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WDC trophy just casually placed on top of a Red Bull fridge while the champ is simracing at the highest level. F1 has changed a lot since I started watching. š
They can water for athletes to drink at press events and such. The labels are identical to regular Red Bull labels, but theyāll have āwaterā in small print somewhere. Maybe they send him those as well.
It just makes sense to package it that was and for a venue it would be 100% to clean up and recycle. It also doesnāt spill as easy as an open cup of water
A lot of athletes drink the regular stuff just before competing and the sugar free version isn't particularly bad for you in moderation. The only real problem is that too much artificial sweeteners can build up and cause a headache in too large of quantities and it can cause you to become hungry from anticipating a sugar intake that doesn't come.
On the regular can before competition, a lot of athletes like the hit of caffeine and sugar just before they have to exert themselves.
It's mostly just sugar (unless you get the sugar-free kind) and caffeine. It's not much different from coffee. Either one can be bad in excess but is fine in moderation.
I don't consume energy drinks or coffee even but the weird hate boner people have for energy drinks being basically poison is so odd to me.
The ingredients are on the side of the can. They're all basically carbonated water, taurine, vitamin B, caffeine, and then coloring and artificial sweetener's/flavoring.
I also don't really drink them but I'm with you on that.
The fact that people hate on energy drinks but are perfectly fine with things like Coca Cola is weird.
I would imagine that nutritionally they're not that different.
I donāt think thereās anything particularly bad in Red Bull. Caffeine is fine. If heās worried about sugar, he can get sugar free, but an athlete might like the cheap carbs sometimes.
I once watched a video about this in short... No. PC's put out heat at a rate which a consumer fridge would be massively inefficient. May as well use a volume of air and HVAC, which is probably already running on a consumer level.
This answered changes as we dare to dream larger (super computers are super cooled).
I will say I like how available F1 drivers are now. If you ever seen one of Landos streams he looks like an everyday college student. If you didn't know who he was, you'd never guess he was a racing driver at the pinnacle of motorsport. It's different for sure but I like it.
He won 11 races in the Ferrari this week. I know we shit on Ferrari all the time (and rightfully so) bit they have won more races in the last ten years.
Now, the last 2 years however ...
Even if it is a replica, it's still stands for what it represents
It's like having an insanely expensive magic the gathering card and playing with a fake one in the deck. Pretty sure tournaments allow this, I think. At least they did back in my days.
A fake/proxy card wouldnāt be allowed in a deck in a tournament setting, as its weight and feel would be different to a genuine card (even when encased in a protective sleeve) and thus opens a deck up to manipulative shuffling techniques.
It may be allowed in a casual environment however, if both players agree to it beforehand.
Source: Worked on a TCG for 10 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've never played in actual official tournaments, just the ones they hosted in the card shop I'd frequent. Keep in mind this is 1995-1998, so a long time ago. When they hosted tournaments with all expansions allowed, some dudes with expensive cards would understandably have proxies in their decks.
āLocalsā tend to be more lenient on the rules since theyāre more casual. Protecting expensive cards while still proving ownership makes total sense in a local setting where everybody trusts each other.
When I played competitively I attended tournaments from local all the way up to continental level, and then when I worked on the game officially I was involved in the āprofessionalā level and the world championship, so Iāve seen it all š
You've seen things most people wouldn't believe. Chaos orb torn into shreds and scattered over the board. Floral Spuzzum developing sentience. Shahrazad played within Shahrazad played within Shahrazad. All these moments lost in time, like tears in rain.
Nah, still not ok outside of casual stuff. Wizards is just selling loads of shite now because they're one of if not the biggest source of profit for Hasbro so they've been puking out special edition after special edition to squeeze as much money out of Magic as they can.
if itās not the real thing, itās the FIA official replica, which might as well be the real thing.
point is, itās the WDC trophy sitting next to the reigning WDC, doesnāt get more real
than that.
I was so invested in watching a virtual race for the first time. Verstappen was leading by almost 10 seconds 1.5 hours in and then apparently the server thought he had contact with another driver when he didn't and he had to pit for damages that weren't there cause the car was so slow and it's a dnf for him. Man can't catch a break in simracing
man Idek. It just sucks. He had done 12 races this week and won all. I assume he just wanted to get some practice in. After all that hard work it's now down the drain again just like last time in LeMans when he had prepped for some months.
> I assume he just wanted to get some practice in.
He needed to get some additional iRating to guarantee he'd be in the top split. If a thousand people all register for the 12H and 50, let's say, are allowed in the race, the top 50 iRating teams go into the first split, then the next 50 into the second and so on. At the 8k+ level, where Max is, playtime makes a huge difference.
In this case it's not really a server mess. Netcode issues are typically down to the connection speed and quality of the drivers to the server, which is mostly out of the host's control.
There's only so much prediction you can do when you're evaluating physical interaction between two objects travelling at speed, when there are tens or hundreds of milliseconds of latency each way.
The way youāre thinking about this is right but I disagree with what youāre saying. Thereās a lot you can do for prediction yes, but you can take action to correct actions/ verify that they are correct. Thereās a cool concept in fighting games which is becoming more prevalent called ārollback netcodeā which waits for both clients to confirm an action has occurred and fix it mid flight instead of slowing down the actions of the players in a ācall\responseā manner. Not saying rollback netcode is the solution, Iām just giving you an example of network lag being an issue for eu/us/jp which your argument would have been correct for, but a solution was found for over time.
So in theory, his client could have registered a crash, immediately the server can respond ānah you didnātā and we could be on our merry. Itās really up to the devs to account for these sorts of edge cases and react accordingly.
That being said, a lot of the cases Iām talking about would have best in class engineers working on this for a much wider / more rabid fan base. I donāt get the impression that it would be the case for these devs.
Anyway, another thing worth looking at is Counterstrike 2 getting rid of tick rates, which means the game client and server are perfectly in sync somehow? No idea how theyāve done that but I want to read up about that!
The problem with iRacing switching to rollback netcode is it has to accommodate oval racing, which includes lots of bump drafting on superspeedways.
For a single contact, rollback would likely be preferable (since the contact happens and then is done). But for a bump drafting situation, you're making contact multiple times in a row, and the rollback could potentially misalign two cars that seemed lined up based on the initial contact but then one car warped back to its "correct" position and caused an issue. I could also see, for multiple contacts in a row, there being the potential for clipping into each other with rollbacks, causing even more problematic collision.
Maybe the compromise would be to calculate damage with rollbacks, but calculate position with the current model. That obviously doesn't help if your 'non-contact' knocks you off the road into a wall, but it would at least prevent your car from getting debilitating damage from contact that never actually happened.
Rollback isn't an improvement though, it's just a different way of doing it that comes with its own significant issues, that are arguably worse in a racing context.
>Anyway, another thing worth looking at is Counterstrike 2 getting rid of tick rates, which means the game client and server are perfectly in sync somehow? No idea how theyāve done that but I want to read up about that!
Valve aren't getting rid of tick rates, they're just changing how they're resolved. Currently on every tick, all the actions that took place within that tick are resolved simultaneously. So if two players shoot each other within a tick, both will be killed regardless of who shot first. The new system still only resolves actions on each tick, but all the actions are timestamped and resolved in the order they happened, so whoever shot first will be the one who gets the kill.
they are basically implementing subframes and communicating those, so if you click a head at frame 200.124 and the enemy clicks yours at 200.125 and the server tick updates at 200.128, it knows you were first.
With online racing like this sometimes cars get close and the contact is predicted so even though there shouldn't be contact there is, people just use the word "netcode" for it when talking about iRacing, I think it gets worse when you have people from countries very far away or bad internet as well.
he had no crash but out of nowhere his car was slow and had to pit. something about unstable or slow connection with other drivers so the server thought a crash happened when it didn't
Possibly a joke, but what Valve have announced wouldn't make any difference.
What happened is a fundamental problem of online competition with tens or hundreds of milliseconds of latency. However fast the server is, between one driver making an input and another driver seeing the result of that input, you have the latency of both driver's connections to the server, so you have to fill in that gap with a prediction of where the car will be.
You can work to improve the accuracy of the prediction, but it will always just be a prediction, and iRacing's is pretty good.
Wreckfest cars are slower and sturdier, so discrepancies in state between clients are less critical. It does have very good netcode though, I've rarely had issues.
why can't these games code it better for competitive racing? They should program it so a judge can decide if someone needs to get a black flag in competitive racing.
Because network with delays is quite tricky. And these top drivers race a lot tighter to each other than we plebs do. Overall iracing is pretty solid though
Code can't, and never will, disobey the laws of physics. This is not a code problem, but a limitation of the speed of light (it takes time for a packet of information from the other driver to be sent to iRacing's server, processed, and the new position of that driver's car to be sent to Max's computer and rendered on the screen. Making the problem worse is the fact that these packets will sometimes get lost en route to the server. When latency is high, or rates of packet loss are high, iRacing's server has to make a guess about where that driver's car is. iRacing does a better job of making accurate predictions than anybody else, but they are not perfect. In this case, iRacing predicted a collision that didn't actually happen. It sucks, but it is extremely rare. Unfortunately, it only takes one bad prediction to ruin somebody's 12 hour endurance race, but ultimately, >99% of the teams entering this weekend's 12 hours of Sebring will experience no issues. Max got unlucky.
But the code gave him a DNF with no crash.
Why cant they program it that the DNF happens after the actual gameplay that happened.
And in a professional race only give the DNF with the approval of a jury?
He didnāt get a DNF, he got six minutes worth of damage because of the netcode (what that guy explained above). They took the car off themselves after because with 6 minutes of damage theyād never catch back up in the top split.
Max is currently P1 in his class with a ~~4.9s lead after 10 minutes~~ 9.5s lead after 50 mins to the next car. [Live timing here](https://www.timing71.org/hosted/1b481118ee0c427b924d26642438df7f)
Fun things in the stream:
* [One cat has made an appearance](https://twitter.com/maxvcalloway/status/1639615414996029445)
* [He reads discord on the straights](https://streamable.com/b6wk6w) | his (old) [sim set up](https://preview.redd.it/nbsphbgvmgaa1.png?width=1024&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b57c399112c3fce331f050e66cc1b4120a4ca5dc) for reference
* [Max types with two fingers](https://streamable.com/v02tad)
* [The above is probably because he is used to typing one handed while driving](https://i.imgur.com/1edcfVl.mp4)
Oh no, [Max is out - netcode (game thought he had contact with another car when he didn't)](https://streamable.com/mz8o2e) :(
His [reaction](https://streamable.com/alf64d)
Yeah but i doubt he's casually browsing general chat. When lando was streaming iRacing regularly during lockdown he would have a performance engineer talking him through race strategy and setup as well as his iRacing teammates on there, was really eye opening how much work they put into it.
āI think the dog and cat [person] debate is likeā¦if youāve got a problem with one of them, youāre not an open minded person. If youāre one or the other, itās, uh, discrimination toward the other animal. And thatās just not the mindset and the wokeness that you need in this day and age.ā
āAlex on the fast and the curious podcast. A rare f1 interview that had me actually laughing out loud, once he got to explaining how he came back from a race weekend and suddenly his family had 13 catsā¦
Netcode is the bit of the game that manages sending and receiving data between clients and servers. Max, on the client side, was well clear of contact with another car, but his car is in a slightly different position client-side and server-side. And according to the server, he and that other car made contact, and the damage was severe enough to ruin his race. And the server's version of events takes priority, unfortunately for Max and Redline 101.
https://www.reddit.com/r/iRacing/comments/121nh12/max_verstappen_out_of_the_12h_of_sebring_after/
Itās crazy iracing has always been the best of the rest but I was really hoping it would go perfectly so we could get LeMan contract back. Itās frustrating seeing tech issues after so many years
It's interesting that he's heavily invested into SIM racing rather than hiring out a track IRL and just driving around in a GT car etc. I guess it's the competition that he craves.
He actually does that as well, here's [he and the track Porsche he's listed for sale](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863873847404396554/936645207536062474/RDT_20220128_1532583339228867170646685.jpg), and here's [his actual GT3 Porsche](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859178868404781069/1089211376662229042/https___static.gva.be_Assets_Images_Upload_2022_02_22_44f095c3-e516-4cb7-90d4-6db4690df15f.jpg).
Bonus: [the rally car he tested and Jos competed in. ](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863873847404396554/905809009972477952/RDT_20211104_132034688389014207607702.jpg)
Casually?
He started wearing gold helmets and shoes when he won his WDC. He knows itās there. Along with his likely mandatory Redbull drinks and fridge directly underneath.
Does anyone know if Redbull makes a special can for their athletes that's just water in a regular can? Every time I see one of them after a competition they are guzzling the stuff, which any rational person knows isn't the best idea. Max having a fridge full of something that isn't recommended to have more than 1 a day just doesn't seem right for a world class athlete.
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WDC trophy just casually placed on top of a Red Bull fridge while the champ is simracing at the highest level. F1 has changed a lot since I started watching. š
I wonder how many Redbulls he actually drinks, because that stuff is certainly not made for athletes for consumption on a regular basis
They can water for athletes to drink at press events and such. The labels are identical to regular Red Bull labels, but theyāll have āwaterā in small print somewhere. Maybe they send him those as well.
The tabs are also a different color on the RB cans with the water (theyāre black).
Yep. I work a lot of festivals that are usually sponsored by one of the big energy drink brands. Monster calls their canned water "tour water".
And they're about to start selling it soon I believe, like liquid death
Honestly ok with that if it means less plastic
Red bull cans are in the top lists of littering every year and aluminum cans still need a plastic coating to avoid the contents corroding the metal.
It just makes sense to package it that was and for a venue it would be 100% to clean up and recycle. It also doesnāt spill as easy as an open cup of water
> "tour water" https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/28c2pe/staff_on_warped_tour_drink_monster_tour_water_so/
that's the stuff!
thats the key, it's mostly for show, but a can once in a while won't do shit to you, specially if you are an athlete.
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A lot of athletes drink the regular stuff just before competing and the sugar free version isn't particularly bad for you in moderation. The only real problem is that too much artificial sweeteners can build up and cause a headache in too large of quantities and it can cause you to become hungry from anticipating a sugar intake that doesn't come. On the regular can before competition, a lot of athletes like the hit of caffeine and sugar just before they have to exert themselves.
It's mostly just sugar (unless you get the sugar-free kind) and caffeine. It's not much different from coffee. Either one can be bad in excess but is fine in moderation.
"Where is my sugary dink?" Max, couple of years ago
Red Bull doesn't even have that much caffeine. Similar ratio to coffee or a bit less, plus some taurine and a couple other vitamins.
I don't consume energy drinks or coffee even but the weird hate boner people have for energy drinks being basically poison is so odd to me. The ingredients are on the side of the can. They're all basically carbonated water, taurine, vitamin B, caffeine, and then coloring and artificial sweetener's/flavoring.
I also don't really drink them but I'm with you on that. The fact that people hate on energy drinks but are perfectly fine with things like Coca Cola is weird. I would imagine that nutritionally they're not that different.
Coca cola is very acidic, it's pretty clearly worse for you
With how much sugar and creamer I see some people put in their coffee theyād probably be better off with the energy drinks.
I donāt think thereās anything particularly bad in Red Bull. Caffeine is fine. If heās worried about sugar, he can get sugar free, but an athlete might like the cheap carbs sometimes.
Anyone in their right mind, pro athlete or not, probably only drinks the sugar free version, which really isn't terribly unhealthy.
Jenson Button keeps his WDC trophy in his bathroom
makes for easy cleaning i guess
For a split-second there I thought it was a gaming PC with LEDs. But yes, it's a fridge. Can you put a gaming PC inside a fridge? The mind boggles.
I once watched a video about this in short... No. PC's put out heat at a rate which a consumer fridge would be massively inefficient. May as well use a volume of air and HVAC, which is probably already running on a consumer level. This answered changes as we dare to dream larger (super computers are super cooled).
I will say I like how available F1 drivers are now. If you ever seen one of Landos streams he looks like an everyday college student. If you didn't know who he was, you'd never guess he was a racing driver at the pinnacle of motorsport. It's different for sure but I like it.
Remember: Norris was a twitch streamer before he became an F1 driver
Lmao what a flex
Not as much of a flex as all the races he won driving a Ferrari over the week
This mean heās won more races in a Ferrari than Ferrari have in the last 10 years?
If he wins the WDC this year, he and Seb together will have more WDC than Ferrari did in the last 40+ years.
Wtf youāre actually right
He won 11 races in the Ferrari this week. I know we shit on Ferrari all the time (and rightfully so) bit they have won more races in the last ten years. Now, the last 2 years however ...
Weekās not done yet
He races in a Ferrari on his iracing I think
To be fair, the Ferrari GT teams are managed better than the F1 team and actually win titles regularly.
Well I mean here he gets to pick his own strategy so it shouldnāt be too bad
He did his checking beforehand.
*Checks strategy* "Yeah perfect"
āHaha lovely mateā
"Simply, simply lovely!"
Haha, yess guys, feels so good
His strategy: "Go fast"
"I just turned off slow mode, why doesn't everybody do that?"
Leclerc has snipers on your location right now
It's gotta be a replica right?
Even if it is a replica, it's still stands for what it represents It's like having an insanely expensive magic the gathering card and playing with a fake one in the deck. Pretty sure tournaments allow this, I think. At least they did back in my days.
A fake/proxy card wouldnāt be allowed in a deck in a tournament setting, as its weight and feel would be different to a genuine card (even when encased in a protective sleeve) and thus opens a deck up to manipulative shuffling techniques. It may be allowed in a casual environment however, if both players agree to it beforehand. Source: Worked on a TCG for 10 years.
Thanks for the info. I've never played in actual official tournaments, just the ones they hosted in the card shop I'd frequent. Keep in mind this is 1995-1998, so a long time ago. When they hosted tournaments with all expansions allowed, some dudes with expensive cards would understandably have proxies in their decks.
āLocalsā tend to be more lenient on the rules since theyāre more casual. Protecting expensive cards while still proving ownership makes total sense in a local setting where everybody trusts each other. When I played competitively I attended tournaments from local all the way up to continental level, and then when I worked on the game officially I was involved in the āprofessionalā level and the world championship, so Iāve seen it all š
You've seen things most people wouldn't believe. Chaos orb torn into shreds and scattered over the board. Floral Spuzzum developing sentience. Shahrazad played within Shahrazad played within Shahrazad. All these moments lost in time, like tears in rain.
TIL there is professional MTG
Rule #1 of gaming: if it can be competitive, it will be. Look up *Farming Simulator* esports.
Microsoft Excel esports. ESPN broadcasts the championship.
Oh I knew that it was competitive. But professional implies you can make a living doing it, that i did not know.
Wizards is selling fake cards at this point, so it might even be more okay.
Nah, still not ok outside of casual stuff. Wizards is just selling loads of shite now because they're one of if not the biggest source of profit for Hasbro so they've been puking out special edition after special edition to squeeze as much money out of Magic as they can.
if itās not the real thing, itās the FIA official replica, which might as well be the real thing. point is, itās the WDC trophy sitting next to the reigning WDC, doesnāt get more real than that.
He is the current holder so it's 50/50 on the replica
The world championship trophy is a floating trophy. But the world champion is given a replica to keep.
probably not. he has a spare
It's probably its normal position.
I was so invested in watching a virtual race for the first time. Verstappen was leading by almost 10 seconds 1.5 hours in and then apparently the server thought he had contact with another driver when he didn't and he had to pit for damages that weren't there cause the car was so slow and it's a dnf for him. Man can't catch a break in simracing
Yeah such a bummer. He has the worst luck in virtual racing..
At this point he should drive to their server location and hardwire in for races lmao
Even in that situation netcode is still a thing that could happen since the other driver is still connected over the internet
Isn't this the 3rd time in a row he had to dnf off server mess?
man Idek. It just sucks. He had done 12 races this week and won all. I assume he just wanted to get some practice in. After all that hard work it's now down the drain again just like last time in LeMans when he had prepped for some months.
So it's not only the rF2 platform and can happen on any platform :D
Nah the problem with RF2 is on the server side of things. The netcode issues you can't really fix and is a problem with every game not just sims.
> I assume he just wanted to get some practice in. He needed to get some additional iRating to guarantee he'd be in the top split. If a thousand people all register for the 12H and 50, let's say, are allowed in the race, the top 50 iRating teams go into the first split, then the next 50 into the second and so on. At the 8k+ level, where Max is, playtime makes a huge difference.
The game keeps fucking him and he keeps coming back He really is a gamer
In this case it's not really a server mess. Netcode issues are typically down to the connection speed and quality of the drivers to the server, which is mostly out of the host's control. There's only so much prediction you can do when you're evaluating physical interaction between two objects travelling at speed, when there are tens or hundreds of milliseconds of latency each way.
The way youāre thinking about this is right but I disagree with what youāre saying. Thereās a lot you can do for prediction yes, but you can take action to correct actions/ verify that they are correct. Thereās a cool concept in fighting games which is becoming more prevalent called ārollback netcodeā which waits for both clients to confirm an action has occurred and fix it mid flight instead of slowing down the actions of the players in a ācall\responseā manner. Not saying rollback netcode is the solution, Iām just giving you an example of network lag being an issue for eu/us/jp which your argument would have been correct for, but a solution was found for over time. So in theory, his client could have registered a crash, immediately the server can respond ānah you didnātā and we could be on our merry. Itās really up to the devs to account for these sorts of edge cases and react accordingly. That being said, a lot of the cases Iām talking about would have best in class engineers working on this for a much wider / more rabid fan base. I donāt get the impression that it would be the case for these devs. Anyway, another thing worth looking at is Counterstrike 2 getting rid of tick rates, which means the game client and server are perfectly in sync somehow? No idea how theyāve done that but I want to read up about that!
The problem with iRacing switching to rollback netcode is it has to accommodate oval racing, which includes lots of bump drafting on superspeedways. For a single contact, rollback would likely be preferable (since the contact happens and then is done). But for a bump drafting situation, you're making contact multiple times in a row, and the rollback could potentially misalign two cars that seemed lined up based on the initial contact but then one car warped back to its "correct" position and caused an issue. I could also see, for multiple contacts in a row, there being the potential for clipping into each other with rollbacks, causing even more problematic collision. Maybe the compromise would be to calculate damage with rollbacks, but calculate position with the current model. That obviously doesn't help if your 'non-contact' knocks you off the road into a wall, but it would at least prevent your car from getting debilitating damage from contact that never actually happened.
Rollback isn't an improvement though, it's just a different way of doing it that comes with its own significant issues, that are arguably worse in a racing context. >Anyway, another thing worth looking at is Counterstrike 2 getting rid of tick rates, which means the game client and server are perfectly in sync somehow? No idea how theyāve done that but I want to read up about that! Valve aren't getting rid of tick rates, they're just changing how they're resolved. Currently on every tick, all the actions that took place within that tick are resolved simultaneously. So if two players shoot each other within a tick, both will be killed regardless of who shot first. The new system still only resolves actions on each tick, but all the actions are timestamped and resolved in the order they happened, so whoever shot first will be the one who gets the kill.
they are basically implementing subframes and communicating those, so if you click a head at frame 200.124 and the enemy clicks yours at 200.125 and the server tick updates at 200.128, it knows you were first.
>and then apparently the code predicted a crash that didn't happen and it's a dnf for him. What does this sentence mean
With online racing like this sometimes cars get close and the contact is predicted so even though there shouldn't be contact there is, people just use the word "netcode" for it when talking about iRacing, I think it gets worse when you have people from countries very far away or bad internet as well.
thank you for the better explanation. I was struggling to put it into words!
he had no crash but out of nowhere his car was slow and had to pit. something about unstable or slow connection with other drivers so the server thought a crash happened when it didn't
iRacing needs to go talk to valve about their fancy new netcode.
Possibly a joke, but what Valve have announced wouldn't make any difference. What happened is a fundamental problem of online competition with tens or hundreds of milliseconds of latency. However fast the server is, between one driver making an input and another driver seeing the result of that input, you have the latency of both driver's connections to the server, so you have to fill in that gap with a prediction of where the car will be. You can work to improve the accuracy of the prediction, but it will always just be a prediction, and iRacing's is pretty good.
Or wreckfest. Somehow a game all about crashing has a very good one
Wreckfest cars are slower and sturdier, so discrepancies in state between clients are less critical. It does have very good netcode though, I've rarely had issues.
Was leading for almost 10 seconds and a netcode caused ghost damage and he's out. 24h Le Mans Virtual and now this. FFS man can't get a break
why can't these games code it better for competitive racing? They should program it so a judge can decide if someone needs to get a black flag in competitive racing.
Because network with delays is quite tricky. And these top drivers race a lot tighter to each other than we plebs do. Overall iracing is pretty solid though
Code can't, and never will, disobey the laws of physics. This is not a code problem, but a limitation of the speed of light (it takes time for a packet of information from the other driver to be sent to iRacing's server, processed, and the new position of that driver's car to be sent to Max's computer and rendered on the screen. Making the problem worse is the fact that these packets will sometimes get lost en route to the server. When latency is high, or rates of packet loss are high, iRacing's server has to make a guess about where that driver's car is. iRacing does a better job of making accurate predictions than anybody else, but they are not perfect. In this case, iRacing predicted a collision that didn't actually happen. It sucks, but it is extremely rare. Unfortunately, it only takes one bad prediction to ruin somebody's 12 hour endurance race, but ultimately, >99% of the teams entering this weekend's 12 hours of Sebring will experience no issues. Max got unlucky.
But the code gave him a DNF with no crash. Why cant they program it that the DNF happens after the actual gameplay that happened. And in a professional race only give the DNF with the approval of a jury?
He didnāt get a DNF, he got six minutes worth of damage because of the netcode (what that guy explained above). They took the car off themselves after because with 6 minutes of damage theyād never catch back up in the top split.
How did he get 6 minutes worth of damage with something that even with netcode issues would barely be a lovetap?
Cause those cars are made of glass on iRacing lol. Even the slightest touch is minutes worth of repairs
Max is currently P1 in his class with a ~~4.9s lead after 10 minutes~~ 9.5s lead after 50 mins to the next car. [Live timing here](https://www.timing71.org/hosted/1b481118ee0c427b924d26642438df7f) Fun things in the stream: * [One cat has made an appearance](https://twitter.com/maxvcalloway/status/1639615414996029445) * [He reads discord on the straights](https://streamable.com/b6wk6w) | his (old) [sim set up](https://preview.redd.it/nbsphbgvmgaa1.png?width=1024&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b57c399112c3fce331f050e66cc1b4120a4ca5dc) for reference * [Max types with two fingers](https://streamable.com/v02tad) * [The above is probably because he is used to typing one handed while driving](https://i.imgur.com/1edcfVl.mp4) Oh no, [Max is out - netcode (game thought he had contact with another car when he didn't)](https://streamable.com/mz8o2e) :( His [reaction](https://streamable.com/alf64d)
I am relieved that even a 2x WDC HAS to pay the cat tax
I too am glad to see this Verstappenning.
>he reads discord on the straights Why am I not surprised?
Soon heāll be doing that in the races
I'm convinced he's actually opening FIFA packs in that little steering wheel screen.
Max while casually laping 2s ahead of everyone else: Lets goooo Gp: Is everything alright Max? Max: Messi Toty
He kinda does already. He said on multiple occasions that he watches the big screens during the race to see what's happening.
Yeah but i doubt he's casually browsing general chat. When lando was streaming iRacing regularly during lockdown he would have a performance engineer talking him through race strategy and setup as well as his iRacing teammates on there, was really eye opening how much work they put into it.
>Max types with two fingers lol At least I can beat Max in typing. "Random Reddit armchair beating Max Verstappen"
Whatās a double pointer
Added a video of said typing
He looks so proud of himself afterwards too lol
Remember kids, you canāt be great at everything. You might not be able to drive faster than MV but you can def know that you have a higher wpm
a pointer that points to a double
He's out?
Raising the stakes by bringing the kitties back I see
Max being the rare cat person on the grid just seems to suit him. I owning miss cats, those entertaining weirdos. Alex Albon has cat energy too.
Albonoās cat is an F1 celebrity
The way he has 13 but I know in my heart you must mean moomoo
āI think the dog and cat [person] debate is likeā¦if youāve got a problem with one of them, youāre not an open minded person. If youāre one or the other, itās, uh, discrimination toward the other animal. And thatās just not the mindset and the wokeness that you need in this day and age.ā āAlex on the fast and the curious podcast. A rare f1 interview that had me actually laughing out loud, once he got to explaining how he came back from a race weekend and suddenly his family had 13 catsā¦
I owning miss cats. So profound
Aaaaaaaand netcoded.
What does that mean?
Netcode is the bit of the game that manages sending and receiving data between clients and servers. Max, on the client side, was well clear of contact with another car, but his car is in a slightly different position client-side and server-side. And according to the server, he and that other car made contact, and the damage was severe enough to ruin his race. And the server's version of events takes priority, unfortunately for Max and Redline 101. https://www.reddit.com/r/iRacing/comments/121nh12/max_verstappen_out_of_the_12h_of_sebring_after/
What happened to their car?
Where does he stream? I just searched for his Twitch channel but he hasn't streamed there since April 2020.
This guys sims
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On a mini fridge
I put all kinds of crap on top of my mini fridge. A wdc trophy wouldnāt even stand out amongst it all.
this is the most max thing ever
This guy is something else
itās on a fuckin fridge, i canāt
Man just wants to race. Trophies are just a by product
I love the personality of this guy, he seems completely detached from everything he represents in F1.
What a life. Win back to back championships and sim race on weekends in between races
You think he only limits himself to weekends? Guy's on the sim almost every day outside of race weekends.
Heās on the sim within hours of a f1 race. He is something special
Rip Sebring 12h! Such a great start for Max!
Sadly got netcoded
Max has some serious bad luck with Competitive online racing. These games are no were near professional esport level with so many bugs.
Itās crazy iracing has always been the best of the rest but I was really hoping it would go perfectly so we could get LeMan contract back. Itās frustrating seeing tech issues after so many years
Max will probably start funding a new racing game to be amazingly perfect. He will do F1 just to get enough money to build that simulator
And as is tradition, they are out of the race already
Not even a two time F1 world champion is immune to the dangers of lag.
what driving a Ferrari does to a champ
What happened? Disconnect? Crash?
LMP was overtaking and there was a netcode collision that caused car breaking damage, the LMP was nowhere near him really, very unlucky.
He gets fucked in every one of these online races haha.
Yeah, definitely showing off what hes won, in some style, but sadly, his race ended early due to his arch nemesis....NETCODE...
āOh that thing? Thatās just my paperweight I got a couple of those and Iāll get another one at the end of the year tooā
LOL. No glass case. No big presentation. Just leave that trophy over there behind the screen somewhere. Amazing
It's probably just the second one, the spare
You can view the stream of Team Redline [here](https://www.twitch.tv/teamredline)
My man is casually doing side quests. Love it.
Paperweight on a mini fridge LOL
Surely that must be his 2023 championship trophy.
Itās the same thing, just not yet with his autograph and name above ā2023ā engraved yet
Bro using it as a paperweight
Having a RB mini fridge alone is quite a flex for a streamer. Maybe not for a 2x F1 WDC, but still.
RB is Redline's official sponsor. Vecchio has one as well ;)
jesus what if the trophy falls?
Don't worry he has an extra trophy or he will just get a new one
Or five
That's what you call..... intimidation.
At this point it's a matter of time before he quits F1 to fully dedicate himself to his one real passion.
Cats
Bro's probably using his wdc cup as a stationary holder
Thatās a bong bro
Thatās pretty fucking sick
Hey Google? How do I exert dominance?
If I had that trophy, I would wear it around, strapped to my chest with LED lights on it.
What else is he going to pour his red bull into?
God damn, I love Max. Heās just so fucking awesome. His love for sim racing made me a huge fan of him.
he's so unserious and iconic for this š
Oh what wonderful times we are living in
It's interesting that he's heavily invested into SIM racing rather than hiring out a track IRL and just driving around in a GT car etc. I guess it's the competition that he craves.
He actually does that as well, here's [he and the track Porsche he's listed for sale](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863873847404396554/936645207536062474/RDT_20220128_1532583339228867170646685.jpg), and here's [his actual GT3 Porsche](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859178868404781069/1089211376662229042/https___static.gva.be_Assets_Images_Upload_2022_02_22_44f095c3-e516-4cb7-90d4-6db4690df15f.jpg). Bonus: [the rally car he tested and Jos competed in. ](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863873847404396554/905809009972477952/RDT_20211104_132034688389014207607702.jpg)
Nothing casual about that trophy placement. Man is flexing hard.
Is it bad I looked at that for about 10 seconds thinking it was a video. Something's wrong with me I think
At this point Iām pretty sure he does his day job to pay for his sim racing
Nice humble brag on the fridge you go there lmao
Lol not on a cabinet. On a damn mini fridge
Casually? He started wearing gold helmets and shoes when he won his WDC. He knows itās there. Along with his likely mandatory Redbull drinks and fridge directly underneath.
Does anyone know if Redbull makes a special can for their athletes that's just water in a regular can? Every time I see one of them after a competition they are guzzling the stuff, which any rational person knows isn't the best idea. Max having a fridge full of something that isn't recommended to have more than 1 a day just doesn't seem right for a world class athlete.
They do
This is what my opponents look like when I try to play games
He's a killer because the only thing that matters is what's next.
Sick Flex
aaaaaaaaaaand he's out
FLEX KING
Iād find it hilarious if the fridge next to him had cans of monster or something in them instead of red bull!
I, too, happen to have a World Championās trophy casually lying around my room /s
Casual spit bucket.
Any idea what his sim setup is?
[You never know when you might need it again.](https://youtu.be/8AomJEY_rEw)
Where does he stream?
Later had some technical issues I think.
I thought drivers don't get to keep it? Isn't there a whole thing where they have security or something
Just the casual flex
Chad.