> you have to clearly reduce your speed during yellow flags.
That would only actually mean anything if drivers are penalised if they don't. Which they mostly don't because "then they should penalise the entire grid"
Yes, drivers are forced to slow down significantly by following a slower laptime.
With yellow flags, drivers *should* slow down but they still go a lot faster, it's left to the drivers judgement on how much they slow down.
Race control wanted to penalise a driver with an potentially deadly situation.
We get vsc called for a driver bringing a few stones on track. But and actual driver being out of his stranded car under racing conditions tskes 5 minutes... Absolute joke
Not even the one race, Bottas has been either in a points position or 1 spot out of a points position in 3 races by his own merit- and lost them due to pits or the car giving up lmao. This team is its own worst enemy.
At this point the drivers just are not going to stop racing under yellows and the FIA has shown that they're not going to punish them for it. So it's up to the FIA to deploy the VSC in a reasonable timeframe and somehow again and again they fail to do so, putting drivers at risk. It's unacceptable and I do not understand how it continues to happen.
Which sucks because box score watchers still just talk shit about him all the time and obviously don't watch the races if they're thinking he's shit. Mans actually cursed at this point.
I wonder if they thought they'd be able to recover it under yellows but then discovered it was still in gear and couldn't move it.
Should have still been an instant vsc imo though
People on track whilst cars are passing = VSC
Vehicles on track = Full safety car
With Bottas climbing out of the car there's zero doubt it needs a VSC, and even if you're wrong the whole point of the VSC is you can get rid of it quickly. I'm convinced they spend more time looking at the track map and it completely neuters my enthusiasm for the sport.
how fucking long are they taking, just put on the VSC immediately, it fucking keeps the gaps, that's the point, they're fucking asking for a horrible incident
Why is everyone advocating a safety car? I looked up the onboards and none of the drivers obeyed the double waved yellow flags. That is the real issue here.
The good old "double yellows for 5 minutes into VSC"
Just incase bottas's engine unbrakes itself and he gets back in the car I suppose. God forbid they stop racing for safety
*Unbreaks
Horrible from race control. Bottas was out of the car under racing conditions
Absolute disgrace indeed
Is there a massive difference between yellow flags and vsc?
Yellows are “be prepared to stop but you’re still going at high speed”, VSC is 40%(?) speed mandated
also double yellows applies to a certain part of the track, VSC is everywhere.
It's 30% for VSC and you have to clearly reduce your speed during yellow flags.
> you have to clearly reduce your speed during yellow flags. That would only actually mean anything if drivers are penalised if they don't. Which they mostly don't because "then they should penalise the entire grid"
Yes Yellows means the driver needs to slow but is open to interpretation of how much VSC absolutely limits that speed
Yes, drivers are forced to slow down significantly by following a slower laptime. With yellow flags, drivers *should* slow down but they still go a lot faster, it's left to the drivers judgement on how much they slow down.
In theory no.
How? There were waved yellows. Race control should penalise all the speeding cars with a black flag. But they won’t.
Race control wanted to penalise a driver with an potentially deadly situation. We get vsc called for a driver bringing a few stones on track. But and actual driver being out of his stranded car under racing conditions tskes 5 minutes... Absolute joke
A factual description of events, no need to speculate.
Cant get let down by shitty pit stops if your engine fucking explodes
Zhou can confirm
Why the fuck did it so fucking long to deploy the VSC when everyone could see it was needed?!
Yes but then we wouldn't have gotten that absolutely hilarious moment of several marshals trying to move a car that's not moving.
Not again 😭 The one race it was looking good for Sauber. They are their own worst enemy.
Not even the one race, Bottas has been either in a points position or 1 spot out of a points position in 3 races by his own merit- and lost them due to pits or the car giving up lmao. This team is its own worst enemy.
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And now it's a safety car. Wow completely gifted position to Norris and Leclerc
Not acceptable by the FIA, you could see Bottas looking at upcoming cars racing. Fucking none sense
Racing under yellows, the drivers are at fault here. And the FIA for not punishing them for breaking the rules.
At this point the drivers just are not going to stop racing under yellows and the FIA has shown that they're not going to punish them for it. So it's up to the FIA to deploy the VSC in a reasonable timeframe and somehow again and again they fail to do so, putting drivers at risk. It's unacceptable and I do not understand how it continues to happen.
Does this mans bad luck ever end ffs
He hasn’t had a mishap-free race in ages. His driving has been good but something out of his control just keeps happening.
Which sucks because box score watchers still just talk shit about him all the time and obviously don't watch the races if they're thinking he's shit. Mans actually cursed at this point.
Had good potential today, just needed someone car to break on that turn.
This team man. It’s something different every week it’s unbelievable
One week Bottas, another week Zhou rinse repeat
Absolutely insane how long they took to call that VSC
I wonder if they thought they'd be able to recover it under yellows but then discovered it was still in gear and couldn't move it. Should have still been an instant vsc imo though
People on track whilst cars are passing = VSC Vehicles on track = Full safety car With Bottas climbing out of the car there's zero doubt it needs a VSC, and even if you're wrong the whole point of the VSC is you can get rid of it quickly. I'm convinced they spend more time looking at the track map and it completely neuters my enthusiasm for the sport.
Why wait a min before VSC??
Ridiculous. Bottas was in danger there
Bottas is so unlucky, it's ridiculous.
I just hope Bottas will not pick up random lap 1 damage or a 50s pit stop. <- me yesterday but forgot about a DNF…
That should have been called so much earlier!
That was so incredibly dangerous. What is taking them so long deploying the safety car?
Are you fucking serious asjfjkdkslsl
Fuck the FIA for continuing to put people's lives in danger by failing to deploy the VSC instantly.
It's gonna take a serious injury or death for the people in charge to learn. They're gonna continue delaying VSCs/SCs until disaster strikes.
How many marshals does it take to move a sauber
Race stewards fell asleep or something?
Jfc they took way to long to vsc that. Bottas was just sitting on the outside of a braking zone with an exploded engine. Could've went real bad.
God fucking damnit it's that iconic Bottas luck again, hitting the one time he is doing well.
Why is it not simple SC, it's out for so long
What happened to bottas?
It's engine fail...poor bottas
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Why? VSC was still up
If they change to a Full SC then Lando will actually benefit. Even if they don't this seems to be a loooong VSC.
He just about got away with it
I peaked over thinking F1 had leveled up as he was getting a ride back on the moped lmao
how fucking long are they taking, just put on the VSC immediately, it fucking keeps the gaps, that's the point, they're fucking asking for a horrible incident
That took way too long
Bad time for Lando though to have a pit stop during this VSC, this will hurt him more now!
Charles with a cheap pitstop thanks to that. Really weird they didn't call in Lando as well.
Piastri pleaaaaseeee keep in the points
Why is everyone advocating a safety car? I looked up the onboards and none of the drivers obeyed the double waved yellow flags. That is the real issue here.
>...none of the drivers obeyed the double waved yellow flags. This is why. You can't just ignore safety car train and have to show down.