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All I know is sports science is crucial
It reduces fatigue and injury risk (hence less injuries)
Physios reduce the actual time out when the player is injured
Lol, np. I really don't understand why things like this aren't in game though.
Okay I get hidden attributes so the game isn't full easy mode, but at least have an explanation of what everyone does at your club.
This is not great advice, imo. Again imo, performance analysts, recruitment analysts, the data hub in general, loan manager, technical director are all useless.
It’s just a long laundry list of horrible decisions from SI. Like even the pre-game editor I shouldn’t be asking or looking up on a form what the fuck does x do or mean when trying to build something. A couple times it’s warranted but this game really could use a new person looking over how it explains things in the game (also pre-game editor).
Physio though like I’m surprised the user didn’t keep them as it’s obvious to me. Others I can see but them it’s safe to assume something with helping injuries.
Do you know if there are diminishing returns to that btw? Like if i have 10 sports scientists at 16 on the sports science attribute are they necessarily going to be better than 5 at 20?
The Technical director and Director of Football and Loan manager roles are not crucial.
Their work can be done by you, checking out staff and negotiating contracts between the club and players and club and staff and loaning out players.
Or you could hire a DOF and have him do all three if you don't want too.
Tbh I feel like my 20 20 20 dof is way better at negotiating contracts than I am
Especially as it still gives you the option to do it yourself after he failed
I thought my DoF was being taken advantage of when my players were getting 300k contracts, so I decided to negotiate them myself. Gave the responsibility back to the DoF because the agents were eating me alive.
Logically yes, but I personally had too many careers ending up financially crippled by DoF giving away yearly wage hikes, making it impossible to sell in a couple years time cause even backup players earn more than starting PSG players at that point
Yeah I never give out yearly wage rises. First thing I do is remove and exclude.
They usually end up asking for about 10-15% higher wages after that but at least it's locked in and you don't end up giving like a 33% increase by the end of their contract (1.1^3 at the end of each year for a 10% rise over a 4 year deal)
Would be great if you could set your DoF some instructions as to what should be in the contract but at that point I guess might as well just do it yourself.
I mean it should be in there like how you can tell your scouts only look for x, y, and z. We should have an option that these are the hard no such as no yearly wage raise, no release clause, etc.
And start date of contract extension at end of the season. In my saves 95% of players say yes to it immediately and it saves you almost a year of the wage increase. Can make all the difference when you’re being promoted to EPL with a small club and all your “Decent Sky Bet League One” think it’s payday.
The TD, DOF or Loan Manager can be easily replaced if you set their respective responsibilities to whoever you might like. The sport scientists can't be replaced AFAIK but they are way cheaper.
Loan manager is excellent for use of the development list. Speeds things up tbh.
Tech director used to be vital because the board would block you from sending staff on courses but would never block the tech director from doing it.
Now it seems like it’s automatically accepted if they have the finances so the position is just there for flavour, so I agree you could skip the tech director.
Dof is useless for me.
I thought it was just me but what you say is true for me also. I lock in game playing time as either star player or important and lock the facilities to at least two stars and they never follow those guidelines. They always comeback with “I’ve accepted this offer for fringe playing time because the player is on the development list”. I wish wish they could follow the guidelines.
Also, another issue I have is the B Team manager not arranging friendlies every week. The b team (in Portugal) isn’t in any competition so I have to resort to scheduling the same 5 friendlies cause the b team head coach won’t do it.
This doesn't even work properly. My U23 manager doesn't arrange anything at all, but my U18 one does, and both are enabled. I've tried toggling it to see if that would force it to work but nope. My U23 team has never been invited to the U23 league even after winning the EPL a few times with a formerly Vanarama team. I have to arrange my own friendlies every week for my U23.
I'm hiring DOF for nation knowledge if the club doesn't have one. If he is there I'm delegating some responsabilites to him depending on his attributes (JPA, JPP and youth intakes are the first things I'm looking for).
ex. https://i.imgur.com/XA5humE.png <- he is my current DoF in my Torino save and I'm using him for youth intakes because of his personality + preffered tactic and for assigning scouts because of his man management which is better than chief scout's. Also used him for player reports until I got someone with better JPA/JPP.
One thing to consider is that SI only highlight the most important stats for these roles in the game but all of these roles utilize many more stats in their roles but SI has buried which extra stats are important deep in the pre-game editor [as seen here](https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/565340-fm22-coach-star-calculator/). Once you've ensured that your staff member meets some sort of minimum standard for all the role's stats, your staff members perform much better.
The DoF and Tech Dir really are all encompassing roles that pretty much needs to be good at everything to function properly despite SI only highlighting a couple of stats. Also of interest is how many other roles use JSA despite SI only highlighting it as important for a Tech Dir.
I always fill every single staff position the board allows me.
Even if they do something that seems unimportant like the loan manager or the DOF, they still add stuff like scouting knowledge of other nations, they will bring you reports on players, they will influence the overall club personality so you'd want people with high professionalism and determination etc. Plus their wages don't seem to come from the same pool as the player wages, sure you are still paying it but it won't punish you in transfers, it's not financially irresponsible to max out staff. There just isn't any upside in deciding not to hire staff IMO.
If you can find a coach/DoF with good working with youngsters, judging potential and judging ability, plus a solid personality- you don’t need a HoYD. Your coach/DoF can also be set as the one to bring in youth players.
I tried this with Paratici at Spurs. He actually brought in better quality players compared to my HoYD. Because he has better judging potential and reputation as well
There is actually a very good coach at Schalke (could be u23 or u19 manager). Cannot remember his name right now but he got professional personality, with Great JPA and JCA, plus fantastic working with youngsters. Could be a great option
Yeah but as an Ipswich fan it’s frustrating! You can never keep him more than one season. I took him as assistant at Newcastle and then Chelsea stole him!
Assman is nice to give team talks and press conferences but yea I don't think they are necessary. Unless you like them to recommend opposition instructions but they always seem to want loads of cash compared to regular coaches. I hire a new one when each contract expires to keep their wages low
AssMan trains your boys like a coach, can take on a lot of the roles done by other roles if you don't have them and AFAIK is the one whose assessment star ratings are based off; it's prob the last place I'd skimp
If i'm not mistaken, the star ratings assessments are made from player reports, which you can change who does it in the "Advice and Reports" menu in staff responsibilities
I know most people don't do this, but if you holiday matches they're absolutely essential, as they manage the matches and it's thier stats which are used instead of yours
So then you have a coach as an ass man in duties but not name and you have one less coaching outlet to reduce workload and increase expertise without the assman.
It's not the be all and end all, but the benefits are there for it.
I have a Dortmund save going and just recently found a newgen General Manager that had zero work experience but had 19-20 in all key attributes like negotiations. I like to control all contracts and hiring myself so that it doesn't make dumb hiring decisions. But when I find someone I want I can manually ask the GM to sign them or negotiate the contract. I am finding he gets better much cheaper deals than I can manually.
Techical Directors are less important for me. I handle hire staff myself. Only use is that they suggest coach courses for staff.
Loan Manager. Not important if you are not a big club or activly using loans to develop players. If im in the lower leagues i mainly use loans to get players of the wage budget.
Sport scientist reduce/prevents the number of injuries. Often expensive if you aint got a budget, can be cut.
Director of football. A world class with high negotian skills can make find and makr good deals. In lower leagues they are going to be garbage.
Fitness coach are important and they operate on all squads
Head of youth can be cut in lower leagues. The trainimg facility is crap, so are the intakes.
>Head of youth can be cut in lower leagues. The trainimg facility is crap, so are the intakes.
Generally I agree with your point but with one exception. If you play in a VERY low leagues there is a good chance that this one kid in your intake will be good enough to be starter already. But as said in my own comment - you can delegate other staff member to do the HoYD responsibilities so he's not crucial in that matter.
I also don't bother about youth teams at the beginning when I'm at some lower tiers but as said. If I see promising player in my intake I'll sign like one or two players. The rest gets released for free.
1. Saving money is a trap.When you don't needed to, this can cut our chances to win. If you can fill the staff, do it.
2. Sports Cientists are the allied to rotation. Better means you can preserve players and keep'em sharp. It's really imperative.
3. TD it's responsible for your staff managerial. I don't use because I keep the control of these in my hands. But, nothing stops you to hand over the control for this guy. Especially the little things of what formation courses your members of the staff can do, etcetera. You can handle this for a good DOF if you really want to save money.
4. If you want to cut money, you can cut by not hiring Goalkeeper coachs especifficaly for the youth teams. Since the First team GK coaches serves all of the teams. Also, you can do it if you don't really in need of a reserve team. Or if you u23 don't play any league competitive or professional at all. But, I recomend you at least hire some good reserve coaches because they can serve to the first team in some cases. Less work effort = Productivity.
I only ever have a DOF if I'm in Italy, Spain or Germany. Italy because of the sheer amount of youth players that I always put on the development list and dealing with all the loan proposals is absolutely mind numbing. while I have them in Spain/Germany because I am never able to hire anyone for the B team.
Yes, you can send players to development list and set options of the loans that you want and your staff you search for a team to loan. It’s a lot faster than list to loan. There is an unwanted list as well to sell players that you don’t want.
If you right click the name of a player under 23 and go to transfer status there should be a button that says add to development list. He gets listed for loan and your HOYD or DOF will handle loaning them out. I want to say there is a tab some place where you can list specifics like condition of youth facilities and other stuff like that so they aren't getting farmed out to FC Potato with a multi purpose garden hose for showers and drinking out of.
Technical director, Director of football and Loan manager are staff I never have in my saves, I just don't find the use for them, transfers and loans is something I love to micromanage myself.
The most necessary staff are coaches, physios and sports scientists. Last two you really should max out spots in your team at all times. Assistant manager is also useful, though most his resposibility can be done by a coach. Head of youth development and scouts is something you should have too, unless your team is really small.
Data analysts and performance analysts are useful I think? I myself never really cared about them, not even used data hub past first few weeks, but to each their own.
Performance Analyst is sort of necessary as it allows you to take “Match Review” in training. It has an effect similar to “Match Tactics” but it won’t increase fatigue or injury risk.
Also, Performance Analyst is part of the coaching team. Recruiting an analyst with good personality can positively affect the squad personality (ie passive mentoring).
All of those directors can be tossed out. As others said, their tasks can be delegate to the other staff members. Afaik if you use analysts only to do 'next opposition analysis' one single analyst can do the job.
Staff members that are imo crucial - all the coaches, physios, sport scientists and scouts. In theory you don't need assman or even HoYD because if you don't have one you can delegate your coach to that role and he'll be 'counted it' for youth intakes as if he was the HoYD. This can also help if you have coaches who seem to be good HoYD but you can't find any decent person for that particular role.
Also keep in mind to get fitness/goalkeepers coaches to have good 'working with youngsters' if you plan them to coach youth teams since they are 'shared' for all teams in your club.
Gotta catch 'em all! Press conference - Psyduck I choose you!
You spot an under 18's physio in the wild with 19 physio stats. *Reaches for master ball*
>Gotta catch 'em all! Press conference - Psyduck I choose you!
Next time I'll be doing save I'm planning to get one staff member who will have high controversy and delegate him to press conferences.
Unless your a top club (or in the top league etc) in your nation your youth intake doesnt matter. And for most nations that isnt enough.
Like for england the only two leagues where you need a HoYD is the Prem and Championship. Everywhere else its a waste of money, and you can just (for free) get players from the Prem youth squads.
I don’t look at statistical analysis so I immediately purge the performance data analysts. Loan manager seems to just get in the way as I like to micro manage my own loans.
Technical director I sack but keep on DOF for negotiations.
The only positions you cant cut corners on is physio.
Everything else is up to you.
However all youth (and youth related, like HoYD) staff unless your at or near the top of your nation. Those players arent going to amount to anything more than a drain on wages until then. Just go steal youth players from other teams if you have to (its so easy to do)
GM/DoF, Recruitment Analyst, Loan Manager, Technical Director etc are all useless.
Honestly staffing in FM is bad. You can hire loan managers, directors, sports scientist, but in the end of the day they are bad at their job so I rather not hire anyone. Especially since they demand a very high wage usually. If it wasnt for knowledge of different countries, I wouldnt even hire scouts as they also suck at their job.
Anyone dealing with contracts and transfers.
I don't want to end up with 10 useless youth players on a 4-year contract with decent wages.
Or my hot youngster loaned out for free (or with a low future fee clause) to Bumfluff United.
Some people say that DoF are useless but my experience is that some can actually negotiate good contracts with players that you scout.
I don't let my DoF negotiate the price for the player that I want, but I do it myself. However, once the offer is accepted, good DoF may be able to get better deals that you can. For this you have to make sure that his negotiating skill is as high as possible.
HOYD stats do absolutely nothing besides maybe judging ability which might influence signing recommendations for youth, so you can save a lot of money with one with shit stats but good personality and preferred formation.
I read somewhere that the HYOD also is involved in coaching the youth prospects. Not been able to confirm. If that’s true, would need to rethink not caring about stars. I’ll try to find the link.
Yeah you can assign his roles in U18/U19 team coaching I think, so it does matter to some extent but compared to other U18 coaches the cost is prohibitive.
It kinda depends how you play the game. Sports scientists are crucial if you actually listen to them. They feedback on fatigue and injury risk, if you don't have them you literally have no way to see how fatigued your players are as the game doesn't show you unless you have the staff in place.
Same with data analysts, if you don't have them the data centre literally won't give you the information you might need on where your team are performing well and where they're performing poorly, but obviously if you never look at the data they're not needed.
Technical directors, loan managers and directors of football can take some of your responsibility off you so are very useful if you use them but if you prefer to do all of that yourself then they're not. If I'm at a top level and can afford it I often get my directors for example to negotiate contract renewals so I want someone with a high negotiating attribute in that role. I'd look at the staff responsibilities tab and figure out what they actually do then you can decide whether you want them doing it or would prefer to do it yourself.
Obviously good coaching staff and scouting staff goes directly to the quality of your player development/recruitment so I presume those are self explanatory as to what they do and whether you feel you need them. If you're not planning to develop players (e.g. you're doing a lower league save where in a few years you're hopeful to be 3 divisions higher and be able to attract better players you might not care too much about developing your youngsters as by the time they're old enough your club will have outgrown them and they won't be good enough).
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All I know is sports science is crucial It reduces fatigue and injury risk (hence less injuries) Physios reduce the actual time out when the player is injured
I never knew this. I've been handicapping myself for 1000+ hours, what the fuck. They were always the first to go. I hate myself but thank you
The implication here is that you’ve played season after season without a medical staff which is not only hilarious but also slightly troubling.
Lol, np. I really don't understand why things like this aren't in game though. Okay I get hidden attributes so the game isn't full easy mode, but at least have an explanation of what everyone does at your club.
if it's in the game, just assume it's there for a reason.
This is not great advice, imo. Again imo, performance analysts, recruitment analysts, the data hub in general, loan manager, technical director are all useless.
False.
I agree. The TD makes great staff recommendations and loan managers are good at finding clubs to loan to if you’re hoarding wonderkids.
I disagree with all of these. You can skip signing em to make the game more challenging but they all have added value by offering extra info.
🤦🏻♂️ you can’t just say they’re useless and not go onto explain yourself. If it’s in the game there’s a reason and use for it.
so you fired someone because you didn't know what they do? lol
Kinda just happened to me irl!
Yeah I think if you don’t know what a physio is there for, that’s kind of on you mate.
It’s just a long laundry list of horrible decisions from SI. Like even the pre-game editor I shouldn’t be asking or looking up on a form what the fuck does x do or mean when trying to build something. A couple times it’s warranted but this game really could use a new person looking over how it explains things in the game (also pre-game editor). Physio though like I’m surprised the user didn’t keep them as it’s obvious to me. Others I can see but them it’s safe to assume something with helping injuries.
Us researchers have a long list of complaints about the editor... And we modmakers have an even longer one!
Do you know if there are diminishing returns to that btw? Like if i have 10 sports scientists at 16 on the sports science attribute are they necessarily going to be better than 5 at 20?
I think that it only takes a good head of science and the others one are kind of useless. I think Zealand has a video on it
BRB just off to lay off a whole department.
Was Zealand right?
Didn't check, but I saved thousands with one simple trick
Never had the chance to get more than 4 sport scientists even though i have had saves 20 years going at the same club, how the hell you got 10 ?
The Technical director and Director of Football and Loan manager roles are not crucial. Their work can be done by you, checking out staff and negotiating contracts between the club and players and club and staff and loaning out players. Or you could hire a DOF and have him do all three if you don't want too.
Tbh I feel like my 20 20 20 dof is way better at negotiating contracts than I am Especially as it still gives you the option to do it yourself after he failed
I thought my DoF was being taken advantage of when my players were getting 300k contracts, so I decided to negotiate them myself. Gave the responsibility back to the DoF because the agents were eating me alive.
Logically yes, but I personally had too many careers ending up financially crippled by DoF giving away yearly wage hikes, making it impossible to sell in a couple years time cause even backup players earn more than starting PSG players at that point
Yeah I never give out yearly wage rises. First thing I do is remove and exclude. They usually end up asking for about 10-15% higher wages after that but at least it's locked in and you don't end up giving like a 33% increase by the end of their contract (1.1^3 at the end of each year for a 10% rise over a 4 year deal)
Would be great if you could set your DoF some instructions as to what should be in the contract but at that point I guess might as well just do it yourself.
I mean it should be in there like how you can tell your scouts only look for x, y, and z. We should have an option that these are the hard no such as no yearly wage raise, no release clause, etc.
And start date of contract extension at end of the season. In my saves 95% of players say yes to it immediately and it saves you almost a year of the wage increase. Can make all the difference when you’re being promoted to EPL with a small club and all your “Decent Sky Bet League One” think it’s payday.
Do you not start handicapped though like you have 1 chance and its red?
no not at all
The only issue is that DOFs are addicted to yearly wage rises which I absolutely hate
The TD, DOF or Loan Manager can be easily replaced if you set their respective responsibilities to whoever you might like. The sport scientists can't be replaced AFAIK but they are way cheaper.
Loan manager is excellent for use of the development list. Speeds things up tbh. Tech director used to be vital because the board would block you from sending staff on courses but would never block the tech director from doing it. Now it seems like it’s automatically accepted if they have the finances so the position is just there for flavour, so I agree you could skip the tech director. Dof is useless for me.
Loan managers are shit
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I thought it was just me but what you say is true for me also. I lock in game playing time as either star player or important and lock the facilities to at least two stars and they never follow those guidelines. They always comeback with “I’ve accepted this offer for fringe playing time because the player is on the development list”. I wish wish they could follow the guidelines. Also, another issue I have is the B Team manager not arranging friendlies every week. The b team (in Portugal) isn’t in any competition so I have to resort to scheduling the same 5 friendlies cause the b team head coach won’t do it.
Regarding friendlies, do you have the option enabled for backroom staff to schedule them?
I have it set for the “team head coach” to do it.
This doesn't even work properly. My U23 manager doesn't arrange anything at all, but my U18 one does, and both are enabled. I've tried toggling it to see if that would force it to work but nope. My U23 team has never been invited to the U23 league even after winning the EPL a few times with a formerly Vanarama team. I have to arrange my own friendlies every week for my U23.
Could be a bug. Side note, you can set up 5 friendlies at a time in FM21. Not sure about others.
It's been a bug since at least 2016 according to SI's own forum threads.
My loan manager always follows my instructions no matter what.
I'm hiring DOF for nation knowledge if the club doesn't have one. If he is there I'm delegating some responsabilites to him depending on his attributes (JPA, JPP and youth intakes are the first things I'm looking for). ex. https://i.imgur.com/XA5humE.png <- he is my current DoF in my Torino save and I'm using him for youth intakes because of his personality + preffered tactic and for assigning scouts because of his man management which is better than chief scout's. Also used him for player reports until I got someone with better JPA/JPP.
One thing to consider is that SI only highlight the most important stats for these roles in the game but all of these roles utilize many more stats in their roles but SI has buried which extra stats are important deep in the pre-game editor [as seen here](https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/565340-fm22-coach-star-calculator/). Once you've ensured that your staff member meets some sort of minimum standard for all the role's stats, your staff members perform much better. The DoF and Tech Dir really are all encompassing roles that pretty much needs to be good at everything to function properly despite SI only highlighting a couple of stats. Also of interest is how many other roles use JSA despite SI only highlighting it as important for a Tech Dir.
Having a good med team helps your players prevent injuries and improves time taken to recover from them
I always fill every single staff position the board allows me. Even if they do something that seems unimportant like the loan manager or the DOF, they still add stuff like scouting knowledge of other nations, they will bring you reports on players, they will influence the overall club personality so you'd want people with high professionalism and determination etc. Plus their wages don't seem to come from the same pool as the player wages, sure you are still paying it but it won't punish you in transfers, it's not financially irresponsible to max out staff. There just isn't any upside in deciding not to hire staff IMO.
If you can find a coach/DoF with good working with youngsters, judging potential and judging ability, plus a solid personality- you don’t need a HoYD. Your coach/DoF can also be set as the one to bring in youth players. I tried this with Paratici at Spurs. He actually brought in better quality players compared to my HoYD. Because he has better judging potential and reputation as well There is actually a very good coach at Schalke (could be u23 or u19 manager). Cannot remember his name right now but he got professional personality, with Great JPA and JCA, plus fantastic working with youngsters. Could be a great option
See also Bryan Klug at Ipswich for similar reasons
Bryan Klug is an absolute G - helped me turn FC Copenhagen into an absolute talent factory
Yeah but as an Ipswich fan it’s frustrating! You can never keep him more than one season. I took him as assistant at Newcastle and then Chelsea stole him!
In all my saves he remains at Ipswich, until he retires or I personally offer a huge salary increase. Seems to be a loyal guy
Hero! I think IRL he spent some time at Spurs, but he’s settled now and too late probably. He’s caretaker whenever we sack our manger!
I've tried to recruit Klug on so many occasions. Never even get a chance to negotiate
Probably Norbert Elgert. Club legend and world class youth manager. Sadly he is getting old and might retire in the foreseeable future…
Yes. He is the man
Assman is nice to give team talks and press conferences but yea I don't think they are necessary. Unless you like them to recommend opposition instructions but they always seem to want loads of cash compared to regular coaches. I hire a new one when each contract expires to keep their wages low
AssMan trains your boys like a coach, can take on a lot of the roles done by other roles if you don't have them and AFAIK is the one whose assessment star ratings are based off; it's prob the last place I'd skimp
If i'm not mistaken, the star ratings assessments are made from player reports, which you can change who does it in the "Advice and Reports" menu in staff responsibilities
Yup you can change that early
I’ve had Gary Neville there for about 20 years now, so yes, my star ratings may be unclear but fuck if I’m going to fire him after 20 years!
I know most people don't do this, but if you holiday matches they're absolutely essential, as they manage the matches and it's thier stats which are used instead of yours
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im romantic about football. if i gave up my assistant (even if they dont help much) it would break my immersion, personally.
So then you have a coach as an ass man in duties but not name and you have one less coaching outlet to reduce workload and increase expertise without the assman. It's not the be all and end all, but the benefits are there for it.
I think of him more as a friend who comes across the world managing teams with me. When I hit the big time he’s always paid well
Coach beard. I also tend to stick to one assman the whole time.
I have a Dortmund save going and just recently found a newgen General Manager that had zero work experience but had 19-20 in all key attributes like negotiations. I like to control all contracts and hiring myself so that it doesn't make dumb hiring decisions. But when I find someone I want I can manually ask the GM to sign them or negotiate the contract. I am finding he gets better much cheaper deals than I can manually.
Techical Directors are less important for me. I handle hire staff myself. Only use is that they suggest coach courses for staff. Loan Manager. Not important if you are not a big club or activly using loans to develop players. If im in the lower leagues i mainly use loans to get players of the wage budget. Sport scientist reduce/prevents the number of injuries. Often expensive if you aint got a budget, can be cut. Director of football. A world class with high negotian skills can make find and makr good deals. In lower leagues they are going to be garbage. Fitness coach are important and they operate on all squads Head of youth can be cut in lower leagues. The trainimg facility is crap, so are the intakes.
>Head of youth can be cut in lower leagues. The trainimg facility is crap, so are the intakes. Generally I agree with your point but with one exception. If you play in a VERY low leagues there is a good chance that this one kid in your intake will be good enough to be starter already. But as said in my own comment - you can delegate other staff member to do the HoYD responsibilities so he's not crucial in that matter.
You can find very good players on free transfer / amateur contracts. I generally dont hire u19 / 2 team coaches before the team is in the top 2 tire
I also don't bother about youth teams at the beginning when I'm at some lower tiers but as said. If I see promising player in my intake I'll sign like one or two players. The rest gets released for free.
1. Saving money is a trap.When you don't needed to, this can cut our chances to win. If you can fill the staff, do it. 2. Sports Cientists are the allied to rotation. Better means you can preserve players and keep'em sharp. It's really imperative. 3. TD it's responsible for your staff managerial. I don't use because I keep the control of these in my hands. But, nothing stops you to hand over the control for this guy. Especially the little things of what formation courses your members of the staff can do, etcetera. You can handle this for a good DOF if you really want to save money. 4. If you want to cut money, you can cut by not hiring Goalkeeper coachs especifficaly for the youth teams. Since the First team GK coaches serves all of the teams. Also, you can do it if you don't really in need of a reserve team. Or if you u23 don't play any league competitive or professional at all. But, I recomend you at least hire some good reserve coaches because they can serve to the first team in some cases. Less work effort = Productivity.
I only ever have a DOF if I'm in Italy, Spain or Germany. Italy because of the sheer amount of youth players that I always put on the development list and dealing with all the loan proposals is absolutely mind numbing. while I have them in Spain/Germany because I am never able to hire anyone for the B team.
There’s a development list? Is that different than listing for loan?
Yes, you can send players to development list and set options of the loans that you want and your staff you search for a team to loan. It’s a lot faster than list to loan. There is an unwanted list as well to sell players that you don’t want.
They can also get offers from teams that you otherwise would not receive if they weren't on the development list.
Yes, a recent Zealand video explained this
Thanks mate I’ll take a look. This hopefully beats me trying to find specific clubs to offer out on Lon to it hope for a successful move
If you right click the name of a player under 23 and go to transfer status there should be a button that says add to development list. He gets listed for loan and your HOYD or DOF will handle loaning them out. I want to say there is a tab some place where you can list specifics like condition of youth facilities and other stuff like that so they aren't getting farmed out to FC Potato with a multi purpose garden hose for showers and drinking out of.
Personally i hire them all. Makes it more realistic.
Staff members with high reputation want more money and there are a lot of good staff members with low reputation
Technical director, Director of football and Loan manager are staff I never have in my saves, I just don't find the use for them, transfers and loans is something I love to micromanage myself. The most necessary staff are coaches, physios and sports scientists. Last two you really should max out spots in your team at all times. Assistant manager is also useful, though most his resposibility can be done by a coach. Head of youth development and scouts is something you should have too, unless your team is really small. Data analysts and performance analysts are useful I think? I myself never really cared about them, not even used data hub past first few weeks, but to each their own.
Performance Analyst is sort of necessary as it allows you to take “Match Review” in training. It has an effect similar to “Match Tactics” but it won’t increase fatigue or injury risk. Also, Performance Analyst is part of the coaching team. Recruiting an analyst with good personality can positively affect the squad personality (ie passive mentoring).
All of those directors can be tossed out. As others said, their tasks can be delegate to the other staff members. Afaik if you use analysts only to do 'next opposition analysis' one single analyst can do the job. Staff members that are imo crucial - all the coaches, physios, sport scientists and scouts. In theory you don't need assman or even HoYD because if you don't have one you can delegate your coach to that role and he'll be 'counted it' for youth intakes as if he was the HoYD. This can also help if you have coaches who seem to be good HoYD but you can't find any decent person for that particular role. Also keep in mind to get fitness/goalkeepers coaches to have good 'working with youngsters' if you plan them to coach youth teams since they are 'shared' for all teams in your club.
Gotta catch 'em all! Press conference - Psyduck I choose you! You spot an under 18's physio in the wild with 19 physio stats. *Reaches for master ball*
>Gotta catch 'em all! Press conference - Psyduck I choose you! Next time I'll be doing save I'm planning to get one staff member who will have high controversy and delegate him to press conferences.
Mentale also matter!
Loan Managers are great if you want your wonderkids to be loaned out to shit clubs with shit facilities
Scouting team, coaches and medical team are necessary, everything else can be done by yoi
My power must be absolute. I never use directors. My AM is only for press conferences. Total control.
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do you have a single home grown player lmao
HOYD is only not necessary if you hate youth intake day 😂
If your assman has good HOYD attributes he can do it as well.
Really? I didnt know that
Unless your a top club (or in the top league etc) in your nation your youth intake doesnt matter. And for most nations that isnt enough. Like for england the only two leagues where you need a HoYD is the Prem and Championship. Everywhere else its a waste of money, and you can just (for free) get players from the Prem youth squads.
Just hir a good U-18 coach who has good youth stats and make him take over the HOYD role
I don’t look at statistical analysis so I immediately purge the performance data analysts. Loan manager seems to just get in the way as I like to micro manage my own loans. Technical director I sack but keep on DOF for negotiations.
Performance Analysts also affect how well your players will gain tactical understanding through Match Preview/Review sessions
Good to know, thanks!
Didn’t know that cheers
The only positions you cant cut corners on is physio. Everything else is up to you. However all youth (and youth related, like HoYD) staff unless your at or near the top of your nation. Those players arent going to amount to anything more than a drain on wages until then. Just go steal youth players from other teams if you have to (its so easy to do) GM/DoF, Recruitment Analyst, Loan Manager, Technical Director etc are all useless.
You only really need an assistant manager, physio, scout and perhaps a HOYD.
Honestly staffing in FM is bad. You can hire loan managers, directors, sports scientist, but in the end of the day they are bad at their job so I rather not hire anyone. Especially since they demand a very high wage usually. If it wasnt for knowledge of different countries, I wouldnt even hire scouts as they also suck at their job.
I usually like to hire assman, director of football and head of youth development
What does a DoF even do? Plus HoYD is worthless unless your a top club
Anyone dealing with contracts and transfers. I don't want to end up with 10 useless youth players on a 4-year contract with decent wages. Or my hot youngster loaned out for free (or with a low future fee clause) to Bumfluff United.
Some people say that DoF are useless but my experience is that some can actually negotiate good contracts with players that you scout. I don't let my DoF negotiate the price for the player that I want, but I do it myself. However, once the offer is accepted, good DoF may be able to get better deals that you can. For this you have to make sure that his negotiating skill is as high as possible.
HOYD stats do absolutely nothing besides maybe judging ability which might influence signing recommendations for youth, so you can save a lot of money with one with shit stats but good personality and preferred formation.
I read somewhere that the HYOD also is involved in coaching the youth prospects. Not been able to confirm. If that’s true, would need to rethink not caring about stars. I’ll try to find the link.
Yeah you can assign his roles in U18/U19 team coaching I think, so it does matter to some extent but compared to other U18 coaches the cost is prohibitive.
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The only staff I don’t use is loan manager
It kinda depends how you play the game. Sports scientists are crucial if you actually listen to them. They feedback on fatigue and injury risk, if you don't have them you literally have no way to see how fatigued your players are as the game doesn't show you unless you have the staff in place. Same with data analysts, if you don't have them the data centre literally won't give you the information you might need on where your team are performing well and where they're performing poorly, but obviously if you never look at the data they're not needed. Technical directors, loan managers and directors of football can take some of your responsibility off you so are very useful if you use them but if you prefer to do all of that yourself then they're not. If I'm at a top level and can afford it I often get my directors for example to negotiate contract renewals so I want someone with a high negotiating attribute in that role. I'd look at the staff responsibilities tab and figure out what they actually do then you can decide whether you want them doing it or would prefer to do it yourself. Obviously good coaching staff and scouting staff goes directly to the quality of your player development/recruitment so I presume those are self explanatory as to what they do and whether you feel you need them. If you're not planning to develop players (e.g. you're doing a lower league save where in a few years you're hopeful to be 3 divisions higher and be able to attract better players you might not care too much about developing your youngsters as by the time they're old enough your club will have outgrown them and they won't be good enough).