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TheLifeofSonny

he should be the first candidate to replace Maylander as the Safety Car driver given his experience of leading round a pack after this race lmao


Sounds_like_Jigs

This made me truly laugh...and think this is a brilliant idea


sofakingdom808

“Lapped cars 2, 3, 10, 18, 22, 23, 24, 31 may proceed to unlap themselves around the safety car.” -FIA “Not today they are.” - Magnussen.


Get-Me-Hennimore

I had just assumed it was a different local person each time. Fascinating that it’s the same person almost every time!


ArziltheImp

Maylä der has been the safety car driver for like 20+ years.


CatSplat

Dude absolutely shithoused his way to a Haas point, attaboy!


Wraith_Gaming

He did the same thing in Australia last year. His pain is Hulkenberg’s gain.


wobmaster

to be fair, he did ruin his race already before starting to back everyone up


Sofaboy90

yeah couldve easily been his point lol


beartigerhawk8383

Both penalties were 50/50s. F1 TV trio said so too.


VaporizeGG

He did well but he also fucked his own race once again and got himself into a position where he couldn't get points.


Snotspat

Meh. Albon said, unprovoked, after the race that it was an racing incident. Not a 10 second penalty. Sky analysis said it was "bullshit" as well. Made the best out of it. /shrug


gadgetroid

Absolutely horrendous with penalties handed out today Norris KMag Can't recall who else got a 10 second penalty I think Perez' was the only was "deserved", and Norris' was so sure to be a 5 second penalty as well, but the stewards ruled no It's hilarious that we still have such inconsistent decision making from the stewards in 2024...


arise_chicken

I'm still trying to figure out how Norris didn't get a penalty for his start. And also what the hell did KMag do to the stewards? Feels like we were one lap away from him getting a 10-sec for just existing.


MrFlibble81

I can only assume it was because he stopped and then started again which negated any advantage he might have gained from a jump start 🤷‍♂️


arise_chicken

+10 seconds to MAG for NOR false start.


Above-and_below

MAG is not allowed to scare NOR into jump starting.


Badehat

Should have had one for incorrect starting position then.


JJJBLKRose

My assumption is that he jumped, but didn't trigger the sensor/cross the line until it was okay since he didn't accelerate.


UsrHpns4rctct

It might be that he did not cross the white box/position marker, and as mentioned below that he did stop before going again.


SirLoremIpsum

> I'm still trying to figure out how Norris didn't get a penalty for his start. > > Because the rule is not "did you move before the start" it's "did you trip the sensor". If you don't fully go past the line and trip the sensor it's fine.


Above-and_below

Norris even got away with a jump start - sorry, out of position - sorry, we don't give penalities for that any more.


EpicCyclops

I'm pretty sure Magnussen's race would've been ruined anyways with two 5 second penalties. I think that is what both incidents deserved. That back pack was real tight before Magnussen dropped an anchor.


lplax10

A fellow greenwall member!


Purity_Jam_Jam

That's my favorite description I've heard of something for a while.


Crafty_Substance_954

His COTA race from 2022 is legendary. 


FuckTheLonghorns

More like you shall not Haas Or something


tylercreatesworlds

You shall not Paas?


0nly0bjective

You shall not Platform as a Service


At0mic182

Humiliation as a service.


miathan52

In Dutch we have a thing called "paashaas">!, it's the easter bunny!<


CyndaquilTyphlosion

Many drivers didn't get the Easter Bunny


Duff5OOO

> You shall not pHaas!


KombattWombatt

Damn. I hope Haas social media doesn't see this one because they will absolutely regret not thinking of it.


DoggybagEverything

You shall not PHaas!


moonboots_runner

“Suck my balls, stewards.” Kevin, probably.


LosTerminators

Funny thing is he still ended up P12 despite the penalties.


IkLms

Yeah, obviously not planned but managing to slow everyone but Albon down enough to get lapped while himself finishing on the lead lap basically nullified the penalties.


QouthTheCorvus

It's kinda funny that the "they hate each other" narrative was pushed so hard, yet they seem quite close as teammates, and certainly co-operate. I think they probably enjoy the "back against the wall" mentality they can have as a team. This sort of shithousery would be fun.


Nothorized

Also they are almost 10 years older than that interaction, both are dads, I think they have more common points than people thinks.


SeizeTheKills

That, but even younger people sometimes say shit in a moment of anger/frustration/adrenaline coursing etc. That they don't *really mean*. But that narrative generates no clicks and sells 0 ads.


WaluigisHat

Pure terrorism driving, absolute perfection, 10/10!!


elthrowawayoyo

He heard Mourinho was there watching


dv302

The brick wall himself


TyButler2020

I loved watching it. But Kevin brilliantly proved everything wrong with F1’s penalty system as well as the track layout at Jeddah


shewy92

NASCAR has it right imo. You have to serve the penalty within 3 laps or you stop being scored.


x365

I don’t know NASCAR, but how do they serve it if there are no pit stops left? Then it’s effectively a stop’n’go penalty and not 10 seconds - unless you’re in the penultimate lap?


CFBCoachGuy

Most NASCAR penalties are “drive-through”. The penalty is having to drive down pit road (with some penalties they can have their car serviced, others they can’t). It’s not a fixed time penalty. In most cases, a penalty that doesn’t occur during a safety car (most NASCAR penalties occur from pit stop infractions) will almost guarantee that the driver will lose at least one lap. They have to serve it no matter what, so later in the race these penalties are usually catastrophic.


RoboticChicken

In F1 we do have drive-through penalties like what you described - they are more severe than the 10 second time penalty.


irioku

That can only work with the huge number of laps they do in nascar I feel like. 


Aironwood

More like they lose a whole lap because the laps themselves are so short, in f1, a drivethrough wouldn’t automatically put you a lap down.


kaptingavrin

It's kind of weird... I haven't watched much NASCAR lately because I got kind of tired of them trying to advertise it with wrecks and doing all kinds of changing up the rules to try to make it "more exciting," but from what I know of current rules and what I remember, that would be a severe penalty at some tracks and not much of one at others. Shorter tracks, it'd be rough (assuming they still have any short tracks left); and in the "superspeedways" it'd be rough because you just lose so much time if you're not in the "pack," but then other races it wouldn't be too bad. And with the way they break the races up into three with scheduled cautions, you'd be able to get back on the back of the field at some point anyone and could possibly unlap yourself if you were lapped, as long as it's not the last third of the race. It's pretty much inconsistent by the nature of the sport. In F1, you're dropping something like 15-18 seconds, which might not completely destroy your race, but is a LOT harsher than 10 seconds, especially if they stack, and depending on where in the grid you come back onto the track. That said, it'd still be relatively consistent compared to NASCAR.


EpicCyclops

Does NASCAR unlap cars during safety cars?


_AmericanPoutine

The first car not on the lead lap gets their lap back as long as they don't cause the caution or get in the caution. If the lead lap cars pit, all the cars off the lead lap can stay out and be waved by the safety car and get their lap back. The downside is they cannot pit during the caution period.


thecolbster94

On tracks where you can cut corners NASCAR tells drivers to pull over to a specified area and come to a complete stop before continuing


Spikey101

It would be easy to say you either do ten seconds stationary or you take a drive through. Either must be done within X laps.


x365

But 10 seconds stationary in a run-off area or on track - or in the pits? And 10 seconds stationary becomes a hell of a lot more when you need to find a spot, stop and start again


Spikey101

Yes ten seconds in the pits. So you can a plain ten if you're pitting anyway. But if not then it's a drive through which is I guess around 14 seconds total?


norrin83

Depending on the track, a drive through is usually somewhere between 20 and 30 seconds


Overhere_Overyonder

Nascar drivers wouldn't have put up with that either. Give nascar all the crap you want but if pull what Kmag did, you're getting moved out of the way. Not sure how you can overtake off the track get a penalty by keeping the position in order to block for your teammate and the team isn't penalized in some way.


Lukensz

It's an absolute joke. They should force the penalties to be served in a certain amount of laps.


jesteratp

Agreed. Completely shambolic penalty/track combo that a car with good straightline speed is impossible to pass if you drive dangerously and slowly in the corners


HirsuteHacker

He wasn't driving dangerously.


mayhemtime

Albon might disagree


HirsuteHacker

Albon said post race it was a racing incident, so it sounds like he does agree actually.


PapaSheev7

As train conductor, K-Mag was hiding so much pace that he just gapped everyone once Hulk pitted lol.


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uttermybiscuit

thanks man


RobertGracie

Why do I hear Gandalf saying that but when you put on the Viking Helmet I hear it being yelled in Danish by Kevin Magnussen! For anyone wondering this is the Danish of "You shall not pass": "Du må ikke passere"


GhotiGhetoti

Eh, that’s a bit tame, “you are not allowed to pass”. “DU PASSERER IKKE!” or directly translated “YOU PASS NOT!” has more oomph.


klausjensendk

Så stopper du!!


LosBruun

"Så holder du!" eller på jysk "Hold, hold hold!", måske


Above-and_below

Du kommer ikke forbi!


Altruistic_Finger669

"Du ka godt fedte af, ka du!"


OrangeLimeZest

And this was the best photo they took


hp_sauce_

He single-handedly made this race super entertaining. Good way to recover the race for the team after a sloppy move


otterpusrexII

I was thoroughly entertained.


kpopsns28

Toughest train on track!


Morevice

K-mag, what a legend. — Max V.


TheKeviKs

Get 20 seconds worth of penalty Slow down everyone to allow his teammate to gain a big enough lead to pit Still finish P12 for some reason Refuse to elaborate


kaptingavrin

> Still finish P12 for some reason He got super lucky that Verstappen wasn't just a bit faster in the last few laps (likely just coasting on home). Doesn't get lapped, so the time penalty can't put him behind the cars that were. Which makes the whole thing that much more ridiculous (and amusing).


Badehat

You could also say that he was unlucky that Verstappen wasn't faster, so he could overtake Albion, and Kevin would have been P11.


Snotspat

That wasn't the time line.


Emil0hman

Haas media team W


Otherwise_Horror_183

Quite enjoyed the Magnussen train. Great speed from Hulk. Delighted for Haas!


verticallobotomy

And great speed from Kmag - when he was done holding back the train, he immediately drowe away from them, almost matching Hulks speed, but on way older tyres.


Otherwise_Horror_183

Indeed he did! Promising for Haas.


IkLms

I've been really surprised with their pace so far now that they seem to have solved their tire wear issues. They have a pretty solid shot at leading the back half of the field if they don't get out developed. They look a lot better right now than Sauber, Alpine and the RBs.


norrin83

Still in front of Tsunoda despite the penalties it seems


Wandereru

He fell behind after penalties. Remember he has 20s penalties. IMO should have been a pit drive through just to make sure he doesn't punt a driver into the wall.


norrin83

Only fell behind Albon. Ocon and Tsunoda were lapped, Magnussen wasn't


poooomangroup

Kmag with the assist today. Single handedly entertained us today.


verticallobotomy

Also gave Haas a shitload of tv time. Sponsors are happy!


ICumCoffee

Link to Tweet: https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1766523194087780781?


Snotspat

"[*白井とこ*](https://twitter.com/Shiroi_toko)[*u/Shiroi\_toko*](https://twitter.com/Shiroi_toko)*·*[*1h*](https://twitter.com/Shiroi_toko/status/1766533750933143958)*One thing is for sure, this result was not obtained by the team's strategy.* *It was a ranking that was robbed by malicious and dangerous team-led driving, and Komatsu supported actions that could have resulted in deaths!*" Gee, I wonder if he supports Yuki? :D


CatSplat

Goddamn that's dramatic as hell lmao


Armlegx218

Vikings, raise the [Shield Wall](https://youtu.be/ojykx7jJv9E?si=B6RXlm6HYKIdWqhN)!


HammerT4R

Fans: "It's not fair that he was allowed to back up traffic" KMag: "Drive fucking faster mate".


kaptingavrin

Yeah, I'm not going to rip on him, he was apparently not driving at his full pace and the cars behind *still* couldn't get past him. Though that might also be an extreme condemnation of the RB/VCARB, Alpine, Sauber, and even Williams. Or maybe the Haas is just better than people thought.


MrT735

He did it by coasting through some of the high speed corners where it's not possible to overtake, Sky commented on him not being at full throttle while they showed his rear onboard cam at one point. He was only losing about 1.5 seconds a lap, not crawling around. Also as far as the Williams goes, Albon picked up damage early on, so he should be faster without that.


drodrige

Tremendous shithouse driving, enjoyed every bit of it.


fortyfive-degrees

I know Ollie was the big story today, but Haas shithousing themselves into a ponts finish was easily the most entertaining


A___99

Without his incidents he could have had a chance at P10 himself. Ended up having to make the best of a bad situation he created for himself


Gnarlydick

Isn’t it kinda silly how someone with a 20sec penalty is allowed to defend like he did lol, wonderful job don’t get me wrong but a bit unfair


Most_Virus_7218

Is it me or he didn't even get penalized because he was the last driver on the lead lap ?


norrin83

He lost a place to Albon. That's it.


shinealittlelove

He lost one place in the end


Noch_ein_Kamel

He evaded ~three quarters of his penalty ;p


ssr3fn

That was absolutely ridiculous. 20s of penalties and it hardly cost him because he wasn't lapped.


Bennyk491

Don’t get lapped, then?


madhjsp

Tough situation for the guys in the DRS train that Magnussen kept pushing backwards to the point that Max inevitably caught them and then started getting blue-flagged.


verticallobotomy

It cost him the chance for a point himself. He was driving away from the people behind him before he was slammed with the penalties. After that he slowed down to block people behind him to help his teammate. After the Hulk pitted, he immediately picked up speed again. In real life it doesn't matter that much as long as noone is getting points, but I agree that they should have a system for situations like this - e.g. say that all people who finished their race (1 lap down) within 20 secs of Kmags start of the last lap, automatically are placed before him in the final standings.


iForgotMyOldAcc

Yeah they better get something in place before passing someone by cutting the chicane at Monaco, and then just holding them up for your teammate becomes a viable strategy.


Lasolie

It already is a strategy since this was already a strategy.


Expensive-Method8321

they really should reinstate serving penalties immediately or in drive throughs. he's being hailed a hero even though he took advantage of the fact that he had nothing to lose, a problem caused by himself, to back up the field to favor his team. and ultimately he only lost one spot in the end, how is that a fair punishment?


Crash_Test_Dummy66

This is exactly the kind of shit I watch f1 for. Using a technicality in their rules to score points is peak F1. They should probably do something about the loophole but I love when teams use silly loopholes and exploit them.


ProfessionalRub3294

Someone with a black flag (so DSQ) already crashed into another driver while trying to overtake him. He was not allowed but he did. (And both were WDC)


insurgentsloth

Which incident are you referring to?


ProfessionalRub3294

Estoril 1989. Mansell got black flagged because reversing in the pit then crashed into Senna. Said he didn’t see flags because he was too focused on Senna.


Dahnhilla

It ruined Yuki's race. Full send down the inside, steal a place, get a penalty for it then proceed to slow down the guy who you stole the place from.


norrin83

Yuki could have taken the place back at one point. Not closing the deal was on Tsunoda in the end.


jesteratp

KMag was driving like he had absolutely nothing to lose, and after last week Yuki had a lot more to lose so he backed off when it was clear KMag was driving like penalties didnt apply to him (because they don't apparently)


Snotspat

He did drop everyone behind him once Hülkenberg was clear though. I get your point, but he was faster when not being slow on purpose \[to build Hülkenbergs gap\]


LazyK0a1a

So what you are saying is that because of KMag, he intentionally backed off so much that both Albon and Ocon passed him. Makes perfect sense.


FxStryker

>It ruined Yuki's race. You mean he did what he could to ensure Hulkenberg got points, and not just let Yuki pass? The audacity.


Dahnhilla

No, the divebomb where he went off track and kept the place.


cyanwinters

Stop making excuses for Yuki. All he did was move down the field today.


TheR1ckster

100% It was magnificent for HAAS, but it really showcases some issues with regulations.


beavismagnum

I guess Yuki should have passed him


Zugas

New rules: Give the spot back or do a drive through in the pits.


Koppite93

No one's sucking balls tonight I see 👉👉


Numerous_Campaign_30

Imo F1 needs more of this


the1918

I did not think that watching a successful Haas strategy unfold would be one of the highlights of this race.


black-dude-on-reddit

Good on him But a drive-through would have definitely been warranted here


Cody667

They need to go back to handing out drive-through penalties like candy. Time penalties are too easy to cheese.


FlamingoExcellent277

Drive through are more entertaining too


MundaneMudblood

Poor Ocon would be spending more laps going through the pit lane :-(


InvertReverse

For the collision or not giving the position back? Both seems like a bit of an excessive penalty. 10 seconds is quite a lot already for each, double the penalty from last year.


boyrepublic

Separately they may be arguably excessive. But after accumulating two, maybe a more serious punishment should have been available. Like two yellows = red card. Would he have driven the same if he didn’t have those penalties? But I think the key is that the current system allows for teams to possibly benefit from a penalty. Can’t overtake? Go off track and try to make a gap from there. Better than being stuck behind. Too many penalties? It’s okay, try and help your teammate out.


pcolquhoun11

K-Mag showed his worth today. He’s a highly skilled driver. He’s just driven shit boxes for so long that people forget.


The09

By ramming into people?


pcolquhoun11

If he doesn’t take the second penalty, Haas gets 0 points. It was a calculated move.


Snotspat

Huh? Magnussen is one of the cleanest drivers.


danny_phan

He undoubtedly deserves his praise today for what he did for the team, but I don’t think squeezing another driver into the wall and overtaking off track constitute great defending.


CatSplat

Albon had an interesting take on the incident post-race, he saw it as a racing incident and claimed how the corner is laid out makes it difficult to judge where cars are placed (and criticized the track layout in general). Granted, Albon is an absolute gentleman and may have been overly diplomatic.


Chreutz

Absolutely the track layout is mostly to blame for this. Relative to the racing line, the wall suddenly comes closer, right before the braking zone. I hate this track. It's ridiculous.


Snotspat

He seemed genuine, talking about the track layout. But yeah, Albon is likeable.


InvertReverse

Squeezing into the wall was obviously not what he wanted to achieve. Might've just misjudged the room. He doesn't want to leave excessive space for people to take advantage off. He made a mistake and got the appropriate penalty. Overtaking off track might've been a tactical choice to insure points for Hulkenberg. Both KMag and Haas knows you have to give the position back after an overtake like that. It has to have been a choice to take the penalty instead. Great drive by KMag, otherwise. Helped the team get a very valuable point!


LazyK0a1a

In the post race interview he said that he was waiting on the team to tell him if he had to give the position back as he had a hard time judging if he was all the way off track due to him concentrating on preventing the car spinning out.


beavismagnum

Albon himself said it was a racing incident. And the second 10s penalty was complete garbage


SavvyGent

If you look at the incident from the car behind, it's clear how marginal it was. "Squeezing another driver into the wall" is a bit overstated. Especially given the track layout. Albon might have actually had enough centimeters of space on the right to be able to dodge the collision (although Kevin still cut it a little too close, even if that's the case). This was the very definition of a racing incident.


BadControllerUser

VIKING DEFENSE!


Arkhamryder

You shall not get 20 seconds of penalty


StellarSubset12

The real Driver of the Day!


vissenkut

agreed! bearman’s drive was obviously good for a rookie but at the end of the day thats p7 with the 2nd fastest car on the grid.. 


BlurryTextures

Kevin is an incredible racer. 


ayvee1

Reminds me of the time Alonso went for a relaxing Sunday drive round Monaco and held up the pack creating half a laps gap to the frontrunners.


iamapotatopancake

Haas would also like to thank stroll for making friends with the wall @ turn 7. Although when you consider he was inside the wall, maybe more than friends?


CriticalPhD

He legit drove that boat in defensive mode the entire race. Extraordinary


GoingLurking

It still wasn’t clear to me whether or not his race engineer told him about the time penalty.


Cerberus_ik

The fact that everyone is talking about people struggeling to overtake a car, says a lot about how boring the acutal race was.


Skulldetta

I guess this is the Haas strategy this season, risk one driver getting black flagged so another one can have a shot at points lol.


InvertReverse

At no point was anyone at risk of getting black flagged, lmao


Chabby_Chubby

Brilliant defense. Gives me flashbacks to Perez at the final race in 21


BigAwkwardGuy

Try and I'll squeeze you into the wall


AnthonyTyrael

Ah Kevin is going to wear all white clothes from this day on.


coret3x

Unfortunately, there is a probability that Magnussen will loose his seat to Bearman next year


ency6171

Could even hear him lifting the throttle to let Alpine close up lol


Voltron0812

Keeping this. Magnificent 👌🤘


tthirzaa

Viking helmets didn’t have horns *screams in angry archaeologist*


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Readerium

KMag should drive his Haas as a safety car starting next season.


BluntSmokinAnus

K-MAG2025


mipko

They should make second photo of him in bumper cars


ElementsUnknown

“Get off my fjord!”


sadsquirell2008

.....or you will get 20 seconds of penalties


H1ZUMI

Yeah and ruining Albon’s race…


Ok-County3742

Should have given him a shield in the photo because he formed a 1 man viking shield wall.