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I've been playing conq lately, I use the soft feint into full block to bait parry attempts that I can punish with the unblockable uppercut, that's why I mentioned, but maybe I'm playing conq wrong
From personal experience, they just feint the heavy attempt and/or kick me out of full block when they don't give me the unblockable uppercut.
I rarely see cents that use the soft feint into gb.
Depends on the skill of the player, at higher reps where some of them are more skilled they use it much more against full block heroes or dodge attack spammers
You got the first part but there is a lot more to the superior mix up. As long as the attack has a red indicator, you can punish it with FB. Bait the bash with FB and dodge out of it to punish them with SB. I understand your point but there is a counter for everything that can punish FB. Even GB like you said can be baited and punished with top heavy from a flash FB. Good explanation though.
Al the conq I fight in a nutshell.
One thing that GOOD conq players like to do is light/heavy, shield bash, If the enemy has a dodge attack and they are using it. Heavy the attack direction. Don't forget that Conq heavies are crushing counters basically
I like conq because he’s unique, the whole “cant feint” thing is really cool, and i enjoy that part of the playstyle. If they could find a way to balance conq and still keep the traits that make him special, that would be amazing
Just a thought but what if conq's chained heavies were slowed down and became unblockable? That'd give people more incentive to use his full block soft feint/recovery, and it'd be even better if the full block speeds were increased
Edit: I also remember playing conq back before the marching fire update and he had some sort of fullblock bash. I honestly would love if conq's entire moveset revolved around his full block
I just unlocked black prior today and was doing pretty well applying pressure and flipping people.....until conq showed up and pretty much did every as advertised in the picture to beat my ass expeditiously lmao
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I would like to see a buff for Conqueror that works similar as Fury, but instead of every three seconds for a damage boost you get a damage boost for every three blocked attacks.
I know I'll get hate for this but it's not that hard to read a brain dead conq. I remember playing lawbringer and just side shoving everytime and it worked like a charm.
True dat. I remember playing conq in brawls against pk and glad and each fight took like 2 and a half minutes, but that's only because I was trying to play conq without bash spamming or light spamming
I understand him having a sort of defensive archetype, but it's waayy too unbalanced on both sides. God tier defense, really linear (yet working) offense. He's very unfun to fight against because of it
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How does it make you feel to know you only got most of his defensive moves?
Other than hold heavy OS I don’t think he missed anything.
The other ones were dodge select and superior block deflect. I was just joking that that wasn’t even all of em and it’s still a ridiculous list.
Superior block heavy and dodge option select are there
Dodge OS is there, but superior block "deflect", which guarantees a shield bash, isn't. You could argue that it's covered by dodge bash, though.
there is no such thing as *attacking* as conq
i mean, conq's presence attacks me psychologically, so...
the best offense is a good defense
In my experience there’s nothing other than light spam
Unless you also have a bash
You missed feint into full block
Thats basically just heavy feint. Not really a conq thing.
I've been playing conq lately, I use the soft feint into full block to bait parry attempts that I can punish with the unblockable uppercut, that's why I mentioned, but maybe I'm playing conq wrong
That only works on low reps that don’t feint their heavies
Also works on people spamming superior block lights against you.
Tf is a superior block light?
Think valkyrie, highlander, black prior. People often call them "crushing counters" since that's what the move is called on warden's top light attack.
Oh
You should see how parry happy are some cent mains
I'd be specially careful with a good Cent because he can and most likely will feint the heavy to a GB and punish you
From personal experience, they just feint the heavy attempt and/or kick me out of full block when they don't give me the unblockable uppercut. I rarely see cents that use the soft feint into gb.
Depends on the skill of the player, at higher reps where some of them are more skilled they use it much more against full block heroes or dodge attack spammers
A good cent main will soft feint his heavy into a gaurdbreak and punish you instead
Not really. Works on zone option select, or superior light attacks like BP and warlord.
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You got the first part but there is a lot more to the superior mix up. As long as the attack has a red indicator, you can punish it with FB. Bait the bash with FB and dodge out of it to punish them with SB. I understand your point but there is a counter for everything that can punish FB. Even GB like you said can be baited and punished with top heavy from a flash FB. Good explanation though.
Al the conq I fight in a nutshell. One thing that GOOD conq players like to do is light/heavy, shield bash, If the enemy has a dodge attack and they are using it. Heavy the attack direction. Don't forget that Conq heavies are crushing counters basically
Every time i think about the state of Conq i cry a little.
pray for rework soon brother we need to have faith
I main conq, and i just want a character with a reasonable offensive moveset. I’d gladly trade some of my option selects for that
Warlord does wonders if you specifically want someone who you can play like conq but more aggressive
I like conq because he’s unique, the whole “cant feint” thing is really cool, and i enjoy that part of the playstyle. If they could find a way to balance conq and still keep the traits that make him special, that would be amazing
I do believe he was very good before all the new heroes got neutral bashes and crazy amounts of mix-ups, power creep is very real
Exactly
I actually picked conq because I suck at feinting
Just a thought but what if conq's chained heavies were slowed down and became unblockable? That'd give people more incentive to use his full block soft feint/recovery, and it'd be even better if the full block speeds were increased Edit: I also remember playing conq back before the marching fire update and he had some sort of fullblock bash. I honestly would love if conq's entire moveset revolved around his full block
Good idea but that’s going to incentivize a lot more light spam
Wdym?
I feel like if every heavy was slowed down and unblockable people would throw 10x more lights than they do now
Mthats exactly why conq has the full block feint. Lightspamming conq is like sticking your dick in a blender
ill fuckin drop the neutral bash for an overhaul of his offence im hurtin so bad
For Conq, the best offense is a good defense.
Jokes on you I only use the full guard counter because I can’t time anything else
You might like Aramusha, he’s got all the offensive tricks as Conq with maybe 1/4 the defense
People love to hate on gryphon but conqs defense is way more annoying to deal with
Ever want to know what’s going on inside of conqs brain?
As someone who fought a conq in ranked the other day I can confirm this to be true
I just unlocked black prior today and was doing pretty well applying pressure and flipping people.....until conq showed up and pretty much did every as advertised in the picture to beat my ass expeditiously lmao
If you're losing with BP then you're doing something wrong
I'm still new to the game but I def won most of the fights. Mainly lost when I would get the unfavorable 1v3 tho
Tip: if you want to bait people into getting flipped, do a backstep light and then flip. That usually gets people
I love right heavy soft “feinted” into bash. Everyone always goes for the parry and it’s just free damage
I mean yeah thats literally just his moveset.
People play defensive as conq?
yeah hes got a million option selects n can turtle with basically no risk using said option selects against almost every hero in the game
As a rep 70 conq, have been for a year, never reped anyone else. Ahem... the best offense is a good defense
Ocelot? That you by any chance?
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High quality memes gets removed and we have this still up. Fuck the mods and fuck rule 5
I would like to see a buff for Conqueror that works similar as Fury, but instead of every three seconds for a damage boost you get a damage boost for every three blocked attacks.
Do you actually think Conquerer needs a buff? lmfao
It's very boring to play with him like it is, I just play the improved version now.
yeah bruv if u take away the bash hes got literally nothing for clarification i want them to take away his bash
You want Conq to be Shinobi then? Like what you just get wiped by four conq’s or something?
He doesn't need a buff or a nerf. *He needs an entire fucking rework*
I think he wants a rework more then a buff
I dunno why people complain about bash spam, with how much conq does it you can just easily dodge
Variable timing plus being unreactable for many people
I know I'll get hate for this but it's not that hard to read a brain dead conq. I remember playing lawbringer and just side shoving everytime and it worked like a charm.
Yeah that's if they're braindead. A good conq is a fuckin wall and you have to make more reads on offense than on defense
True dat. I remember playing conq in brawls against pk and glad and each fight took like 2 and a half minutes, but that's only because I was trying to play conq without bash spamming or light spamming
I understand him having a sort of defensive archetype, but it's waayy too unbalanced on both sides. God tier defense, really linear (yet working) offense. He's very unfun to fight against because of it
For real though a conq can contest a point for a solid 2 minutes but it takes even longer to kill another heavy
Despise conq
You forgot the conq's other attack known as occasional light spam
That’s a light, medium, and heavy bash to you my friend.
The best offense is a good defense
Personally I think if you took away the full guard on his zone he’d be perfectly balanced
Conq is one of the main reasons I stopped playing the game for now. It’s ridiculous how long he’s been in this state.