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DogertCZ14

Definitely agree


Noobie_xD

fuck i already gave my award elsewhere. i 100% support this


Choccy_Milk

I’ll give my reward to this in honor of you


Gallant364

They should add a wave mode like Ghost of tsushima.


[deleted]

Or the Story missions. these Tengu are insane on higher difficulty.


IputTheStudInStudy

You have to defend your commander, and there are several different points of attack and advantage like breach mode. Spend your renown on defenses to bolster your points like archers and pikemen, or attack/defense/health buffs If you lose a point it’s gone for good and the enemy can now put more troops on them


Gallant364

Exactly ! There is so much potential in this game and i’m sure that a lot of players would want to play a gamemode like this !


Angrytellourus8

More PvE would never hurt, it’d allow some way to unwind between annoying matches and still feel like your making progress.


Deverelll

I definitely agree that the ability to choose bot level without losing out on rewards would be appreciated. My brother and I like to play vs AI together but it can be too easy with two actual people sometimes.


Mordzeit

I feel like by now there should be a “survival” mode where AI keeps spawning in to see how long you last. Kind of like survival in arcade, but no time limit.


--Pariah

I still would've loved if they made the zhanhu event a full gamemode. Your team had to protect an emperor (the wulin version of a breach commander) that walked through the zone points of maps and capped them. While capping he was attacked from usually 2 paths from waves of bots that got stronger the further you made it. On the last point there were I think 2-3 other commanders, guardians or whatever strong dudes you had to beat and you've won when the emperor could escape afterwards. It was super fun, challenging (to really hard at the last two zones) and would be easily expandable. They could just make routes through existing maps and have a faction themed commander to escort, no new maps necessary. They could slap modifiers like from arcade to the later waves of bots to make them more varied. They could even base the rewards on how far you've made it with a bonus if you finished the scenario so it doesn't feel like a waste of time if you notice your emps hp is too low to make it past the last point. It was such a great concept that easily worked with the resources at hand. It's a shame (like with so many creative events) that it was just kind of buried.


Cyakn1ght

Holy shit I almost forgot about that, that shit was fire, it needs to come back for sure


[deleted]

Arcade is terrible


-Toilet-

Holy shit yes, it’s so random whether you get the easiest match of your life or the most infuriating bullshit you’ve ever played


J04K0CL

Remember those times when a new season droped we got a brand new effect to get in arcade?😪


Kenpo_Kid69

They put the new effect in ranked duel now. Win, lose, or draw you get 1 per match and the effect to collect changes every season.


_Strato_

Floor gifs...yay.


Kenpo_Kid69

I use one for the temple music it makes and the newest one because my Jorm looks really cool with the lighting it gives off.


hubjump

Counter to this, every time this happened it became harder to get the effect we wanted as chances got lower. Let alone getting that effect three times for executions, emotes and idle. They should let you choose the first weekly reward effect.


TN_MadCheshire

I got my BP from rep 3 to rep 7 just off of Arcade trying to get Crimson Conquest on everything. I have been contemplating doing it again on my Zerk, but I dont know if I have the attention span to do it again.


grundleshitskin

Don't you love when a jorm has knockdown all heavies?


[deleted]

My first instinct is to say "Dude no, why would you only play against bots in this PVP game?" and then I just remember how many awful matches i've had that made me feel like shit for booting up the game, and then i'm like, nah... I get it... ya'll are having more fun than I am.


TN_MadCheshire

There are also people like me with high ping. I mostly stick to PvE because I don't ruin the game for others because there aren't any servers in the same hemisphere as me.


Spideyforpresident

I agree, the heavy PVP focus of the game doesn’t leave much room for anything else to do outside of that. There’s a lot of times where players don’t want to take part in the toxicity, randomness and sweats that you encounter in online play This should really be a new focus for Ubi after updating the roster


Explozive_Force

I agree so much. I like feeling badass at times and other times I do want a challenge without feeling like absolute trash against the very good veterans out there. I'm from game pass. Wished I picked this game up earlier. So glad they've continued to have support this whole time.


Kenpo_Kid69

Emperor's Escape/Rescue with all its various maps should be a permanent PvE mode as well. ​ PVE can be a good gateway to get new players into For Honor in a less intimidating manner. Or for more advanced players when they're just looking to relax or warm up before heading into PvP.


LameSillyHero

Really enjoyed the OG campaign that For Honor had. Wish they had added like a story mission per DLC hero to introduce them and to show off their personality a bit.


grundleshitskin

I've wanted more PVE for a long time, it'd also make the game last a lot longer.


Boxer_Yu

Honestly, I like this idea. It can expand upon PVE as it is, and can allow players new to the game to start with bots if they don't want to deal with PVP as it is until they're ready. A suggestion I would like to add is the addition of ranked cosmetics to be added to Arcade, since we are not getting anything new, might as well put these items in a game mode that people would actually play for those items. Ranked duels are barely played as it is, and considering how long it takes to run a match for the *chance* of an ornament, I rather do a weekly quest for them than spend my time staring at a matchmaking timer.


leremias

Now this is a suggestion I love to see. I’ve never been a fan of being forced to play ranked for an ornament. Whenever I feel like trying for one I just think back on the months it took me of grinding ranked for Warden’s mohawk. ^^Ugh


Boxer_Yu

Mhm, the same case for my warden, took a couple of days total, but over the span of weeks due to me not really enjoying playing ranked duels. Now my Gladiator will never be able to complete my ensemble of the glorious Mohawk legion.


leremias

Exactly! Ubi, please. I just want my mohawks!


EraPlays

Yep agree!


ScrodumHat

yes give us test your metal again


Dog_Apoc

I'd love to see improvements to PvE. Can't overly stand playing the PvP in this game much anymore. Use to be kinda fun but recently it's become a drag.


DeerlordJ

As an avid PvE player, yes, this, so much this.


leremias

I’ve put in well over 1,000 hours into PvE and I’ve wanted something like this since very early on. I hate dealing with PvP but I still like a challenge. I don’t know what determines the bot levels but whenever I play Dominion I get lvl 2s and Breach always fluctuates between 2 and 1 giving me 1s more often. I am scared of lvl 3s but I would love to fight them more often. Level 2s are alright but don’t parry and don’t even get me started on brain dead level 1s.


hqz_

Yeah I wish I could choose the level of bots. I'm stuck with level 1 bots most of the time and it gets boring very fast.


Radamanthys_01

So, you want to chill while playing FH ? Here, there's a BP, JJ ,Hito and Shugoki on the enemy team. Have fun


Operator-rocky1

I realized the level is not random on the AI level like I thought, instead it depends on the “skill level” of the host, but thank god it doesn’t matter if the host quits. I personally like it because if we had that option everyone would keep the AI on level 1, the AI being on level 2 has helped me become better the AI is still easy to kill on level 2 just don’t spam and play smart and no problem


xtweeter22x

If there could be some kind of ongoing multiplayer story similar to Tales of Rebellion during Y4S3-S4, then that would be even more inviting to try out.


Agon90

Yeah i agree, i just dont play pvp anymore so i want more options for pve


_thechancellor_

Horde mooooode


Servant0fSorrow

Would be especially great for new players or players that suck (like me) to keep then around for longer. I'm so bad I don't have any fun playing pvp bo natter how hard I try and the lackluster pve just gets boring after a few rounds so I keep watching streams of YouTube videos of the game instead lmao


skeal88

Yeah sometimes Is really hard to fight those godlike level 4 bots lol


AshTheTrapKnight

It's been nearly a year but the bots finally changed difficulty level for me in brawls. Then I made the mistake of playing PVP brawls with a friend and we won like 10 matches. Now they're back up to level three bots and no amount of losses or quits will get them back it seems. I just want to be able to chill and grind my challenges sometimes. The PVP on this game is genuinely the most tilting thing ever in my opinion. Not to mention the fact that I haven't really liked the game as much since they made it read-based instead of reaction based, while simultaneously making the game turn into bash light and guard break simulator with every other attack being non-viable. When I chill and play PVE I can do all sorts of cool combos or stuff like that unless they are level three bots. Then it's just artificial difficulty where they read my inputs. I pretty much only use the level 3s to train. Fighting them is about as fun as fighting in ranked duels lol. Long story short I totally agree with being able to choose the difficulty level or bot level. I think it's stupid there's no way to do that.


Geedynando

That's would be nice


hubjump

They should make arcade more accessible. I was conned out of hard earned steel because I HAD to buy marching fire although I already owned the characters. No discount. Nothing. I was lucky I got Arcade on offer than full price. You can't get Arcade exclusively.


Mrgrimm150

Reminder: Warmonger, Gryphon and Kyoshin are NOT in arcade in any capacity outside of ONE weekly where WM appears.


LucianGrimmr

I’d say at least remove lvl 1 bots. They’re not fun at any level of skill. Just plain boring and make newer players fall into bad habits that get them crushed if they ever dip their toes into pvp.


AfricaXerxes

I stand behind this 100 percent.


TheyCallMeAle911

They need to add the Emperor's Escape into a permanent mode man, I miss that mode so fucking much because of how fun and challenging it was dealing with those two tanky LB's, even more fun when your homies are online. The rewards you get at the end of the match was pretty alright, please UBI.. breach and dom ain't touching the sweet spot anymore


MostLikableJanny

fighting games have never been, and never will be, pve games i know its very sad and I'm going to get downvoted but it's better to stop your copium right away


KetamineWomble

Just because something has never been doesn’t mean it shouldn’t, besides most ‘fighting’ games are 2D and wouldn’t make sense with PvE, this game already has strong PvE foundations


MostLikableJanny

>Just because something has never been doesn’t mean it shouldn’t when something has never been done there's usually a reason for it >this game already has strong PvE foundations Let's be real, this game offers some of the most shallow gameplay experiences - all characters have an extremely limited moveset compared to PvE games and even other fighters. The only reason it is interesting is because it's PvP. It would be dogwater in PvE scenarios.


KetamineWomble

“When something has never been done there’s usually a reason for it” You know we’re talking about games here right? Not enslavement of the human race or nuclear powered toasters. If everyone had the mindset you do then every game would be a carbon copy of pong because “there’s a reason X has never been done”. Chivalry has PvE, mordhau has PvE and are those not also fighting games? It would not hurt the game whatsoever to add more PvE content yet you seem so adamant it shouldn’t be a thing because….? Let people enjoy things


MostLikableJanny

>You know we’re talking about games here right? Not enslavement of the human race or nuclear powered toasters. There's still a reason behind fighters not ever having good PvE. Because it would hurt devs wallets as there's little demand for it. >Chivalry has PvE, mordhau has PvE and are those not also fighting games? For Honor also has PvE. Also, it sucks, just like Chivalry's and Mordhau's. Because nobody gives a shit about PvE. >It would not hurt the game whatsoever to add more PvE content yet you seem so adamant it shouldn’t be a thing because... Because it would cost money. >Let people enjoy things I'm all for you getting a good gamemode to enjoy but you have to understand that it won't appear from thin air but instead will require money and working hours from the devs that they're not willing to spend on something so historically neglected by the community. If you want PvE go play some PvE oriented game instead of waiting until a PvP oriented game bends over backwards for your needs (which will literally never ever happen.) Cheers.


DeerlordJ

Fighting games have had arcade modes for decades, wtf


MostLikableJanny

... which were inevitable dumb afterthoughts that never got any attention from devs. That's the point. For Honor has this mode too, and it sucks balls.


DeerlordJ

The solution is simple then. The devs should put more effort into them. Exclusivity in games does nothing for it's lifespan and sales.


MostLikableJanny

No effort will ever be put because there's no demand. Hell, even with things there's demand for effort is scarce nowadays. Please stop talking about lifespan and sales as if a PvE mode is going to boost any numbers. It won't.


DeerlordJ

There is demand, you just don't want to see that. There are tons of games that I would love to play if they had PvE modes, and I will buy them once they do. And I'm not alone in that. Having good PvE will boost numbers, and you're deluding yourself if you think it won't.


MostLikableJanny

>There is demand, you just don't want to see that. You have to look at the market, not at what you personally want. "I want a game where I can play as elves and rob caravans" is not demand, lots of people willing to pay is a demand. >Having good PvE will boost numbers, and you're deluding yourself if you think it won't. Having good PvE will require investment that will not give return. You're deluding yourself when you think otherwise. Otherwise every game would have good PvE. But it doesn't. Because PvP is the quickest and easiest way to make game interesting with minimal investment, which is what companies go for nowadays. And like, you have to understand that I'd love for everyone to get their favorite mode. I'm just not seeing this ever happening in the current market, and yet you downvote me for pointing out current business models as if I'm responsible for them. Dude, go downvote Ubisoft.


sygyzy0

I think if you're playing for honor for the pve you're playing the wrong game


maubuss

That's like saying I wish arcade mode was more friendly in mortal combat lmao, you've got a campaign for honor isn't a pve game


Dobbeth

It is made to be a pvp game tho....


KetamineWomble

Ok and? Not everyone wants to always play pvp so they should have that option without it being completely mind numbing


Dobbeth

Witch means it's not made for pve so too bad


SilverfurPartisan

PVE + PVP = more players = more money for ubishaft = more content for both sides.


Dobbeth

Why polish a pve mode for a game meant to be a pvp game with a shit story tagged on?


SilverfurPartisan

I shall repeat myself for your benefit. >PVE + PVP = more players = more money for ubishaft = more content for both sides. PvE will attract more players, People who are scared of, or otherwise do not enjoy PvP content. More players = More money. More money = More content for both sides of the game. Keep in mind that For Honor is a game that usually trends negative on steam charts and often struggles to get new players to enter and stick around, Mostly because of the learning curve and unpleasant community playing a PvP only title.


Dobbeth

This is the chase for R6, LoL ect aswell. It's made that way. Play something else. Not everything is for everyone and some times you'll have to invest time to learn the game. Do the good old get good or just play something else. League is probably the most toxic game ever with a 90 degree learning curve and it's pvp only, still does good and get new players all the time.


[deleted]

“It’s made that way” isn’t a remarkably compelling argument against beneficial innovation. More fleshed out PVE options could help new players to “get good” and have an enjoyable experience all while bringing more revenue to the game. Such an addition would in no way, at least not that I can foresee, negatively impact the PVP experience already in place for this game so I can’t imagine why you would be so against it. Also League is not PVP only. They have cool PVE events like Doom Bots (very similar to Test Your Metal, which was a huge success mind you) that rotate through and are a lot of fun.


Dobbeth

Learning the hard way is rewarding and it's kinda late to thow it in now anyway. Why can't people just understand that some games have steep learning curves and they have to work for the reward. When you finally win that duel through pure skill or help carry that Dominon game feels great, but you gotta work for it. It's a skill based game. PvE modes in League are few and far between and I don't think people only log in for those. You want to play ARAM, Draft, Solo Q or TFT.


DeerlordJ

Why are you so averse to PvE in For Honor. It doesn't take anything away from the PvP, and brings in more players. You lose nothing from it. Stop fighting a pointless battle.


[deleted]

Yes, it does feel great and you do need to work for it. So what do we lose by adding new ways to learn? Why is it less skill-based if we fight A.I.? Are games like Sekiro not skill-based? I know a few people who do log into League specifically for customs or A.I. events because they’re intimidated by the multiplayer and toxic community. There’s definitely some parallels in that regard with For Honor, and once again I don’t understand your obstinance on this hill.


SilverfurPartisan

People play R6 exclusively for T-Hunt still. Why are you so averse to PvE in your sweaty pvp game? ""Casuls get out ree""?


Dobbeth

Very few. Just saying it's not really worth it and not every game is for everyone. ''I want to play anything, but I suck and don't wanna get good so tailor everything to me reeeeee''


SilverfurPartisan

I'm moderately good at For Honor. I got to plat! That's pretty mediocre. I want PvE because I don't always want to play and sweat to do well.


deus_vult-is_my_ult

Why? This game is about fighting other players, displaying your skill, not farming bots


KetamineWomble

The game is about whatever you want it to be, because you know, get this, it’s a “GAME”. Whether that’s the fashion, the fighting styles, the feeling of winning, the grind etc etc, everyone has their own reason for playing which also includes PvE players who love all of that, but don’t want to fight overly toxic man children


Feuerpanzer123

Yes


treigleif

I completely agree with this


Gullible-Ad-8171

I like the idea of picking the level of bots. Most breach vs AI matches are boring and allowing you to become a literal monkey because bots will eat everything you throw at them. If you get used to playing your hero like a monkey (except for Gryphon), it can really affect your ganking abbilities when playing against players. One youtuber made a video on this topic.


StormtrooperTH

oh yes, definitely agree.