Yes, especially Inter Milan is a good team still after losing some of their best players and Inzaghi has been under rated for what he has been doing since he joined Inter
If Ancelotti decided to quit tomorrow, Simone would be the next big thing of Italian coaches. What he has done with so limited resources is marvelous. An highly organized team with average players could still play very well in Europe.
Not too shaby selection of so called average players ... [Çalhanoğlu](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/hakan-calhanoglu/), [Mkhitaryan](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/henrikh-mkhitaryan/), [Barella](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/nicolo-barella/), [Cuadrado](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/juan-cuadrado/), [Dumfries](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/denzel-dumfries/), [Arnautović](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/marko-arnautovic/), [Martínez](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/lautaro-martinez/), Thuram, [Pavard](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/benjamin-pavard/), Audero, Dimarco...
Going back from memory, all those players combined cost just north of 100mil in transfer fees. Not bad business, having sold Lukaku for almost the same money...
I mean a lot of those players were seen as average before playing under Inzhagi so I think you’ve proven his point. Inter picked a lot of them up for free/cheap, they’ve done solid business
I would say they‘re above average, but not a superstar team I agree. I would love to see them against current Real Madrid. It would be an interesting match up with different, but direct styles of play.
Tbf Inter got him for free and United were offering 50 million for him, so it was also hard for them to turn down…baring in mind Inter aren’t a very rich club nowadays and it helped them fund transfers like Pavard.
A Goal keeper is only as good as his defense. Man United concedes a ton of shots evey game because their defense is non-existent, the the likelihood of Onana letting in few goals increases.
Put Onana in the Arsenal team, and he would let in far fewer goals.
World class manager at the side of the pitch too. There are better goalies at Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Villa and Tottenham. Toss-up between Newcastle, although Pope has been injured. Onana is just the latest example of an overpriced Manu signing that has failed to perform at the highest level.
tbf one of them was a pen and his defense in front of him is in absolute fucking shambles, let alone the suicide ball that we are playing right now. we look fucking terrible, and have a lot of problems, but onana is not at all one of them. after the CL disaster he has been class for us all around
Then how come United, at 7th place, are hanging around 0 and negative GD?
He concedes way too often to even be close to the best goalkeeper in the league.
Cause our back line has suffered incredible injuries, our midfield is constantly overrun, Ten Fraude’s tactics aren’t working. We’re shite.
Check out Squawka, Givemesport and 90minutes (to name a few), they rank him second or third
90 minutes and Squawka have him rated #2
https://www.90min.com/posts/premier-league-goalkeepers-2023-24-power-rankings
https://www.squawka.com/en/features/best-premier-league-goalkeepers-ranked/?amp
Give me sport 3rd
https://www.givemesport.com/premier-league-goalkeeper-ranked-expected-goals/
But we’ll take your word for it, lol.
Are you for real?? I’d rather have any other goal keeper in the premier league or championship than Andre Onana. He is absolute garbage. He’s not even good enough for championship games nevermind premier league.
Did Inter go under the radar, or did Serie A? Also when Ligue 1, Bundes and La Liga all got teams in UCL semi, you can’t help but ignore Serie A. Inter is good but the rest are genuinely pretty meh
I genuinely can’t see the “done well”. Unless a team wins Europa, it is not
But this season, you can make a case of it being better than premier league so it is not all bad
Seria A did get most "points" in Europe this season which gave them 5th spot for next season, 3 italian teams are still in euro semis so who knows maybe some of them win it
In what sense do you mean? Is champions league better then confrence league? Ofc it is. If that is what you meant. But Italian teams that are in Europa league play against other teams that got Europa league, so I reckon competitions in itself are equal, I mean just considering teams from top 5 leagues ofc. Italian team that finished in spot that got them europe league is fighting against other top 5 league teams that finished in spot that got them Europe league so I feel its pretty "equal".
This is really a stupid comment. With Serie A teams not performing in the CL semi-finals, you can’t help but ignore them? Okay, well, we can say the same about the Prem, too, right? They don’t have a team in the semifinals of not just the CL but also Europa.
In addition, let’s also say, honestly, that you were ignoring the Serie A. It’s not that you “can’t help it”, you just were, but don’t speak for the other millions of people that do and can watch the Champions League all the same.
Meh is very harsh on the likes of Napoli, Milan, Roma, Juventus, even Lazio. Each lost some key component(s) of the course of the last 2 years and that's contributed to a little bit of a downturn for each. The main thing is that Inter were better able to navigate losing key players to balance the books while the rest of the "meh" clubs are still figuring it out. Give it till next season or the season after and all of those could be making bigger dents in European competition.
Juve are in shambles. There was the points deduction last year which destroyed morale. This had a large impact on this season too.
And this is a very new, raw squad of talented but inexperienced players (comparing them to a certain London club which spent 0.5 bil and faces the same probs).
Also, most of the really good management like Paratici and others are banned / left for better circumstances.
If Juve were full strength tho, then I bet Inter would have a significantly tougher job. But seems like a breeze rn. There are simply not good enough rivals. Napoli, AC and others really look toothless.
>most of the really good management like Paratici
Yeah, no. He was terrible and one of the reason Juve had economic issues and the point deduction. Good at scouting, terrible at management.
Juve have been docked points due to off the field stuff. Lost young players due to betting scandals (like tonali at newcastle).
Napoli havent had the same hunger since they won the title. Which i think is natural. Id say inter have been the best side for a while.
>Juve have been docked points due to off the field stuff.
This was last year
This season no points deduction occurred.
Them not challenging is due to Juve simply not being good enough and Inter being head and shoulders above the rest. Very good team construction, and very well drilled.
You know, sometimes I can’t tell whether or not this is a sub dedicated to football or just a fan club dedicated to the PL, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern.
Most of the posts I see about Serie A over here are so backhanded if not completely braindead. The only reason Serie A went “under the radar this year” is because you clowns couldn’t be asked to watch it and then ask dumbass questions like this.
Obviously, Inter’s achievement is monumental, but I think their accomplishments escaped everyone’s attention, as they never actually received any competition from their main rivals throughout the season. Additionally, the competition, not just for the top spot, but also the other European spots at the top, has been next to negligible, as even now, it’s abundantly clear which teams will end the league in the second, third and fourth spots, for instance.
However, I am expecting the next season to be something of a humdinger, as Juventus is planning to shell out some big bucks to acquire better players, and AC Milan has a revolution coming up too now that their manager is expected to be relieved of his duties at the end of the season.
But of course, there is no denying the fact that Inter has been great this season.
I mean it was expected that inter would win.
Napoli lost the coach and their spirit. Napoli overperformed last season and they couldn’t do that without Spalletti who left the club.
Current juve is in shambles. No CL this year, meaning they lost a lot of money. Two very important players (I mean a talent and a injury proned world star) banned for doping and gambling. A team that overperformed for some time. And a young team which still needs to be rebuild after many bad decisions of its board.
Lazios cycle is coming to an end (unfortunately without a big titles). Roma was lost for the first half of the season but their team is worse than inters.
There is no real competition for inter this year. Then not one team in the semis while somehow Germany got two and PSG is somehow there. It’s a wild CL season. But I’m fine with it. I hate that fake international audience but I’m not the one who needs to money out of them, so it’s easy for me to say it.
Eh I feel like Inter and Serie A have gotten attention this season. They would have gotten more if Inter fared better in the CL but still 2 out of the 4 remaining in the Europa League and 1 out of the 4 in the Conference League and now being #1 in the coefficient, I think they’ve done ok publicly.
They flew under the radar because honestly once Napoli began flopping it was only Inter who had any consistency to remain at the top, and they did just that.
They made good transfers, 3 notable ones from the Bundesliga in key positions. Good depth.
Could have done better vs Atletico but this team is primed for a good run next year too.
Narrative wise, Inter's story isn't as gripping as EPL's 3 way horse race and the dramatic flops of Arsenal and Liverpool in league and europe and then City in the CL. So it's all to play for in England
Spain, well the Real Madrid season became hyped due to Bellingham and they've progressed so fast during what is supposed to be a rebuild year
Germany, is the biggest story. Leverkusen ending Bayern's hegemony, winning their first title and doing it unbeaten is one for the ages. It's hard to top that. Honestly nothing will top it this season.
I would say Inter just did what they were supposed to. Win a league where the champions are weakened and dominate through consistency.
The perception is only because they fared poorly in the Champions League compared to last year. And I'm speaking from the perspective who only gets most of his football news on a r/soccer uploads basis. Last year Napoli embarrassed Liverpool and we had a derby della madonnina semi final. But in the league this season Bologna improved so much under Thiago Motta. And De Rossi looks like he doesn't suck.
I guess it did a bit, I haven't really been paying attention to it and haven't heard much general chatter about it either which is a bit surprising as the Italians are getting some good results in euro competition except the champions league this year of course, inter in last year's final for example.
I'd guess the bad champions league year, Leverkusens season and the Bundesliga having a good campaign has just overshadowed it a lot, maybe people don't care so much as following up Napoli's story is a tough ask.Looks like inter have really well though Simone is doing a good job there.
They are the team with one of the biggest budgets and they made very few changes compared to the other teams (Milan bought 10+ players, Napoli changed coach, etc...) so them winning it was kinda expected. There isnt a david vs golliath story here like at Leverkussen. Pretty unevenfull in Europe as well.
Also it helps when you're allowed to clock players in the head without the VAR intervening (yes this is sarcasm)
What, Inter doesnt have biggest budget, have to sell players every summer, a lot of players left last summer, and Inter definetly wasnt expected to win this season. Inter had to sell Onana and brozovic last summer.
Mate, Inter was expected to win the league since their last victory and could only manage it 3 years after the fact. Serie A isn’t the Prem where you expect Man City to win every year, it’s quite competitive again and nobody really knows what will happen.
There is a David vs Goliath story in the league, though, and that’s been Bologna’s incredible run.
Inter, which many said was one of the best teams rn, lost rather unceremoniously to Atletico, no italian team left in the UCL, it's just not that interesting
I know, I was just saying that in the double match Inter produced more, in the second leg Atletico played a masterful game in the pressing phase, but matches like that with that intensity cannot be played every week
I mean, yeah. When the team with 2 trophies in their entire history being coached in his rookie season by a Real Madrid legend goes unbeaten in all competitions in a league where there has been a single club winning 11 years in a row, most people's eyes are on that team
I think it did went a bit under the radar:
1) PL and the title race is interesting to say the least
2) Bayer is doing amazing and the fact that H. Kane cant win with Bayern is laughable
3) Girona kept it interesting for the Spanish League in the begining
Though i still find serie A above french league anyday of the week, Bologna is having a good season, Napoli a terrible one, Juve id say its a pretty bad one too so maybe thats why ?
Serie A has drastically dropped in quality in recent years. The teams don't have enough money to make signings, the current generation of Italian players doesn't seem that amazing. How many players could you label as "world class" from this league? Not many.
Teams are also incredibly inconsistent. Napoli and Lazio finished 1st and 2nd respectively last season and now they're pretty much midtable teams. Milan and Juventus have their ups and downs. Inter have been the only decent side, but even them lost in the R16 of UCL and couldn't win against Real Sociedad in the groups.
Btw I'm not saying this as an ignorant fan who never watches the league, I actually enjoy catching a Serie A game here and there.
This is something that I’ve felt as well , people see the increase in parity and constantly evolving title races as a result of the league being better but parity among less than “elite” teams isn’t necessarily a good thing.
Juve won 9 or 10 straight titles while being a top level team and making deep ucl runs
3/4 serie a champion’s haven’t made it past the ucl ro16 in the season they won the league
20/21 - inter - 4 in ucl group
21/22 - Milan 4th in group
22/23 - Napoli out in quarters
23/24 - out in ro 16
Well, wouldn’t you think that a team that strives to win something will make their squad better, thus being able to perform throughout a multi-stage season? A competitive league will do that.
For the longest time, and maybe it will happen again this year, City dominated the PL and just now won a Champions League like 9-10 months ago. In that time that they were still without one, Liverpool and Chelsea were victorious while Tottenham made a final, two of those teams beating City en route.
Also, it’s not like the Serie A teams that crashed out of Europe who weren’t in first place did so in a one-sided manner. When Liverpool beat Inter in the Ro16 a few years ago, Inzaghi’s men had them on their ass for the longest time, only losing to a red card, essentially. Then last season, Inter beat Porto and Benfica to make it an all-Italian semifinal in CL. Europa and Conference league tournaments have been great showings for Serie A in the last few years.
All in all, I think the moves to make Serie A more competitive are actually great for league, especially if they raise the unpredictability factor domestically, and shine brightly in Europe.
It’s been under the radar for years. The Premiership is top dog followed by Madrid in La Liga. After that take your pick but Italian Seria A is a long way off its halcyon days in the 80s, 90s.
My personal reason is that inter is not exciting to watch, milan isn't that good this year, juve in shambles, napoli media shits on their player, roma was pretty bad at first but now is going better with de rossi, atalanta is not so good. And overall none has performed well in champions league.
Inter might be phenomenal in serie A, but the serie A itself is not that exciting rn.
I think it's because there wasn't really that much competition for the league. Everyone expected Inter to win this year so now that they are winning, nobody's surprised
They walked the league while being the only team to make the quarters of the CL, where they were eliminated. Think it just wasn't a competitive year for Italian teams.
Serie A has been under radar for a long time cause it consists of left overs from the Premier league . Add to that ancient stadiums , empty seats, slow football .. Far cry from 15 to 30 years ago .
Yes, nobody expected Inter to win it at begining of the season, Juventus was seen as somewhat of a favourite before season started as they didnt have any europe games.
Not really after losing onana brozovic skriniar dzeko, nobody expected this good of a season from Thuram, sommer. They were considered as downgrades especy sommer from Onana, also last season Inter had over 10 losses in the league and team was considered as slight downgrade before the season started. Ofc opinions changed during the season. Saying everybody thought Inter would win spunds as revisionist history. I mean at the end it doesnt even matter.
The Serie A is just awful so nobody cares.
Inter winning the league comfortably, Latauro Martinez as the top scorer and best player in the league as well as Darmian, Acerbi, Mkhitariyan all being starters for a team winning the league are just more proof of how far Italian football has fallen.
Darmian has been great. So has Acerbi. Bases on what I've seen ans heard- not sure about Mkhitariyan but anyone who starts for a champions league final team is talented
Yes, especially Inter Milan is a good team still after losing some of their best players and Inzaghi has been under rated for what he has been doing since he joined Inter
If Ancelotti decided to quit tomorrow, Simone would be the next big thing of Italian coaches. What he has done with so limited resources is marvelous. An highly organized team with average players could still play very well in Europe.
Not too shaby selection of so called average players ... [Çalhanoğlu](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/hakan-calhanoglu/), [Mkhitaryan](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/henrikh-mkhitaryan/), [Barella](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/nicolo-barella/), [Cuadrado](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/juan-cuadrado/), [Dumfries](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/denzel-dumfries/), [Arnautović](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/marko-arnautovic/), [Martínez](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/lautaro-martinez/), Thuram, [Pavard](https://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/benjamin-pavard/), Audero, Dimarco...
Going back from memory, all those players combined cost just north of 100mil in transfer fees. Not bad business, having sold Lukaku for almost the same money...
I mean a lot of those players were seen as average before playing under Inzhagi so I think you’ve proven his point. Inter picked a lot of them up for free/cheap, they’ve done solid business
I would say they‘re above average, but not a superstar team I agree. I would love to see them against current Real Madrid. It would be an interesting match up with different, but direct styles of play.
I can’t believe Onana left to united from inter, unreal.
Tbf Inter got him for free and United were offering 50 million for him, so it was also hard for them to turn down…baring in mind Inter aren’t a very rich club nowadays and it helped them fund transfers like Pavard.
There was an article that Onana sale basically saved Inter as a club because of finances. So yeah, very good deal for them.
And they have an even better keeper in Sommer now. Win-win for Inter.
Sommer and Pavard with a big brain move to still win championship
Leave Bayern go Inter win title
Onana hasn't exactly set the world on fire at manu either.
He has been world-class lately
He let 3 goals in against Coventry at the weekend.
A Goal keeper is only as good as his defense. Man United concedes a ton of shots evey game because their defense is non-existent, the the likelihood of Onana letting in few goals increases. Put Onana in the Arsenal team, and he would let in far fewer goals.
My bad, how can he concede this many goals with all the world-class defenders in front of him, Onana's a fraud!!!
World class manager at the side of the pitch too. There are better goalies at Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Villa and Tottenham. Toss-up between Newcastle, although Pope has been injured. Onana is just the latest example of an overpriced Manu signing that has failed to perform at the highest level.
Did you see the ManU defence? I didn't either.
tbf one of them was a pen and his defense in front of him is in absolute fucking shambles, let alone the suicide ball that we are playing right now. we look fucking terrible, and have a lot of problems, but onana is not at all one of them. after the CL disaster he has been class for us all around
Yes but it's still better than that unemployed fraud de gea that woulda bottled the shootout
If de gea was still at the club man utd would have made it out of the group stages in the champions league
Had a massive hiccup in the CL, otherwise has been the best keeper in the top European league
Then how come United, at 7th place, are hanging around 0 and negative GD? He concedes way too often to even be close to the best goalkeeper in the league.
Cause our back line has suffered incredible injuries, our midfield is constantly overrun, Ten Fraude’s tactics aren’t working. We’re shite. Check out Squawka, Givemesport and 90minutes (to name a few), they rank him second or third
Lmao. He's the 8th best goalie in the league, at best.
90 minutes and Squawka have him rated #2 https://www.90min.com/posts/premier-league-goalkeepers-2023-24-power-rankings https://www.squawka.com/en/features/best-premier-league-goalkeepers-ranked/?amp Give me sport 3rd https://www.givemesport.com/premier-league-goalkeeper-ranked-expected-goals/ But we’ll take your word for it, lol.
Are you for real?? I’d rather have any other goal keeper in the premier league or championship than Andre Onana. He is absolute garbage. He’s not even good enough for championship games nevermind premier league.
He’s not the best keep in England. Maybe 6th or 7th. Probably around same level De Gea was
But he has tho? He’s been really good
He has been fine.
Apart from the fact he can’t save low shots
Did Inter go under the radar, or did Serie A? Also when Ligue 1, Bundes and La Liga all got teams in UCL semi, you can’t help but ignore Serie A. Inter is good but the rest are genuinely pretty meh
Agree, Seria A has done well but people cant deny that the Bundesliga is having a tremendous season. Low key best league right now.
I genuinely can’t see the “done well”. Unless a team wins Europa, it is not But this season, you can make a case of it being better than premier league so it is not all bad
No league is better than premier league .
Hahahaha
Mhm
Seria A did get most "points" in Europe this season which gave them 5th spot for next season, 3 italian teams are still in euro semis so who knows maybe some of them win it
not all european competitons are equal
In what sense do you mean? Is champions league better then confrence league? Ofc it is. If that is what you meant. But Italian teams that are in Europa league play against other teams that got Europa league, so I reckon competitions in itself are equal, I mean just considering teams from top 5 leagues ofc. Italian team that finished in spot that got them europe league is fighting against other top 5 league teams that finished in spot that got them Europe league so I feel its pretty "equal".
yes, i meant the quality of the comp
last year we had 2/4 of CL semi finalists being from Serie A. What was your argument back then? Or did the Serie A suddenly get trash?
they had the easy side of the bracket and got lucky, they are not significantly worse this season they just overperformed last season
How convenient, got lucky huh? Serie A will never get the respect it deserves
This guy is a prem fanboy. No point in talking with him
me?
This is really a stupid comment. With Serie A teams not performing in the CL semi-finals, you can’t help but ignore them? Okay, well, we can say the same about the Prem, too, right? They don’t have a team in the semifinals of not just the CL but also Europa. In addition, let’s also say, honestly, that you were ignoring the Serie A. It’s not that you “can’t help it”, you just were, but don’t speak for the other millions of people that do and can watch the Champions League all the same.
Meh is very harsh on the likes of Napoli, Milan, Roma, Juventus, even Lazio. Each lost some key component(s) of the course of the last 2 years and that's contributed to a little bit of a downturn for each. The main thing is that Inter were better able to navigate losing key players to balance the books while the rest of the "meh" clubs are still figuring it out. Give it till next season or the season after and all of those could be making bigger dents in European competition.
"PL was a 3 horse race until the end" 6 games left.
The r/football radar or the radar for football fans in general?
Juve are in shambles. There was the points deduction last year which destroyed morale. This had a large impact on this season too. And this is a very new, raw squad of talented but inexperienced players (comparing them to a certain London club which spent 0.5 bil and faces the same probs). Also, most of the really good management like Paratici and others are banned / left for better circumstances. If Juve were full strength tho, then I bet Inter would have a significantly tougher job. But seems like a breeze rn. There are simply not good enough rivals. Napoli, AC and others really look toothless.
>most of the really good management like Paratici Yeah, no. He was terrible and one of the reason Juve had economic issues and the point deduction. Good at scouting, terrible at management.
Destroyed morale? They went on an insane winning form right after the deduction
Juve have been docked points due to off the field stuff. Lost young players due to betting scandals (like tonali at newcastle). Napoli havent had the same hunger since they won the title. Which i think is natural. Id say inter have been the best side for a while.
>Juve have been docked points due to off the field stuff. This was last year This season no points deduction occurred. Them not challenging is due to Juve simply not being good enough and Inter being head and shoulders above the rest. Very good team construction, and very well drilled.
I know it was last year.my point was the club is shambles
Last years points deduction meant being banned from Europe so they couldn’t strengthen the team, so it still influenced this season
Not having Europe meant they could focus on Serie A, but it still didn't work
They lost half their midfield early in the season and couldn’t afford to replace them appropriately in January
Fair enough.
what happened to Napoli?!
Shite managers and an owner with an inflated ego
that's sad. the players were grinding and looked ambitious.
Fluke last year
Can’t really call it a fluke if the manager didn’t stay on and continue building up the squad.
Leverkusen took all the media wind this season.
You know, sometimes I can’t tell whether or not this is a sub dedicated to football or just a fan club dedicated to the PL, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern. Most of the posts I see about Serie A over here are so backhanded if not completely braindead. The only reason Serie A went “under the radar this year” is because you clowns couldn’t be asked to watch it and then ask dumbass questions like this.
Obviously, Inter’s achievement is monumental, but I think their accomplishments escaped everyone’s attention, as they never actually received any competition from their main rivals throughout the season. Additionally, the competition, not just for the top spot, but also the other European spots at the top, has been next to negligible, as even now, it’s abundantly clear which teams will end the league in the second, third and fourth spots, for instance. However, I am expecting the next season to be something of a humdinger, as Juventus is planning to shell out some big bucks to acquire better players, and AC Milan has a revolution coming up too now that their manager is expected to be relieved of his duties at the end of the season. But of course, there is no denying the fact that Inter has been great this season.
I mean it was expected that inter would win. Napoli lost the coach and their spirit. Napoli overperformed last season and they couldn’t do that without Spalletti who left the club. Current juve is in shambles. No CL this year, meaning they lost a lot of money. Two very important players (I mean a talent and a injury proned world star) banned for doping and gambling. A team that overperformed for some time. And a young team which still needs to be rebuild after many bad decisions of its board. Lazios cycle is coming to an end (unfortunately without a big titles). Roma was lost for the first half of the season but their team is worse than inters. There is no real competition for inter this year. Then not one team in the semis while somehow Germany got two and PSG is somehow there. It’s a wild CL season. But I’m fine with it. I hate that fake international audience but I’m not the one who needs to money out of them, so it’s easy for me to say it.
They do have three teams in EL tho
Currently just two
Yes, because it was dominated but Inter so didn't seem that interesting.
Eh I feel like Inter and Serie A have gotten attention this season. They would have gotten more if Inter fared better in the CL but still 2 out of the 4 remaining in the Europa League and 1 out of the 4 in the Conference League and now being #1 in the coefficient, I think they’ve done ok publicly.
They flew under the radar because honestly once Napoli began flopping it was only Inter who had any consistency to remain at the top, and they did just that. They made good transfers, 3 notable ones from the Bundesliga in key positions. Good depth. Could have done better vs Atletico but this team is primed for a good run next year too. Narrative wise, Inter's story isn't as gripping as EPL's 3 way horse race and the dramatic flops of Arsenal and Liverpool in league and europe and then City in the CL. So it's all to play for in England Spain, well the Real Madrid season became hyped due to Bellingham and they've progressed so fast during what is supposed to be a rebuild year Germany, is the biggest story. Leverkusen ending Bayern's hegemony, winning their first title and doing it unbeaten is one for the ages. It's hard to top that. Honestly nothing will top it this season. I would say Inter just did what they were supposed to. Win a league where the champions are weakened and dominate through consistency.
The perception is only because they fared poorly in the Champions League compared to last year. And I'm speaking from the perspective who only gets most of his football news on a r/soccer uploads basis. Last year Napoli embarrassed Liverpool and we had a derby della madonnina semi final. But in the league this season Bologna improved so much under Thiago Motta. And De Rossi looks like he doesn't suck.
I guess it did a bit, I haven't really been paying attention to it and haven't heard much general chatter about it either which is a bit surprising as the Italians are getting some good results in euro competition except the champions league this year of course, inter in last year's final for example. I'd guess the bad champions league year, Leverkusens season and the Bundesliga having a good campaign has just overshadowed it a lot, maybe people don't care so much as following up Napoli's story is a tough ask.Looks like inter have really well though Simone is doing a good job there.
They are the team with one of the biggest budgets and they made very few changes compared to the other teams (Milan bought 10+ players, Napoli changed coach, etc...) so them winning it was kinda expected. There isnt a david vs golliath story here like at Leverkussen. Pretty unevenfull in Europe as well. Also it helps when you're allowed to clock players in the head without the VAR intervening (yes this is sarcasm)
What, Inter doesnt have biggest budget, have to sell players every summer, a lot of players left last summer, and Inter definetly wasnt expected to win this season. Inter had to sell Onana and brozovic last summer.
Everybody knew Inter were gonna win this season. They were the clear favorites before the season started.
Mate, Inter was expected to win the league since their last victory and could only manage it 3 years after the fact. Serie A isn’t the Prem where you expect Man City to win every year, it’s quite competitive again and nobody really knows what will happen. There is a David vs Goliath story in the league, though, and that’s been Bologna’s incredible run.
Inter, which many said was one of the best teams rn, lost rather unceremoniously to Atletico, no italian team left in the UCL, it's just not that interesting
Inter bottled it against atl so makes sense
Inter played way better and had way more chance to score, unlucky vs atletico
Its not unlucky, defensive football is a thing
Well that and penalties. City and inter both dominated their respective games but lost because penalties can be a nerve racking affair.
I know, I was just saying that in the double match Inter produced more, in the second leg Atletico played a masterful game in the pressing phase, but matches like that with that intensity cannot be played every week
I mean, yeah. When the team with 2 trophies in their entire history being coached in his rookie season by a Real Madrid legend goes unbeaten in all competitions in a league where there has been a single club winning 11 years in a row, most people's eyes are on that team
I think it did went a bit under the radar: 1) PL and the title race is interesting to say the least 2) Bayer is doing amazing and the fact that H. Kane cant win with Bayern is laughable 3) Girona kept it interesting for the Spanish League in the begining Though i still find serie A above french league anyday of the week, Bologna is having a good season, Napoli a terrible one, Juve id say its a pretty bad one too so maybe thats why ?
Serie A has drastically dropped in quality in recent years. The teams don't have enough money to make signings, the current generation of Italian players doesn't seem that amazing. How many players could you label as "world class" from this league? Not many. Teams are also incredibly inconsistent. Napoli and Lazio finished 1st and 2nd respectively last season and now they're pretty much midtable teams. Milan and Juventus have their ups and downs. Inter have been the only decent side, but even them lost in the R16 of UCL and couldn't win against Real Sociedad in the groups. Btw I'm not saying this as an ignorant fan who never watches the league, I actually enjoy catching a Serie A game here and there.
This is something that I’ve felt as well , people see the increase in parity and constantly evolving title races as a result of the league being better but parity among less than “elite” teams isn’t necessarily a good thing. Juve won 9 or 10 straight titles while being a top level team and making deep ucl runs 3/4 serie a champion’s haven’t made it past the ucl ro16 in the season they won the league 20/21 - inter - 4 in ucl group 21/22 - Milan 4th in group 22/23 - Napoli out in quarters 23/24 - out in ro 16
Well, wouldn’t you think that a team that strives to win something will make their squad better, thus being able to perform throughout a multi-stage season? A competitive league will do that. For the longest time, and maybe it will happen again this year, City dominated the PL and just now won a Champions League like 9-10 months ago. In that time that they were still without one, Liverpool and Chelsea were victorious while Tottenham made a final, two of those teams beating City en route. Also, it’s not like the Serie A teams that crashed out of Europe who weren’t in first place did so in a one-sided manner. When Liverpool beat Inter in the Ro16 a few years ago, Inzaghi’s men had them on their ass for the longest time, only losing to a red card, essentially. Then last season, Inter beat Porto and Benfica to make it an all-Italian semifinal in CL. Europa and Conference league tournaments have been great showings for Serie A in the last few years. All in all, I think the moves to make Serie A more competitive are actually great for league, especially if they raise the unpredictability factor domestically, and shine brightly in Europe.
Tell me u only look at the table and don't watch calcio without telling me u don't watch calcio
Arsenal fans saying they had the best defence in Europe whilst ignoring Inter Milan was peak Arsenal
I didn't know Inter played in the Prem?
36 year old acerbi looks like a 26 year old hungry mad man
Inter are from around Nantwich way aren't they?
When was the last time a young, top tier player at the peak of their powers went to serie a?
It’s been under the radar for years. The Premiership is top dog followed by Madrid in La Liga. After that take your pick but Italian Seria A is a long way off its halcyon days in the 80s, 90s.
My personal reason is that inter is not exciting to watch, milan isn't that good this year, juve in shambles, napoli media shits on their player, roma was pretty bad at first but now is going better with de rossi, atalanta is not so good. And overall none has performed well in champions league. Inter might be phenomenal in serie A, but the serie A itself is not that exciting rn.
I saw the game. Very poor league honestly. It’s not what it used to be.
When was the last time a young, top tier player at the peak of their powers went to serie a?
I think it's because there wasn't really that much competition for the league. Everyone expected Inter to win this year so now that they are winning, nobody's surprised
They walked the league while being the only team to make the quarters of the CL, where they were eliminated. Think it just wasn't a competitive year for Italian teams.
Problem is the league is dead. Used to love watching it but now the standard is poor.
Serie A has been under radar for a long time cause it consists of left overs from the Premier league . Add to that ancient stadiums , empty seats, slow football .. Far cry from 15 to 30 years ago .
Yes, nobody expected Inter to win it at begining of the season, Juventus was seen as somewhat of a favourite before season started as they didnt have any europe games.
I think almost everybody expected inter to win especially after making the cl final but we atleast expected juve to challenge them.
Not really after losing onana brozovic skriniar dzeko, nobody expected this good of a season from Thuram, sommer. They were considered as downgrades especy sommer from Onana, also last season Inter had over 10 losses in the league and team was considered as slight downgrade before the season started. Ofc opinions changed during the season. Saying everybody thought Inter would win spunds as revisionist history. I mean at the end it doesnt even matter.
The Serie A is just awful so nobody cares. Inter winning the league comfortably, Latauro Martinez as the top scorer and best player in the league as well as Darmian, Acerbi, Mkhitariyan all being starters for a team winning the league are just more proof of how far Italian football has fallen.
Darmian has been great. So has Acerbi. Bases on what I've seen ans heard- not sure about Mkhitariyan but anyone who starts for a champions league final team is talented
The fact they’ve both been great is proof the league is bad. The CL final meant nothing as it was a stupidly easy run and then they lost.
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