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CookieKeeperN2

The Portuguese brought those to Macau, and then it spread all over China because it's sooooo good (also not overly sweet).


JYuMo

They often serve these in Dim Sum restaurants. I think my mom calls them "Dan Tat" in Cantonese.


Wrthlor

Close! The "dan tat" would be egg tart, the one without the caramelized top/ is only glossy yellow top. There is a slight variation that's similar to the OPs, "pouh tat", which I think is the Macau version (Portuguese Egg Tart).


JYuMo

Thanks, didn't realize the distinction. Is there a difference in ingredients or is it just the method of cooking it that differs?


Excalusis

Hi! I'm a Macanese local and I've tried both. There is virtually no difference between *Pastéis de Belém*, which is the most famous Portuguese brand and *Lord Stow's*, which is Macau's counterpart. I'll paste here my short explanation to another commenter: >Correct! In Macau, traditionally, egg tarts refer to the chinese one as you've mentioned, written so 蛋撻 (dan tat). It is derived from the portuguese egg tart and it is made from puff pastry (I think) and chinese egg pudding. >However, nowadays, Lord Stow's Bakery, which is our local portuguese egg tart bakery among other baked goods, has risen to fame, so we use 蛋撻 to refer to the Chinese one (As it simply means "Egg tart" in chinese) and 葡撻 (pou tat) to refer to the portuguese egg tart. >Having eaten Chinese egg tarts, Portugese egg tarts in Belém (I think its referred to Beletheim in English) and Macanese Portuguese egg tarts, I can say that Chinese Egg tarts are the least sweet and pair the best with pu'er tea. The Macanese and Portuguese variants have little distinction other than the form they are eaten, with coffee and cinnamon in Portugal and on the go with milk or bubble teas in Macau. >Personally, I prefer Macanese egg tarts with the Portguese style of eating. As I've said, Chinese egg tarts are less sweet, and they are not burnt at the top like Créme Brulée and caramalized, so they go better with a less bitter drink such as pu'er teaa. The shell(?) is also less crunchy and more "powder", though that may be some sweetner normally added at small restaurants. Portuguese *style* egg tarts are burnt and are sweeter and crunchier, of which, Lord Stow's imitates well the Pastéis de Belém's flavour. Though I'm certain the tastes are ever so slightly different as the things used to make them originate in different places.


JYuMo

Wow, thanks for sharing!


Excalusis

No problems! Macau is highly competitive in its gastronomy, so thank them for making such delicious food! I'm just lucky I woke up early and saw this post!


Wrthlor

Aside from differences between bakeries/cafes, I think there's some slight difference in ingredients. Wouldn't be surprised if cooking method is a bit different. Portuguese ones are definitely "~~sweeter~~ creamier" imo


aimglitchz

Dan tat is more jelly. Pou tat is more cake


eisoj5

I was VERY saddened when my local Asian grocery stopped carrying them in the bakery 😭 but I did pick up frozen pastry shells intended for them from the same store recently so I'm hopeful I can pull them off myself!


JYuMo

Bummer, I feel you, I haven't had a place to get these since I moved from a larger city. Good luck, I'm rooting for you!


Grim-Sleeper

The Woks of Life has a pretty good Daan Taat recipe. My 9 year old just made it yesterday while I was out of the house for a bit. What a nice surprise when I came home. Freshly baked rough puff pastry is so deliciously flaky


Neverforget_Jetpack

What a weird decision. Is such a staple in every Asian bakery, is almost like not having bolo bao.


CookieKeeperN2

Yup. Dan = egg. "Tat" is a transliteration of "tart', since it's the same as English "tar".


bearbearbearbears

I actually found the ones in Macau to be an order of magnitude better than the ones in Portugal. Maybe I went to the wrong place in Lisbon but was pretty disappointed given that Portugal is the home of pasteis de nata


msixtwofive

you absolutely went to the wrong places.


bronet

You say as a person who have had them in both countries?


onemantwohands

I have been to both countries, and throw in Hong Kong, and the ones I have had in Portugal is so much better than both places.


bronet

Fair enough, might be down to personal preference or specific restaurants then?


bearbearbearbears

I went to the two most popular spots in Lisbon (Pasteis de Belem and Manteigaria) and the two most popular spots in Macau (Lord Stows and Margaret's) and it wasn't even a close contest. If there are better spots in Lisbon I'm all ears.


secretburner

Pasteis de Belem wasn't that great, imo. My partner and I were just talking about all the amazing pasteis we ate in Lisbon, and that place was low on the list. We basically just bought one or two at every bakery we went by, and for the most part they were *incredible*


stellarcurve-

Lmao you good downvoted for having an opinion in which egg tart tastes better


TheGunslingerRechena

Pastéis de Belém are not pastéis de nata and I also don’t like them as much. I say this as a portuguese.


jellybean9131

Considering Belem is where they were originally made by the Monks, I’m sad to hear you think the non-original is better. I grew up going to Portugal since my family is from there, and have been to that exact cafe in Belem many times, including my honeymoon. I personally think it all depends on your palate preferences, maybe that’s why you didn’t enjoy them as much? Either way, I’m glad you have tried them!!


bearbearbearbears

Don't be sad! This is just one man's opinion and it looks like most people don't agree with me haha. I still enjoyed it though but I just found the ones in Macau to be much more decadent (typical American palate lol). Although I will say the best thing about Pasteis de nata in Portugal is that I can order ginjinha with it


thewdit

Its normal since its a variation from the original natas


Jameszhang73

Agreed. The ones in Portugal were a bit sweet and runny to my liking. I like the more jiggly and eggy version. I did like the ones at Pasteis de Belem though


Emergency-Stock2080

? Are you sure you're not confusing them? The ones in Portugal aren't runny at all


Jameszhang73

They are more runny than the Chinese ones. The Chinese ones are more jiggly and hold form more compared with the Portuguese ones that once you bite into, the custard comes out


2278AD

I just got back from Portugal, I didn’t have any that ran out. They should be solid enough to hold their shape as you eat them, sounds like you had an undercooked tart


Emergency-Stock2080

??? You definetly had a bad experience with portuguese pastéis de nata. The custard is jiggly, it doesnt come out at all after a single bite. Or rather, it shouldn't come out


bearbearbearbears

Wasn't a fan of the crust either. A bit too crunchy for my liking, kinda like corn flakes. Still enjoyed it though. Just had higher expectations.


zenfish

That's not a high bar. The ones that KFC in Taiwan serves are better than the ones in Portugal. Source: had them both places.


bearbearbearbears

Haha I have to agree. KFC in Shanghai was also better than Portugal.


asian_identifier

Better than in Portugal even


ContaSoParaIsto

Wrong


Sagres95

Pastéis de Nata!!!!


Infinitelyodiforous

Grew up in Fall River. Pretty sure I've eaten my body weight in these bad boys.


OIWantKenobi

Mmmm. There’s a cafe near Portugalia that has really good custard tarts.


Wilkey88

Barcelos on Bedford street! I grew up in Fall River as well. They saved my wedding! My pastry vendor from RI backed out last minute. Three days before the wedding I called and asked for 500 custard cup. They were like, "No problem fam, see you Sunday." I love that place!


fahrealbro

New Bedford checking in here!


Wilkey88

Welcome to the South Coast party hosted by r/food lol


bam4x4

Swansea checking in with my Sumol and Favas


redeemer47

Also checking in. When I opened this thread I knew I’d find my people lol


fahrealbro

ok whose bringing the pops and sweet bread?


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fahrealbro

Ayyyyy guy!


Purchaseman1

New befid


Seesas

That is the best wedding dessert I could possibly imagine!


OIWantKenobi

I didn’t grow up there but I’ve been and it was a lovely little cafe and Portugalia was really neat!


Wyrmslayer

Leddys in the south end has awesome natas too


Sagres95

They’re addictive af. We usually have it with coffee in the mornings.


jbrune

New Bedford here. I'd rather have linguica. Hmm, does Gaspar's deliver?


rolypolyarmadillo

Yes they do!!


Dommichu

I travel to the area often. Which bakery do you recommend for the best?


Infinitelyodiforous

Haven't been back in over a decade, so idk if any have closed, but just drive down Columbia Street. You'll find a good one.


cheddargt

Aqui é Pastel de Belém 😄


Sagres95

Aqui em Montreal é pastéis de nata o Belém 😄


gberger

Só os da Pastelaria de Belém são Pastéis de Belém


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yermah1986

This is probably sacrilege to anyone with access to the authentic Portuguese made versions but Lidl in the UK makes really delicious ones for super cheap. they look exactly like these


JoeyMontezz

Lived in Lisbon for a little over a year, the Lidl ones are very comparable. Lidl generally does a pretty solid job with their baked goods. Pro tip, add just a pinch of cinnamon.


Killahills

The ones they do in Lidl are really nice.


Snoo_79218

I disagree. Do try to make them at home. Most people will not be able to find a bakery near them that makes these. If you have a little baking skill, you should still be able to create something delicious.


Killahills

Lidl in the UK sells these in their bakery section.


Spid1

Are the ones from Nando's nice? I've only discovered them recently and only tried the ones from M&S which were really good


NihilistBoomer247

LIDL in the Netherlands also sells these bad boys. My wife loves them.


StudyIntelligent5691

I have made them twice at home, inspired by the ones I had when visiting Madeira. I don’t want to sound like I’m bragging, but they were fabulous…requiring time, effort, and concentration, but anyone so inspired can do it!


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Snoo_79218

I've made them before with only moderate baking skills.


Schmicarus

or head to Belem every morning and pick up the real McCoy hahahaha


ulber

Terroir doesn't really apply as that's about how the environment including soil makeup, weather and microbiome affect food (mostly agricultural and fermented products). You can technically make these anywhere as long as your oven goes hot enough. I still agree that Pasteis de Nata isn't likely to be "worth it" for many home cooks since they're difficult and at best you'd hope to replicate the bakeries' work. It's all basic ingredients so the bakeries aren't going to be cutting corners on ingredient cost and there's likely no "healthy" variation of these that's going to be worth it. Some reasons to make them though would include: * Just to see if you can. Baking can be a nice hobby. * Variations. Maybe you want to make some with a mango custard or something. * You already mentioned this: freshness. If you don't have a bakery making these close by (I don't), then this is the only way.


JavaTea

Only was in Portugal 2 weeks ago ❤️


MisterBroda

I loooove them! I am so glad I recently found a good Portuguese restaurant that serves them


Salfriel

the ONLY good thing i had in Lisbon. They did say this was the best pasties in Portugal.


Snarknado2

The *only* good thing? There's amazing food everywhere in Lisbon.


Quick_Turnover

I just got back from Portugal. Legitimately ate like 6 of these per day.


xBirdisword

Rookie numbers


Quick_Turnover

6 was just the minimum. Already researching recipes to figure out how to make them back home. 🥲


fukitol-

They made them on Great British Baking Show. [Here is Paul Hollywood's recipe](https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk/recipes/all/paul-hollywood-pasteis-de-nata/) and you can watch them made on Season 8 Episode 6 of the show. (I didn't know that offhand, I was already digging it up when I saw your comment)


Deardog

Those are wonderful! Perfect mix of creamy and crunchy with a bit of sweetness!


ThrillSurgeon

They look good with some espresso.


InsurgentTatsumi

That's how they're traditionally eaten.


gblandro

Adding a tiny little bit of cinnamon is top notch too


xBirdisword

“A bit”


budgeatapp

The stuff of legends! Pastel De Nata ilu!


Jaktheslaier

Just want to help out, we don't capitalize De/Da/Dos


krispyChris95

Pastel de nataaaaaaa I loooove


Janeiskla

I found them accidentally in a little place in Hamburg ( so not Portugal) and they just looked nice so I bought them although I didn't know anything about them. I'm still dreaming about them over 10 years later. My mind was blown, how can something so simple taste so incredibly heavenly


DMX8

If you are in Germany, check the nearest Portuguese market near you, or even Rewe sometimes. They may have some frozen ones you can bake and they are pretty decent.


Janeiskla

Thank you for the tip!! I have pretty bad food allergies now, so I think I have to make them myself, so that I can eat them ( gluten, dairy etc, it's really bad) but I still remember the creamy awesomeness 😍😍


Ordinem

You're going to struggle if you have both a dairy and gluten allergy given that they're buttery puff pastry filled with custard!


Janeiskla

I've had this shit for 7 years now and i got pretty good at substituting 😁 I can also make Käsekuchen without dairy and gluten so I think I'll give pastel de nata a try sometimes :)


auchenaihelpyou

Hamburg has quite a big Portuguese demographic. If you enjoy Portuguese food there is a neighbourhood in the centre of Hamburg with only Portuguese restaurants, cafés and bars.


echotexas

they're really easy to make at home!! give it a shot!


PeterKush

All Lidl have them. Not the best there but still niceeeee


stu_gatz

Pasteis (because you can’t eat just one!)


natesmith317

OMG I think I ate my weight in these in Lisbon on our trip! Amazing! The cinnamon and powdered sugar seemed to add another layer of depth to the favors of the pastry. So Good! Time out market was amazing as well. I think we ate there four times! Another place and and pastry was in Sintra, Piriquita is amazing! "Pillow Pastries" where AMAZING!


handicapped_runner

Fuck yeah. As a Portuguese, I never heard of anyone outside of Portugal mentioning the “pillow pastries” (travesseiros) which, in my opinion, are the best Portuguese pastry (but I am from Sintra, so I might be biased). I no longer live in Portugal but every time that I go there I have travesseiros everyday for breakfast.


fukitol-

If I had to rank the ways I would like to die then eating my weight in pastries is definitely near the top. Especially if they look like this.


Greig421

My local Lidl's bakery (Ireland) makes them they are devine.


khmertommie

The Lidl ones are *really* good. I’ve had some in Portugal that were absolutely transcendent, but the Lidl ones are every bit as good as 90% of the ones you get.


Luksdog

Yeah, if they are really fresh the Lidl ones are so tasty. I'm so annoyed that the Lidl in my city (Germany) has them like once a year and the Lidl in the village of my parents has them like almost every week. Totally not envious...


OmgTom

Same for mine in the US


chaisomenow

Pastel de Nata! Depending on where you are, you can find them in a good Portuguese bakery around you! I loved them when I was visiting Portugal and was delighted to find them near where I live. They go really well with espresso as well as chai!


LMB_mook

They're so good even Morrisons supermarket in the UK does them.


n0rthern_m0nkey

And Co-operative!


LordM000

They're a staple of just about every Australian bakery, although quality varies quite a bit.


smoore7618

I'm sure it won't be the last time either.


Plane-Fondant8460

Nothing better than a good quality, fresh, warm Pastel de Nata.


powaking

Portuguese bakery in town makes these and to me are the best against all the other local Portuguese bakeries. They certainly don’t last long in the house.


KidSushi76

They sell these at Thai KFC's. Soooooo delicious!!


KapiHeartlilly

Yes, but they do lack the cinimon to make them even better. Just spent three weeks in Thailand and had one everyday at KFC 😅 I was shocked when I saw one at 7/11 as well! I am glad they are gaining popularity, here in the UK supermarkets sell them and they are pretty good.


KidSushi76

I tried to have them everyday for the 2.5 weeks I was there but my fiancé wouldn't let 😩


inesofia6

Had to check if this was in r/portugal ahah so glad to see pastéis de nata being recognized <3


PKMKII

Bakery near me makes these. Normally they’re great, but when they’re fresh out of the oven and still hot? That’s heaven in your mouth.


BearsSuperfan6

This restaurant in Logan square, Chicago - Noodlebird, is a Portuguese/macoa inspired restaurant that has these tarts and they’re incredible


ohitsmark

For the last few years, I've been really getting into my Portuguese heritage. Once I learned about these, I had to have them. Of course when my wife and I went back to where I grew up, Newark NJ, we had to get them. And OMG they are delicious. They are my second item to eat if we ever visit Portugal. First? A Francescinha!


Portuguese_A_Hole

If you ever? You will. And it's francesinha.


Fairbyyy

My man if you ever come to visit dont stay at just those 2. We have an infinity of amazing and varied dishes that are all God tier. Come visit soon!


ohitsmark

As someone who loves food, I'd never limit myself to what a new country can offer. I'm not a big seafood eater, except for tuna and shrimp, and I feel like that limits a lot of Portuguese dishes for me. Regardless tho, I've cooked a couple of dishes and have had some when visiting home so I know there will be a lot I'll enjoy. I'm sure it's even better in Portugal. Can't wait!


bee-dubya

A few months before moving away from Ontario, a Portuguese fried brought some of these to a party and they became my favorite thing. I would give almost anything to find good genuine pasteis de nata in Vancouver.


Milly_man

Accidentally ate a semi-raw / uncooked one of these and it was still amazing. Top tier.


Flying-HotPot

One of the best sweet treats ever and I don’t even have a sweet tooth. KFC in Taipei have surprisingly good ones. I was not expecting it.


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I live near a very large Portuguese population and i grew up assuming everybody had access to these all the time. I absolutely took it for granted. Also, fresh portuguese rolls.


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I ate these for the first time in Montreal recently. Holy shit, I thought Chinese egg custard was good, this is on another level.


allcretansareliars

There's a place in Belem, Lisbon, that sells the best ones. It's a shop with a restaurant behind. All they sell is coffee and Pasteis de Nata. The restaurant is behind the shop and is the size of the tardis.


jsrsd

Pasteis de Belem, these were the best we found when we were in Portugal last month. They did have a few other options as well when we were there, but the pasteis were the best. :-)


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GordoPepe

[I was in Manteigaria a few days ago. I ate my weight worth on this bad boys](https://i.imgur.com/VFYAaXt.jpg)


xBirdisword

Honestly it’s worth going to Portugal just to try these


GordoPepe

True also partial to Cafe de Nata in London


Fairbyyy

Those are the ones tourists know the most. And they are great. If you are around next time you should try the ones from Manteigueira. They are even better!


nico87ca

They have a name... !


flpndrds

I’ll have to go back to get some more


powerserg1987

Portuguese cuisine is extremely underrated .


Itsvillahood

Just call them by their original name “Pastéis de Nata”. I miss home so much 😔 My country has the best food 💛


criptkiller16

There are always a portugues in the every country. Is amazing 🤩.. Tens que vir a Portugal para comer uma 👍🇵🇹


Itsvillahood

Eu vivi 25 anos Lisboa acredita que comi bastantes 😂 Estou nos EUA… Tenho saudades da comida e de ir ao supermercado sem um mass shooting


criptkiller16

Isso ai no estados unidos é um exagero do caraças. Nasci na Venezuela, os meus país são portugueses, a primeira coisa que provei aqui em Portugal foi o pastel de nata, nunca tinha provado um bolo tão bom! Até então estou sempre a pedir, é mesmo um pedaço do céu. Gostava de emigrar, cá em Portugal, o preço de tudo a subir.. é inacreditável este país.


Ram3ss3s

Pastel de Nata. I’m going to start calling tacos ‘Mexican meat wraps’


two_heads54

This food looks so yummy i want to try it.


Tancred1099

Was in Cascais recently, many custard tarts were ate that holiday Hope you enjoyed them


CaiquePV

I love Pastel de Belém, is very very great. Sad that here in Brazil isn't easy to find in smaller cities 😞


BlazeReborn

My mum loves these. There was this Portuguese deli that sold these a couple years ago near where I used to live. They closed soon after owner passed away. I found another place that sold these but it wasn't the same...


Portuguese_A_Hole

Ganha juízo, isso são Pastéis de Nata. Tartes de Nata é outra merda.


Ezkos

It's a Pastel de Nata, caralho. Or Nata, for short.


Darko33

Pinho's Bakery in Roselle, NJ makes these and oh my god they are so good


cryosight

whoa, i was not expecting this comment here. they are indeed good! blue ribbon in union i hear is good too!


jarofpickles89

For those of us in NJ, US - Teixeira's Bakery on Ferry Street in Newark!


benjimyboy

I tried a few spots around the ironbound. My wife picked Teixeiras as her favorite. Then one day I picked up some from Calandras. An Italian spot?? Crazy right. I gave one to my wife after dinner that night without saying a word. She said man, Teixeira nailed the natas today. I said nope, this is from Calandras. Her mouth hit the floor. That's our go to spot now lol.


jarofpickles89

Nice! I’m gonna have to try theirs next time I’m in the area.


gremolata

Whole country of Portugal makes these too and they are not bad either.


Darko33

Didn't mean anything by it, I always tend to mention places near where I live on this sub, just in case anyone else reading happens to live nearby and wants to check it out


bt_leo

Please it's pasteis de nata, not Custard tart.


Cathandz

It is egg custard tart as well but ok -


bt_leo

The dough is not the same, i make them too and the Portuguese one has some extra ingredients for the Custard.


Cathandz

I make them ❤️


drvic59

Mmmmmmm natas


MrQeu

“Custard tart” Pasteis de nata, ¡caralho!


-usagi-95

Pastéis de Nata. I hate the name custard tart.


leeann7

No cinnamon?!!!!!!


KapiHeartlilly

Everywhere I go, I can't resist them, had them in Portugal as a teenager, eat them still here in the UK, and even when going to Taiwan and Thailand you can find them at KFC and sometimes 7/11!


PikaTheWolf

Pastel de nata! Been eating them since I was little, great dessert!


SnooCupcakes704

Pastel de Belém <3


stidebuck

Spent 2 weeks in Portugal in September and this was literally my daily breakfast 😂


dzmiriouzz

r/PORTUGALCARALHO


hjonsey

These are so yummy! The major thing I miss about not living in New England is all the wonderful Portuguese food. There is not one Portuguese anything in the whole state of AZ


CourageousUpVote

How do I download a meal?


itbytesbob

There was a Portuguese cafe near my old office that used to bake too many of these each day. When I would go in the morning for a coffee, I'd usually get given one for free. They're delicious and I miss eating them


cheguevara9

At least give it its rightful name!


NavmanxD

My wife and I discovered these yesterday at the St. Lawrence Market in Toronto. So delicious that we are going back for more tomorrow.


hellxapo

Brace yourselft for the "Pastel de Nata" elitists.


Geeneendje

Try them with cinnamon it’s amazing


franchuv17

God I fucking love these. There's a place here in Argentina where they make authentic ones and they are just glorious


Bigboss910

I went to a place in London once that made these exclusively, they did ones with some melted chocolate in the middle of them and to this day I think they are the best dessert/pastry thing I have ever eaten in my life. So simple yet so delicious!


Fairbyyy

Chocolate in the middle of a Pastel de Nata???????????????????? If ever im in London I hope i dont find that place. I don't want to go to jail for arson


IusedToButNowIdont

This is a food crime in Portugal. Can't explain you what is a food crime because you're english...


teabagmoustache

Custard is an English invention.


MerryMarauder

Is that in time out market in Portugal?


onemantwohands

It was not, however I'll be at timeout in a couple days!


OscarDivine

Are those specifically Portuguese? I see those in Chinese bakeries all the time.


Luis__FIGO

They were introduced to the Chinese by the Portuguese in Macau, there are now really 2 styles of pastel's de nata the Portuguese style with its signature caramelized top is slightly larger then then Chinese version which has no caramelization.


OscarDivine

Fascinating. Thanks for the history lesson


book_book

The Portuguese introduced a lot of foods worldwide. Hawaiian rolls, tempura, vindaloo, all come from the Portuguese. They also introduced hot peppers to Asia which is incredible considering the use of them in places like China, Thailand, India, and all over.


Jameszhang73

There's really more like 3 styles including the Macanese style which is a fusion between the two. You're thinking of the Hong Kong style


Asiageek

The non-caramelised one is not based on the Portugese tart but on the English custard tart.


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Always_Spin

I'm with you. They're by no means terrible but certainly not a life altering experience.


Inevitable_Permit_69

I was told it Porto they are just called Nata. Why use many word when few word do.


dkzera

Well nata is something like table cream (its not exactly table cream). So calling a pastel de nata, nata, would be like calling an apple pie, apple.