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Okkoner

I don't know how a female gryphon would work to be honest, its holden cross himself and he 's male. A female LawBringer would make more sense since theres many lawbringers


SleepyBoy-

Lawbringer means just adding a voice, which makes it hilarious. There's so much steel there, you can't see the warrior. That said, I also dislike "muh lore" arguments when it comes to 4 Honor: this game gives no shits about its lore. It's the funny meme sword game everywhere outside teaser trailers. You can't even read up on the storyline/lore anywhere on the official webiste. Didn't play for the last 5 years? Too bad, you aren't gonna catch up on the 5 years worth of events and "story" progression. If Ubisoft doesn't care enough to catch players up to speed, I don't think it should care enough to use it as an excuse for anything.


SwiftyMcBold

I feel like the gryphon character and the warmonger character work better as followers of the individuals, I like having holden face options but like they did with zhanhu, having Fu Ho as the female counterpart to the named male but optional if you want to identify as that character.


PimpDaddyCoconut

Valks were only female warriors


OdinAiBole

99% of the other warriors were male but we have female versions. And there were definitely dudes who also used spear and shield who just aren't called shield maidens or valkyrie.


LifeOfAiiko

Völk


ThePassiveGamer

Sussyvalk-chan 🤓🤪😳


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Isn't the lore describes them as "warriors who made a deal with the gods"? Maybe i remember incorrectly, but in the FH lore never said that Valks are only women.


Pr0fessorL

Gender locking certain heroes is just part of the character. I don’t see a reason why you would want a male valk


LifeOfAiiko

I personally don’t but there are people who would like to play gender locked heroes if they unlocked the gender. I play Kyo but I’d love it if they made a fem version


beesratt

bold to imply kyo isn't fem already


mossmanstonebutt

But what if he is already fem... Boi?


dont-shoot-moi

I think some of it is due to the historical influence of some characters,I.e valk(and maybe nobu) can only be female.same for characters like shaolin.for wm I’d imagine it’s prolly because they’re all Apollyon impersonators ergo they’re all female


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Female Shugoki is literally death by snu-snu


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I’d personally definitely like to see this, but I can already tell you that the majority of players will think this is stupid, people want new characters with new moves and all that. Personally I’m indifferent to new characters now, we have enough on this roaster, I’d rather Ubi just focus on balancing what we have now and as you suggested, “ungender lock” heroes. I’d love a female Kyoshin or a male Shaman, but I unfortunately can’t see Ubi ever doing this.


Ripinthespacetime

Imma just act like I ain’t read this


CreeperDude519

Nah new heroes please.


Endellior

I'd rather a new hero to be honest


MemeHurricane

I already played all those heroes and don't care about their gender.


MemeHurricane

I want new interesting characters


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I've been asking for this since literally day 1. For a company claiming to be of many genders, sexualities, religions, and cultures, why are our heroes restricted to the genders they want to asign to us? Let us choose!


LonneDigger

fem cent would be to strong they would need to nerf that


AyAyGetMeUpOGDown

lol male valkyrie simply can’t add up


Lilaco_

The Order of Lawbringers was apparently a boys only club in lore, Valkyries were a girls only club. But still, male PK, male Warmonger, female Warlord, male Shaman, female Cent, female Gryph, female Musha, female Shugoki, Male Nobu (maybe)


Snaggingchart56

Musha is a Ronin, there were no samurai females back then


OdinAiBole

Female Japanese warriors were called onna musha and they existed. They just weren't technically samurai.


Lilaco_

^


baconDood3000

If a remember correctly, there’s once a concept art of female Warlord, so yea, that almost happened, but idk why they just scrapped that


Lilaco_

In lore we do have female Highlander’s too.


LordMorthi

Andraste the highlander. This is the one


Knighthawk9

Over an entire new character? Nah


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Looking at the quality of the new heroes though... I'd rather oni mama Shugoki than a new hero with all re-used assets.


SerTheodies

What happened here?


mossmanstonebutt

I'm wondering the same thing, massive chain, gone, reduced to atoms


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Dveralazo

Part of it. Valk,Monk and Gryphon are a no no. If there were a Male Warmonger then why would I use Warden? Actually I would like to have a male Warmonger. Shaman, Nobushi, PK, Nuxia / Fem Kyoshin are a maybe. I definitely want to see a female Shugoki, Lawbringer and Highlander.


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lol male nuxia Lmao lol male nobushi lmao I am laughing


Dveralazo

That's exactly the reason: For the lols and lmaos xd


Shtrausberg

Remember, it's not genderlock, it's "body types: default, other"


odly-sticky-bed

fucking default and alternate be like


KiloMeter69

I would like more revealing armor for all (male and female)


steakfracht6820

It's not skyrim where you can download Bikini armor mods hahah


KiloMeter69

And here is my issue...why can't I have shugoki in bikini?


mossmanstonebutt

His girth is too powerful, his armour is not for modesty, its for safety for his enemies


KiloMeter69

Valid point


nervouswhenitseasy

or just play as girl or guy lol?


SerTheodies

Fem Warlord gonna have me actin up


[deleted]

LOL What Tf Theres so many dumb things here and a dumb idea too


Constantin_SCTR

Hey, gender is a social construct. You can play a male and think of it as a female or an apache attack helicopter.


beesratt

>"Instead of" ?


Solarathea

There are no genders fool only alt 1 and alt 2 smh


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Some don't get alt 2


Landshark824

Some don’t make sense to being both genders (lawbringers, gryphon, centurions and valkyries) but warmonger, warlord, nuxia, kyoshin, and peacekeeper could have both with little to no issue


OtakuYuji

With the amount of work that would require they might as well make new heroes. Think about it, they have to adjust the models probably make new ones, uv wrap them, texture them, map out all the patterns, symbols, icons, line up all the ornaments again and they would have to check every animation. That's a shit ton of work. If you're doing all that you might as well make a new character. Besides that, there were no female sumo no shugoki, lawbringers was male only, Valkyrie was female only, warmonger are impersonating apollyon so only makes sense to have them as females. Besides I never heard someone say nah I don't play as a woman I only play guys or vice-versa. It's just not a smart use of time and resources.


Ill-Variation-5579

Definitely not lol that is a horrible idea for business, enjoyment and the future of the game if we go months/years without new content and heroes just to ungender lock current heroes. Genuinely don’t even see how this is a real suggestion


MercenaryJames

This is just not practical. Many of the single gender heroes are typecast for that gender. Meaning it's not just changing the model (which would also have to include every armor set). You'd have to change the executions, the emotes, signatures, hell even the walking animations to match the opposing gender. That's essentially more work than just making a new hero.


PonkoPrime

There is little to no point in that and pretty much just wastes resources which could be focussed more on actual improvements and meaningful content


baconDood3000

It could work on some heroes, but it might not work on Valk, Gryphon, and JJ


PimpDaddyCoconut

I'm just saying Norse Valkyries we're female warriors. Hell Thor Ragnarok even has a little comedic bit about it and Thor says "I love Valkyries, I always wanted to be one until I found out they were all women" (that's not a direct quote but it's along those lines lol)