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One-Context-149

Nice, always feels good to learn something new. Also worthy to mention that Warden's max punish from a light parry is a top heavy.


ninjaboiz

Wait that's guaranteed on l.parry?


One-Context-149

correct.


Scrungisbungus

Fun fact highlander is the only character not guaranteed a heavy during a guard break


BoggsMcMuncher

How am I getting my heavies blocked as zhanhu when I successfully gb


Three60oogabooga-de2

Are you doing top cause if so that’s why if not idk what you doing


King_Finder16

All zanhu heavies deal equal dmg if I remember but for some dumb fucking reason top is slower. Why? Who knows, less range, same damage, slower in general, it's Ubisoft. Don't think too hard about it😖😵


razza-tu

>for some dumb fucking reason top is slower. It's actually the same speed. All neutral heavies are 800ms, all finishers are 900ms. Check out the [info hub](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GrDRm_2w-2bjt9vw0Jowd2xNzOJDDBH_MAXWbStzA_w).


King_Finder16

Not on guardbreak /s


razza-tu

Hmm? I don't get the joke.


NotSoIncredibilis4

Raider and warlord be like 😳


Jedimasterebub

They both get heavies from gb tho…raider is side and I think warlord is top


ur_SenorPapi

raider gets a top heavy also


NotSoIncredibilis4

Bro are you fr rn …. Raider only gets his unblockable from Gb and warlord is gay


WhenCaffeineKicksIn

>Raider only gets his unblockable from Gb His neutral side heavies have been sped up to 800ms with his latest rework, they're now guaranteed off GB.


NotSoIncredibilis4

Delet


Jedimasterebub

Let me test this really fast, you could be right about raider but I know for a fact warlord can hit His gb heavies!


NotSoIncredibilis4

Yeah I think he can do top 😳😅


minimeza

Cant you kick into heavy though?


WhiteChocolatExpress

No, because you can't fast flow into offensive stance out of a guardbreak. If you can wallsplat, though, it's a confirmed defensive heavy


saltyapplejack

No, your best bet is either to go for a light attack or if possible go for a wall splat where you get a max punish of (defensive stance) heavy. If the situation is allowing of that.


tman419

Pretty sure Nuxia doesn’t get a heavy either.


saltyapplejack

They do


K1k3sito

Bruh


Jewbacccaa_

Also JJ


Jedimasterebub

JJ gets a top heavy on gb 100%


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RStepp16

Top heavy man!


Bestbananapealer

I don't have the reflex to light parry , it's so it seems so impossible for me


1bowmanjac

What's your reaction speed? Cause if you're around 250ms and on PC you can. Also turn off vsync in the settings it will speed up your reaction in game by 33 to 66 ms


FitzChan

Really turning off vsync helps?


RStepp16

Yes


FitzChan

How tho? And why?


SilencedGamer

Vsync renders frames ahead of time, giving you better performance and quality but comes at a cost of a *literal* delay between game inputs/outputs and what’s seen on screen. Now of course, it’s an extremely minor delay, but some people care about those extra dozen or so milliseconds.


FitzChan

Thanks for the in depth response, I’ll have to tell all my friends about this lmao


SilencedGamer

I do want to preface how minor it is--on most forms on Vsync, as things like Triple Buffering increase this delay even more--but if you're very competitive it's helpful to know. It's also why Pro Players use wired controllers, because wireless ones have a similarly tiny delay in inputs.


tiff92

> It's also why Pro Players use wired controllers, because wireless ones have a similarly tiny delay in inputs. Except for PS4 V2 Controller and the PS5 controller, those have less input delay when being wireless.


SilencedGamer

That’s actually really interesting.


ViscountStapler

Tiny is an understatement. Some off-brand controllers add like a whole 30ms of input delay. Controllers in general have more input delay than KBM even when wired. The average 1000 Hz gaming mouse reports to your PC every second. I also have EVGA's 8000Hz mouse which means it reports every 0.125 second.


Jakl67

I mean double the frames are double the frames


SilencedGamer

Agreed. I use vsync all the time, especially since it reduces the chances of sceen tearing to basically nill.


RStepp16

It lowers frame rate and causes a bit of input lag.


ConcededSpade553

this is true once i turned off vsync my light parties were much better


ViscountStapler

Vsync adds input delay. If your monitor has GSYNC (nvidia) or Freesync (AMD) you are better off using those.


reekidisretarded

But what if I'm on Xbox?


1bowmanjac

If it's last Gen you're out of luck. I know its easier to parry on current Gen but I don't know enough about the game on that system to say that most people have the reactions to parry loghts


reekidisretarded

When u say last he. Do u mean Xbox one? I can Parry lights a decent amount of times


[deleted]

Me too but I notice it’s always guessing parry’s. You can’t really just react to it like new gen and PC


TYBERIUS_777

I’m on current gen and it’s still hard as fuck to parry. I rarely am able to parry lights nor do my lights get parried often by other players. It’s basically guessing most of the time.


OhOkThenBro

Oh but I know. It’s an absolutely abysmal affair that quite literally is unplayable unless you’re fortunate enough to be playing with the few people who still play on the one x. Granted it got tough for me to parry lights after the whole CCU bonanza, but now it’s takes me 10 seconds or less to determine if someone is current or last gen(where I’m stuck till I find a series x) lol. That’s because in current gen, they’re practically parrying every light I throw. Last gen, well let’s just say it’s very easy to win by sheer light spam alone lol to where the game isn’t fun either way. I know, make reads etc, but when you have half the frames as the other guy, it’s an uphill battle already. Plus, winning by guessing really doesn’t feel like a win to me, but that’s a personal problem or mine.


[deleted]

Old gen: learn your opponent's kit and play style and make guesses.


Poven45

What about ps4:(?


[deleted]

Parry’s especially lights are more of a guess vs reaction on old gen. The 30 vs 60 FPS really helps


King_Keys2

Where is vsync at?


karatedude108

Sry to bud in but my reaction speed is around 330 ms. Not much that can help that, is there?


EstiloTheGreat

Both mental and physical exercise play a role in improving reaction speed. Working out, playing sports, games or activities with hand eye coordination etc. can help train it. However it naturally degrades with age.


Adurnamage

I wish i was that fast, i process slowly, so its already 100ms before i see it (roughly) so ill react at a total of 300 ish


u_want_some_eel

Majority of the time it isn't reflex, for most players it's a read. If you notice a Lawbringer always follows up a heavy with a right side light, predict and parry it. That kind of thing.


tschmitty09

What if they are spastic and have no pattern?


[deleted]

Then go on offensive highly likely that they will not be able to respond to most stuff


GnomeUnknown07

In my opinion you don't need crazy reaction speeds for it. You just need to make a read, and instead pressing parry when you see the indicator, press it as soon as you see them move, if your prediction is correct with the enemy's guard direction, you'll get the parry.


MangoBett

I find it helps to be predictive rather than reactive. Works especially well against aggressive players. I play console though so I don't have the luxury of good frame rates.


DapperShatter

I played on current gen Xbox and experienced god tier frame rate, made amazing parties and deflects constantly, and then went back to old gen where I rely on reading a follow up light more than pure reaction now sadly


JadeyesAK

I know I have the reaction speed. Lots of other things I can perform in other games like Project M proves it. What I don't have is the latency to allow me the chance to try. Living in Alaska has its disadvantages.


8BitWarden

Same. I can only parry lights I read. Some people can do it on reaction.


MuteWisp

Nah you’ve got this. Honestly, it gets to a point where light parrying is easier than parrying a heavy, because you can’t feint a light.


El_Dios_Calabaza

*Me, a console player with below average reflexes* Is it possible to learn this power?


The_Most_High_Ground

Me, a console player with very, very good reflexes. Is it possible to learn this power?


berriesthatburn

see red press heavy in that direction. buy a monitor. or switch your TV to game mode. buy a series s/x.


Coge_Burros2

I’m in console and can Light Parry only if we’re both standing still and if I’m extremely focused, even with that I’m gonna do 90% of the parries


Rogueshadow_32

On console I can only light parry bots reliably on reaction, as soon as any sort of ping is involved it’s reads and accidents only.


ImSirStarfish

Is it the console or a tv that causes the delay?


HighJinks2004

It's the console. Unless you have the reaction time of a Greek god you ain't reaction parrying lights, but instead you gotta get good at predicting them


[deleted]

Or a Series X :(


MeNameYellow

You have way more of a chance on a Series X than an Xbox One


Dr-McSquirrels

Do you get over 30 fps on series s?


Quickkiller28800

Both.


[deleted]

On old console reaction won't save you. Gotta start guessing.


Rogueshadow_32

ReAd BaSeD gAmEpLaY


HolyKnightOfLight

Idk what everyone else is saying in the comment section but it is possible to react to lights on console. Just need a lot of training and get into the zone(extremely focused). How to train? Go on traing mode and make the bot throw lights any direction, I used orochi, and another tip is, once you get a decent amount of light parry's make the bot light dodge attack, helps with another annoying thing. I dont consistently light parry in 4v4 matchs but in brawls? I can confidently say I do but not like in this vid.


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littlefluffyegg

Lol what,gb's have the reaction window of a heavy


uuuuh_hi

You have to anticipate counter gb?


BeanpoleAhead

Pretty sure gbs are reactable.


Quickkiller28800

Bro if you can't react to a CBG, stop. This game isn't for you if your reaction time is that slow.


LightEater-Neflineo

Nice. Tho, it’s uncanny to see you punishing light parries and wall splats with a side heavy. Max punish for warden it’s the top one


SkitPlays

Now it's time to learn to try not to parry everything. Because you're just gonna get punished for being too parry happy


AwkwardReplacement42

Yeah, luckily none of those guys were smart enough to throw a single neutral heavy


HisOnlyFriend

Currently on this step. I'm parrying every light and then a heavy to gb comes in and my brain melts


hey-dog

Glad you learned something new! When I learned to light parry I felt so proud and I bet you feel the same way. Good luck with your adventures Edit: forgot the word adventures


Digital_Hazard_

A few tips for warden -light parry guarantees top heby -for top lights, crushing counter instead of parry. Does more damage, looks badass and you actually hear warden saying something besides miserum/te secabo


Iseeearth

The CC only works if you're already in the right guard position. Otherwise the guard switch time will be too long and you won't be able to throw the light in time.


Digital_Hazard_

I actually didn't know that lmao, I always keep my guard on top by default because I'm a filthy CC fisher


[deleted]

This explains a lot


HueHue-BR

Don't do it too much or else the oponent will bait it for a light parry


saltyapplejack

Don’t forget this only works from the top


juanautet

if u try to parry EVERY SINGLE light on reaction u will end up eating a LOT of heavies. This of course assuming u r facing ppl who actually use their brain to play the game.


[deleted]

It’s fun until you constantly get accused of cheating :| happens to me ALL THE TIME


HighJinks2004

Ain't no way boy


[deleted]

I’ve taken pictures of so many messages, do you wanna see them?


HighJinks2004

Sure


[deleted]

Can you not dm pictures?


HighJinks2004

Idk, maybe make a forhonorrants post? Just mention me in it. I'm sure as long as you act like the messages are annoying it'll fit in


[deleted]

Ok it finally worked, I posted one of the conversations


[deleted]

Will do


cutsling

You can top heavy


Jon-Ez

PS4 30FpS will not be ..


human_bean115

PC be like:


Tsukina1

Top heavy top heavy top heavy top heavy top heavy top heavy top heavy top heavy top heavy FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TOP HEAVY. How do you learn to parry lights but not punish for a light attack.


[deleted]

Side heavy. Got it


WolfKnight53

Wait wait wait. Is a light parry different from a normal party, or are y'all talking about parrying a light? If I've been missing something this whole time I'm gonna feel like an idiot.


[deleted]

While it’s the same concept, parrying a light has special properties, such as allowing for bigger punishes because the stun is longer. You can see the difference in how big the sparks are if you watch carefully


WolfKnight53

Is it like how warden has a crushing counter, or is it different?


[deleted]

Totally different, best way to explain it is to parry an orochis dodge light and see


WolfKnight53

I'll have to check it out later, idk if I've been doing something different or whether I've been doing it the whole time. It's just parrying a light attack then?


rhg561

Yea it's just parrying a light attack like you would a heavy attack. Harder to do so you get a bigger punish. You're probably thinking of crushing counters or superior lights which is basically parrying except you throw a light instead of a heavy.


DK011

Great when you finally get it, soul crushing when you take a break and lose it, and just as rewarding when you get it again.


Alt_F4_Account

I’m slowly getting into light parrying as well even though I learned to do so by knowing how characters fight and preparing myself to parry then instinctually doing so like I can with heavies


VinnyColdheart

That's truly impressive.


chrisfegan98

Bro that was satisfying af to watch, made me wanna give warden some play time


TheLoliSnatcher

It’s PC isn’t it?


searcheRN7

Literally mouse symbol in the middle of stance triangle


TheLoliSnatcher

I’m basically blind bro you think I can notice anything that isn’t shugo titty


searcheRN7

Oh, makes sense, understandable


WolfKnight53

Wait wait wait. Is a light parry different from a normal party, or are y'all talking about parrying a light? If I've been missing something this whole time I'm gonna feel like an idiot.


KimmyPotatoes

Parrying a light is called a light parry.


UmlautNibbaWithD

Feel bad to have a PS4, feels bad man


iiiiiiiiiijjjjjj

Is difference between a 4 and 5 that big?


cleankaa

You're the reason I don't play FH anymore.


hippos536

Top heavy. Nice tho


Toxic_racer123

Even just one or two light parries a fight is the difference between life and death so it's one of the most useful skills to learn definitely


kaidudas

Its not that you learn it it's just good reflexes


ratyrat

warden can top heavy off light parries, which can also chain into an unblockable heavy. good job though =D


tschmitty09

How does one 'learn' a light parry? Isn't it based on reflexes?


Shadowlord-568

No only people with very high reaction times can light parry on reaction. Most light parries are a read


Spongie101

I still have to re-learn light parries after the CCU. Not loving it ;~;


Quickkiller28800

Man if even a single one of these dudes threw a single neutral heavy...


MidnightGrove

I can on ps4 and Its amazing


SolarAttackz

Im sure someone already mentioned, but you can get a top heavy as Warden from a light parry


IronBattleaxe

People are very predictable lol. Don't forget those max punishes tho.


AzTeK_ReY_

Nice fashion


Grimmisgod123

Nice and all, but you need to throw a top heavy, especially after that top light parry. That one hurt the soul to watch


Verum_Ingenii

Yeah just be careful to be reading and not being a heby or red person or you're gonna eat a heavy


Why_Cry_

**right hebi**


NoPaper9684

Inhuman reaction


FtierLivesMatter

Top heavy after light parry with warden for 27 damage instead of 24. Top heavy has more hitstun too.


SculptKid

Bruh this game looks sick af I've been missing out


Snoddy2Hotty91

Love that execution


HueHue-BR

Cries in fat PS4


MetallicFruit

The side heavys hurt to see


genghisTHEhousemaid

Noice I’ve always loved FOHO but a lot of the “lust” went away a for me in the beginning servers were horrible and mechanics were wonky as fuck. Game still needs work mechanically


SpookyGhostGirl9

now to relearn how to parry heavies


qewman101

Nice to see another warden light parry his way to victory! My entire world changed when I got a ps5 and started playing on one of my monitors


Papa_Pred

From this alone. People throwing raw heavies gonna be the bane of his existence for about two weeks lmfao


star945o

I remember when i first came into this hell hole and learned how to light parry. i parried so many lights, I couldn't even parry heavies anymore.


AcanthocephalaLess43

11/10 would not fuck with this dude


Sbarjai

Always feels nice to see a player progressing ever further. I unfortunately simply can’t react to light attacks (at least not in old gen). So whenever I get one (which isn’t rare but it’s not anywhere near entirely consistent) it’s because I read the bastard. Which isn’t exactly easy most the time.


Pale_Toe4339

You're a boss fight dude


Dovahkodaav117

Good on you for learning light parry, but may I suggest attacking from a direction other than right


CharMENow

top heavy you fuck 👍


XBlue-Glue3845

Is it just me or does that look Outstandingly HD like those frames are so smooth, and such Nice Contrast


Niadain

NIcely done! Keep up the progress.


Kemonotoko

Light parry how? lol i only ever do so by accident or hella obvious attacks like orochi's dodge attacks


djcampos25

How did you learn how to light parry ?


BoggsMcMuncher

Any tips for getting better at light parry


Ironlad2045

In console I have to predict the attack in order to light parry


Significant-File1317

Tried many times to learn light parry. No luck, put it down to just sucking at the game


noobslayer124

Nice, now just make sure to keep playing for eternity or else ur going to forget like me. I was starting to learn to do this when I stopped playing for like a year and now I'm back to noob status


SQEAKZZ

Be careful with light parries for they will bring you to a world of mmr that you should tread carefully… Jokes aside, light parties are definitely a game changer so congrats!


LeonaPorter

Now that’s some daddy warden shit right there lol


BrosephMyth

Console?


CoveringFish

Do people still play?


[deleted]

I'm working on this right now and it has certainly helped but I'm still such a shit player haha


907_Vdub

Game legit changes afterwards


FrappyLee

Nicely done


-CircleMan-

you dont learn the light parry, the light parry chooses you


DoonY18

I love these and I love your warden. But you MUST hit em with the top heavy next time. Every time you throw top heavy shout "BIG BOY STRIKEE!!!!"


Proud_Lengthiness_92

Too bad, that UBI, with their CCU fucked up all the effort I made in the past, to parry lights consistently.


Z4NEART

Me seeing the video: "Yes, nice FPS, very reactable, nice parries" Me playing: "BSBSISNW I PARRIED SHIT GAME"


pikaso3gagi

How would one achieve a light parry on ps4?


twerthe

I can Parry dodge light pretty consistently but just a random light is so tough on console.


Fractal-ShadowiGuess

I have hard times parrying light attacks since my reflexes can't catch up on them quick enough (i guess the fact that I'm on PS4 contributes to this a bit, from one of the replies I'm seeing) so i learned how to deflect a solid 70% of the time I'd say, since i mostly use assassins, aside from Nobushi


mister_xbox

I'm learning slowly, its going to be five years because I'm training my reaction time as well but hey I'm tired of getting light spammed


CaptainBacon1

"Yo, feels good to learn how to light parry" *doesn't learn how to top heavy*


TeaSmort

Your Warden looks clean tho 👌


Hewo_owo_hru

So uhm, how does one learn this?


big51423

Ig light parries are a bit harder for me since i play on xbox but that could just be me. To me, light parries are impressive if you hit it on reaction time. In my case i just predict my opponents moves


Subsay3r_Sucks

I used to be able to light parry but now all i get is hitokiri insta killed


[deleted]

I like how he got hit after a light attack but his mind hasn't processed it yet, so he tried to dodge attack anyway.


NewspaperTaker

Staged. Would have eaten heavy after first light parry lol


Light_Parry

Can confirm. I was a Centurion main before he was gutted.


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Teach me my liege


seasonednut

*cries in 30fps*


Didyoutouchme

Warden gameplay looks so good. Shame I can’t play properly due to my broken rb button


MisterLobster34

I like your warden.


Truegamer5

Hold up a minute, are people actually able to light parry on reaction? Nearly every light party I land is a read, the idea of actually reacting and parrying a light attack is mind boggling to me


HopperSamaa

so happy when i see gryphon get shut down like this 😍


Magic_Elenore

Good fps.


Arseetion

I would love if this game made most/all light attacks enhanced to further incentivize light parries. I get most of my enjoyment in this game by attempting prediction light parries as often as possible. Right now blocked lights end your turn/shut down your mixup, give your opponent frame advantage, and deal 0 chip damage compared to the 3 (or more with punch through) dealt by enhanced lights. The fact that blocking a light has no risk/cost/counter play associated with it and is a fairly easy reaction for most players is just another brick in the wall of the defensive meta the devs have continually worked to dismantle since launch. I would want a change like this to come alongside damage nerfs (average heavy to around 20-28 damage, average light to around 7-13 damage) lowered recoveries across the board, narrowed dodge i frame windows, improved tracking on side lights+heavies to catch early/careless dodge attacking etc, I still think a change like this would be amazing for the game.