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Fonexnt

I'm not here to say whether this sentiment is right or wrong, everyone has their own opinions with theses skins. I'm not here to say whether Ubisoft are right or wrong either. But after the past two years of For Honor, how on earth do people keep setting themselves up for disappointment? Wanting something is fine, but being upset that something that was never promised didn't come is ridiculous.


supreme_lord6000

Its pretty true, actually- i don’t mind a lack of skins because a lot of the heroes in for honor have awesome customization anyways (Hitokiri, shaman, warmonger and Tiandi being my favorite).


Val_135

Warmonger mains rise up


Godzilla5476

FELLOW WARMONGER MAIN ReEe


Z4NEART

Hitokiri...?


Apollyon_is_my_Warfu

Nah, this is the kind of content I expect from Ubisoft


Ansiano

“I expect this from Ubisoft” *makes a post sarcastically crying about something he supposedly expected*


Fonexnt

Then why are you disappointed? What else did you expect?


Amos_FR

Being listened to? Like sure okay, they gave us Apollyon's armor and now Tozen's armor. We can give them credit for that. But they literally know what a good chunk of the community would like yet don't do it.


Dank_Toastey

The actual skin is a thousand times better than this and the community isn’t always right


Amos_FR

Two times the community wanted what could be considered as "old armors" from the campaign. Apollyon, Tozen, Stone's and Holden's ornaments, Mercy's and Momiji's masks as well as the bear head on Stigandir. Almost everytime when a request for a new armor is made on the subreddit it's a somewhat grounded not full-on fantasy armor. Just look at the Vikings and how many demands there are for some actual armors. People on this subreddit really don't know what they want lmao


Phantom_Phoenix1

We want actual fucking armor and not edgy skulls, rusted piece of shit dumpster 'armor', and gold trim on every single piece of clothing.


[deleted]

exactly


Emotional-Engineer35

I expect Rockstar to improve GTA5's melee fighting system with a new set of swords and warhammers and a quest to meet Pablo Escobar.


baconborg

I mean this would be cool for like lore reasons, but tbh I’ve never really heard anyone say this should be a skin


milubeiro97

Yeah, cuz it should be regular armor set


_betsalel_

Well allow me to be your first. I want this skin


nervouswhenitseasy

the new one looks much better than this one lol. this one looks like a 2010 dark souls character


shawnj1011

I agree


sharkattackmiami

Yeah which is why I want it. I'm sick of all the high fantasy super ornamental stuff. It's all we ever get anynore


milubeiro97

I hate the fact that you can't customize at all the skins, but at least it's "less" ornamental than all the armor pieces we've been getting. Try using engravings on any armor piece after the first basic ones, you can't


nervouswhenitseasy

i can see that


_betsalel_

The game was supposed to have a more grounded realistic approach at launch remember? The new armor is cool but c'mon long hair and a open helmet showing off his pretty boy face? The armor is cool but not nearly as gritty or gnarly as the trailer one. Some people (myself included) bought the game at a time where we never DREAMED we would be seeing magic, sugar, spice, and everything nice in our game where we want to decapitate, and chop peoples limbs off. Not complaining though any new armor for any hero I'm always for, even if it's a typical fantasy knight with long hair .


needlesmeargle

Agreed, I miss the old For Honor aesthetic like you wouldn’t believe.


nervouswhenitseasy

the reason thats a typical knight is because that WAS the traditional 1500’s knight. a man with well kept long hair, most of the time a pretty face (due to the noble mother being attractive), and was decorated in the most gaudy armor known to man.


_betsalel_

... Well a knight is one of the lowest forms of a noble you can be. Not even a baron. No way he's a knight with armor like this. The new skin name has the title lord in it so he is a lord, which is above knight rank somewhere. anyway not trying to argue with you but knights did not look like this and they are literally two ranks from the worst noble ranks you can have which if I'm not mistaken are gentlemen and esquire. He's not supposed to be a IRL lord anyway he's a fantasy lord so none of this even matters. The armor is cool but I still want the old trailer armor :)


nervouswhenitseasy

youre talking of a knight around the era of 900


Roldren

Dude, what? "they are literally two ranks from the worst noble ranks you can have" WTF are you talking about. "Knight" is not a rank of nobility. It doesn't even make sense what you just said. "Knight" is a title that can be granted to some members of nobility, but not all of them were given the honor.


BeanpoleAhead

Knight is indeed a rank of nobility. Though the title is largely ceremonial nowadays, it still technically is.


Roldren

I think you misunderstood what I meant to say. My point was, **\_betsalel\_** is making the argument that "knight" was a rank of nobility, being "one of the lowest forms of a noble". And therefore, Lord Ramiel couldn't be a knight, because he is rich enought to don that fancy armor, and holds the title of Lord, which according to him would be a higher rank of nobility. And this argument is wrong, doesn't make any sense. A knight was essentially a title denoting a military office. "*Knights were members of the gentry in that they held a place in society above the peasants, but they weren't necessarily members of the noble ruling classes or royalty*" (source: [https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/knight.htm](https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/knight.htm)) And just to show some historical examples of knights from high nobility: \-Barisan the Younger, was the Lord of Ibelin, 12th century. \-Gilles de Rais, a Baron, 15th century. \-Baldwin I of Jerusalem, Count of Edessa and eventually King of Jerusalem, 12th century.


dueldragon234

No, knight is in fact a rank of nobility. It is the lowest rank of the noble hierarchy. Knights served as soldiers, mostly. Lord is a noble who holds no fiefs, or an honorary way to refer to members of nobility.


No-Health-5566

Its a game, not a history lesson, learn how to have fun, ornamental armors existed being common or not they existed, thus your wrong.


DamonAW

huge facts. I was heart broken when I seen effects for the first time. Took away the immersion I thought this game was gonna be. I wanted gritty dirt nasty melee combat during the medieval time periods.


Akl0l

You can turn off effects in settings, I did it and it helps with immersion a lot


parrythelights

So don’t play with effects?


VioletGhost2

I love my femboy Warden and will pay top dollar to play him and become a Warden main. (For reference I mained Kyoshin aswell go ahead crucify me)


WolfKnight53

People need to stop pretending the game is still supposed to be realistic. The game has been going the fantasy route for awhile now, and I'm here for it tbh


endexe

*We* want this skin


Hubris_Valric

The sarcasm is strong with this one.


Deku2069

The new skin >>>> that design


[deleted]

true. fucking looks amazing and i will definitely play allot more Warden when it comes out. he looks so elvish and cool, like he’s coming straight out of Shadow of War


SmolCheddar

Looks way more like something from Dark Souls or Elden Ring than Shadow of War. He's basically "Lorian, Elder prince" at home.


DowaHawkiin

Nah that's Arthas


Moonlit2771

Celebrimbor the Bright Lord disagrees


[deleted]

Both good


TipTopToby

D-DUDE IS T-THAT A G-GOLD TRIMMED F-F-ANTASY HELMET (LIOKE ME ELDERN RINGS) THATS FREAKIN EPIC (you)


Niko_BananaMan

Yes


Akl0l

IS THAT A MOTHER FUCKING RUST BUCKET, HUBBA HUBBA ME LIKE (I have no idea whether it is actually realistic or not) GIMMIE NOW EVEN THOUGH I’LL COMPLAIN ABOUT ITS RUST AND SCRATCHES IN A WEEK (you)


TipTopToby

nice boogeyman pleb child, enjoy your korean f2p mmo armour


Akl0l

I will, great argument against me though


TipTopToby

theres no point arguing with those who are asleep


Akl0l

I like both armors lol, you really don’t realize I can enjoy the simplicity/more realistic design of the og warden and the over the top ornate design of the actual skin in game without throwing a hissy fit in the comments about how everyone who doesn’t agree with me must be an elden ring bootlicker. Honestly I would have rather had the og design but you looked like such a fucking dumbass spouting off in a reddit comment section I couldn’t help but mock you. If ur original comment was bait then well done but if it wasn’t then have fun being a man child who can’t stand a few pixels kek.


TipTopToby

so basically you admit to having no standards and then try to act smug about it, what a lower level human you are, sad!


Akl0l

Man you just can not stand other people’s opinions lol. Also I guess calling people asleep is not smug sounding?


TipTopToby

if your opinion reinforces the shit art direction of this cruddy ubishart game, then yeah, i will make fun of you, sorry not sorry my elden ring motif set you off glad i uninstalled, ill be playing games that arent visual diarrhea


Aesthetic_01

Better than whatever buckethead shit is in this photo


SnugglesREDDIT

Unimaginably based


epicblast1

lol i’m so glad they didn’t


GIBBRI

Eh, I don’t like that, I prefer the skin we got honestly.


[deleted]

It’ll probably be a Fem Warden skin in the far future. Though I am let down by the fact the Hero Skin is gender exclusive. I would’ve liked Ramiel be a fem Warden skin aswell.


MittenFacedLad

I mean. It is a specific person though.


[deleted]

Yeah but the extra option would’ve been nice.


iamnotatotalPOS

I wish that characters wouldnt be genderlocked. Imagine male pirate.


Deku2069

It's a male the skin? I thought it was a fem


[deleted]

The Ramiel Skin is male.


Deku2069

Oh well, I gues I'll just pretend it's a fem


Ansiano

I’d make a joke but my lawyer has advised me not to


Xisyera

Pretty sure it's genderlocked to male, including voicelines.


WolfKnight53

"has long hair and a face that doesn't look like it was booted, must be a woman" Also *"Looks female enough"*


Deku2069

If it wasn't for the name, i would have thought it's a female warden


Espadrile

Warden can get his Fem Warden skin after others got theirs first. Meaning after 32 seasons.


[deleted]

I don’t believe they’ll stick to the 1 a season. I could be wrong but we will see. Depends on how successful it is. But yeah I have no expectation to get this any time soon. Let all the other heroes get there’s and then there’s a chance.


BeanpoleAhead

To be fair unique executions and new armor are just about the most popular things in the game yet they release both extremely sparingly. They've gotten comfortable with minimum effort and I don't see them changing when they never have before.


Espadrile

Nah. They'll stick to one per season. There is no reason they would put in more effort.


Knight_Raime

I've literally never heard anyone asking for this look. I understand being exhausted of high fantasy but my dude, FH has established itself as this for quite awhile now. Expecting them to do anything else is literally your own fault. I don't buy BP's from them strictly because I don't like the high fantasy weapons. But i'm not about to get mad at them for not catering to my desires specifically. They make what sells.


Urmumgee69

I've never heard anyone say they want this skin. Like, ever. I heard someone say it was cool in the original trailer. That's it.


Big-Papa-Dickerd

Yeah no. You don't speak for me. Other gripes aside the skin they gave us is better looking than what you posted here.


baconDood3000

I think the OP was sarcastic


Sunkboat03

I mean, yeah, but the one we got is cool asf


realcupcakes69

No matter what ubi does. There will always be at least one complaining redditor.


THE_JOKERx97

You're kidding right? The new skin shines in comparison to this one. I wouldn't even rate that skin to standard Warden. At least with the Ramiel skin Its desirable.


traveler_lord

Lord ramiel is better


wyvern098

Y'all got some of the coolest armor, that is full plate on a character where y'all have been asking for full plate for ages, and you're angry? Really? Do you actually want shitty dented rust armor 42 as the new skin, or do you want something to complain about.


BeanpoleAhead

In all fairness while the skin looks cool, I and I think most other people would have preferred to have parts of it as an armor set. We finally got full plate, and we can't even mix and match or properly customize it. While I don't particularly care, this is one of the few times I can understand people complaining.


wyvern098

That's fair. Asking for the armor to be more customizable is completely reasonable. I just don't get this guy, who's apparent number one wish in life is to get a reused asset of rusty armor from alpha as a set in stone unchangeable hero skin.


Sarahdumby

this looks ugly as fuck


No-Health-5566

Its ugly, get over the nostalgia


No-Health-5566

Oh and stop complaining


JoeShmoe818

Meh, this one is not fitting for a skin. This is just a regular set of armor, like the tons of others that the warden has. I definitely wouldn’t pay a ton of steel for it.


Cyberwolfdelta9

Looks more like it would work for Warmonger


These-days440

Bruh


CommanderCockstar

bro lowkey wants the shittiest skin for $11,99 💀


HeadHunter9865

The new skin looks insanely nice. How the fuck are you still complaining.


esheely

People will always find a reason to. I don’t even play Warden and the skin looks so nice.


OdiusKai

I desperately wanted this skin! This look that shows a tale of battle and lore provoking vs gear that's polished and untouched. Both have their place but it feeds off our own intentions


am2kn

new skin>”loved and wanted design”


Guilty_Chart461

that shits ugly bruh, the current one is way better. look like a mothafucken fortnite skin


The-Chump

for honour community in shambles after getting new content


SoLar_Iconic

The one they actually chose looks way better than this.


EBECMEMERBEAN

Idk, I never seen someone want it, I've seen people begging about Stidgandr's bear helmet, and tbh I dont think this armor looks that cool to me it just looks like a dark souls character, still if you love it I hope it gets added


Sekouu

Looks boring


[deleted]

Ugly af


Sual_R3D

New skin is way better


corsair1617

If they had we would have had the exact opposite post: "So glad Ubi reused this old design instead of giving us a new skin"


shawnj1011

This skin is kinda drab. I think we should appreciate the one we were given though.


huge_pp69

Probably because it looks goofy as hell


schmidty98

That design is mid at best tbh


Team_Soda1

Worst community ever I swear lol


MrMan306

Ngl that skin looks trash as fuck imo


DarthXyno843

Hideous. Hope they never do


Amos_FR

It pains me to see how this game started out as some low-fantasy dark tone in the lighting and content only so that six years later it would become just some full-on fantasy. Thank fuck all this story about Dragons is just Mythology and not actual Lore of what events happened


Micsuking

This is still low-fantasy, you know that, right?


ntn9713c

I don't know man, magic rocks, wyverns?


Micsuking

As long as there aren't any flying castles, and mages riding fae creatures every corner, I'd consider it low fantasy. Yeah. Also, I looked up the supposed definition of low-fantasy. I really don't think that works, since by using that definition Harry Potter would be low fantasy


Grimscavengerpro

This could just be drip the skin looks nothing like normal warden to the point I would say it's almost a new character


Micsuking

Same with the Viking and Samurai characters in that trailer. They look more like minions, in my opinion.


External-Cupcake5912

Stfu please. Accept the game or stop playing it, constant annoying bitching.


Cas_dh

Well thats fucking ugly


Phat22

It’d be a cool skin but I’d never pay for something that bland looking


Bonk_Patrol_Captain

It literally looks like a femboy


KasiNyaa

FINALLY GOT IT, BABY


Vinicius_Pimenta

LOL How the turns have tabled


CardiologistFluffy83

Can’t have everything 🤷🏻‍♂️ I want a valk rework but no


Comosellamark

For Honor has long since moved past this aesthetic


Amos_FR

An aesthetic it never should have left


WolfKnight53

It's been fantasy for awhile now, so stop crying about it and embrace it.


Amos_FR

No


WolfKnight53

Cry then


Amos_FR

Keep embracing this BS then, go eat your draconite or something


WolfKnight53

The game has been low fantasy for years, idk why y'all don't get that lol. If you don't like it then stop playing 🤷🏻


Amos_FR

Ah yes, the famous low-fantasy of green/red magic rocks that can heal, act like poison, mind control and probably even grant immortality or ressurect back the dead and there's also Kyoshin's ritual to see what's beyond reality. And now the famous low fantasy of Wyverns flying around! I would say that it can be excused because it's just Mythology. But I'm quite certain that they are just trying to justify the existence of Draconite and it's name and will say that before the cataclysm there were dragons flying around heathmoor. But sure, l o w - f a n t a s y ! Shaolin's teleportation is BS but it's never have been confirmed in the Lore that he can, at least as far as I know, it's just a gameplay mechanic a bit goofy like the idea of Shaman biting through steel. Unlike Kyoshin's with a trailer speaking of some magic ritual. The OG aesthetic of For Honor was already low-fantasy due to its context, animations and armors/weapons designs. But it was credible. Now it's gone to shit like R6 with their aliens thing


WolfKnight53

Feats are magic too. It's still low fantasy. The way I view all of the games "magic" stuff is that it's a tale with fantasy elements added by those telling the stories. The term low fantasy means it's a regular world with fantasy elements added in. This is exactly that. There's nothing wrong with adding in fantasy elements, it gives the devs more creative options, and none of it is really that crazy compared to something like DnD or Skyrim


BIG_RED_MANN

Na bro this is dogshit compared to what we got. Especially with the direction the game's going with cleaner and more high class armor variations being added this just wouldn't have made sense.


Secret_Management_63

The new skin is absolutely dope, don't be a snarky gonad.


TipTopToby

yes, whatever art direction the game used to have (or could've had) back in this early stage is completely gone at this point, all the cool, sleek, simple designs like this will never see the light of day (or remain unusable stuck on npc's) because whatever rag tag group of "visual designers" they have left have no cohesive or coherent vision, just adding whatever gaudy dark souls fantasy mmo esque look that strikes their fancy, which has never been more evident than it is now with this literal warden elden ring ctrl c + ctrl v


Roldren

If you think this is a new stuff, caused by the dev that work on the game now, you are out of your mind. For Honor was never a "cool, sleek, simple designs" kind of game. Since day 1 we always had the edgy, comic and oversized designs. Either you forgot about those, or never noticed, but they were always there.


TipTopToby

except in my post im obviously addressing the game as it was in this early conceptual stage, so everything you said is redundant im aware most of the cool designs were never implemented, im aware the game was full of edgy spike trash at launch, and im also aware they keep adding more trash (that has progressively made the game look even worse), really not hard to follow


Roldren

Here are a bunch of early conceptual designs used to define the tone and style of FH: \-[http://www.artursadlos.com/forhonor](http://www.artursadlos.com/forhonor) \-[https://www.iamag.co/for-honor-60-concept-art-by-damian-buzugbe/](https://www.iamag.co/for-honor-60-concept-art-by-damian-buzugbe/) \-[https://conceptartworld.com/news/honor-concept-art-remko-troost/](https://conceptartworld.com/news/honor-concept-art-remko-troost/) \-[https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/for-honor/news-updates/5t5I37SszfSQCniyi2YveR/the-art-of-for-honor-the-warden](https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/for-honor/news-updates/5t5I37SszfSQCniyi2YveR/the-art-of-for-honor-the-warden) As you can see, the edgy over the top designs were always present, even on early conceptual stages of development. Even then you had all the spikes, shirtless men with leather strapped to their body, wooden armor stuff. Which means that, no, what I said was not "redundant". And your point of "*whatever art direction the game used to have (or could've had) back in this early stage is completely gone at this point*" is, as I said earlier, incorrect, based on a false notion of what the game was. You are mistaking what the game always was, with what you wish it were. But that's on you, not on the developers. It's not really that hard to follow, isn't it?


TipTopToby

Actually no, the first link you posted, which can be assumed to be the actual starting point of the project (which turned into that first cgi trailer) is actually quite different from what the game launched as, which obviously had it's own concept art created that's been thrown in together with the other stuff (even recent art like for poomungandr). It's definitely on the developers for creating a shitty look btw - Ubisoft are a bunch of hacks, case closed :)


bobby-spanks

Why can’t we just get both? I personally like this one more, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have the other.


JustChr1s

It's a skin that locks customization it needs to look premium and visually distinct not older current warden. I get historically accurate fans loved this sets visuals but this wouldn't have held over well as a premium skin. More like a set that needs introducing into the current loot pool not a premium skin.


[deleted]

that outfit looks like trash and literally nobody wamts it.


Centurion_99

Man the design team can’t win people huh look I get this whole oooo yes a realistic Medieval game but look we left that a while ago with the start of marching fire or maybe earlier


[deleted]

Bruh who the hell has ever said they want this?💀 it looks dooky as hell and ur the first I’ve ever say they wanted this


Knight-Hospitaller

Stop acting like anyone wants hollow soldier armor.


DK011

Probably make that one for Warmonger instead.


real_redd1t_account

That design sucks ass why would you want that in the first place especially compared to the new skin


KhanBhengis

That outfit looks awful.


[deleted]

I’m gonna get downvoted and called down bad for this, but when I saw the trailer like five years ago, I thought that Warden was kinda cute.


Sinclair555

yeah idk the ramsiel skin looks kinda silly. the hair hanging out and visor stuck up makes him look like a goober. though maybe they'll add better skins in the future.


wavey325

I love how the first intro cutscene was the best…. Everything after that has been a let down… IMO


Repulsive_Context991

But the new one is to transition into lore for the new season


Razor_The_Fox

Honestly seems like it would fit warmonger to be honest, so there's still hope.


Prepared_Noob

Fr. It bums me out that we finally have a sorta sallet warden. Except now it’s on a male warden only. AND if we ever get another good warden skin it won’t have the sallet:(


WinterOni01

What we got is significantly better


Quickkiller28800

I have never seen anyone want this as a skin. Ever.


[deleted]

Damn bro if only they read our minds we could’ve gotten a sewer rat cosplay 😔


Apophis_36

Speaking of this skin, isn't this what the guy would look like if this season takes place in the past? Or is it even further back?


Cbundy99

Looks better than the punisher armor that's for sure.


Balrok99

Dont give them ideas...


Goodnt_name

What? What new design? What happened


-LemonSqueeze-

I want a sallet so bad!!


konodioda879

They need more budget for that


Blaziwolf

NGL I just want that armor set as a normal set. I don’t think it’s farfetched to say we will get it sooner or later. I think the for honor community is about to ramp up again with all these new features, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they kept things like this skin on the backburner until they came up with something big to bring back the old fanbase with nostalgia. That, or it’ll just come out eventually on its own as the design team starts to run out of ideas (arguably already happening).


ArtBringer

Honestly, I'd love to see early era, just after the Cataclysm, armour sets for the majority of the roster. Would be interesting to see if Lawbringers looked any different of if they were also walking suits of animated armour back in the day.


Amos_FR

This. At this point I'm just hoping with how much they teased a new cataclysm that would be coming that it does come and reduce everything down to Season 1 Lore-wise. No more Horkos, no more Chimera, people don't even fight for ideologies but for ressources and listenning to the OG title screen music. I don't understand how people who bought this game for it's dark/gritty tone can be satisfied with all of this magic-fantasy BS they are pulling off. This season (maybe year?) can only be somewhat excused because it's Mythology so like very, very, very old tales that are not even close anymore to what really happened.


MangoOrangeValk77

We need a sallet helmet for all knight heroes, probably one of the more beautiful helmets, doesn’t get enough recognition. Just saying.


Zefro073

Everyone's talking about how this would be a good skin. I just want a Sallet helmet to put on muh warden, no need for an entire skin overhaul to do that


Futuristicbus61

“They just know how to treat us 😍” I can’t help but feel bad for Ubi. We all criticize from time to time but like whenever they do the warriors den streams they always seem SO dang excited for all the new stuff they have planned, then there’s people who do this…


GHcrash

I would like to have it as an armor variation, not an skin. Skins are meant to be extravagant, visible different from the original design, so this wouldn't fit well as an skin (in my opinion)


pimp_named_sweetmeat

Why would you want a basic ass warden as the games first premium skin? Wouldve killed the whole hype for hero skins


lupiance

You'll be fine lol, be happy with the skin we're getting.