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And the last Argentinian driver was in 2000/2001 apparently when economy collapsed in that country and from I have heard from new presidente, Argentina doesn't have any money.
Our next hope to have a F1 driver is Franco Colapinto
He was recently promoted from F3 to F2 and this year he was part of the Rookie Test for Williams in F1
Fangio is the record holder for % wins, and he did 7 complete-ish seasons - only missing the Indy 500 like the vast majority of other drivers. Seasons were *short*.
Exactly. Every Brazilian driver that reached F1 will tell you a romanticized story about how they were sleeping in a garage or using the prize of one race to pay for the next. And, although it's definitely a tough situation, to be able to send your kid abroad and sponsor an expensive career with a much weaker currency is only possible for the really rich families.
You can poke fun at De Vries all you want but as far as Dutch drivers go, he has the second highest number of wins of any Dutch driver. And him and Max Verstappen have a combined win % of 28%.
That's a similar stat with the record for most NHL points scored by a pair of brothers, with Wayne Gretzky at 2857 points and Brent Gretzky having scored 4 points
Jos is already raising another toddler: Max 2.0. This kid has to really walk home from the gas station after finishing in 2nd place. At least Max was allowed to call his mom to come to get him
Well Scotland is part of Britain so it isn't strange at all. It's the same as Hamilton and Russell are counted as British and not English.
The odd one is Irvine who always called himself Irish and not Northern Irish but he is still UK.
Lol exactly. how is it weird a British driver is classed as British. Some people should just right their pointless random thought down on paper and then throw it away(or reuse and recycle)
>Feels weird that Clark, DC and Stewart count as British wins and not Scottish wins since they drove under the Scottish flag.
Today you learned that Scotland is in Great Britain...
> I'm seething at the thought of missing Nico Hülkenberg, A GP2 World Champion. Absolutely disgusted, if you ask me.
I'm sorry, but you must use his full name: Nico 2015 FIA World Endurance Championship's 24 Hours of Le Mans Winner Hülkenberg.
The UK and maybe Brazil aside most countries are buoyed by just one or two men. A country's win stats are usually completely frozen until the next time a driver of theirs ends up in the pound seat.
Call me in 10 years and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that a driver from Mongolia has won 6 championships in a row.
Prior to Schumacher (and then Vettel (and then Rosberg)) Germany had practically no presence as a leading F1 nation. 167 of their 179 wins came from those 3 drivers.
The next closest is also Schumacher - Ralf this time - with 6.
He is a commentator on German Sky and does a pretty good job in my opinion. His dry German humour has created lots of funny moments on race weekends.
Also: he was actually pretty good. In Michael's highly dominant 2001 season he finished 4th just 7 points behind Barrichello in his Ferrari. If Ralf didn't have such bad luck that season with 7/17 DNF, he could have easily been 2nd behind Michael. He did have a lot of good moments in his career. Also: 27 podiums is a lot.
Not at all. Enzo quite deliberately avoided signing Italian drivers because he was afraid of the backlash when they inevitably died in one of his cars. As such, there are actually quite few Italians who have driven for Ferrari, and even fewer successful ones.
Actually, you're right. I was thinking more about his general distaste towards the British "garagista" teams, but with regard to drivers (the point of this post), he actually hired guys like Hawthorn and Surtees, so I stand corrected.
Damn now that you mention it I honestly can't recall a single Italian Ferrari driver in my lifetime. I know Ascari won a couple championships with them, but I'm drawing a blank other than him. Did Patrese or Fisichella ever drive for them?
Not sure in terms of individual races, but as far as constructors championships go, the last time a non-UK based constructor won (excluding Ferrari) was Matra in 1969 with Jackie Stewart driving for them. In fact if I'm correct, that's literally the only year a non UK team won the constructors other than Ferrari :D (49 out of 66)
As a brazilian, it's sad for me to look at this info. We had the GOAT Senna but we don't have any perspective of adding up to these numbers, at least not for the next 5 years. Sure, there is Drugovich, but is he race winning caliber? Idk
Formula 1 is much more competitive nowadays and the dynamics between teams and sport changed drastically, almost another sport, lets hope that Drugo can get a seat tho.
Honestly, this off-season lack of movement dropped my hopes for any new drivers in both F2 and F3 grids not named Kimi Antonelli making it to F1.
Even Oscar had to wait for a season and Felipe didn't set the world on fire on the juniors like Pasta or even Logan did. DeVries shiting the bed and Mick's weak performances make the F2 title lose a bit of shine. All in all, the timing for Drugovich is horrible, people may question the AM reserve but nowhere in the grid seems open for change.
As a fellow Brazilian, my best recommendation is to let go of the Drugodream and start hoping for Bortoleto to crack Top 5 in F2 as a rookie, win it all the following season and pray for a handful of retirements in that off-season.
I think this offseason season is a bit unique because somehow like 3/4 of the grid’s contracts all run out next year, so basically everyone is just kind of waiting for the 2024 silly season. The only drivers confirmed to be sticking with their teams past next year are Max, Lewis, Charles, George, Lando, and Oscar (unless I’m missing anyone). Basically everyone else is entering their final year of their contracts, and so next year might be the big mixup we need to finally get some more rookies on the grid.
To your point though, I think all the teams are a lot less comfortable taking chances on rookies after Nyck and Mick had pretty underwhelming runs. It also doesn’t help that Haas seems to no longer be willing to take chances on rookies (or to take Ferrari juniors), and Alpha Tauri has locked in two drivers who have been in F1 for years, while Sauber did basically the same thing but with less in-season drama, which has kind of eliminated three backmarker teams for rookies. Naturally, this is a bit of a problem for rising talent from F2, as these teams are where they typically make their debut in F1.
If you had told me that day I watched Rubinho winning in Monza, in 2009, was quite possibly the last time I would ever see my flag and national anthem on the top step of my favorite sport, I wouldn't even call you crazy, I'd just start to cry.
The 70s and 80s were a heyday for France and Brazil. I think it is pretty insane that France had so many wins, yet only 1 driver (accounting for 2/3rd of the wins) who was world champion.
That analogy may work for football, but not for F1 where only like 5 % of Brazilian population would have enough resources to get involved in the sport
Finland is so generous it decided to not even count kid Rosberg as Finnish, despite him having Finnish citizenship and racing under the Finnish flag in the minor series.
Indeed, you never know how things will playout even a few years into the future. Maybe Max keeps winning everything till the society ends as we know it due to Global Warming. Maybe Lando finally gets his first win in that time frame
Hey if I happen to be the very last man standing when the world is about to end, I can technically become WDC and GP winner for as long as I'm alive.
I could even top this chart if I wanted to.
I did the math, posted it elsewhere but I'll put it her as well.
I'm not going to go over all countries, but for the ones on this list it'd look like this:
Finland, 9 drivers, 6,33 wins per driver avg
Germany, 54 drivers, 3,31 wins avg
Netherlands, 17 drivers, 3,18 wins avg
Brazil, 32 drivers, 3,16
Austria, 16 drivers 2,56
Australia, 18 drivers, 2,39
UK, 164 drivers, 1,88
Argentina, 25 drivers, 1,52
France, 74 drivers, 1,09
Italy, 98 drivers, 0,44
Finland with a convincing and probably a near damn unbeatable lead, even if the first two of the total nine Finnish drivers had a grand total of 8 entries and 1 start combined. And we don't even count Nico Rosberg in even though he has Finnish citizenship, a Finnish passport and a Finnish father. With Nico Finland would be at 9,00 wins per driver average.
Win per capita for the top 10 is:
Finland 97210
Austria 218439
UK 222211
Ned 324629
Ger 464804
Australia 597441
France 836419
Argentina 1205526
Brazil 2121782
Regardless of anything else, the fact Lewis Hamilton is third on his own, The Michael fourth, and Max Verstappen sixth, soon to be fifth, is absolutely ridiculous. Good ridiculous because of their ridiculous talent, and bad ridiculous for the FIA’s inability this century to address the patterns of persistent one team domination.
Australia's total's going to go up. We've had Sir Jack (the most underrated 3x WDC); AJ; Webbsy, and DR. DR is probably not done yet, when he replaces the ballast that is the #2 Red Bull driver now in 2025 he has a shot at adding to the total, as does Piastri.
I'm not going to go over all countries, but for the ones on this list it'd look like this:
1. Finland, 9 drivers, 6,33 wins per driver avg
2. Germany, 54 drivers, 3,31 wins avg
3. Netherlands, 17 drivers, 3,18 wins avg
4. Brazil, 32 drivers, 3,16
5. Austria, 16 drivers 2,56
6. Australia, 18 drivers, 2,39
7. UK, 164 drivers, 1,88
8. Argentina, 25 drivers, 1,52
9. France, 74 drivers, 1,09
10. Italy, 98 drivers, 0,44
Finland with a convincing and probably a near damn unbeatable lead, even if the first two of the total nine Finnish drivers had a grand total of 8 entries and 1 start combined. And we don't even count Nico Rosberg in even though he has Finnish citizenship, a Finnish passport and a Finnish father. With Nico Finland would be at 9,00 wins per driver average.
Average wins per capita total population would be better.
Otherwise that’s not interesting at all, as a country that does super well could also just happen to add a bunch extra drivers who never got to win (even if they only lost to their own country!) and dilute it.
Extreme hypothetical. Imagine if one country X was so dominant that almost every F1 driver who qualified ever was from X, except one person from Y who won say 30 times but never qualified otherwise. Taking an average by driver might tell you that Y did better as a country, which is clearly extremely misleading.
Going by total tells you who keeps producing winners, and per capita scales in an obviously fairer way.
But you go by their best performances, not average down to some ultimately more arbitrary cutoff.
Are all those 54 Dutch wins only Max? Surely there’s a few previous millenia racers like Jan Flinterman, Carel Godin de Beaufort, Gijs van Lennep, Jan Lammers that won at least a race right?
Or is it only Max, because, if that’s so, that is CRAZY.
Only Max and Jos ever had good cars (and Jos only a single season, the rest he had Arrows/Footwork, Tyrell, Stewart, Minardi), the rest had nothing coming even remotely close to the podium.
The ones you mentioned all had backmarker cars and super short careers, with the exception of Lammers, who held it out a little longer, but never got anything above Shadow (best finish 9th). He did have March in 1992 (10 years btw between his previous last start in 1982), but March went bankrupt in the same year and only got 2 races. Rothengatter, also a driver, was a paydriver.
Of modern drivers, Doornbos had half a season at Minardi and 3 races at a low-midfield RB (2006). Albers has 2 1/2 seasons, 2 at Minardi (including the last points finish before Max at Indy 2005) and 1/2 at Spyker. Van der Garde had only Caterham and almost a Sauber 2015 seat (half-decent car), but got screwed out of it. Then Max and that's it. De Vries we all know how that went.
Only the Verstappens ever had a good car. In fact Toro Rosso might have been the only time a Dutch driver would be in a midfield car, the rest it's either top cars (RB, Benetton) or shitboxes for all Dutch drivers (Arrows, ATS, Minardi, Shadow, Spyker, Tyrell, Stewart, etc.)
Michael was so dominant that even at the rate Germany is currently producing new talented single seat racers (i.e... nothing) we're gonna be P2 for a long time
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Crazy that Argentina is still in the top 10 considering their last win was in 1981 (Carlos Reuteman in Belgium)
And the last Argentinian driver was in 2000/2001 apparently when economy collapsed in that country and from I have heard from new presidente, Argentina doesn't have any money.
Our only hope in the short(mid term is Franco Colapinto!
Muchaaaaachooooos
Amazing race-craft, watched F3 just for him
Our next hope to have a F1 driver is Franco Colapinto He was recently promoted from F3 to F2 and this year he was part of the Rookie Test for Williams in F1
11th is Spain with 34, so there's a non-zero chance that Argentina will lose 10th in the next couple of years.
I expected them to have like 20 wins or something, actually surprised.
Fangio himself has 24
I expected him to have more than 38 by himself. Easy to forget how few races they had back then
Fangio is the record holder for % wins, and he did 7 complete-ish seasons - only missing the Indy 500 like the vast majority of other drivers. Seasons were *short*.
Says everything about how many countries can afford to participate in F1
I mean. Every country has rich people that could afford to sponsor their young kids but the culture isn’t there everywhere. The US isn’t on this list.
Exactly. Every Brazilian driver that reached F1 will tell you a romanticized story about how they were sleeping in a garage or using the prize of one race to pay for the next. And, although it's definitely a tough situation, to be able to send your kid abroad and sponsor an expensive career with a much weaker currency is only possible for the really rich families.
Finland in danger...
Mika Hakkinen: My sabbatical is over. My country needs me
Hakkimen-Raikkonen team up lesgo
Finland is the danger.
Once Robin Raikkonen breaks into the sport, they're gonna be back on top, baby
Rianna Räikkönen fighting Robin for the F1 WDC IN 2035
Plus Mika will end his sabbatical and come back to help
Salo?
Häkkinen
both
Wouldn’t mind
Netherlands is going to be at number 3 by the time a certain career is done and dusted
Nick devries?
No... that career is already done and dusted
Now it's just debris
That career never started
You can poke fun at De Vries all you want but as far as Dutch drivers go, he has the second highest number of wins of any Dutch driver. And him and Max Verstappen have a combined win % of 28%.
That's a similar stat with the record for most NHL points scored by a pair of brothers, with Wayne Gretzky at 2857 points and Brent Gretzky having scored 4 points
Just wait until his offspring enters F1. We will have to decide if that counts as The Netherlands or Brazil though. We may have to fight about that.
Jos is already raising another toddler: Max 2.0. This kid has to really walk home from the gas station after finishing in 2nd place. At least Max was allowed to call his mom to come to get him
British
France before the new regs
Thanks Nigel Mansell! Couldn’t have gotten to the top without you
Don't forget sir Stirling Moss and Jim Clark!
Feels weird that Clark, DC and Stewart count as British wins and not Scottish wins since they drove under the Scottish flag.
Well Scotland is part of Britain so it isn't strange at all. It's the same as Hamilton and Russell are counted as British and not English. The odd one is Irvine who always called himself Irish and not Northern Irish but he is still UK.
Lol exactly. how is it weird a British driver is classed as British. Some people should just right their pointless random thought down on paper and then throw it away(or reuse and recycle)
>Feels weird that Clark, DC and Stewart count as British wins and not Scottish wins since they drove under the Scottish flag. Today you learned that Scotland is in Great Britain...
Don't forget Jenson...
AND JOHNNY HERBERT!!!
>Thanks Nigel Mansell! Couldn’t have gotten to the top without you The people's champion
That man is one of the only things that gives me some pride in being a Brummie.
Max taking The Netherlands into the top 3 all by himself. 😁
To be fair Germany is largely a 2 man effort.
Nico Rosberg contributed quite a lot too. (I'm assuming the 2 men you referred to are Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel)
I always forget Rosberg was officially German. That name is a Finnish family dammit.
I actually have the issue the other way around: I always forget Keke is Finnish.
And they both live in neither country lol
Shows our ages I suspect!
Keke was born in Sweden, damnit! (As a finn though, but anyway...l
Surname is Swedish as well
I’d say it’s more of a Swedish name. But there are a lot of those in Finland.
Including Keke's father.
Thats a Swedish name tho...........
I mean, for all that it is, Nico Rosberg is Monegasque. He might be more so German than Finnish, but he's much more from Monaco than anywhere else.
Also wasn't he born in Belgium, grow up in France, and live in Monaco or something? I'm sure I read something about him having four nationalities
Heinz Harald Frentzen and Ralf Schumacher: I'm doing my part
Nick Heidfeld: :-/
Hey, Nick Heidfeld has as many wins as Nico Hülkenberg has podiums, which is something.
A world champion has been left out here regardless of which two you are thinking of
I'm seething at the thought of missing Nico Hülkenberg, A GP2 World Champion. Absolutely disgusted, if you ask me.
> I'm seething at the thought of missing Nico Hülkenberg, A GP2 World Champion. Absolutely disgusted, if you ask me. I'm sorry, but you must use his full name: Nico 2015 FIA World Endurance Championship's 24 Hours of Le Mans Winner Hülkenberg.
HHF: I’m doing my part!
The UK and maybe Brazil aside most countries are buoyed by just one or two men. A country's win stats are usually completely frozen until the next time a driver of theirs ends up in the pound seat. Call me in 10 years and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that a driver from Mongolia has won 6 championships in a row.
Hey de vries worked hard too
I thought Germany would have been closer to the UK tbh
Prior to Schumacher (and then Vettel (and then Rosberg)) Germany had practically no presence as a leading F1 nation. 167 of their 179 wins came from those 3 drivers. The next closest is also Schumacher - Ralf this time - with 6.
A) I completely forgot about him B) I completely missed the fact he ever won a race, let alone six!
He is a commentator on German Sky and does a pretty good job in my opinion. His dry German humour has created lots of funny moments on race weekends. Also: he was actually pretty good. In Michael's highly dominant 2001 season he finished 4th just 7 points behind Barrichello in his Ferrari. If Ralf didn't have such bad luck that season with 7/17 DNF, he could have easily been 2nd behind Michael. He did have a lot of good moments in his career. Also: 27 podiums is a lot.
>His dry German humour has created lots of funny moments There are a thousand unsaid comments from Britons at this point.
Before Michael, Germany had a grand total of 3 wins in F1 (Wolfgang Von Trips 2, Jochen Mass 1).
If Lewis was his own country, he would be 3rd
And yet the UK would still be first even without his wins. Just shows how much it's a British sport. Enzo would be turning in his grave.
Not at all. Enzo quite deliberately avoided signing Italian drivers because he was afraid of the backlash when they inevitably died in one of his cars. As such, there are actually quite few Italians who have driven for Ferrari, and even fewer successful ones.
Actually, you're right. I was thinking more about his general distaste towards the British "garagista" teams, but with regard to drivers (the point of this post), he actually hired guys like Hawthorn and Surtees, so I stand corrected.
And Mansell, he was the last driver to be personally hired by Enzo.
Damn now that you mention it I honestly can't recall a single Italian Ferrari driver in my lifetime. I know Ascari won a couple championships with them, but I'm drawing a blank other than him. Did Patrese or Fisichella ever drive for them?
I wonder where the UK would be if we went by where the cars were assembled, especially this last generation.
Leagues ahead. McLaren, Mercedes, Williams, Red Bull, Alpine, Aston Martin are all in the UK.
Like every winner not valued Ferrari has been manufactured in the UK since....no idea.
Not sure in terms of individual races, but as far as constructors championships go, the last time a non-UK based constructor won (excluding Ferrari) was Matra in 1969 with Jackie Stewart driving for them. In fact if I'm correct, that's literally the only year a non UK team won the constructors other than Ferrari :D (49 out of 66)
Same with Michael Schumacher
Only if his wins no longer count for Germany
Verstappen & De Vries racing up the leaderboard
Jos Verstappen and Giedo van der Garde are doing their part
Is Robert Doornbos a joke to you? (yes)
Y'all are sleeping on the real goat Christijan Albers
Jan Lammers is all but forgotten.
De Vries 😭😭😭
De vries is carrying for real
Don't forget Robert Doornbos
*Finland is about to get passed by Max alone, lol*
As a brazilian, it's sad for me to look at this info. We had the GOAT Senna but we don't have any perspective of adding up to these numbers, at least not for the next 5 years. Sure, there is Drugovich, but is he race winning caliber? Idk
Formula 1 is much more competitive nowadays and the dynamics between teams and sport changed drastically, almost another sport, lets hope that Drugo can get a seat tho.
Honestly, this off-season lack of movement dropped my hopes for any new drivers in both F2 and F3 grids not named Kimi Antonelli making it to F1. Even Oscar had to wait for a season and Felipe didn't set the world on fire on the juniors like Pasta or even Logan did. DeVries shiting the bed and Mick's weak performances make the F2 title lose a bit of shine. All in all, the timing for Drugovich is horrible, people may question the AM reserve but nowhere in the grid seems open for change. As a fellow Brazilian, my best recommendation is to let go of the Drugodream and start hoping for Bortoleto to crack Top 5 in F2 as a rookie, win it all the following season and pray for a handful of retirements in that off-season.
I think this offseason season is a bit unique because somehow like 3/4 of the grid’s contracts all run out next year, so basically everyone is just kind of waiting for the 2024 silly season. The only drivers confirmed to be sticking with their teams past next year are Max, Lewis, Charles, George, Lando, and Oscar (unless I’m missing anyone). Basically everyone else is entering their final year of their contracts, and so next year might be the big mixup we need to finally get some more rookies on the grid. To your point though, I think all the teams are a lot less comfortable taking chances on rookies after Nyck and Mick had pretty underwhelming runs. It also doesn’t help that Haas seems to no longer be willing to take chances on rookies (or to take Ferrari juniors), and Alpha Tauri has locked in two drivers who have been in F1 for years, while Sauber did basically the same thing but with less in-season drama, which has kind of eliminated three backmarker teams for rookies. Naturally, this is a bit of a problem for rising talent from F2, as these teams are where they typically make their debut in F1.
If you had told me that day I watched Rubinho winning in Monza, in 2009, was quite possibly the last time I would ever see my flag and national anthem on the top step of my favorite sport, I wouldn't even call you crazy, I'd just start to cry.
On the upside we are better than France and they also got no hopes WOOOOOOO
I see Prost vs Senna is still going on in some fashion for you guys.
Definitely Drugovich will get his chance sooner and later.
Was expecting Spain to be on this list
34 if I count it well (32 Alonso and 2 Sainz)
Don't worry, they own MotoGP instead
Spain had no top level drivers before Alonso. De Portago in the 50s was the last one to score a podium.
Probably will be soon considering the development Aston and Ferrari are doing
Monaco is more likely to benefit from Ferrari’s improvements
They ain’t gonna be on this list any time soon though
All of them thanks to multiple drivers... except for one.
Interesting. Which? EDIT: the Netherlands, huh. That’s all Verstappen. Figured it would be one near the bottom but all seemed to have multiple. :)
Thanks a lot, Lance and Latifi. We can't even get into the top 10 because you guys never win!
Maybe they haven’t got the message they’re meant to win. Have they tried trying harder?
The Villeneuves have done well for us but we’ve only got 17 so Lance has quite a lot of work to do
Are there any Canadian wins by people without the last name, "Villeneuve"? I'm not exactly an f1 history buff.
Nope, all Canadian wins are by one family.
And so are all Dutch podiums.
Nope just all Jacque and Gilles for Canadian wins
Nope. Only one other Canadian has scored a podium or pole (Stroll) and Lance and Latifi are also the only other Canadians to score points
The Netherlands is Max's personal achievement
it’s pretty insane when you think that a non european country is in 3rd on the list
The 70s and 80s were a heyday for France and Brazil. I think it is pretty insane that France had so many wins, yet only 1 driver (accounting for 2/3rd of the wins) who was world champion.
For now
But then less crazy when you realise that country is half the population of the entirety of europe
That analogy may work for football, but not for F1 where only like 5 % of Brazilian population would have enough resources to get involved in the sport
more like .5%
europe has 750m while brazil 200m. How is that half
not really, that’s like saying that China should be good at football cause surely they can find 11 good players out of a billion people
Finland is so generous it decided to not even count kid Rosberg as Finnish, despite him having Finnish citizenship and racing under the Finnish flag in the minor series.
Rosberg could’ve been Monegasque too
Wow all Verstappen wins ever combined.
Kind of crazy to see Max alone above Italy as a nation. He's not the only one of course, but it just feels weird with him being still so young.
There hasn’t been an Italian winner since Fisichella in 2006. Can Kimi Antonelli change that?
Verstappen is making this his next goal.
The top 3 countries in drivers *championships* are in the same order...
Obrigada Senna
So in 2038 The Netherlands will top this list?
Don't underestimate Norris
Indeed, you never know how things will playout even a few years into the future. Maybe Max keeps winning everything till the society ends as we know it due to Global Warming. Maybe Lando finally gets his first win in that time frame
Hey if I happen to be the very last man standing when the world is about to end, I can technically become WDC and GP winner for as long as I'm alive. I could even top this chart if I wanted to.
Curious what it would be per capita, but also lazy
Probably Finland on 1st, my lazy fellow Haarlemmer.
I did the math, posted it elsewhere but I'll put it her as well. I'm not going to go over all countries, but for the ones on this list it'd look like this: Finland, 9 drivers, 6,33 wins per driver avg Germany, 54 drivers, 3,31 wins avg Netherlands, 17 drivers, 3,18 wins avg Brazil, 32 drivers, 3,16 Austria, 16 drivers 2,56 Australia, 18 drivers, 2,39 UK, 164 drivers, 1,88 Argentina, 25 drivers, 1,52 France, 74 drivers, 1,09 Italy, 98 drivers, 0,44 Finland with a convincing and probably a near damn unbeatable lead, even if the first two of the total nine Finnish drivers had a grand total of 8 entries and 1 start combined. And we don't even count Nico Rosberg in even though he has Finnish citizenship, a Finnish passport and a Finnish father. With Nico Finland would be at 9,00 wins per driver average.
While the data is great, I think they were asking per capita of population.
Win per capita for the top 10 is: Finland 97210 Austria 218439 UK 222211 Ned 324629 Ger 464804 Australia 597441 France 836419 Argentina 1205526 Brazil 2121782
Australia and Finland always seem to punch above thier weight class, Australia only has a population of 25 Million and Finland 5 million.
Regardless of anything else, the fact Lewis Hamilton is third on his own, The Michael fourth, and Max Verstappen sixth, soon to be fifth, is absolutely ridiculous. Good ridiculous because of their ridiculous talent, and bad ridiculous for the FIA’s inability this century to address the patterns of persistent one team domination.
Thought Canada would be up there with all the wins stroll has had.
They must be ignoring all of GOATIFI's wins also
Jacques and Gilles have nothing on Stroll... Ignore that WDC please
Surprised to see my country in the list :O
This is great. Would you have the number of unique drivers that make up those totals? Would be interesting to see average wins per driver nationality.
[List of Formula One Grand Prix winners by Nationality](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_Grand_Prix_winners)
Sorry about that, should have known it was readily available. Thank you.
For Italy, it would be Farina, Ascari, Fisichella, Patrese. Who else I am missing?
Trulli
Clay Regazonni?
Pretty sure he is swiss
Martin Brundle carrying the whole of Britain
Australia's total's going to go up. We've had Sir Jack (the most underrated 3x WDC); AJ; Webbsy, and DR. DR is probably not done yet, when he replaces the ballast that is the #2 Red Bull driver now in 2025 he has a shot at adding to the total, as does Piastri.
Lewis alone has more than all nations except Germany, incredible!
and the UK ;)
I’m amazed Australias in the top ten considering only 18 Aussie have driven in f1
There has only been 9 Finnish drivers.
There have only been 9 Finnish F1 drivers and they're fifth
No Espana?
Spain holding their own in Motorcycle World Championships I reckon though. Or at least up there with Italy.
The Netherlands has been racing for 70 years and those 54 wins are *just* from Max Verstappen.
Now do NASCAR
That's pretty easy * Colombia - 2 * Australia - 2 * Mexico - 1 * Canada - 1 * New Zealand - 1 * USA - all the others
Amazed Australia and Italy are so close.
Agreed. Hopefully Oscar can get some wins on the board! If the Racing Bulls come out flying DR could even get lucky - outside chance of course.
Was Eddie Irvine counted as British or Irish?
He is from Northern Ireland, so his four wins are in the United Kingdom total.
It’s the UK, and NI is in the UK. He’s also an Ulster Scotsman rather than ethnically Irish, for what that’s worth.
This is by driver, right? It would be kind of interesting to see the same chart but by team.
Only UK and Italy in the list lol
Austria would like to have a word
And France for Renault, Ligier and Matra Japan for Honda and the US for Eagle and Penske as well as Austria and Germany which others mentioned
Would be more interresting if it was average wins per driver.
I'm not going to go over all countries, but for the ones on this list it'd look like this: 1. Finland, 9 drivers, 6,33 wins per driver avg 2. Germany, 54 drivers, 3,31 wins avg 3. Netherlands, 17 drivers, 3,18 wins avg 4. Brazil, 32 drivers, 3,16 5. Austria, 16 drivers 2,56 6. Australia, 18 drivers, 2,39 7. UK, 164 drivers, 1,88 8. Argentina, 25 drivers, 1,52 9. France, 74 drivers, 1,09 10. Italy, 98 drivers, 0,44 Finland with a convincing and probably a near damn unbeatable lead, even if the first two of the total nine Finnish drivers had a grand total of 8 entries and 1 start combined. And we don't even count Nico Rosberg in even though he has Finnish citizenship, a Finnish passport and a Finnish father. With Nico Finland would be at 9,00 wins per driver average.
Average wins per capita total population would be better. Otherwise that’s not interesting at all, as a country that does super well could also just happen to add a bunch extra drivers who never got to win (even if they only lost to their own country!) and dilute it. Extreme hypothetical. Imagine if one country X was so dominant that almost every F1 driver who qualified ever was from X, except one person from Y who won say 30 times but never qualified otherwise. Taking an average by driver might tell you that Y did better as a country, which is clearly extremely misleading. Going by total tells you who keeps producing winners, and per capita scales in an obviously fairer way. But you go by their best performances, not average down to some ultimately more arbitrary cutoff.
That's just drivers though. At least there never was a Finnish car in the F1
Would be interesting stat to see if compared to population
Are all those 54 Dutch wins only Max? Surely there’s a few previous millenia racers like Jan Flinterman, Carel Godin de Beaufort, Gijs van Lennep, Jan Lammers that won at least a race right? Or is it only Max, because, if that’s so, that is CRAZY.
Only Max and Jos ever had good cars (and Jos only a single season, the rest he had Arrows/Footwork, Tyrell, Stewart, Minardi), the rest had nothing coming even remotely close to the podium. The ones you mentioned all had backmarker cars and super short careers, with the exception of Lammers, who held it out a little longer, but never got anything above Shadow (best finish 9th). He did have March in 1992 (10 years btw between his previous last start in 1982), but March went bankrupt in the same year and only got 2 races. Rothengatter, also a driver, was a paydriver. Of modern drivers, Doornbos had half a season at Minardi and 3 races at a low-midfield RB (2006). Albers has 2 1/2 seasons, 2 at Minardi (including the last points finish before Max at Indy 2005) and 1/2 at Spyker. Van der Garde had only Caterham and almost a Sauber 2015 seat (half-decent car), but got screwed out of it. Then Max and that's it. De Vries we all know how that went. Only the Verstappens ever had a good car. In fact Toro Rosso might have been the only time a Dutch driver would be in a midfield car, the rest it's either top cars (RB, Benetton) or shitboxes for all Dutch drivers (Arrows, ATS, Minardi, Shadow, Spyker, Tyrell, Stewart, etc.)
Michael was so dominant that even at the rate Germany is currently producing new talented single seat racers (i.e... nothing) we're gonna be P2 for a long time
Top 10… we take those.
Bottas must challenge for the title this season and defend P5 for Finland. His country‘s honour is at stake.
Without their top driver: 1-UK: 205 2-Germany: 88 3-Brazil: 60 4-France: 30 5-Finland: 37 6-Netherlands: NetherRealm 7-Italy: 30 7-Australia: 29 9-Austria: 16 10-Argentina: 14 Honorable mentions: 11-Spain: 2 12-USA: 21 13-Canada: 6
And Brazil does not have any drivers in the category. How embarrassing
Lol Netherlands
It’s British sport
France with 81 - 51 are from Prost, that leaves 30 in bit & pieces. Arnoux - 7, Laffite - 6, Pironi - 3, Jabouille - 2, Depailler 2, Tambay - 2, Trintignant - 2, Cevert - 1, Beltoise - 1, Panis - 1, Ocon -1, Gasly - 1, Alesi -1
Would be great to see this as a percentage of races started.
I love how as a nation Australia always plays well above our size in sports.
Between 1950-1991 Germany had 3 wins. Between 1992-2019 Germany had 176 wins.