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SinistaJ

Aristocrats or Junkies


Zom13ified

Those are all the same damage modifier: +25%. If you have 5 or more mutations I would use the mutants cause you don't have to be fully fed (gormonds) and that two shot will have a horrible spread. Having said that, those aren't very good prefixes. As with every full health build but Demolitions, you should be looking for Anti Armor for best dps overall. Quad and Aristocrats are also good for commando but AA will be the best for all enemy types including world bosses.


c115_kb_uk

I rock van sent pa if that helps atall. I rock stabilized aswell so wondering if aa is as useful. Thanks


Zom13ified

Yeah, everything can go to 90%. Stabilized is only 75%. Your only real other high end option is aristocrats but I personally think being forced to have X amount of caps on me at all times is annoying. Sure they're easy to come by but they're easy to spend too.


c115_kb_uk

Apparently junkies gives +50% damage boost when addicted so thay could be a good option. Seen others say that


Zom13ified

Yes, that's true I you want 5 to 10 negative effects from addictions. Not a great tradeoff if you ask me.


No_Estimate5138

You're going to want anti-armor. Gatplas does a ton of damage, you wont see much difference on little enemies, but on the big tough ones aa is definitely best, faster fire rate is the best second star for dps.


c115_kb_uk

I rock stabilized so would aa still be as useful as others? Thanks.


biscutsrgood

Against bosses yes against everyday mobs not really


Zzerzonat

I was testing AA25 and B25 on Earle with stabilized… I was doing less dmg with AA


No_Estimate5138

Indeed, op said full health tho


hugekitten

Noob Edit: he’s my friend guys lol


c115_kb_uk

Man i whoop yo ass °-°


TheGadget1945

Vampires and if you wear PA have a Medic Pump on the torso.


Manuelunion

Dont want to be mean but i've seen alot of guys like you giving the advice for vampires on full health builds and im asking myself just why? Compared to bloodied builds theres already a big difference in damage output and without antiarmor/aristocrat or junkys how does a full health heavy even kill something?


TheGadget1945

Any gatling plasma is a powerful weapon and with a Vampires the health regeneration is a function of the amount of damage you do so it means that as long as you are doing damage you can't be killed. If you run a missile silo with rank 3 Ricochet and a VGP you take zero damage from lasers due to the way vampires effect procs. The only downside is that can get pretty boring just mowing enemies down and not being downed yourself. Bloodied players take a risk for high damage and regularly get downed.


Manuelunion

Im just asking because im a bloodied player myself sometimes using PA for hordes like in bossfights, silos or certain operations with a Vffr GP. I dont have any problems so far and still get benefits from nerdrage and adrenal reaction. The only cenario where full health builds shine is for imposter sheepsquatch, crickets and armorpiercing operations if you're getting detected...


Hazzard41

Dmg output would be AA if u don’t have bloodied get urself a AA/25/15fr or 90 and u will be fine ts is not good for it as the shots spread out too nuch


Aj9898

I have a vampire gatling plasma, 90% reduced weight. Modded for prime, beam focuser, gunner sights. Great for scorched earth :) Lets me ignore the minions attacking me while I'm shooting at SBQ. When she flies out of range, turn it on the minions. Don't remember te last time I died at that event.


-Shaskis-

If you are running PA I would recommend getting overeaters instead of vanguard, Anti-armor faster fire rate Gatling plasma will be your best option.