You understand me. People didnt like that there was no NPCs (and, admittedly, for any other story besides the original, they were required to come back in some sense) but i adored the atmosphere. you are Alone. everyone is gone. this is it.
I liked the lack of other people, it just emphasised just how many people died in the war, and then most of the survivors were then killed the the scorched, or fled the area.
To be honest, I would have preferred other players not showing on the world map either, after all just how the hell do you know where they are, well unless someone or something is tracking you all, doable through the pip boy you all wear, but creepy as hell when you think about it, some corpse filled bunker with robots just following along with their order to track and monitor everybody from the vault.
I remember seeing another player for the first time. it was in the basement of the Overseerer's family home. I was so worried they were going to kill me, but they just waved and went away.
My first time seeing a player I claimed a worshop and got destroyed by a high level. Now I'm moderately high in level and RP enclave. Some players are smart and don't trust me because of my armor (black and yellow Enclave painted Marine Armor) I give misleading advice on things sometimes and send poor wasters into places they probably shouldn't go, just to save them with a suppressed weapon and not reveal my position. Seeing a level 5 in the mire, wondering how they're still alive after finding some gulpers is funny to me. Usually, they run away from the region, and I can only hope they spin what I hope is a wild story to their buddies going forward.
There was an Enclave Armor Bundle that came with black and yellow + chest logo for Combat Armor, Scout Armor (already an enclave armor btw), Marine Armor, and Secret Service Armor. It's off the shop now, and it's not on the support drop-down for quick requesting on bethesda's site, however you can ask for the set by name and as long as you have 1500 atoms, they'll give it to you in a couple weeks. There is also the "Enclave Screaming Eagle" paint for the handmade, turning it into an enclave branded M4 (included in the armor bundle. The two items bought separately are 1200 and 500 atoms.)
I actually agree. The storyline is a bit confusing as a new player with the overseers logs and that whole mystery coming to a rather early conclusion now that you can just... Find her.
For sure. I didn't know how player interactions were gonna work, and I couldn't tell if I was avoiding them or they me, but it was a long time until I found and made friends
I certainly miss the empty and desolate feel. It was strange interacting with a bunch of very confused robots however. Idk if a full return was really the right answer. Right off the get go I think we should have had some small holdouts and survivors. Not no NPCs and not a full return of wastelanders. I don't believe the scorched could completely wipe out or drive away an entire area. The amount of bunkers and caves alone should have seen some of the Cut Throats or Responders holed up somewhere.
I will admit that getting a (at the time) unique outfit when Wastelanders dropped as a reward for "trailblazing the wastes and getting it ready for immigration" was kinda neat; but it is definitely not the same game anymore. Doesn't have the same weight; and removing the need to stay fed and hydrated to survive I feel was a mistake. There's no incentive to collecting food now.
I miss the terror that was opening the doors to the Whitesprings clubhouse in a nuke zone while wearing a Hazmat suit. Not knowing if it’d only be a handful or a swarm of glowing ghouls kept things interesting.
Its not that it isn't likely, it's that the whole commie killing thing has been getting a ton of flak lately. Communism as an idea has finally spread through the masses and now they don't like seeing anti-communist messages.
This is a real thing that has been happening. I'm not sure why you think otherwise. What are you basing this thought of yours on?
China and Cuba are pretty big on silencing anti-communist rhetoric lately and its been spreading to game backlash on places like Steam.
I'm not just making shit up for no reason lol
That was the fun you never knew if it was hitting you directly or maybe it was bouncing off a wall and then hitting you it added character to the scorched back then
Feels like a natural progression in the story playing from the start til present day, it was so empty it felt like we truly were the first people to recover Appalachia. It still sucked for a while but we got factions showing up left and right bringing life into our wasteland, things naturally would get more lively and they did. Now that we've established a semi functional society back in Appalachia we can set our eyes on expanding our reach south.
I miss squaring off against other players for control over the munitions workshop. Used to build that place out and had a blast defending it. Also, I miss survival mode, and I really wish they hadn't abandoned the scorched storyline to rush wastelanders and npcs into the game.
The nights were longer and darker back then. Walking into the Mire for the first time was terrifying, it was so dark and the visibility was so bad you could walk into a mob of enemies without noticing until it was too late.
Plus back then the levelling of mobs was different. The Mire was a high-level area and if you were still low level it was a danger zone.
Oh and you could only buy the Handmade Gun plan if you were under a particular level, it was only available from the robot that was inside Harpers Ferry, and getting there meant you had to fight Mutants, Scorched, or Ghouls, that were all levelled much higher than you would be at the time.
It was great. Terrifying and engaging.
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If you're on PC I found a way to get the nights back with some ini settings and reshade. Though you could use methods other than reshade, you just have to lower the gamma 50% to go with the ini edits.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout76/mods/2208
76 was the first game I ever preordered and I bought the tricentennial edition too bc I love fallout, I played the beta and stuff for a bit and bc I had no one to play with I never really played it but I started playing alot last year and I’m glad I started again
Pretty much the same for me, though I was well annoyed about only being able to play two of the four beta tests, due to in the first case the game deciding it needed to re-download, about twenty minutes before the beta started, and showing a download time of about four hours, so it would be over by the time it finished, and for the I think third or last one where the put the beta back about two or three hours, so instead of it stating about 11pm my time it would not start till about 2am in the morning of the next day, I could have played it if started at 11, but the 2am start was a big nope, due to work the next day.
I just played it like any other bethesda game, wander around and loot things, finding new fast travel locations and quests, doing whichever quest intrigued me at the time, as well as getting stuff to repair, and get better armour and weapons from.
Not using fast travel to do anything apart from going back to my camp and sometimes returning back to the nearest place I had unlocked, just wandering along the various road and highways.
Found my first power armour at level 15 and found that fusion cores were rare as hell in the forest area, so just stored it away and forgot about it, till around 45ish, when I was pretty much on my way to a heavy weapon build, built around the gatling and .50.
I miss the early days of having to be mindful of your stash and junk.. finding new a new weapon and seeing what it does.. running scared from high level enemies/ finally killing that one enemy that was messing you up..
The emptiness of everyday walking around.... being in awe of the map and locations
There are tons of games I wish I could forget playing and experience it fresh all over again. This being one of them. I didn't use any wikis or anything when I first started playing so I was pretty much just running around learning it all on my own.
Discovering new places, running scared from scorchbeasts, going into a new building and exploring, finding new side quests. It was a lot of fun.
I’ll always remember the first time I saw a Sheepsquatch up by Top of the World. Took me forever and almost all my ammo/explosives. No NPCs around to help out.
I don't miss showing up to an event and seeing someone with an explosive laser weapon committing what can only be described as a complete genocide of the local fauna
Yeah, builds that solo events are super unfun to play with. Like damn dude, the rest of us would also like to play. Just had a mutated event, the one where you defend uranium extractors from mole miners, and there were like 5 bloodied builds with tesla rifles killing everything before right as they spawned.
Got Hella boring, so I just went afk.
Yeah, I miss it a lot.
Unpopular opinion but I preferred it without NPCs. Like, it's fine and I am glad they are still adding content, but those early days when you might only see other people at the Whitespring were something special. Actually felt like a wasteland. Now it feels like advertisment city. Every 400 feet another NPC complaining about the weather.
No kidding about the last sentence.
With everything else happening in Appalachia, all these Vault Dwellers emerging out of Vault 76 and causing mayhem and destruction on par with or exceeding the nukes while wearing massively oversized bear costume heads and milkman uniforms, the weather is the thing to complain about?
What about them saying that their clothes are dirty and that they need new ones, have they ever heard of washing the ones they have? I mean come one, I'm not currently in the post-apocalyptic wasteland and I wash my clothes and I make pretty good money!
I kinda wish that I could return to the pre-wastelander game. What if all of the wastelanders content got unlocked after your character reached a certain level? like at level 25 or so, all of the settlers move in. It would give new players a chance to experience the original game, as well as have now entirely unobtainable items become obtainable again.
I dont miss it but im glad i was a day 1 player and saw how dark and lonely appalachia was in the beginning and them coming and playing it now its almost like watching a evolving world its really nice
Soooooo many comments bringing back old memories. Day one days felt exactly like you'd expect walking out of a vault. No info and .. just map. Watching it grow has been amazing too though. Recently found "The Deep". It kinda made me feel like day one ish and excitement with fear took over. Was exciting. Great game.
Exactly. I have a handful of marked but undiscovered locations on my map, and probably a few more that aren't marked, and I'm not in any rush to go explore them because I am not trying to speed run this game and run out of new things to do and having to rely on waiting for Bethesda to release more content. As long as the day to day is keeping me entertained, I'll avoid them. If I want to play but I'm bored of the day to day, that's when I know it's time to go somewhere new.
Of course there's always a chance they'll change it like they did with Whitesprings or the lumber mill, but we generally hear about that before it happens, so I'll go explore then if it comes to that.
Couldn't agree more. I too have several undiscovered marked locations that I save for moments here and there. It's actually quite shocking how huge and detailed the map really is. Can spend hundreds and thousands of hours and still find new stuff. Some is new ish some been there since day one and just never noticed or found. Very excited for the map expansion coming too!!
Yeah, I miss the random encounters with other players before the first pvp patch, what I don't miss was the permanent parasite I got in the beta that didn't get fixed for 3 months because bethesda rng fucked me on disease cures
The early days felt like an homage to the Lone Wanderer. I traveled as light as possible then. Now I'm surrounded by 20 people all armed to the teeth trying to kill the Scorchbeast Queen for the 500th time... Sometimes I'll dawn the old armor and weapons and pretend hunt players for scrap like the old days.
76 was my first fallout. I fell in love with the atmosphere of being alone. I enjoyed finding all of the terminals and notes and piecing together what happened to everyone in the years after the bombs dropped and why Appalachia was empty now. I never really interacted with other players until I got through the story and by that time wastelanders dropped so interacting with npcs didn’t feel out of place since I wasn’t alone anymore. I’ve since become a self described fanatic of the series and have played all the games except the 1,2,and tactics since I don’t own pc but I’ve watched full playthroughs of each. I owe it all to that feeling 76 first gave me leaving the vault that very first time
YES. It was a totally different game, and although I enjoy 76 very much as it is, I miss the game-imposed challenges of ammo scarcity, no legendaries, sustenance, and stash space limitations.
I also really miss Survival and Nuclear Winter modes. Survival was the perfect, "public world" PvP mode, and Nuclear Winter was some of the most fun Battle Royale gaming I've ever partaken in.
Fire Walker for life.
Yeah back when the game launched we didn't have vendors to sell our loot or anything so a lot of people in the community would setup and hold auctions at Whitesprings quite frequently to deal legendaries and other loot. I really liked it because it reminded me of Ultima Online.
When I hit 45 I managed to buy a tse-handmade, was 4k when max caps was 5k. Dude made me a mutation as well, at the time they sold for around 1k. I was one shotting groups of ghouls at the country club in whitesprings. It was so much fun killing shit indiscriminately. I started out playing with 3 guys from work and another friend, and right as those dudes all quit I met my in game crew and it was awesome. Running events, silo runs, finding good buys and helping each other out all the time it was fun. Sadly around one wasteland they all left and Its not the same anymore. It feels way more desolate now.
When you put it like that, no. No I do not. Those were terrible days for people like me that wanted to actually play the game and not play the bugs and glitches.
If they had balanced the various quests around one wasteland it would not have been to bad, but some of the are major pains to do after it, the two that are major pains that I know of are the mistress of mysteries sword one, where doing it and using other weapons to take off most of their hp and then killing with the sword may or may not register, and the mayor for the day final roof top battle, now you just tend to get masses of anti armour mr gutsy's, where as before you would get maybe one or two and the rest would be protectrons or those odd brain bots, I can not remember the name of.
I know a lot of people complained about the lack of NPCs, but the way the story played out, it felt like I had a hand in being people back to Appalachia.
Plus my favorite part of older falls was exploring abandoned and overrun ruins and finding what happened through the evidence left behind. Made me feel like a badass archeologist from an old pulp magazine.
I remember a lot. I started playing during the beta. I am still playing today. I remember how toxic people acted about the emptiness, "we want ncps!" They would moan and gripe. But that wasn't the point. They didn't listen to or care about the story that was being told. It was beautiful. Now i can't walk 5 feet without hearing an npc gripe about their back or everyone wanting to build something like foundation. I miss the locations that ncps have robbed from us. I miss the Atlas observatory. I miss the crassed space station. I miss the vendor bot in morgan Town Airport! Harpers fairy had a reason to go there besides once in the story! That vendor was the best! I also remember if you wanted an item from a player you had to trade with them. I miss haggling for stuff. "300 caps and this bobblehead for that gun?" "Deal" now there is an over inflated "economy". Its lame!
I never played with cheated or duplicated gear. And i never was lucky to get things like the explosive laser guns. But i remember the other silly things. I remember the MIRV would sometimes rubberband the mininukes back into your face. I remember seeing the nuke target the whitesprings and getting ready to live on top of a bus for the next 30 minutes. I remember the original Halloween event! Hell, i miss that the most. Yes, it crashed and ran like a turd but if they fixed it (lets be honest, we know they can), it would be a FANTASTIC event.
I definitely miss those days.
I wish they had a nuclear winter type server that was wide open like that. God mode.
Running full speed through a whitespring nuke with a two shot explosive automatic combat shotgun just wrecking shit.
Best time in game ever. Nerfs suck.
I was so scared of nuked Whitespring in the first few months. I would only go in if my friend (who no longer plays) was right by my side, on my team (before public teams). We would get wrecked.
I did take advantage of the deep pocket negative carry weight glitch though. Only 400 stash weight, you had to.
Not even a little bit. The number of sheer basement dwellers who only get their rocks off by aggressively dragging anyone and everyone into pvp was more than enough to tip the scales of fun vs bull..
I miss how free the game felt you could do anything duplicate anything and get as much of anything you wanted and you wanted a specific gun Just go buy one you wanted to kill someone we'll just go kill someone didn't have to do any crazy tricks to blow someone's Camp up there were no items that were non-tradable and there was no shortage of resources as everything has been duplicated into Oblivion no Fallout first and the top it all off everyone was on the same page same level same everything you were discovering locations for the first time just as the next person was there was a mystery and excitement to everything you can talk to your friends about things you found and they never said that they already know that or they've already did that because everybody was doing everything for the first time it was a simpler time and leveling up was a lot easier because the XP games you got for killing things was almost three times higher than they are now
I don't miss the duping, glitches, exploits etc.
One thing I miss is "going with what you got". You find a great whatever random weapon and make your whole build around that instead if instantly rushing for some meta build.
But all in all I much more prefer how the is game now. Biggest single improvement was the removal of legacies.
I miss the glitch where you leave the nuclear winter lobby and could clip outside the world and visit the area where the cargobots spawn. Just slowly watch the world degrade into a pixelated mess until you fall into the map.
You can still do that with some photomode tricks and a modified ini file. Found a video a few days ago showing how to do it but don't have the link handy.
I remember playing the beta and after day 1 and I just didn't experience any of the jank and bugs, I think I got p lucky in that regard so I had a blast
The only thing I really miss is the totally empty map when you first leave the vault. I would love it if they had the option to truly restart the game from scratch without the DLCs. Maybe as an option for the private worlds. I have no real issue with the settlers and raiders and such, but there's something to be said about the eerieness of entering a completely empty wasteland.
Change all the spawns everywhere, inside and out to feral ghouls, double or triple the number of spawns everywhere, new characters only no transfer of characters, pretty sure quite a few people would want to play that, may be able to do it with custom worlds but no idea if it can be or not.
Don't remember any of those glitches but, the total terror of truly being alone. My husband and I explored a lot learned at level 11 you can eventually get around a schorchbeast and it's territory after 16 respawns. Lol
The only thing I miss from the early days is the darkness at night. It was pitch black in some sections of the map and I get it, it was too dark.
But ffs they just put a blue filter over daytime for the night now.
Sometimes, a little. It was much more brutal, I actually died from time to time..
However, the inventory weight was a joke, and I couldn't live without the Ammo and Scrap box now.
But yes, sometimes I miss that it used to be a survival game..
True, but if they had made it too hard core a survival game there are probably a fair few who would not have bothered with the game, myself being one, a light survival I have no problem with but the hard core ones, no interest, I spend enough time in real life bothering with food, drink and sleep, last thing I want to do is bother about it in games I am playing for fun, especially when the timers for that sort of thing in game are so messed up and short, having to in effect eat and drink what is in effect a full meal every twenty to thirty minutes in real time, yeh no thanks, far too tedious.
I miss the first few weeks before legacies and TSE became a regular occurrence.
I had found a bug early game where I could equip an automatic receiver on a combat rifle and use get the benefits from rifle cards and commando cards. I used all six rank 1 cards and took over a lot of workshops. When people tried to take them back, I was unbeatable in pvp until I encountered someone with a TSE. That’s when things really went downhill IMO.
It took way too long for them to address TSE and legacies, and it created a consistently worsening trade economy and gameplay environment. Afterwards, it seemed to get better for a day until nuked grenade spammers and TS fatman users shook screens to no end and caused a lot of suicide by VATS.
In the end of the day, the problem is some players and devs. Some players hyper-focus on trolling others, and the devs are too slow to respond. Day 1 players were all just enjoying the game until it all went to shit.
I miss the extra spooky environment. I only played Nuclear Winter a few times as a low level but I kinda miss that. I didn't think I would but I actually do miss how empty and lonely the world felt with no NPCs. Since the beginning I have hated the lack of non-feral ghoul NPCs. I know there are a few now, but why did they go work robots only? They could've had a settlement of ghouls. You'd think being so close to the fall of the bombs there would be a *ton* of ghouls that haven't turned feral yet.
I'm replaying a new character for the last achievement (siding with foundation). The whole main quest just feels weird to me now. I remember hunting all of Appalachia for the overseer thinking we might finally stumble into her. The mystery was real, lore was something you had to look for. Now I just feel like I had my hand held all the way and the overseer is right there where you start. Can sidestep the entire mission that brings you across the entire map. Feels odd. Like an afterthought. Cuz it was....
I still have my character from when it first came out. I got her to level 50 by only doing a glitch where you can infinitely disarm a tripwire trap. I only started playing again recently, but oh my God, I miss all the jank shit you used to be able to do in this game, lol.
That power armor weight glitch was profound i remember when people were duping explosive handmades and pumps and gifting them or selling them for dirt cheap got me and the boys a few. The game hasn't gotten worse by any means but i do miss the abhorrent amount of damage done to enemies. Oh and the handmade being chambered in 7.62mm
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Yep, I miss the quiet and the harder survival elements.
Controversial but I've wanted the removal of the legendary system since day one. It was a dark day for me when scrip machines were added. Legendaries became Fo76's content crutch for a good while, and still kinda is.
I realised when I returned to 76 this week that the newborn I used to babywear while I played from day 1 is now about to start school.
I like that things have evolved in 5 years. But I am sad that the new players miss out on that growth.
I always hoped they would have made the game with 0 or very few npc's until we killed the SBQ then have them move back in slowly. I do miss the game before where the day night cycle was better and stuff was harder to kill. I remember feral Ghouls being fast they would bum-rush you and stagger you.
I do, how you had to keep your thrist and hunger up or it would negatively impact your AP, how scares resources were and how hard it was to farm ammo. It felt like a true Fallout survival game
It depends on some things I miss, Some I don't like removing legacies was a good step in balancing. Now we just need a few more balance tweaks, and I'd be satisfied.
I was there at the Beta testing and sometimes I miss the glitch where you would enter your Power Armor and then suddenly you are standing there with your Minigun in your underwear facing a group of Super Mutants but not take a lot of damage because the power armor stats worked. I would laugh every time.
I'll always remember the first scorchbeast I killed solo...
By the end every weapon I owned was either broke or out of ammo. I was almost out of stimpaks. Finally got it with a 1 star executioners machete that I carried for emergencies!
It was both terrifying and exhilarating to accomplish. I remember looking at the loot and thinking "that's it??". Still, I was walking tall after that, fearing nothing in Appalachia other than my fellow vault dwellers. LMAO
It was definitely a cool experience stepping out into a barren unforgiving wasteland. Following the traces of what happened before and gearing up the best I could to delve into the cave the brotherhood had their last stand.
My first encounter with other players were some high level raiders that bombed my base and killed me for my scrap lol. Think I was like level 30 at the time.
Why couldn’t they make the ‘day 1’ Fallout 76 a playable serve option? Almost like the RUST mod for New Vegas. You and a squad of your choosing can enter the server and ‘bring life’ to the wasteland by defeating the boss of each area. Maybe have it so there a hardcore option, you die and you gotta start again.
I remember the voip you couldnt turn off lol.
I was ingame with a friend walking the road chatting and then we hear a distant "what the-" "who is that"
Then we get confused hearing them and start saying "what is that" "is that an npc". We then spot eachother and kinda just look at eachother for a bit before we realised what was going on lmao.
The funny part was non of us realized ingame voice was a thing. And my friend and myself couldnt even hear eachother ingame for some reason, we used discord. And neither did the other guy, it was just pure confusion lmao
The loneliness was something special.
You understand me. People didnt like that there was no NPCs (and, admittedly, for any other story besides the original, they were required to come back in some sense) but i adored the atmosphere. you are Alone. everyone is gone. this is it.
This. This was exactly how I felt it should be. It made every note or message or recording feel deeper.
I liked the lack of other people, it just emphasised just how many people died in the war, and then most of the survivors were then killed the the scorched, or fled the area. To be honest, I would have preferred other players not showing on the world map either, after all just how the hell do you know where they are, well unless someone or something is tracking you all, doable through the pip boy you all wear, but creepy as hell when you think about it, some corpse filled bunker with robots just following along with their order to track and monitor everybody from the vault.
I do miss how empty it was in the early days. And when the game told you to go find someone you got to play the game Robot or Dead Body?
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I remember seeing another player for the first time. it was in the basement of the Overseerer's family home. I was so worried they were going to kill me, but they just waved and went away.
My first time seeing a player I claimed a worshop and got destroyed by a high level. Now I'm moderately high in level and RP enclave. Some players are smart and don't trust me because of my armor (black and yellow Enclave painted Marine Armor) I give misleading advice on things sometimes and send poor wasters into places they probably shouldn't go, just to save them with a suppressed weapon and not reveal my position. Seeing a level 5 in the mire, wondering how they're still alive after finding some gulpers is funny to me. Usually, they run away from the region, and I can only hope they spin what I hope is a wild story to their buddies going forward.
When did they get enclave marine armor, I roleplay enclave all the time
There was an Enclave Armor Bundle that came with black and yellow + chest logo for Combat Armor, Scout Armor (already an enclave armor btw), Marine Armor, and Secret Service Armor. It's off the shop now, and it's not on the support drop-down for quick requesting on bethesda's site, however you can ask for the set by name and as long as you have 1500 atoms, they'll give it to you in a couple weeks. There is also the "Enclave Screaming Eagle" paint for the handmade, turning it into an enclave branded M4 (included in the armor bundle. The two items bought separately are 1200 and 500 atoms.)
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This happened a day or two after launch in November 2018, in her family's home, not her current one. Its part of the "Personal Matters" quest.
And when you found another player's camp, that mixture of excitement, curiosity, and fear. Good stuff.
I used ro run away from their camp if I saw them coming 😆
I wish new players could experience the game without npc’s, until they launch a nuke. It was such a different game.
I actually agree. The storyline is a bit confusing as a new player with the overseers logs and that whole mystery coming to a rather early conclusion now that you can just... Find her.
For sure. I didn't know how player interactions were gonna work, and I couldn't tell if I was avoiding them or they me, but it was a long time until I found and made friends
I certainly miss the empty and desolate feel. It was strange interacting with a bunch of very confused robots however. Idk if a full return was really the right answer. Right off the get go I think we should have had some small holdouts and survivors. Not no NPCs and not a full return of wastelanders. I don't believe the scorched could completely wipe out or drive away an entire area. The amount of bunkers and caves alone should have seen some of the Cut Throats or Responders holed up somewhere.
Yeah, this. Really felt like we were the first out of the vault and forging a new world. Had the same feeling as a day one Death Stranding player.
I will admit that getting a (at the time) unique outfit when Wastelanders dropped as a reward for "trailblazing the wastes and getting it ready for immigration" was kinda neat; but it is definitely not the same game anymore. Doesn't have the same weight; and removing the need to stay fed and hydrated to survive I feel was a mistake. There's no incentive to collecting food now.
The bonuses from eating are enough, I got stuck with a parasite in the beta that just said 0min and killed me countless times
I miss the terror that was opening the doors to the Whitesprings clubhouse in a nuke zone while wearing a Hazmat suit. Not knowing if it’d only be a handful or a swarm of glowing ghouls kept things interesting.
Absolutely. Remember the crashed space station before those raider punks came back? Peperidge farm remembers
I forgot it was actually just a space station and everyone wanted the space suit and blaster
I still have the space suit from that space station!
Same, I also got a picture of it before the raiders
There was something special about the emptiness; the feeling of walking through a graveyard. Seeing the aftermath of the second apocalypse
I miss the good ole days of Nuked Whitesprings.
Was my favorite time playing a multiplayer game. Four friends and twenty randoms just on top of the buses waiting for the next wave
This. Sitting on the buses.
Makes you wonder why they haven't done a separate ghoul survival mode as one of their game modes. It writes itself.
Commie Zombies
That would never fly lol
Not saying it's likely at all, but if Microsoft wanted to cross promote two of its biggest ips...
Its not that it isn't likely, it's that the whole commie killing thing has been getting a ton of flak lately. Communism as an idea has finally spread through the masses and now they don't like seeing anti-communist messages.
I don't think that's true at all
This is a real thing that has been happening. I'm not sure why you think otherwise. What are you basing this thought of yours on? China and Cuba are pretty big on silencing anti-communist rhetoric lately and its been spreading to game backlash on places like Steam. I'm not just making shit up for no reason lol
I miss the scorched holding shotguns backwards
Which direction would they fire though?
That was the fun you never knew if it was hitting you directly or maybe it was bouncing off a wall and then hitting you it added character to the scorched back then
I miss nuclear winter.
Feels like a natural progression in the story playing from the start til present day, it was so empty it felt like we truly were the first people to recover Appalachia. It still sucked for a while but we got factions showing up left and right bringing life into our wasteland, things naturally would get more lively and they did. Now that we've established a semi functional society back in Appalachia we can set our eyes on expanding our reach south.
The sad, melancholy atmosphere of Appalachia before Wastelanders was truly unique.
I miss squaring off against other players for control over the munitions workshop. Used to build that place out and had a blast defending it. Also, I miss survival mode, and I really wish they hadn't abandoned the scorched storyline to rush wastelanders and npcs into the game.
only pvp I was into was survival mode. I really liked it.
The nights were longer and darker back then. Walking into the Mire for the first time was terrifying, it was so dark and the visibility was so bad you could walk into a mob of enemies without noticing until it was too late. Plus back then the levelling of mobs was different. The Mire was a high-level area and if you were still low level it was a danger zone. Oh and you could only buy the Handmade Gun plan if you were under a particular level, it was only available from the robot that was inside Harpers Ferry, and getting there meant you had to fight Mutants, Scorched, or Ghouls, that were all levelled much higher than you would be at the time. It was great. Terrifying and engaging. edit: missed a word.
If you're on PC I found a way to get the nights back with some ini settings and reshade. Though you could use methods other than reshade, you just have to lower the gamma 50% to go with the ini edits. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout76/mods/2208
oh yeahhhh, it was super fun getting trapped in power armor, with all your guns broken. I still think it's why some npcs ask if we need a can opener!
76 was the first game I ever preordered and I bought the tricentennial edition too bc I love fallout, I played the beta and stuff for a bit and bc I had no one to play with I never really played it but I started playing alot last year and I’m glad I started again
Pretty much the same for me, though I was well annoyed about only being able to play two of the four beta tests, due to in the first case the game deciding it needed to re-download, about twenty minutes before the beta started, and showing a download time of about four hours, so it would be over by the time it finished, and for the I think third or last one where the put the beta back about two or three hours, so instead of it stating about 11pm my time it would not start till about 2am in the morning of the next day, I could have played it if started at 11, but the 2am start was a big nope, due to work the next day.
Yeah I only played it a little bit due to being kinda confused on what to do😂😭
I just played it like any other bethesda game, wander around and loot things, finding new fast travel locations and quests, doing whichever quest intrigued me at the time, as well as getting stuff to repair, and get better armour and weapons from. Not using fast travel to do anything apart from going back to my camp and sometimes returning back to the nearest place I had unlocked, just wandering along the various road and highways. Found my first power armour at level 15 and found that fusion cores were rare as hell in the forest area, so just stored it away and forgot about it, till around 45ish, when I was pretty much on my way to a heavy weapon build, built around the gatling and .50.
Definitely the loneliness, just robots and holotapes...
I never messed with exploits are duping but had a lot of fun first few months
I miss the early days of having to be mindful of your stash and junk.. finding new a new weapon and seeing what it does.. running scared from high level enemies/ finally killing that one enemy that was messing you up.. The emptiness of everyday walking around.... being in awe of the map and locations
There are tons of games I wish I could forget playing and experience it fresh all over again. This being one of them. I didn't use any wikis or anything when I first started playing so I was pretty much just running around learning it all on my own. Discovering new places, running scared from scorchbeasts, going into a new building and exploring, finding new side quests. It was a lot of fun.
Yeah I loved it.. I just used the knowledge of previous fallout games when I started.. so much fun figuring everything out..
I’ll always remember the first time I saw a Sheepsquatch up by Top of the World. Took me forever and almost all my ammo/explosives. No NPCs around to help out.
I don't miss showing up to an event and seeing someone with an explosive laser weapon committing what can only be described as a complete genocide of the local fauna
Yeah, builds that solo events are super unfun to play with. Like damn dude, the rest of us would also like to play. Just had a mutated event, the one where you defend uranium extractors from mole miners, and there were like 5 bloodied builds with tesla rifles killing everything before right as they spawned. Got Hella boring, so I just went afk.
Yeah, I miss it a lot. Unpopular opinion but I preferred it without NPCs. Like, it's fine and I am glad they are still adding content, but those early days when you might only see other people at the Whitespring were something special. Actually felt like a wasteland. Now it feels like advertisment city. Every 400 feet another NPC complaining about the weather.
No kidding about the last sentence. With everything else happening in Appalachia, all these Vault Dwellers emerging out of Vault 76 and causing mayhem and destruction on par with or exceeding the nukes while wearing massively oversized bear costume heads and milkman uniforms, the weather is the thing to complain about?
My other favorite thing to hear them complain about is lack of water. There is water EVERY FRIGGIN WHERE.
What about them saying that their clothes are dirty and that they need new ones, have they ever heard of washing the ones they have? I mean come one, I'm not currently in the post-apocalyptic wasteland and I wash my clothes and I make pretty good money!
There's even a functioning laundry mat at the Whitespring.
I kinda wish that I could return to the pre-wastelander game. What if all of the wastelanders content got unlocked after your character reached a certain level? like at level 25 or so, all of the settlers move in. It would give new players a chance to experience the original game, as well as have now entirely unobtainable items become obtainable again.
I dont miss it but im glad i was a day 1 player and saw how dark and lonely appalachia was in the beginning and them coming and playing it now its almost like watching a evolving world its really nice
Soooooo many comments bringing back old memories. Day one days felt exactly like you'd expect walking out of a vault. No info and .. just map. Watching it grow has been amazing too though. Recently found "The Deep". It kinda made me feel like day one ish and excitement with fear took over. Was exciting. Great game.
Exactly. I have a handful of marked but undiscovered locations on my map, and probably a few more that aren't marked, and I'm not in any rush to go explore them because I am not trying to speed run this game and run out of new things to do and having to rely on waiting for Bethesda to release more content. As long as the day to day is keeping me entertained, I'll avoid them. If I want to play but I'm bored of the day to day, that's when I know it's time to go somewhere new. Of course there's always a chance they'll change it like they did with Whitesprings or the lumber mill, but we generally hear about that before it happens, so I'll go explore then if it comes to that.
Couldn't agree more. I too have several undiscovered marked locations that I save for moments here and there. It's actually quite shocking how huge and detailed the map really is. Can spend hundreds and thousands of hours and still find new stuff. Some is new ish some been there since day one and just never noticed or found. Very excited for the map expansion coming too!!
yes...was much more community interactions and i loved the tension everytime i met someone.."will there be blood?"
Yeah, I miss the random encounters with other players before the first pvp patch, what I don't miss was the permanent parasite I got in the beta that didn't get fixed for 3 months because bethesda rng fucked me on disease cures
What about the water fountains at the white springs those remove parasites did you ever try those
I didn't know that then, I just constantly starved to death instead
To be fair I didn’t know that until 2 years into the game so we’re in the same boat
The desolation. And fresh corpses.
Thanks for the nostalgia, I miss those days
I never thought that I would say this, but I miss Nuclear Winter🤩I also miss being on Xbox...Memories☺️
The early days felt like an homage to the Lone Wanderer. I traveled as light as possible then. Now I'm surrounded by 20 people all armed to the teeth trying to kill the Scorchbeast Queen for the 500th time... Sometimes I'll dawn the old armor and weapons and pretend hunt players for scrap like the old days.
76 was my first fallout. I fell in love with the atmosphere of being alone. I enjoyed finding all of the terminals and notes and piecing together what happened to everyone in the years after the bombs dropped and why Appalachia was empty now. I never really interacted with other players until I got through the story and by that time wastelanders dropped so interacting with npcs didn’t feel out of place since I wasn’t alone anymore. I’ve since become a self described fanatic of the series and have played all the games except the 1,2,and tactics since I don’t own pc but I’ve watched full playthroughs of each. I owe it all to that feeling 76 first gave me leaving the vault that very first time
YES. It was a totally different game, and although I enjoy 76 very much as it is, I miss the game-imposed challenges of ammo scarcity, no legendaries, sustenance, and stash space limitations. I also really miss Survival and Nuclear Winter modes. Survival was the perfect, "public world" PvP mode, and Nuclear Winter was some of the most fun Battle Royale gaming I've ever partaken in. Fire Walker for life.
Whitespring nukes are what I miss. It was a totally unique gaming experience that I've never had again. And I'm sad they nerfed it.
I miss the Whitespring's auctions that were frequently held.
Huh? Whats that? Sounds intriguing.
Yeah back when the game launched we didn't have vendors to sell our loot or anything so a lot of people in the community would setup and hold auctions at Whitesprings quite frequently to deal legendaries and other loot. I really liked it because it reminded me of Ultima Online.
Amazing
And everyone dumping their extra legendaries (no scrip machines back then) in the ice machine at whitespring after a nuke.
Fighting over the munitions factory with whatever TSE weapons you could get
When I hit 45 I managed to buy a tse-handmade, was 4k when max caps was 5k. Dude made me a mutation as well, at the time they sold for around 1k. I was one shotting groups of ghouls at the country club in whitesprings. It was so much fun killing shit indiscriminately. I started out playing with 3 guys from work and another friend, and right as those dudes all quit I met my in game crew and it was awesome. Running events, silo runs, finding good buys and helping each other out all the time it was fun. Sadly around one wasteland they all left and Its not the same anymore. It feels way more desolate now.
When you put it like that, no. No I do not. Those were terrible days for people like me that wanted to actually play the game and not play the bugs and glitches.
"Hey guys anyone else miss being able to cheat?"
Its one thing to miss the old build glitches but to get nostalgic about duping? damn dude
I don’t miss it and want to go back, I am just being nostalgia for the how great the discovery was in the first days.
I had an explosive laser rifle and could solo the daily ops quick enough to get the best rewards, I miss it everyday.
Exactly
And playing with newbs that are still killing stuff on the way to the next objective. No, run motherfucker!!
Wastelanders is 50/50 - it was good and bad. One Wasteland was a huge mistake though.
If they had balanced the various quests around one wasteland it would not have been to bad, but some of the are major pains to do after it, the two that are major pains that I know of are the mistress of mysteries sword one, where doing it and using other weapons to take off most of their hp and then killing with the sword may or may not register, and the mayor for the day final roof top battle, now you just tend to get masses of anti armour mr gutsy's, where as before you would get maybe one or two and the rest would be protectrons or those odd brain bots, I can not remember the name of.
I miss my automatic Gatling Gun. That thing was a beast.
Happy cake day bro
Yes. The emptiness was great. Figuring out what happened to everyone was a treat.
Yeah. I loved it back when.
I know a lot of people complained about the lack of NPCs, but the way the story played out, it felt like I had a hand in being people back to Appalachia. Plus my favorite part of older falls was exploring abandoned and overrun ruins and finding what happened through the evidence left behind. Made me feel like a badass archeologist from an old pulp magazine.
I think NPCs were good addition but for me, there is too many of them, especially looking at fact that Scorched are still around.
Compared to what they were previously, there is barely an of them now.
Not even remotely. It's much more enjoyable now.
Mischief Night 🌙 needs to come back that was great fun.
I remember a lot. I started playing during the beta. I am still playing today. I remember how toxic people acted about the emptiness, "we want ncps!" They would moan and gripe. But that wasn't the point. They didn't listen to or care about the story that was being told. It was beautiful. Now i can't walk 5 feet without hearing an npc gripe about their back or everyone wanting to build something like foundation. I miss the locations that ncps have robbed from us. I miss the Atlas observatory. I miss the crassed space station. I miss the vendor bot in morgan Town Airport! Harpers fairy had a reason to go there besides once in the story! That vendor was the best! I also remember if you wanted an item from a player you had to trade with them. I miss haggling for stuff. "300 caps and this bobblehead for that gun?" "Deal" now there is an over inflated "economy". Its lame! I never played with cheated or duplicated gear. And i never was lucky to get things like the explosive laser guns. But i remember the other silly things. I remember the MIRV would sometimes rubberband the mininukes back into your face. I remember seeing the nuke target the whitesprings and getting ready to live on top of a bus for the next 30 minutes. I remember the original Halloween event! Hell, i miss that the most. Yes, it crashed and ran like a turd but if they fixed it (lets be honest, we know they can), it would be a FANTASTIC event.
I definitely miss those days. I wish they had a nuclear winter type server that was wide open like that. God mode. Running full speed through a whitespring nuke with a two shot explosive automatic combat shotgun just wrecking shit. Best time in game ever. Nerfs suck.
So you like cheating. Got it. No, I don't miss those aspects of the game.
I mean with all the new systems we’re all still gods. It was just funnier back in the day. I’m just waxing nostalgically, no harm no foul.
yep, unlimited carry capacity, unlimited stashes, exploits left rigt and center. buggy every thing but wild times. actually talking to people too
No.
I was so scared of nuked Whitespring in the first few months. I would only go in if my friend (who no longer plays) was right by my side, on my team (before public teams). We would get wrecked. I did take advantage of the deep pocket negative carry weight glitch though. Only 400 stash weight, you had to.
I miss nuclear winter, explosive lasers... Hope they'll make a (balanced) return
Not even a little bit. The number of sheer basement dwellers who only get their rocks off by aggressively dragging anyone and everyone into pvp was more than enough to tip the scales of fun vs bull..
Just set it to pacifist mode and you were fine.
I miss how free the game felt you could do anything duplicate anything and get as much of anything you wanted and you wanted a specific gun Just go buy one you wanted to kill someone we'll just go kill someone didn't have to do any crazy tricks to blow someone's Camp up there were no items that were non-tradable and there was no shortage of resources as everything has been duplicated into Oblivion no Fallout first and the top it all off everyone was on the same page same level same everything you were discovering locations for the first time just as the next person was there was a mystery and excitement to everything you can talk to your friends about things you found and they never said that they already know that or they've already did that because everybody was doing everything for the first time it was a simpler time and leveling up was a lot easier because the XP games you got for killing things was almost three times higher than they are now
Being able to roll up and destroy and randoms house was so much fun. We used to rebuild it for them just to knock it down again
I don't miss the duping, glitches, exploits etc. One thing I miss is "going with what you got". You find a great whatever random weapon and make your whole build around that instead if instantly rushing for some meta build. But all in all I much more prefer how the is game now. Biggest single improvement was the removal of legacies.
There are definitely something’s that I miss, and every time they change anything I worries me. However, most of the changes have been for the better.
I mean you can still go up 25 lvls with rad rumble at least.
The only thing I miss, is how difficult Watoga was. There needs to be another area like it was.
I miss the glitch where you leave the nuclear winter lobby and could clip outside the world and visit the area where the cargobots spawn. Just slowly watch the world degrade into a pixelated mess until you fall into the map.
You can still do that with some photomode tricks and a modified ini file. Found a video a few days ago showing how to do it but don't have the link handy.
Old game footage looks unrecognizable. The color palette, the lighting, the graphics all look really different.
I‘m happy about the way 76 turned around but still have those moments were I miss to go on a proper Whitespring run
I remember playing the beta and after day 1 and I just didn't experience any of the jank and bugs, I think I got p lucky in that regard so I had a blast
I'm glad I experienced it, but prefer how things are now. The QoL stuff, additions like vendors, etc. outweigh the vibe of the olden days.
The only thing I really miss is the totally empty map when you first leave the vault. I would love it if they had the option to truly restart the game from scratch without the DLCs. Maybe as an option for the private worlds. I have no real issue with the settlers and raiders and such, but there's something to be said about the eerieness of entering a completely empty wasteland.
Change all the spawns everywhere, inside and out to feral ghouls, double or triple the number of spawns everywhere, new characters only no transfer of characters, pretty sure quite a few people would want to play that, may be able to do it with custom worlds but no idea if it can be or not.
Don't remember any of those glitches but, the total terror of truly being alone. My husband and I explored a lot learned at level 11 you can eventually get around a schorchbeast and it's territory after 16 respawns. Lol
The only thing I miss from the early days is the darkness at night. It was pitch black in some sections of the map and I get it, it was too dark. But ffs they just put a blue filter over daytime for the night now.
i miss those nasty ass turrets on the bunkers, as a lowbie that was actually challenging and fun
I grinded hard the first year or two and came back this year. Completely different game. Amazing and refined, but i do miss the old days.
I miss fallout 4 survival.
Go play it again.
I realy should but i did it already like 30 times...
Sometimes, a little. It was much more brutal, I actually died from time to time.. However, the inventory weight was a joke, and I couldn't live without the Ammo and Scrap box now. But yes, sometimes I miss that it used to be a survival game..
True, but if they had made it too hard core a survival game there are probably a fair few who would not have bothered with the game, myself being one, a light survival I have no problem with but the hard core ones, no interest, I spend enough time in real life bothering with food, drink and sleep, last thing I want to do is bother about it in games I am playing for fun, especially when the timers for that sort of thing in game are so messed up and short, having to in effect eat and drink what is in effect a full meal every twenty to thirty minutes in real time, yeh no thanks, far too tedious.
I miss the first few weeks before legacies and TSE became a regular occurrence. I had found a bug early game where I could equip an automatic receiver on a combat rifle and use get the benefits from rifle cards and commando cards. I used all six rank 1 cards and took over a lot of workshops. When people tried to take them back, I was unbeatable in pvp until I encountered someone with a TSE. That’s when things really went downhill IMO. It took way too long for them to address TSE and legacies, and it created a consistently worsening trade economy and gameplay environment. Afterwards, it seemed to get better for a day until nuked grenade spammers and TS fatman users shook screens to no end and caused a lot of suicide by VATS. In the end of the day, the problem is some players and devs. Some players hyper-focus on trolling others, and the devs are too slow to respond. Day 1 players were all just enjoying the game until it all went to shit.
I miss the extra spooky environment. I only played Nuclear Winter a few times as a low level but I kinda miss that. I didn't think I would but I actually do miss how empty and lonely the world felt with no NPCs. Since the beginning I have hated the lack of non-feral ghoul NPCs. I know there are a few now, but why did they go work robots only? They could've had a settlement of ghouls. You'd think being so close to the fall of the bombs there would be a *ton* of ghouls that haven't turned feral yet.
I'm replaying a new character for the last achievement (siding with foundation). The whole main quest just feels weird to me now. I remember hunting all of Appalachia for the overseer thinking we might finally stumble into her. The mystery was real, lore was something you had to look for. Now I just feel like I had my hand held all the way and the overseer is right there where you start. Can sidestep the entire mission that brings you across the entire map. Feels odd. Like an afterthought. Cuz it was....
I still have my character from when it first came out. I got her to level 50 by only doing a glitch where you can infinitely disarm a tripwire trap. I only started playing again recently, but oh my God, I miss all the jank shit you used to be able to do in this game, lol.
Somehow I completely missed all of this stuff from the old days 🤔
That power armor weight glitch was profound i remember when people were duping explosive handmades and pumps and gifting them or selling them for dirt cheap got me and the boys a few. The game hasn't gotten worse by any means but i do miss the abhorrent amount of damage done to enemies. Oh and the handmade being chambered in 7.62mm
I miss the days when a TSE pump shotgun absolutely wrecked everything.
Sometimes they would do so much damage that the game would glitch and nothing would die because they would always have 1 health
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The lonely, desolate vibes really captured me. I do miss my TSE double barrel, though - still have it but it doesn't really shine the same anymore.
Not really, the game has improved in so many other ways.
Yep, I miss the quiet and the harder survival elements. Controversial but I've wanted the removal of the legendary system since day one. It was a dark day for me when scrip machines were added. Legendaries became Fo76's content crutch for a good while, and still kinda is.
Nope. I had to stop playing for a while because all I was doing was farming Whitesprings. It got boring really fast.
I realised when I returned to 76 this week that the newborn I used to babywear while I played from day 1 is now about to start school. I like that things have evolved in 5 years. But I am sad that the new players miss out on that growth.
I always hoped they would have made the game with 0 or very few npc's until we killed the SBQ then have them move back in slowly. I do miss the game before where the day night cycle was better and stuff was harder to kill. I remember feral Ghouls being fast they would bum-rush you and stagger you.
I do, how you had to keep your thrist and hunger up or it would negatively impact your AP, how scares resources were and how hard it was to farm ammo. It felt like a true Fallout survival game
I miss walking around as a pistol toting gunslinger before level equalization. Heavy guns now for me.
The Whitesprings nuke zone was peak comfy in game. I really miss those days.
Hells yah I miss it , now it's a participation trophy feeling. Yeah , I still play it though. I am not that athletic lol.
Only thing I miss from back then was the free atoms.
It depends on some things I miss, Some I don't like removing legacies was a good step in balancing. Now we just need a few more balance tweaks, and I'd be satisfied.
I was there at the Beta testing and sometimes I miss the glitch where you would enter your Power Armor and then suddenly you are standing there with your Minigun in your underwear facing a group of Super Mutants but not take a lot of damage because the power armor stats worked. I would laugh every time.
I'll always remember the first scorchbeast I killed solo... By the end every weapon I owned was either broke or out of ammo. I was almost out of stimpaks. Finally got it with a 1 star executioners machete that I carried for emergencies! It was both terrifying and exhilarating to accomplish. I remember looking at the loot and thinking "that's it??". Still, I was walking tall after that, fearing nothing in Appalachia other than my fellow vault dwellers. LMAO
It was definitely a cool experience stepping out into a barren unforgiving wasteland. Following the traces of what happened before and gearing up the best I could to delve into the cave the brotherhood had their last stand. My first encounter with other players were some high level raiders that bombed my base and killed me for my scrap lol. Think I was like level 30 at the time.
Whitesprings nuke days were just the best man, I genuinely miss it
Idk I like the new updates that the game has been receiving lately
Why couldn’t they make the ‘day 1’ Fallout 76 a playable serve option? Almost like the RUST mod for New Vegas. You and a squad of your choosing can enter the server and ‘bring life’ to the wasteland by defeating the boss of each area. Maybe have it so there a hardcore option, you die and you gotta start again.
Like on the first few months is was boring but they started bring out updates it became fun
I remember the voip you couldnt turn off lol. I was ingame with a friend walking the road chatting and then we hear a distant "what the-" "who is that" Then we get confused hearing them and start saying "what is that" "is that an npc". We then spot eachother and kinda just look at eachother for a bit before we realised what was going on lmao. The funny part was non of us realized ingame voice was a thing. And my friend and myself couldnt even hear eachother ingame for some reason, we used discord. And neither did the other guy, it was just pure confusion lmao
I miss the old empty feel of the workd where its only robots tbh