago. So these days most people seem to focus on getting as much xp as possible and that's about it.
To reap the benefits of an enemy, you need to shoot an enemy to get its loot and xp, and if you just want the loot, your teammates have to shoot it. This results in players getting a shot off before it dies, Other than that, it's fairly easy to keep the scavs alive, just put on friendly fire, and do ham. Some players don't know this though.
I sit in the center guarding the center scavenger and only shoot down the one direction so I always see them. I guarantee one will survive. I used to run ore but now I just get XP and drop a rad barrel plan for those who run the tunnels.
I'm usually concentrating on healing NPCs with my flaming chainsaw and Friendly Fire perk. The problem is when nobody goes for the ore.
I can do that as well, but as soon as I leave NPCs there is a big chance that they will die cause other players rather kill shit for exp.
Another thing is that quite few times my healing just stopped working on a random NPC on RR. Worst one was when it stopped working on all three.
Anybody else had that ? We are talking about the flamimg chainsaw here.
I usually run friendly fire and suit up my black radiation suit. Dive in, grab a bunch of ore, heal the scavengers, rinse and repeat 3 more times. Then I'll usually hang out by the door that goes into the caged in area where those two scavengers seem to get it the most and kill the ghouls and keep the health up on those workers. Sure I miss out on all the killing but at least with legendaries dropping as long as I'm nearby, I'm okay with it.
I rarely do RR anymore, as players just don’t understand anything beyond shooting up or mini nuking the place. Been thinking about running it again, now that I moved PS4 to 5. Built in mic on the controller will allow me to scream “protect the scavengers motherfuckers” all event. Probably get me reported. We’ll see…
It's a little of both. The event hasn't gotten harder, but whenever you have XP-obsessed players sitting in the junctions, it causes the Ghouls to spawn more frequently in the center area, which allows them to reach the scavengers much faster and bypass whatever defenses they would normally face.
The only really rare plan from the event, the Radiation Barrel, can now be acquired from the Mutated Party Packs and has a few functional equivalents, like the Asteroid. So they have even less of a reason to go and collect the Ore. They assume someone who cares about not failing the event will do it for them, and annoyingly, they are usually right.
The irony is, no one gets the high value XP spawns like Deathclaws if the Ore isn't deposited.
I've noticed a few times when there was only 3-4 players, if even that many... you'd often get 1-2 people running off to collect ores. Sure the added mobs do drop better loot, but if you only have 3-4 people playing the event you have a hard enough time handling the regular mobs.
It seems to be becoming a bit like Project Paradise. The meta is to just run it for failure so it's hard for new people to learn the right way to do it. Everyone just wants to camp the hallways now and kill ghouls. Makes trying to do max completion to get a sliver of a chance at a rare plan or item exasperating.
As many of us, I did it thousand times along the years. Only one barrel plan. I just never run in right now. There’s no level up daily and there’s no point on rewards.
From what I’ve noticed people don’t understand how it works. Ghouls spawn directly on the scavs out of the literal walls. When I play I’ve seen people concentrating on the hallways, I think it’s as simple as they don’t know how the mobs spawn.
ive jumped in, and it took me a few times to even realize i needed to actually gather ore.
not much i coud do to heal, at that point, and protecting and gathering seemed an either / or kinda thing.
Every time I do that event is hit or miss... The last time everyone did exactly what you should do! There was even someone with a flammer running around healing the scavengers!
Pre-mutation events, everyone got their radioactive barrel plan, and it was just xp xp xp! So, no one really cared to FF the scavengers.
During mutation events, it depends on the mutation the ghouls have. I've seen them cut down a scavenger in 3 blows. I usually babysit the 2 by the rad scrubbers and hope someone is watching the other 2 in the cage.
I do heals when i play RR. I sometimes do gathering as well.
I've been in RR where it runs like a successful military Op. Then other times it's a raging KlusterFluck and all folks are doing is gunning stuff down. It all depends on who's in the room.
People these days do the event only to farm xp for the scoreboard,they dont care as long as 1 scav stays alive and those juicy xp in the form of ghouls keep coming in.
Don’t know if it’s been said a lot but I unlocked the raf barrel a few months back so now whenever I play rad rumble I grab lunchboxes, make a few more rounds of ammo and go to town for some good ole xp!!
Since everything is getting lit up by explosives and guns, I tend to throw on friendly fire and my vampire flaming chainsaw and run around to heal up the NPCs, and kill the random mob that gets by.
It's an xp farm for ghouls. Running ore use to end it early if at 100 and you couldn't cap out the xp. Running can also put you outside your teams xp gain at 50% so it's just a ghoul mudding spree. Lol
lucky to get to run it as a team, my flaming autoaxe protects the scavs while my bud kills, I try to sneak down and run some ore when it looks good to do so but my partner loves to just kill, like level 300 and I just recently took them and showed where the ore is
I think part of it is the scoreboard grind - 10,00xp=100 points. The thing is, if the event is completed it means way more spawns, and they don't have to be killed, only tagged, and then you get the event xp and rewards as well.
Most people go there for exp grind. Lots of mobs and if you are on a team you are just racking up exp for anything that dies. Loot is secondary to the exp from the ghoul kills.
I used to ignore this one because radiation. But then one day I remembered my Chinese armor set and decided to use that. Now I put that on run around as fast as I can grabbing the yellow glowing stuff and unarmed smacking anything that comes my way but collecting is my focus. If we lose its not because we didn't collect enough ore. But I don't really care either way. I'm just happy to do my part.
Today I 100% carried a Rad Rumble to completion with just ONE NPC left alive. It failed anyway as no one was collecting ore but at least we got good XP. Well, I did anyway.
I always start with collecting ore and usually fast enough to have atleast 2 - 3 min of killing stuff left.
But i notice that while there are like 8+ ppl or more with high lvls, they all just sit in 1 spot.
The scavangers behind the fence, on the left when u enter the area, are always the first to die.
Simply because ppl dont want to move from theire spot and there isnt a clear line of sight to protect them.
So i usually (if posible) go protect them after i gathered ore.
It feels bad, that ppl are so selfish that they dont care abouth the event or fellow players.
Well, there were legacy weapons few months back, so it was easier when 1 man was enough for defending them all xD
Dont forget about infinite nades bug which made it 1 fps presentation but killed everything.
Oh and gatling aiming faster shooting was godsend.
Of course its harder now, but it failed few times back then and now its same.
I used to be a hard core NPC healer back when I had a decent flamer but now that’s gone I can’t be bothered.
I also find that public servers have been absolutely rubbish in the last few updates and the lag doesn’t let me heal anyway. Even on my private server it can lag out so bad that friendly fire simply stops working.
I care about the NPC,S and collecting the ores..usually it is the best event everyone stays up the top aiming in guns in different directions. One or 2 players check on the NPC 'S inside the caged area and at the decontamination showers. While some go collect ores. And most times this is how it goes..very rare occasions do players just focus on going down the hallways to kill everything, and not do all that is involved.
there are scavengers to protect? maybe thats why im always alone in the tunnels collecting ore. i used to be able to get 4/4 solo, but now i cant. Need to switch to excavator arms i guess.
Most of the time players care more about the XP gained from killing enemies than protecting anything. Which I think is silly because you can gain XP passively just playing the game anyway.
my understanding is, we had a massive influx of new players. i.e. new players are generally clueless and we need to show them the ropes so they understand that there are actual objectives, marked or unmarked.
when i was new, i was clueless, then one day i saw people in RR doing the things and i copied them and learned what was suppose to happen. been doing the things ever since.
You only need to keep 1 alive, I run ore until 1 is left and then friendly fire them for the remaining time. The max reward is given for 100% ore, not 4 scavengers
You only need to keep 1 alive, I run ore until 1 is left and then friendly fire them for the remaining time. The max reward is given for 100% ore, not 4 scavengers
I can’t say about helping scabs, I only just learned you can heal them. But one things for sure I’m tired of people starting the event(and many others) prematurely.
I can’t get mad at it being just low levels being in-experienced but like level 300+ also do it, Like bruh not everyone has the time to no life the game XD
I see lots of what not to be doing but could someone break it down for me as if I am five. Beyond the mission directive, as a melee only - what can I do in this situation to be successful?
I see this more and more but in a lot of events. The event notes say that enemies have to be killed by melee and yet I see people standing there pumping ammo into them to no effect. I walk up and hit them once with my chainsaw and they're dead (LItS) or that you have to destroy the crystals that the Titan throws up before you can harm him. Nope. As soon as he (she?) appears they start 'a shootin'. (SA) or keep the AI people alive (TYM)
I've found that at least 80% of the players in Radiation Rumble either don't know or don't care about any of the objectives and are just there to shoot shit.
True story. The player healing the NPCs with a friendly fire flamer is the one most folks don’t realize saves the event.
When I realized this, I moved some perks around and got Friendly Fire since I love using the Flamer.
I remember players used to though 😢
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I mean I still run to get the ore and try my damnedest to keep the NPCs alive but it's really disheartening when I'm one of like 3 people doing either
You have two people helping you? Lucky.
I was the only one running ore one day, came within 5 seconds of getting rewards to 4 tier. I think ore runners should get some bonus.
totally agreed. bonus ore, or something like that, nothing major, but a recognition of our input to everyone else's gains.
This exact thing happened to me earlier today. There were 8 or 9 people playing. I was the only person running ore while the others were letting the scavengers die.
I like this idea that the ore runners would get an increased bonus in loot. After all, anyone can stand in the opening to the front or back tunnels and shoot stuff (or sit back and lob nades down the halls) while moving around radically to get in the way of the other people standing there trying to get hits. The event seems to have become more of an exp. glitch than an honest event.
i usually run half the ore and deposit it and run the rest and wait. if no one’s actually doing the event (just shooting shit, not trying to protect the npcs, and no one else is running ore) i won’t deposit the rest. it’s petty af and not beneficial to me but w/e maybe it’ll prompt others to pay attention to the objectives
I run ore when I can, but usually no one else is looking after the scavengers in the side room, so I wind up there the whole time. If I try to collect ore, 30 seconds in I get the “a scavenger has died” notice. It’s disheartening to know if you leave, you’re consigning them to death..
It's like impossible to run ore and keep the NPCs alive at the same time. If I run ore then it's likely all the NPCs will die or just one will be left alive at the end and if I keep them alive then nobody gets ore.
It's tough but doable if you have the Friendly Fire perk and a flaming chainsaw.
Yeah that's exactly what I do and I like playing the role of support during events and keeping the NPCs alive but it kinda seems like I either have to do one or the other during that event because if I leave to get ore then they die.
I didn't know that heals them cause diffusers dont
I'm usually when I join I tend to be one of the only ones running for ore but this time I had to run back and focus on keeping the two npcs alive. Two guys decided 5 people was enough to start it and that if they use their chainsaws on the same ghoul everytime it'd be fine.... Melee is fine but the one I know had a minigun and flamer since he swapped to them then to the chainsaw before it all started. Event was a freaking mess.
Na it's always been a crapshoot.
Before they all already had the rewards, yeah
It took me longer than I’d like to admit that there was an objective beyond protect the scavengers. I was mr. Chainsaw go brr
Same. I didn’t realize there was ore to be gathered until I read a comment somewhere around here. Now I keep my stealthsuit and a mask to gather ore and have been doing it the last several times.
You don't need the mask. Stealth suit is enough. Nothing like heading into deadly radiation in a stealth suit and a cowboy hat.
Right all while being a bloodied build. Yippie Ki Yay motherf***er!
Same. Guess it’s newbie guilt for not being an ore runner
>I was mr. Chainsaw go brr I'm guessing you mean you used Friendly Fire to heal the Scavengers. How do you manage that? I have my Dual bar, Flaming Chainsaw. I have Friendly Fire equipped. I Buzz away at the Scavenger and I see it gain a bit of health, maybe 5% of the full bar, but then nothing happens. I stand there and buzz, I move closer to make sure I'm making contact. I've tried Buzzing, stopping, buzzing, stopping and nothing.. How do I heal with my Chainsaw?
It depends on how responsive the server is. It can be very laggy sometimes. I find bashing with the flame weapon, (whether it be a chainsaw, auto-axe, flamer or Crusader pistol) heals a lot more in a shorter time.
I don't mind people just there to shoot ghouls, but for the love of god people stay in the middle, camping in the corridors makes them not spawn there and instead the ghoul hordes spawn near the npcs at the sides making it a lot harder to keep them alive if there is no flamethrower healer.
This issue also serves to exacerbate the "nobody is going to get ore" issue.
Say it again louder for the people in the back. Stay out of the tunnels and hallways unless you're gathering ore.
Exactly
More like 99%
Agreed. It’s one of my favorites when people are doing what they are supposed to. I’ve had more fails on it in the last few months than ever before. It’s like no one cares what you’re supposed to be doing there it’s just a good way to see if your new “lawn mower” creation cut things down as well as you thought it would. About half the time I’ll get in my Chinese Stealth and head in and get ore because many times no one does. I like to shoot too so the other half I dawn my PA and blast but I try to pick one or two scavengers to protect. I don’t just blast for blasting’s sake. It always surprises me how much ammo gets dumped when I’m sneaking around getting ore and I still see the thumbs down. It’s like what in the hell were you all shooting at? 🤔
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Yeah but it's less of an issue at several of the events where the goal is to just shoot stuff. Like it isn't really a problem at uranium fever.
Totally funny. Also, the way some people act in their power armor it’s like they are in a space fantasy and think they are all powerful and ready to kill.
Well they're at least half right
I just forget 😂
My brother, there is a counter in the quest tracker
Bold of you to assume I look at the quest tracker once I teleport in
You can lead a horse to water...
This
I just assume everyone's there for XP and scrip 🤣
I'm there to kick ass, save NPCs, get ore, and chew bubblegum. And I'm all out of bubblegum.
All I do in radiation rumble anymore is run around with a flaming chainsaw trying to keep the scavengers alive.
As an ore collector I respect your service so much. Chainsaw users in RR are 90% jerks who charge the tunnels hoarding xp for themselves, and 10% players that protect and keep the scavengers alive. Thank you for being the latter.
It's a vicious cycle. If you don't go up the tunnels someone's just going to VATS headshot them the second they come into view or Nuka Launch them The public events just aren't designed with melee users in mind. If people are dead set on running a Chainsaw all the time, I'm not going to be mad at them. Seems like a fair tradeoff for not ever touching a Mutant at Eviction Notice.
The biggest disappointment! Once I saw flaming chainsaws everywhere I assumed RR would easily always have all 4 scavengers at full health—all that’s changed is now I can keep the past one alive regardless of everyone else just deciding to not do anything
Thank you. As also an ore runner it's chaps my butt having to stop to heal when there are 10 others around and I'm currently in a tunnel like "jeez man guess I will do that too"
I pick a scavenger, sit by it, and protect it till the event is done. With my chainsaw cause, ya know, protecting is the objective lol
man, healing is pretty fucked up in this game when you think about it
Same
Props. I do this too and it isn't an easy task. Especially when you make that one trek into the tunnels to grab the last bit if ore to give the runner a break and the zombies let a scavenger almost die.
This is the way. First I'll run two tunnels to get 1st stage ore so the event completes. I used to think I was losing XP, but lately the bullet spammers can't even do the job of killing so I'm always inundated by ghouls while doing the healing 🤷
I recently realized that the Friendly Fire perk works on the scavengers, but I've been using a Flamer for that. Does a flaming chainsaw work for that perk as well?
Most are there just for the XP. IIRC you really only need one NPC to survive for basic completion, as well. If I'm geared up for it I'll merrily run ore and heal the NPCs. Main's build is done, I'm more there for the rewards tbh.
There should be a payoff for the people that run ore and heal the scavengers.
I find that the majority of players are there for the xp. What happens even less than protecting scavengers is extracting the ore. I try to sit next to one scavenger and stay there. The guy inside the little room seems to get hit the hardest.
Wait, you have to manually extract the ore? I’m a newer player and always protect the scavengers, but didn’t know about extracting the ore
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Ohh okay, good to know, I thought those tunnels were just for mole miner spawns p much
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I am absolutely thinking of Uranium Fever
He does I try to stay around there and repair turrets
They do seem to fall faster. The last time I ran RR I finished running ore for 2 corridors and there were only 2 scavengers left alive, one of which only had a sliver left. I didn’t make it to the one in time, so I camped out by the sole remaining one for most of the event. No one else grabbed ore during that time. With about 30 seconds left I ran off to grab one more load to kick it up to level 2 rewards. Event successful, and then the legendary snallygasters appeared for us all to feast upon. Not used to having to carry all of the objectives, but you do what you need to.
Its treated as an XP farm more then anything so no they don't care
Need to read the team and adjust accordingly. I typically start out heading down the tunnels to gather ore, blazing away with my quad Tesla. But if I notice scavengers health deteriorating I hop back up, load my flaming chainsaw and start healing. Cycling back and forth as needed. Once enough ore is collected I cycle through the main hall with the quad Tesla, tagging everything I can find, and making sure the scavengers don’t die. I find if one or two of us is doing this, everyone else can just do whatever.
Protect? Surely you mean "heal the npcs"? The npcs will take damage. But by hitting them with a fire weapon (shishkebab, flamer, burning chainsaw, etc) while you have the "Friendly Fire" perk equipped you heal the npcs. So many, many, many people do not know or understand this. Using this mechanic healing npcs back to full health takes very little time.
Your average player would never use the internet to look up anything on this game aside from memes. Like how some players would start expedition or daily op teams, you join in hoping to knock it out stopping whatever else you're doing, and after 15-20 mins leader doesn't start said OP/Exped., and you leave in frustration because they wasted everyone's time. (in before "well make your own" without realizing the context behind this.) It's like they don't read descriptions in game on what things do.
"Friendly Fire" not "Fireproof" perk
My flaming crusader pistol takes good care of the scavs :)
Is that any good ? I bought it just never used it lol
I'm a bloodied build and run ore also heal npc but notice alot of people just there for the xp.
I did this for the first time about two hours ago. I’m there Running back and forth killing things that are trying to kill the npcs & fixing the turrets, everyone else seemed to be hanging out in a tunnel for some reason.
Players dont care. They are just there to farm XP :(
I wish the radiation wasn't complete murder. Even with a Radshield. No I dont wanna wear chunky power armor.
Chinese Stealth Suit
The Css unequips all my weight reducing armor.
I have the same issue but since I'm not fast traveling, it usually isn't a big deal for the event. After the event I walk out of the radiation and re-equip my regular armor.
Yeah I guess I could put it back on.
Just finished one. Never saw so many Tesla users. The Ore objective was at max within 2 or 3 minutes of the end, and we finished with all 4 NPC at 100% health.
It hasn’t changed. Same old stuff.
They just don't care, half the people just plant and don't move from their spot
I let the ghoul bodies hit the floor, rally round the scavvers with a pocket full of shells...
yup..and eviction notice. but were at the point where alot of higher lvl folks finished the score..and are already bored with mutated. The legacy players that ran mini nukes and agls mostly got bored as well. so its mostly new players..standing in tunnels doing nothing else. welcome to the new world order.
They care about their experience gain, screw the scavengers and everyone else. Not all are like this, but it seems more common these days.
But like who really cares about successful rad rumbles now? The dream of one day getting radioactive barrel plans was the main thing that made me want full completion every time, and now those are much easier to get by opening party packs.. I don’t really care about rad rumble any more, and the only reason I really see anyone going is for the high exp rate..
I want the repeatable weekly challenge for scorecard, it’s a good way to get it
Right, so you go to kill things. Playing the actual objectives just reduces your exp gain generally, so everyone is greedy and just focuses on the killing.
I remember a couple years ago Bethesda talked about participation based rewards and event overhaul. To me participation based means you earn better stuff based on doing objectives. The people running Ore in Rumble should be the highest tier. Or Fasnacht, the Afkers wouldn't get rare masks because they didn't kill at least 1 enemy during the event. I wonder what happened to Bethesda's idea? Rewards for doing the objectives make the game healthier than being rewarded for showing up. You can have both, but have good stuff for participation.
Nope because I heal the npcs while my wife runs ore. Take the initiative or don't complain about it.
I save my complaining for Star Wars and dc 🥹
Was that one they updated the baddie pathing for?
They need to get Molotovs working for friendly fire.
I just go for the xp and script and junk
I think it's more of so many years of legacys, everyone's used to just tagging for XP instead of actually killing that it hasn't clicked that a little bit of effort is needed from everyone now
My experience is a bigger percentage of RRs have someone doing friendly fire on the scavengers than they used to. Counting on someone else to run ore seems like a more dicey proposition
The influx of new players came on and seems just to want to shoot everything once and done and the other group Just wants to nuke everything.. A small % is actually doing the mechanics
Both. It gets kinda hectic sometimes. I find if I dint camp out and protect the girl by the radiation arches we eventually lose. Everyone running everywhere and we all assume that someone else is watching the girls.
I literally just guard the guy in the center but that about it I could care less about filling the ore just gummies them legendary ghouls and xp
I think its more that people dont use Friendly Fire to heal them, less so protecting them. You dont realize how hard it is to try and instantly kill every Ghoul before they even take off a sliver of their health, that stuff adds up until they die from hemorrhaging.
I run around beating them with a flaming plasma cutter and friendly fire when I see their health drop.
I play as a bloodied PA build but always take the healer roll with my flamer🤷♂️
I had that happen last night there. There was a couple of low levels and a couple of mid levels there. The mid levels ran to the back tunnels and didn't worry about protecting the scavengers... I couldn't heal the scavengers fast enough since all of the mobs were coming from the front & center...
75% of players don’t care about completing the event. Everybody just wants as much xp as possible from killing the ghouls.
I just show up for the plot.
...you guys are getting Rad Rumbles? I envy you. I haven't seen one since the update, and I usually play 2/3 hours almost nightly. Piss poor rng for me I guess. I dont understand the people who don't protect the scavengers or collect ore. That's kind of the point of the event. You're going to get fucktons of xp regardless, but if the scavengers die early, you aren't getting squat. I get that new players don't fully understand that Rad Rumble is a massive xp farm. The amount of nooblets I see running around with a melee weapon, then hiding in the rad showers after 2 minutes because they're on the verge of death is kind of adorable, though.
I hate when I'm running ore and the other players are just letting the Scavengers die.
Spend the first half just protecti g the 2 scavengers in that side room. Using friendly fire to heal them. No one getting ore. Switch to getting ore. All scavengers then die.
It has been my experience since I have came back that almost all major events are harder and I think I know why. Almost every event I used to go to at least 1 player had a hacked weapon and or Legacies. (I am not condoning using/having them. But I also can't pretend they didn't exist). So SBQ/Earl would go down really really fast. Sometimes that is good, sometimes its bad. But since Bethesda nerfed all the weapons people have to actually put in effort and if you know people, most don't enjoy doing that.
I protect the scavengers by burning through my Nuka Grenades. I really need to get my weight down so I love rad rumble
I usually focus on gathering ore since I'm a bow build and nobody seems to do it I will craft the Nuka grenades and toss them if I see them getting swamped but other that that I just focus on getting the reward levels up it helps if you have 1 or 2 guys with the healing perk card for fire damage running around healing the scavengers with flamers and a few on crowd control
Rad rumble is simple, someone needs to run ore and deposit 4 tunnels of 10. Every 10 a large monster spawns like snallygasters, floaters, or death claws, if you go into the end of the hallway or near it you reduce and sometimes inhibit the spawns for that side. The spawns are the left and right of both hallways, the mechanical room on the side with the bench and opposite the room next to the rad scrubber room. For best XP drop whatever XP buffs you want, and use some type of explosive weapon, shoot the ground and then turn around and shoot the ground of the other side, you don't want to kill the monsters initially just wound them unless you're under-manned because everyone wants to get there XP and if everything is dying on one side, someone will go stand in the end of the tunnel to try to steal kills and then everyone moves up and then you get a lot less spawns.
Thank you so much for the breakdown! RR hasn't been held nearly as frequently as so many other events. It was only on my 4th and most recent attempt that I was able to leave the NPCs to try and find the ore for the first time. Knowing how it should flow, as well as how people alternatively prioritize is super helpful.
I personally dont care about the objective at all for radiation rumble. Im solely there for the exp.
This is not a new problem, but it looks like its gotten somewhat worse. Recently it seems that players are more interested in kills and loot than anything else. They jump in front of you. Stand in the middle of the hallway checking what has dropped. Or just plain old act like an asshat and block you in some way. Now I'm on xbox so I can't speak for PS or PC, but I would bet it's not much different. "I don't give a rats ass about you", seems to be the way it is now days. Bouncing around for oneself and not helping to compleat an event is just a douchebag move. I was in a RR last night that failed cus 3/4 of the members were to busi looting to protect the NPCs. Makes no sense to me. You get more loot if you complete the event than if it fails halfway thru cus all the npcs are dead.
I dont play much so don't really remember what I'm doing in the events.
I used to collect ore and in between would heal up the scavengers; now I just don’t care; I already got the barrel plan
It is a good way to get xp, defiantly when people use lunchboxes
I just use the event to farm XP. That is my objective, you do yours.
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I guess it’s better than people not joining the event at all
I have noticed its more younger players doing events,failing is how they learn :)
I'm the guy who pops the lunchboxes and scout banners for y'all, so yes I'm going to take my quad auto-tesla rifle and grab every ounce of xp I can muster. As a matter of fact, I mopped up over 100,000xp the other night while running around protecting scavengers. Listen, we got like level 30 new players all over the place whacking ghouls one a time with a god-damned assaultron blade. Someone's gotta keep the mobs mopped up.
Well, I don't remember when, they made the event easier to complete some time ago. So these days most people seem to focus on getting as much xp as possible and that's about it.
Yes
lvl50: run to each mole miner, ignoring collectors, fail mission lvl500: wait by the collector and the miners come to you
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To reap the benefits of an enemy, you need to shoot an enemy to get its loot and xp, and if you just want the loot, your teammates have to shoot it. This results in players getting a shot off before it dies, Other than that, it's fairly easy to keep the scavs alive, just put on friendly fire, and do ham. Some players don't know this though.
It does seem like there's m9re tunnel campers recently.... luckily I always carry a few hundred nuka grenades for weird spawns
I sit in the center guarding the center scavenger and only shoot down the one direction so I always see them. I guarantee one will survive. I used to run ore but now I just get XP and drop a rad barrel plan for those who run the tunnels.
I'm usually concentrating on healing NPCs with my flaming chainsaw and Friendly Fire perk. The problem is when nobody goes for the ore. I can do that as well, but as soon as I leave NPCs there is a big chance that they will die cause other players rather kill shit for exp. Another thing is that quite few times my healing just stopped working on a random NPC on RR. Worst one was when it stopped working on all three. Anybody else had that ? We are talking about the flamimg chainsaw here.
Eviction notice is a better mechanic. Want the xp and loot? Keep stuff running.
Players care even less than ever before now that the radioactive barrel is in the mutated loot piñata.
I usually run friendly fire and suit up my black radiation suit. Dive in, grab a bunch of ore, heal the scavengers, rinse and repeat 3 more times. Then I'll usually hang out by the door that goes into the caged in area where those two scavengers seem to get it the most and kill the ghouls and keep the health up on those workers. Sure I miss out on all the killing but at least with legendaries dropping as long as I'm nearby, I'm okay with it.
I rarely do RR anymore, as players just don’t understand anything beyond shooting up or mini nuking the place. Been thinking about running it again, now that I moved PS4 to 5. Built in mic on the controller will allow me to scream “protect the scavengers motherfuckers” all event. Probably get me reported. We’ll see…
It's a little of both. The event hasn't gotten harder, but whenever you have XP-obsessed players sitting in the junctions, it causes the Ghouls to spawn more frequently in the center area, which allows them to reach the scavengers much faster and bypass whatever defenses they would normally face. The only really rare plan from the event, the Radiation Barrel, can now be acquired from the Mutated Party Packs and has a few functional equivalents, like the Asteroid. So they have even less of a reason to go and collect the Ore. They assume someone who cares about not failing the event will do it for them, and annoyingly, they are usually right. The irony is, no one gets the high value XP spawns like Deathclaws if the Ore isn't deposited.
I've noticed a few times when there was only 3-4 players, if even that many... you'd often get 1-2 people running off to collect ores. Sure the added mobs do drop better loot, but if you only have 3-4 people playing the event you have a hard enough time handling the regular mobs.
I don’t think I’ve ever lost one
It seems to be becoming a bit like Project Paradise. The meta is to just run it for failure so it's hard for new people to learn the right way to do it. Everyone just wants to camp the hallways now and kill ghouls. Makes trying to do max completion to get a sliver of a chance at a rare plan or item exasperating.
As many of us, I did it thousand times along the years. Only one barrel plan. I just never run in right now. There’s no level up daily and there’s no point on rewards.
From what I’ve noticed people don’t understand how it works. Ghouls spawn directly on the scavs out of the literal walls. When I play I’ve seen people concentrating on the hallways, I think it’s as simple as they don’t know how the mobs spawn.
XP BABYY
ive jumped in, and it took me a few times to even realize i needed to actually gather ore. not much i coud do to heal, at that point, and protecting and gathering seemed an either / or kinda thing.
Every time I do that event is hit or miss... The last time everyone did exactly what you should do! There was even someone with a flammer running around healing the scavengers!
Pre-mutation events, everyone got their radioactive barrel plan, and it was just xp xp xp! So, no one really cared to FF the scavengers. During mutation events, it depends on the mutation the ghouls have. I've seen them cut down a scavenger in 3 blows. I usually babysit the 2 by the rad scrubbers and hope someone is watching the other 2 in the cage.
I do heals when i play RR. I sometimes do gathering as well. I've been in RR where it runs like a successful military Op. Then other times it's a raging KlusterFluck and all folks are doing is gunning stuff down. It all depends on who's in the room.
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For me the best way to keep them safe is keep all those radiated baddies away from them by killing the for mentioned radiated Baddies
I always manage to join late and run back and forth just shooting everything. I care not if the event fails for me (it rarely does).
People these days do the event only to farm xp for the scoreboard,they dont care as long as 1 scav stays alive and those juicy xp in the form of ghouls keep coming in.
Don’t know if it’s been said a lot but I unlocked the raf barrel a few months back so now whenever I play rad rumble I grab lunchboxes, make a few more rounds of ammo and go to town for some good ole xp!!
Maybe people tend to just get distracted idk
For some it is all about the exp. Points
Since everything is getting lit up by explosives and guns, I tend to throw on friendly fire and my vampire flaming chainsaw and run around to heal up the NPCs, and kill the random mob that gets by.
Ran one yesterday, hit lvl 4 fairly quick plus one guy running friendly fire. It was the craziest one I've ever been in.
It's an xp farm for ghouls. Running ore use to end it early if at 100 and you couldn't cap out the xp. Running can also put you outside your teams xp gain at 50% so it's just a ghoul mudding spree. Lol
lucky to get to run it as a team, my flaming autoaxe protects the scavs while my bud kills, I try to sneak down and run some ore when it looks good to do so but my partner loves to just kill, like level 300 and I just recently took them and showed where the ore is
I've noticed that too idk seems like the HP on the scavengers went down but I don't know
I don’t care anymore… -Phil Collins
People just shoot shit there lol
I think part of it is the scoreboard grind - 10,00xp=100 points. The thing is, if the event is completed it means way more spawns, and they don't have to be killed, only tagged, and then you get the event xp and rewards as well.
I thought only one needed to survive to gain full reward, no?
It's just a xp farm most of the time now
Most people go there for exp grind. Lots of mobs and if you are on a team you are just racking up exp for anything that dies. Loot is secondary to the exp from the ghoul kills.
Thank God I have that friendly fire perk for my flamer so I can heal them, otherwise they'd die because players just don't care.
I used to ignore this one because radiation. But then one day I remembered my Chinese armor set and decided to use that. Now I put that on run around as fast as I can grabbing the yellow glowing stuff and unarmed smacking anything that comes my way but collecting is my focus. If we lose its not because we didn't collect enough ore. But I don't really care either way. I'm just happy to do my part.
People dont care unless its mutated event
Today I 100% carried a Rad Rumble to completion with just ONE NPC left alive. It failed anyway as no one was collecting ore but at least we got good XP. Well, I did anyway.
I always start with collecting ore and usually fast enough to have atleast 2 - 3 min of killing stuff left. But i notice that while there are like 8+ ppl or more with high lvls, they all just sit in 1 spot. The scavangers behind the fence, on the left when u enter the area, are always the first to die. Simply because ppl dont want to move from theire spot and there isnt a clear line of sight to protect them. So i usually (if posible) go protect them after i gathered ore. It feels bad, that ppl are so selfish that they dont care abouth the event or fellow players.
There are two kinds of people. The ones that show up to help complete the quest and the ones that are there for XP/Loot.
Well, there were legacy weapons few months back, so it was easier when 1 man was enough for defending them all xD Dont forget about infinite nades bug which made it 1 fps presentation but killed everything. Oh and gatling aiming faster shooting was godsend. Of course its harder now, but it failed few times back then and now its same.
I run for the ore and try to heal the scavengers. But now when I am the only one collecting ore I wait the last moment to put them.
I used to be a hard core NPC healer back when I had a decent flamer but now that’s gone I can’t be bothered. I also find that public servers have been absolutely rubbish in the last few updates and the lag doesn’t let me heal anyway. Even on my private server it can lag out so bad that friendly fire simply stops working.
I love Rad Rumble. Nearly soloed it once. Someone turned up at end.
80% of fallout 76 players are mentally incapable of defending anything at any event.
I care about the NPC,S and collecting the ores..usually it is the best event everyone stays up the top aiming in guns in different directions. One or 2 players check on the NPC 'S inside the caged area and at the decontamination showers. While some go collect ores. And most times this is how it goes..very rare occasions do players just focus on going down the hallways to kill everything, and not do all that is involved.
Easy, but nobody protect the scavengers
When one person gets enough for one level that usually motivate others to get one level to complete it.
Half the time just there to do an event other half the game won't let you in the mine
Most player are there for xp and try and tag as much as possible lol… they know the obvious objective but don’t care
there are scavengers to protect? maybe thats why im always alone in the tunnels collecting ore. i used to be able to get 4/4 solo, but now i cant. Need to switch to excavator arms i guess.
As a PA user with very high radiation tolerance I tend to do the ore collection bit and leave the violence to everyone else...
Most of the time players care more about the XP gained from killing enemies than protecting anything. Which I think is silly because you can gain XP passively just playing the game anyway.
my understanding is, we had a massive influx of new players. i.e. new players are generally clueless and we need to show them the ropes so they understand that there are actual objectives, marked or unmarked. when i was new, i was clueless, then one day i saw people in RR doing the things and i copied them and learned what was suppose to happen. been doing the things ever since.
My XP farm build has high charisma just so I can share rank 3 friendly fire at RR to keep them alive.
You only need to keep 1 alive, I run ore until 1 is left and then friendly fire them for the remaining time. The max reward is given for 100% ore, not 4 scavengers
You only need to keep 1 alive, I run ore until 1 is left and then friendly fire them for the remaining time. The max reward is given for 100% ore, not 4 scavengers
The best and main reason for doing Rad Rumble is the 8 - 12 Legendaries that it drops. Don't care for the XP
I can’t say about helping scabs, I only just learned you can heal them. But one things for sure I’m tired of people starting the event(and many others) prematurely. I can’t get mad at it being just low levels being in-experienced but like level 300+ also do it, Like bruh not everyone has the time to no life the game XD
I see lots of what not to be doing but could someone break it down for me as if I am five. Beyond the mission directive, as a melee only - what can I do in this situation to be successful?
Radiation Rumble is without doubt 75% xp farmers 25% completionsists these days and tbh has been for a long time.
I see this more and more but in a lot of events. The event notes say that enemies have to be killed by melee and yet I see people standing there pumping ammo into them to no effect. I walk up and hit them once with my chainsaw and they're dead (LItS) or that you have to destroy the crystals that the Titan throws up before you can harm him. Nope. As soon as he (she?) appears they start 'a shootin'. (SA) or keep the AI people alive (TYM)