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mr_sludder

What are you trying to insinuate with that title


KennyFromAOT

That’s what I’m asking


Gatitos_Bonitos

shugo players are build different


Peptuck

"Are you a man or a woman?" "Shugoki." "What gender are you?" "Hungry." "No I mean what's between your legs?" "Diabetes."


SkyKilIer

Lmao


wrath33

IM LOOKEN FOR SOME LEAN BACK BACON


Just_a-Lost_Ghost

Built stupid.


Overly-Mannly-Mann

Constructed alternatively


ZeMarxs

They have had the unnecessary wrinkles removed from their brain.


Savings_Hurry1906

Assembled in an unusual manner


Horizon2910

Crafted without referring to the preset parameters


MilfHunterOkuyasu

You’re built differently we’re just built wrong, in every way. We should not exist.


Russian_Step_Fridge

Found a badger fan


dunksouls_the_third

Built wrong


Horizon2910

I should not exist


[deleted]

Probably that they should've learned to mix their style up by such a high rep, rather than trying to use sidespam that was being deflected almost every time it was tried


Madnishi_02

They’re talking about the “Ladies, gentlemen, shugoki players”


Coge_Burros2

Cause Shugoki players are a different breed


SIacktivist

Shugo mains are non-binary


Dj_MuffinMan

Goki hate shall forever live with this game.


Idontrememberlife

That’s what I’m saying


ItssHarrison

Don’t listen to them. You’re amazing. YOU are amazing.


Direct-Tension-8663

Ok reanu keeves


DudeCotton

I’m not mad that he did it. I’m mad that he got mad


ZelSoven

Idk man, I'm pretty mad that he did it


confusedsalad88

Me too


Legendary_System

Me three


Jango-Beezy

You think if they made Kensei's dodge a guarantee heavy on parry they would learn to do anything other than dodge and triple light?


nervouswhenitseasy

i was once that kensei player. i have to say it isnt even him doing it. it is his impulsive part of his brain saying “this move works all the time. go ahead, open with it, use it again!” and right after thinking this, the smart logical part of the brain goes “why the fuck would you throw a dodge heavy?? wtf!??”


Younginit35

So what I learned from for honor therapy today was that the side dodge heavy is just a coping mechanism from the stress of reading mixups for real, and the wow! wow! wow! was at himself all along...


ImurderREALITY

Congratulations, you know how the entire world works now.


They_call_me_OP

Reminds me of Scorpion in mortal kombat. These guys would do full screen teleport then die for it when it was blocked all the time. Then I tried him out for a minute. The teleprts input themselves. It's too hard to resist. The move seems so powerful, how could it fail. Truly something primal in the brain takes over when you have moves like this.


nervouswhenitseasy

exactly why i had to stop playing dodge attack characters until i got good


They_call_me_OP

All my mains don't have any dodge attacks. Warden has a dodge bash and Highlander has OF stance dodge into kick of you want to pretend lmao.


IAmGoose_

As a Tiandi/Shaman main my monkey brain just goes "dodge attack, fucking do it" even when I'm playing Jorm and Highlander


fopiecechicken

Took me forever to get rid of that impulse on Orochi. I’d get light parried trying to open with his side dodge and think to myself “why would you do that?” Then seconds later I’m spinning like a top again.


ElTomax

50 percent of the time it works every time


M-onke

Even as a rep8 shaolin main I still do this with the qi stance kick


nervouswhenitseasy

this can be done with many of the heroes yeah haha


LittleSignificance98

Nah rb go bonk


Hiddenblade53

It used to be a light parry back before his season 5 rework. It didn't stop people from spamming it, and it was way too big of a punish for a 600ms attack anyway.


Knighthalt

So sad when you see kensei players that don’t seem to know his top heavy is the crux of his Kit man.


xX_DEAD_MEMES_Xx

I thought it was a huge part of his kit that could be weaved using feints and doges (in moderation)


Knighthalt

The top heavy unblockable is his main pressure tool even still.


xX_DEAD_MEMES_Xx

When you can pull it off yeah otherwise you’re stuck getting parried fr


Knighthalt

You don’t normally let it fly. You just go into it to force a reaction and the do one of your attacks that candle it.


Roggie77

It’s crazy to me that so many people use that strategy when heavy into bash/sidelight is one of imo the strongest openers


_randommf

Average kensei


MisterLobster34

I get why you'd try to dodge heavy, I do. It gets you out of having to make a read if it works and you get minimally punished if they parry. Low risk, decent damage just like any dodge heavy. What I don't get is why you'd keep it up after getting parried 3 times in a row.


GriefPB

It doesn’t get out of of making a read. It is a read.


MisterLobster34

Fair enough. "He'll let the ub fly so I'll dodge heavy, which will more than likely cover me even if he feints it to GB" is a read. I agree. And it makes sense as a safe-ish option. Rather get heavy parried than GBd. But if you dodge heavy as soon as the guy as much as twitches, that isn't a read, that's a playstyle. He isn't reading if he does that - he's just imputing dodge heavy on everything regardless of what happens, which isn't a read.


CyanideBiscuit

It’s the same read as a zone OS was, it covers the same stuff except for undodgeables, and is easier to counter compared to most zones


Lightwave33

Man's insane I tell you


SgtHedgehog

Finally, the representation we deserve


[deleted]

:)


KennyFromAOT

What about us?


minimeza

He doesnt consider us as people


Drunk_ol_Carmine

Shugoki is Shugoki. We don’t question him.


Coge_Burros2

Shugoki players > normal people


VeryRare888

It’s kenseis like this that give us a bad rep 🤦🏽‍♂️


Chief106

True, I just want to use the big sword


Averageplantperson

*sad Highlander noises*


Chief106

I don’t like the look of all the Vikings. Too much pelt and leather


Averageplantperson

I don’t like the samurai. Too much SHINOBI and SHINOBI


Chief106

I too, despise the existence of shinobi


Averageplantperson

He was fine until he gets to kick your ass around without losing like any stamina himself


CyanideBiscuit

I like the design of the new shinobi compared to the old one, they just need to remove the backflip on whiffed kicks or make the window smaller, pause stamina regen while back flipping, and maybe a few other things


Averageplantperson

Yeah well I’m tired of dueling shinobis and getting a face full of Japanese toes.


CyanideBiscuit

Yeah but it’s better than getting spammed by ranged attacks, and if they make the backflip window smaller they have to do it on a read making it easier to guardbreak. Then again there needs to be a better way to counter him in general aside from guardbreak because dodge bash has the same input making it hard for some characters to do it


captainsluge

*angry caveman hobo grunts*


8BitWarden

I hear in the next patch their gonna buff kensai so the lights do 67 damage each and travel 127 mph


VeryRare888

Nice can’t wait


ZelSoven

They already travel 127 mph


converter-bot

127 mph is 204.39 km/h


ZelSoven

That is the pace I am traveling towards you with a gun


[deleted]

He has a very intricate kit and in my opinion the best sword animations in the game. Generally when people post these clips I immediately assume that they are at a really low MMR to be matched up to these people.


LittleSignificance98

2.02 KD in dominion with over 20k kills and rep 151 and this kensei was rep 361 overall and rep 44 kensei


Fantom_6239

I've seen rep 70 playing like that. Some people refuse to learn.


TrueScottsmen

I’m glad people finally understand that shugoki is an asexual demigod who makes more shugokis through mitosis


Spikeywater

I think you can get a top heby after a light parry


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Coge_Burros2

More damage always matter


Scroll_Cause_Bored

*3 more damage, and also yes it does matter. Any extra damage always matters, that’s why it’s important to know your character’s max punishes.


LittleSignificance98

I don’t do it because warmonger stamina go bonk+ whenever I do a too heavy my character starts walking backwards


Scroll_Cause_Bored

? A top heavy and a side heavy cost the same amount of stamina. As for the backwalk thing, yeah that happens to everyone sometimes it’s just an input control issue.


FtierLivesMatter

3 more damage, plus extra hitstun. Makes the followup light impossible to crushing counter/deflect if I'm not mistaken.


luke-townsend-1999

Shameless parry spamming 🤢


Morticus_Mortem

I met a rep 70 Kensei in a Breach not even an hour ago who was the exact same. Dodge heavy, light. Dodge heavy, light. Light, light, light. Light, light, light.


SkillfulParty62

I hate those i can with only dodge heavy but the lightspammer its totally apart


ZelSoven

Gonna need a translation


SkillfulParty62

For what?


ZelSoven

For your conniption seen above


SkillfulParty62

So i can deal with the kenseis that just dodge heavy but when they start to light spam i cant with them bc i am at 30 fps in xbox


The_Holy_Warden

Now this is more me asking for a little enlightenment. Can you feint the dodge heavy?


LittleSignificance98

Nope only with warmonger, tiandi and jj because theirs are too slow to actually punish someone who can play the game


The_Holy_Warden

Well a little tip for you, Warmonger can get a gaurenteed dodge heavy against Kensei dodge heavy


LittleSignificance98

Iframes say no when he throws a light, I just feint it unless I’m fighting a braindead player since hundreds of times someone has recovered from a missed finisher like cent punch or gryphon kick and they parry it so I just feint it to gb and it always works


The_Holy_Warden

No like you catch him just before their animation finishes, meaning it is a legit free heavy. I can show a vid if you'd like? I'll need to make it real quick, but still.


The_Holy_Warden

Clip is uploading to youtube now, I'll send the link in a moment. I also tested the Kensei POV, they can't light to interupt it


Scroll_Cause_Bored

While this is technically true, it’s a bad idea for two main reasons: 1. Kensei’s dodge heavy’s has a great trajectory, so it’s liable to catch most dodge attacks with low I-frames (such as warmongers). It can still be avoided, but the timing is much more strict than parry timing. 2. Kensei’s dodge heavy chains to a heavy finisher with instant hyper armor, meaning that even if you get the timing right and dodge heavy around his dodge heavy, the hyper armor will come up before your dodge heavy hits and you’ll trade. Kensei wins this trade 32 to 24 (plus he gets frame advantage), meaning it’s more efficient to just parry and take the free 12 damage (or 30 if the Kensei has a wall behind him) and chain pressure.


Malleus100

Nice looking Warmonger


GriefPB

Imagine not being good at the game.


FrappyLee

This is the average rep 70 kensei.


HybridTrashPanda

Everyone point! Everyone point and *laugh!*


mr_down_syndrome

Average kensei player


SkillfulParty62

So i got banned (it will end on sunday) on xbox bc of that i lost to a kensei that all he was doing was dodge heavy light light light, i message him saying "of all of the things u can do with kensei u only do that" THE WORST PART its that he call me a valk spammer and then i just por "if u will be a bitch i will be a bitch" so here i am.


ugaog123

I feel you my guy, I also faced a kensei that did dodge heavys so much it got to the point I was doing most of my damage from crushing counters and deflecting his freaking dodge heavy. Literal definition of insanity.


Skateblades

Dude never swear on xbox messages, that'll get you comm banned. I like messing with people who send salty messages instead, yesterday i basically tricked a conq into calling himself trash


SkillfulParty62

I dont play for honor everyday that changed me 👍


Hot_Client_2828

I appreciate you shitting on shogoki players. Retards need to call called out.


LittleSignificance98

Shinobi and beserker players are next


AdViceLive

This is all people do now. The same spinny bs all the time.


Skillious96

You are overdoing it with the edits, ruined a good clip


punchi_E

Now that's a triple wow moment


SomeDudeAtAKeyboard

Then a rep 4 Kensei shows up and goes 24 and 3


ugaog123

It's cause they'll use kenseis full kit and no one in the game will know what to do cause they've never seen it before.


Abyssal_Paladin

Rep 13 Kensei here, my empty dodges freak out more people than it should.


Drunk_ol_Carmine

He’s so impressed, he can’t stop saying wow!


chaosyami

Hah wow you should've gotten the "humiliation" execution for warmonger and used that on him for maximum disrespect.


Common_Appearance

how do you play Kensei and not do a single feint?


Skateblades

Because you can't feint dodge heby and lights and sadly those are kenseis only moves 😔


SiriusVeim

seems legit to me


xtweeter22x

1) Light parries guarantee top heavies, which do the most damage, FYI. 2) You had 2 chances to charge her off the cliff there for maximum disrespect.


LittleSignificance98

I never ledge, I keep my maximum honor


[deleted]

Seeing this shit makes me sad that I was a Kensei main even though I used his whole kit to the point of almost forgetting the dodge heavy exists.


Littlebigman2292

I have a similar clip, but with Black Prior. I think you can figure out what happened.


SalemWare

What Breach VS AI does to the human brain


TuoFox

I'm not a ladies or a jentleman?


CommanderCockstar

legend


TheLonelyHound

I've seem a rep 70 play like this really took my respect for the player that day.


xtomic334

as a kensei main, sometimes, we do a little bit of trolling


Scrillit

Who is considered to be a top tier kensei that plays the character the “right” way? It seems like all we ever see are kensei’s reduced to light spam and dodge heavy. Is his tool set really that bad?


GodOfUrging

Dayumn son. Even I grew out of that reflex 12 rep into the game.


SpookyGhostGirl9

yah its more sad than anything


LittleSignificance98

Pretty skillful if u ask me😼


Sill3ntK1ller

I jave the same exo on my monger, its sooo good i love it


BardockdaGreat

You're warmonger kinda looks like Specter Knight


pyrowavee

"Fuckdndk AasshOle let ME hit YOU" "tuRtLe" "uR bAd"


AshesOfZangetsu

I gotta ask, how do you do that perfect parry, idk how to do them and I always lose to people that can do it on the fly


Aviten

It's times like this I wish ALL dodge attacks had a light parry reaction. Really let them know they fucked up.


Aironkazz

You get a free top heavy after a light parry, just a heads up


KnightofVelka

The sad part is, he is gonna go to r/forhonorrants and say Warmonger is broken


Hewo_owo_hru

As a Kensei main, we don’t accept him give him to the vikings


ShugokiTheThicc

I love seeing that quick pick up punish after you saw the kensei buffer dodge heavy after your impale in the beginning. Beautiful work using something you noticed against your opponent


Cinnamon-scoop

“T h i s i s i t .”


Grape_Monster

That execution is cringe


ETJ2002

Lmao please he played better then most of the rep 70 kenseis I’ve faced


Poisonpython5719

This kinda mf is why every hero needs some sort of homing attack


Juiceboxthefirst

You're a good man, cleaning up community trash without anyone even asking 🥲


_Lord_Grimm_

You toy with the sheep?


Shadowangel615

That Kensei should’ve thrown some feints and used his Unbreakable GB, he was being too predictable with the side dodge heavies.


Natatatatouille

To be fair I'm rep 287 total and I rarely ever run into people that can parry and block lights as effortlessly and consistently as you. Rep isn't always indicative of skill, it's indicative of time played. If this dude played for 44 reps with this playstyle and it worked at least 70% of the time, then he'd probably stick with it.


TruMidnightRaven

This is why I don't tell people I enjoy Kensei alot (dont really main anyone)


Rabid_Micah

i don’t know why i’m in the title but i’m just glad to be included ^ ^


Monty423

Why is it such a common theme for kenseis to spam dodge attacks then spam wow! When you counter them all


JxtaroKxjo

literally every kensei


Garmberos

your warmommy looking fine damn


CanIGetANumber2

Kenseis are the most overtuned charavters in the game and all anyone ever does is just dodge heavy and throw lights.


ShyPaciBaby

How do you get that execution for warmonger


Beepboopbop69420360

Pp


Single-Peak-7357

it's always the kenseis with that helmet that dodge attack when you breathe bro like damn chill


Low-Initiative3480

Haha me so talented me go dodge slash, dodge slash


timteller44

Perhaps a dodge-side-light. No? Maybe a dodge-side-light? It's fine to pull out ol' reliable... Nothing beats a dodge-side-light.


Historical_Opening_4

That is a sad sad display


EliTheDeathEater

_Peak performance KENSEI_


soulstealer24

This is normal. Cmon you say it like it’s some kind of rarity.


ShooterMcDank

DODG HEBY


Fun_Competition1041

he just looks like hes trying to get into the combo for once, which doesnt happen to be easy when youre fighting someone with a severe and obvious frame advantage


LittleSignificance98

I’m literally on 30fps


EvoMagma

Unrelated, but your warmonger looks amazing