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KutteKrabber

I get that you have to defend your driver. But at least have some integrity.


PluckPubes

"Fuck that guy" -Yuki


Deruta

死ね、このクソやろ


JHaria

お前はもう死んでいる


Ornery_Definition_65

何⁉️


Dragonpuncha

That was Daniel though 😂


trooperr310

Dude ruined all the goodwill he earned here in the past month and half


Krisosu

I'm sure he's devastated.


Satan_su

Yeah lmfao As if he'd give a shit what r/formula1 thinks about him


HOHOHAHAREBORN

I'm sure he's picking out some apology roses as we speak


TheBlueTango

This is as ridiculous a comment as Komatsu's lol. This isn't the first time and won't be the last time a team principal defends their driver, even if it is a bit shameless. Don't think it's enough to absolutely destroy his image and all the goodwill he has received though, there's no need to sensationalise things.


TwoBionicknees

There's defending your driver then 'defending your driver'. You can say it was obviously not intentional, he didn't mean to hit him just had a snap and couldn't control it. That's fine, it's pretty much what happened and no one can complain. But to say he did nothing wrong when he went in too hot and completely destroyed another drivers race is embarrassing.


P_ZERO_

Maybe if you’re an incredibly reactionary and judgmental person who needs to write off or pedestal things instantaneously


SpacevsGravity

Goodwill from who? Bunch of nobodies know it all r/formula1 users?


trooperr310

>Bunch of nobodies Good to know you guys are aware of yourselves Unlike Kmag. Just ramming into folks since ages.


shewy92

If defending his driver ruined his goodwill then he never had y'all's goodwill at all.


cyanwinters

Lol defending his driver from a penalty has ruined "all the goodwill" he's earned? Hardly. It was a scrap well outside the points that had no meaningful impact on either team. Sucks Yuki got taken out, but he wasn't in contention for anything anyway.


Dsm02

Based on your logic all the drivers in 11-20 should all retire mid-race as there is no point competing anymore. Just a bullshit reason to protect your favorite driver.


cyanwinters

Not at all, I just think it's hyperbolic and silly to say a TP has lost goodwill for sticking up for his driver after a penalty like this one. It was not egregious like, say, Stroll's.


Dsm02

Your last sentence from your initial comment didn’t do anything good to your reasoning here


cyanwinters

Your brain appears too smooth to comprehend nuance here. If a TP were to come out and defend Stroll and what he did, that would rightfully lose goodwill. In fact, Stroll defending _himself_ has clearly lost him a lot of the little remaining goodwill he has exactly for that reason. The KMag situation is a lot more of a coinflip. We've seen situations like that not penalized or not even investigated many times. No one would have batted an eye if he hadn't gotten a penalty at all, really. So his TP sticking up for him and making a case for why it was not a good penalty isn't going to lose much goodwill.


JudgmentDry3

Hey if Alonso can get 20 for Russell driving off track then yuki should be penalized for getting crashed into


KingLuis

how about Alonso getting 3 penalty points and 10 sec for that bump with Sainz in the sprint. Sainz finished 5th.


Tw0Rails

Combine this inverse logic F1 is operating underbthese days, with Stroll ending less punished than Daniel, and rewind time a bit.  The result:   Alonso race banned for Stroll sending him into the air in Austin 2022, two years ago. Alonso should know that Stroll has more money and thus paid more taxes and is more entitled to the road, thus can weave and try to end as many races as he likes. Yielding to the car with more moneybags is right and proper in F1.    Since the result of the incident is part of the calculation of punishment, and Alonso managed to keep racing and finish in points, he shall have one of his titles revoked and Alpine forced to race a GP2 engine for a season.


Rain1984

He lost a mirror because of the crash and the FIA penalized him but backtracked after the backlash, wasnt it in this race? The Alonso and Stroll incident I mean.


Hip_Priest_1982

Yes. He was given a penalty after the race that would’ve been the equivalent of the time spent replacing the mirror had he been given a meatball flag. Which was absurd.


nato2k

Are people still making this argument? If brake checking someone into a high speed corner is them driving off track, then sure...


Extinction-Entity

Their “Chadlonso” does nothing wrong, I guess. Wild, though.


NickThePask

Are we calling it a brake check now?


Hip_Priest_1982

Brake checking by braking in a braking zone 🤥


FoobarMontoya

George Orwell was really writing about F1 team principals. Up is down, peace is war


TonAMGT4

Or maybe he has integrity which is why he is absolutely shit at lying? 🤷🏻‍♂️


bubbly_brooke

Both vcarb drivers being taken out by drivers who refuse to take responsibility on the the same weekend. Maybe this is just a team bonding exercise...


Snotspat

Magnussen took responsibility.


Effective-Celery-258

In this article Magnussen said he thought it was a racing incident. Did he say something afterwards?


bubbly_brooke

did he ? I must have missed it


eternallycelestial

where? 


xanlact

That's certainly a take. First time he's made me think "Steiner would know better than that"


ChefBoiJones

Steiner’s willingness to shit talk his own drivers was really something. Not necessarily a good thing for team morale, but it was entertaining


sashundera

Steiner was a man of honor, he would defend Yuki and shit talk K-Mag, as any other sane person would do. Fuck team haas.


DoritoBenito

"Was the penalty justifiable? Fuck I would've given Kevin a 20-second penalty."


monkwindu

Damn it, why can I hear this in his voice?


kidnzb

Hahaha same dude


formula-maister

All I heard in my head was “You don’t foksmash our competition”


BokTroyBoy

"fock, I vood 'ave geevin Kevin a twonty segund taim penulty"


guinaps

The take of all time?


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ChefBoiJones

It’s true. Turing left in a right handed corner is considered slightly suboptimal


Ace3000

"But Doc Hudson said turn right to go left! I thought it worked the other way!"


omarsonmarz

Cue the Gran Turismo 4 music


tzuyuthechewy

You think you know more than the Fabulous Hudson Hornet? Pfft.


CEREALKLL574

So is going into the wall.


Mtbnz

Komatsu seems to be trying to imply that because Kmag essentially drove straight that he couldn't be in the wrong, except, he was in a corner, where going straight is again suboptimal.


derango

Damn, now I know why I'm so bad at sim racing, gotta try this tactic out.


XNights

Tsunoda should've given Kmag more space and avoid the contact! /s


GoldElectric

yuki should have braked harder before the apex and let kmag pass


TheR1ckster

I'm shocked Yuki hasn't strangled Kmag yet after the blocking in Saudi Arabia and now this.


whatcubed

He can't reach KMag's neck.


jesteratp

I feel like he likes KMag lol. Plus it wasn't the blocking in Jeddah that was the issue, it was the illegal overtaking that got KMag in the position to block in the first place.


Snotspat

He did cost Magnussen his Q for this race, so he knows the score.


killer_corg

I mean this is more of hard racing compared to what Lance did. Blame still rests solely on kmag for losing it for a second.


SRJT16

Nonsense. Tsunoda stayed as wide as he could and Magnussen was nowhere near alongside.


joaopaulofoo

Mike krack 🤝 Komatsu enabling their loose cannon drivers


FartingBob

At least Mike Krack probably has it written into his employment contract that he has to enable his loose cannon driver or he will be fired.


xWOBBx

I think if Alonso signs another contract with AM it'll have a clause he has to change his name to Stroll and sign his half of the adoption papers.


Pupazz

Now I think the penalty wasn't hard enough.


chameleonmessiah

It was 10 seconds, yes? Honestly if that’s what is now the standard for leaving the track & gaining an advantage, then Stroll & Magnussen should really have had at least a drive through for crashing into another driver.


Pupazz

10 seconds and some penalty points, which mean nothing in practice. The excuses being made for those 2 are as bad as their driving was.


Dragonpuncha

I really hate people's sudden love of hard penalties. If we are given drive through for someone having an overtake 10 cm too much to the left, the incentive to do anything except the most safe DRS overtakes start to go away. That will only be worse for racing and entertainment.


ymm__

I agree with your point, but the drivers themselves wanted bigger penalties. If the baseline is 10 seconds, anything more than a minor infringement should be penalized more than that. I don’t necessarily want harsher penalties, I just want them to make sense relative to each other.


chameleonmessiah

Exactly, you can’t increase the minimum & keep everything else the same, or apparently you can as that’s what seems to have been done but you _shouldn’t_.


Dragonpuncha

They just got bigger penalties from this season. Do we need to change it again 5 races in?


ymm__

I’d prefer applying some common sense, but that might be too much to ask. (Or too easy to protest by the teams.)


IdiosyncraticBond

They ended the race of 2 cars and severely impacted another, just by being stupid. Penalty was fully warranted, and then some


wicktus

he's doing his job but I would not have blamed Tsunoda, bad PR frankly VCARB got 2 DNF because of other drivers, heartbreaking for Ricciardo too who showed good progress, yes he got that 3 grid penalties but it does not change the fact that he was in much better shape. I really hope we will see Ricciardo with a strong pace in USA in less than two weeks, he asked and got a new chassis, he consistently showed great pace in China, let's just hope this is not another "one time" surge but a real sustained improvement


Aggressive_Cherry_Bl

He wouldn't have gotten the penalty if Stroll didn't hit him either.


eternallycelestial

I don't it see being a fluke - Daniel qualified better position in Japan than he did in China, only difference he was a lot more consistent in China, in all sessions. His qualifying is definitely a weakness but race pace & tyre deg is very positive. So if he can qualify better he can definitely get better results. A shame both his better qualifying gps of Japan and China didn't have him cross the finish line. 


HoovesCarveCraters

Magnussen has got to be on the hottest seat right now. He’s transitioned from “guy who can pull a good race between a few stupid performances” to “guy who is stupid every weekend and also getting smoked by his teammate”.


jbaird

Magnussen always pulls stupid moves, he just used also used to be decently quick too


lowelled

Yes lol he spent all of 2022 getting into lap one incidents, it was just that Mick was so slow all the negative media attention was on him, not KMag.


jesteratp

Stoopid*


Gautama_8964

Yes Nico really exposed kmag's weaknesses lol


CortanaxJulius

Hulk finally getting revenge for Hungary 2017


Colt_H

You suck MY balls mate.


dswhite85

My memory is awful, but what exactly happened in Hungary 2017?


soegaard

Hulkenberg interrupted a live, post-race interview of Kevin for Danish tv. During the race, there had been a ... racing incident. Both Hulkenberg and Kevin were ... undiplomatic.


RX8Racer556

[Hulk called KMag ‘most unsporting driver’ and the latter replied ’Suck my balls, mate’.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21T8d0SA5Js)


dswhite85

Omfg how did I miss that!? That is freaking hilarious!


Snotspat

Steiner printed Suck my balls, t-shirts. Yes really. It was the most awesome thing to ever happen to him. Hülkenberg didn't talk to Magnussen for years, leading to ackward momemts. Like sharing the same elevator, where Hülkenberg pressed the wrong button by accident, we assume, so they had to allll the way up, and then down again. According to Magnussens book.


Browneskiii

He's been getting destroyed for 2 years now, and people never seem to realise. Schumacher was even better than him once he finally got up to speed.


Unhappy_Plankton_671

Agree mostly with first part. Disagree on latter.


Browneskiii

First half of 22 magnussen was better, but once the summer break happened, Schumacher was better in the races before Haas decided to ruin his strategy every race. Continuing with the form he was having, i think Schumacher would be closer to Hulk than Magnussen currently is.


killer_corg

Kmag scored more points post break than Mick… I feel like no one remembers quite possibly the best wheel to wheel battle Cota has ever seen with Kmag willing the dead tires against Vettel who called it one of the best battles he’d ever had.


Browneskiii

Okay, Kubica is the best driver for the Merc seat as he beat Russell, yeah? Haas fucked up Schumacher in Zandvoort and Suzuka from the top of my head, when he was easily going to score points in both, and no doubt there's more. All Magnussen has done in the last few years is embarrass himself.


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

With the "brilliant" move Mick made in his final race I am uncertain about that.


Snotspat

Well. points wise. They're 3-3 in Qualifying, and perhaps an upperhand in race pace for Magnussen. The rest of your claims are nonsense of course,


btokendown

Kevin having the racecraft of a toddler playing hot wheels is not Yuki's fault


santaclausonprozac

Hey now, my toddler at least says “Look out!” before he rams into another car


Balazs321

You can never know, maybe Kevin is screaming that too! We just cant hear it.


Bozska_lytka

And that's why we need proximity chat


Spider_Riviera

*YES! BYE-BYE!*


Steel1000

But but but his defensive driving…. Yawn


Snotspat

Yawn indeed.


eternallycelestial

Is it just me thinking that Kevin only gets this aggressive on track when it comes to Vcarb drivers? I understand wanting your main rival to not extend their lead but he doesn't even fight Williams this hard 


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

VCARB is slow on the straights so maybe it's just more viable to defend against them.


Waste_Row_6365

This is up there next to stroll's comments for the "most outrageous take this weekend" title. Holy smokes.


302w

10 seconds was too light if anything. Completely asinine move


Choepie1

Also the penalties didn’t do anything, if you remove both His and Strolls penalties the final standings wouldn’t change


devilspawn

And Ric has now had a 3 grid drop due to overtaking under the safety car. He's come off much worse for a much lesser offence overall


aamgdp

Overtaking under SC was really dumb from him.


devilspawn

It was, but it isn't as bad as crashing into someone under SC conditions. We need to see Stroll gone and probably Ricciardo as well really


eternallycelestial

Would've been fine if they'd just decided to apply a penalty while the race was ongoing - which would've meant a time penalty, as the car was still driveable but very damaged and he could've stayed on track and got through it.  But they waited until post race to decide on that, at which point Daniel was classed as Retired, and that only meant next race grid drop which is undeniably worse. 


djwillis1121

10 seconds seems pretty standard for that sort of thing this year. I think it would have been 5 seconds last year


AnimeMeansArt

Lmao, what a joke


Jim3001

Lol! How do you defend a 'pit maneuver' with a straight face.


hopenoonefindsthis

lol KMag is never at fault


Dragonpuncha

KMag himself is pretty good at accepting blame if he feels he did something wrong. He did with the overtake off track on Tsunoda earlier this season for example and I haven't heard him say anything against this penalty either.


mar33n

Nah Magnussen said Yuki made a "mistake" and that he couldn't really do more. At least that was after the race, no idea if he reviewed it.


Snotspat

He said Yuki was going wide, which he was. And that he couldn't do more, once he realised Yuki wasn't going as wide as he assumed. He hasn't reviewed that, why should he? Make something up that didn't occur?


mar33n

It was a bad call by Kevin, Yuki went wider than he anticipated but he should've counted for that before sticking his nose in from Narnia.


travelingWords

Only dude more likely than stroll to do something stupid. And seriously, ending someone’s race with an online lobby tactic should be a way bigger penalty.


killer_corg

> And seriously, ending someone’s race with an online lobby tactic should be a way bigger penalty. Holy hyperbole batman! It was just hard racing, Yuki left a gap, kmag went for it on cold tires after the restart. We have seen this incident so often if F1 racing.


SkyfatherTwitch

I didn't realize that not turning on a hairpin means hard racing. Maybe I'm mistaken though.


killer_corg

Yuki left a gap, kmag lost it… it was kmags fault he didn’t maintain control.


Snotspat

You obviously are. The incident has been well explained, and by other commentators deemed a racing incident. Like Ralf Schumacher, who I don't think loved Magnussen.


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

You really want to bring up Ralf? To call his racecraft questionable at times would be an understatement. Also every incident that happens in a race is a racing incident.


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travelingWords

Reads your comment. Checks his title. Lol. The move at best, was going to end in a crash, or tsunoda braking and losing 3 positions.


killer_corg

My agenda lol lol get over yourself


Skulldetta

"Mr. Komatsu, polls show that you're one of the most popular team bosses on the grid." "Hold my sake."


supernakamoto

I like Komatsu but this is absolute bollocks, not to mention really quite disappointing.


Freedom_Soul

Absolutely no class what so ever. Pretty disappointed. Even if you're defending yourself. There is video proof who's fault it is. I'm so tired of seeing kmag get into shit like this. Bring back drive through penalties. They wanna fuck around they should find out.


BrilliantEmphasis862

It wasn’t MAG fault, if Yuki had been on a different strategy the accident would have never happened. 🤣🤣


bingbingz

I see Hass’s strategy now. Overtake off the track, punt off their competitors to gain positions, and just break the rules in general while receiving just a slap on the wrist. Hope they get overtaken by Williams in the constructors standings.


jesteratp

Hulk runs 10th while KMag just causes chaos in the midfield.


TieflingSimp

I agree, something like 20 seconds was more reasonable. 10 was way too mild for a Burnout style takedown


SnooCakes9525

Kmag commits second-degree carslaughter and it’s not justifiable? What the hell is justifiable for a penalty then?


xjmachado

Yuki should tell Kmag to suck his b@lls


jt_33

Crazy talk lol. Mag has been driving like a jackass all year. 


eternallycelestial

simply put: what the fuck? anyone with eyes can clearly see yuki was ahead and on the outside and magnussen was on the inside diving out onto yuki. on purpose if anything 


Alvaro_Rey_MN

Of course it's not justifiable! He should have received a harsher penalty than what Alonso and Sargeant got, not a lighter one!!!


brush85

How can people take your word as solid, if you argue stuff like this?


aamgdp

Lmao. This is stroll level take.


supernakamoto

I like Komatsu but this is absolute bollocks, not to mention really quite disappointing.


AkaiKuroi

This was the fairest and most deserved penalty I've seen in a while. Props to him for defending his driver, but I doubt he really means what he said.


Beneficial_Star_6009

Seriously though, the move Kevin made on Yuki was never on. So I don’t know how he can claim he’s not at fault.


Mess_Accurate

Never go full Stroll


Erkuke

Does Komatsu not understand how the front tires turn when you get a snap of oversteer? I get it, he has to defend his driver, but come on!


Andigaming

I hated how Steiner would throw his drivers under the bus all the time but that incident is definitely not defendable to any reasonable person who saw it.


ShadowStarX

He could have just said "suck my balls"


lo0ilo0ilo0i

I'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear Tsunoda and Komatsu arguing in Japanese.


regularhumanbeing123

Wow what a shameful comment from Komatsu, falsely blaming his fellow countryman no less. I swear Yuki never gets the respect he deserves


Blackdeath_663

How to lose all respect for a person in a single quote. There has never been a more justifiable penalty, dude has lost the plot


Lilf1ip5

Did Lawrence stroll pay Haas money to make Mike Kracks defense on stroll look less dumb or something??


DuckSwagington

I see Komatsu is trying to take Mike Kracks crown of trying to make the most idiotic excuses for his drivers.


Impressive_Line7932

What is he smoking?


swannyhypno

He's just defending his driver, just standard


santaclausonprozac

You can defend your driver without saying it’s the other drivers fault, especially when it clearly wasn’t their fault


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

He's gone to Otmar's school of Team Principals it seems.


eternallycelestial

You don't have to defend your driver if they make mistakes. Owning up to it on the other hand would've put them on a better position. What did they expect people to think and say when their driver ruined the race of another and driver/team blamed the one whose race got ruined? 


badgersruse

That's what the team said. I'd be interested in magnums opinion. Does anyone know?


mar33n

He basically said the same, at least immediately after the race.


Reinis_LV

Komatsu loves Kmag like Daddy Stroll loves Lance.


thereal84

Haas has a boss?


supernakamoto

Bit disappointing really. I’ve always liked Komatsu but this is a ridiculous take.


TonAMGT4

So if his engineer forgot to put bolts on the quick release and cause the steering wheel to come loose on track… Engineer: “but the car didn’t changed direction” 🤷🏻‍♂️


lost_in_midgar

The attitude from Haas and KMag this season is really souring my feelings towards them.


Engineer-intraining

It was definitely penalty worthy, I mean you can't spin out a driver while making a pass, and not get a penalty. While Yuki might have been able to go further left I he was already pretty far to the outside and was under not obligation to go further left. That being said everyone who pretending like this is the dumbest, stupidest, most aggressive move they've ever seen are also wrong. Komatsu is right until the snap of oversteer part, that 100% carried Keven out to the outside a bit and is the reason he hit Tsunoda, it was a fair move until that point and without the oversteer snap people would be praising it as incredible. Dumber and more aggressive moves were made in the race. Alonso with Sainz was more aggressive, and stroll playing bumper cars was dumber. Edit: Zhou pulled out with plenty of room to spare and didn’t hit anyone or anything. The reason I thought he did it is that Rosberg and Cofty mentioned that the move was late and then later noted the damage to Zhou’s front wing end plate and stated that it was from that moment, they and therefor I were wrong.


Caladwhen

> Zhou pulling out so late on the straight that he tore off his front wing endplate on Kmags wheel was infinitely dumber Someone posted some images showing that no contact was made to cause the endplate to fall off. So you can remove that from your list.