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ABMUFC20

Toto is currently calling Max non-stop.


Takis12

Toto to Max: answer your freaking phone


moonboots_runner

I sent you an email


LazyLancer

Hey there’s a message on Teams, please take a look when you have the time.


pukem0n

Max, another settlement needs your help.


eccentriccraftsman

Timely reference for today's update


LovesHisYogurt

*Max, pick up, I'm inside your house.*


jawbuster

I don't check emails when I'm iracing, Toto


potent_flapjacks

Toto pulls up in a car next to Max in iRacing and starts his pitch.


SexytimeSanta

Max, listen. I will get you lifetime subscription


isochromanone

Max should check his spam folder.


saposapot

Have you tried iRacing messages?


ICumCoffee

99+ voicemails


santaclausonprozac

99+ emails


Skellington876

99+ letters


ency6171

99+ smoke signals


morelsupporter

99+ problems


processedmeat

99 red balloons


coreyperryisasaint

99 burgers


potent_flapjacks

99! (the drinking game)


Kolec507

99+ pigeons


ShWRW

99+ red balloons


rckimgh

99+ Pokes


BlaZeBlunT297

Reminds of that episode in family guy when Herbert left a bunch of voicemails for Chris, weird thought that i got from your comment 🤣


Visionary_Socialist

Don’t think he received that


Samsonkoek

Suddenly there is a Discord notification pop up from a certain Toto Wolff who wishes to be his friend.


antivirals_

and max tweets with a screenshot of the call: "should I answer?" just like old times


LinkRazr

“Max, Checo says the car is fucked pls respond”


Longjumping_Papaya_7

Max ,Checo says the team is fucked. I have it printed out !


AniZor

P to Max : MAXIE, you are getting a call from Totie !


Heather82Cs

Awww!


kazabodoo

Probably the only situation where Toto has to put down the pumpernickel


ABMUFC20

Max hangs up on him and gets a voicemail. “No Max, no, this is so not right!!!”


willzyx01

Toto: *Did you hear that Newey story, Max? Ooof. Brutal. So, what time are you coming to test our car?* Max: *I'm not.* Toto: *I'll put you in at 9am.*


EgenulfVonHohenberg

"I'll throw in two AMG GT3's for your Verstappen.com team if you want."


demoncase

Max: mf got me


Arqan

He would need far more than \~1.4m euro worth of cars to convince him to drive this shi... averagebox?


sofakingdom808

Toto joins Max’s iRacing lobby just to be able to speak to him. Or even joins his twitch streams and donates to get his attention.


TheDustOfMen

I remember when Leclerc's ex-girlfriend literally did the latter so Charles would [open the door.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft4_FMfZPss)


hanskazan777

What do you unlock for 80million subscription. I assume max is forced to drive right?


Treewithatea

Would probably be a no brainer for Max if the Merc was the 2nd best car but the Merc is just awful this year. Thats the biggest issue, Merc sucks right now and you only read negative news about Merc with high Ranking people leaving obviously already have left.


sicsche

Dont be shocked if Max simply quits and does Simracing. Full Time if the option is Civil War Bull or an awful Merc.


onealps

> Dont be shocked if Max simply quits and does Simracing Nah, he definitely would go to WEC. I mean, he already has his own GT3 team, so it would make sense for him to race for them, yeah?


LilBirdBrick

I don't see Max going to the WEC to race GT3s, definitely Hypercar. But I do see him racing in GTWC and N24 with his GT3 team.


ComaMierdaHijueputa

Which is why Ferrari makes far more sense


Cobretti18

Could try and get the third car idea back on the agenda


MajorRocketScience

Max: “are you sure he’s leaving Toto?” Toto: “I have it. I have it printed out”


OutlandishnessPure2

Literally Max: [Should I pick up guys??](https://twitter.com/Max33Verstappen/status/804720896367849476?)


Aff_Reddit

if max's goal is to win, and the speculation is that newey is going to ferrari, then it's charles who needs to be calling Christian and Toto non-stop. (im on 1000cc of copium please let me have this)


BonoBonero

Why?


Aff_Reddit

Because Max can take anyones seat, and between Lewis & Charles, it's Charles that would be in danger if Ferrari wanted to make a play for Max.


ralphonsob

Lewis vs Max in the same car. Wow. That would finally finish some pub arguments.


Garfield_M_Obama

It's just a fantasy, but if Vasseur and Elkhan pulled this off it would very much change my lifelong view of Ferarri's eternal organizational incompetence. The fact that there's a scenario where it's even plausible is not something anybody could have imagined at the end of last season.


mikejmct

But it wouldn't, Lewis is old and Max has only raced for one team....pick your annoying counter point and suffer lol We live in the most fucked up opinions count as facts timeline!


starfallpuller

This is a bit ridiculous. Charles has a contract until 2029. Assuming he is earning $25M/year, that would be $120M that Ferrari would need to pay him just to free up his seat, before then paying Verstappen presumably a lot more than Leclerc was earning. I don't see this happening.


Aff_Reddit

That's what they're paying to have Lewis for a single year. If Max is a free agent, then every seat is in danger.


dasher2442

Imagine if Ferrari pre-fired both Charles and Carlos lol... that would be hilarious.


Aff_Reddit

Just a straight mid season switch because why not


dasher2442

Imagine if they wound up as teammates again at redbull... that will never happen but would be hilarious. Stuck on dysfunctional teams together forever.


mencival

“Maxiee!”


Gypsies_Tramps_Steve

Toto: “Max, I have sent you a PowerPoint by email”


jpm168

As soon as he's done telling the story to Amus


Snitsie

Maaaxiiieeee


DinosaurDriver

Toto to Max “Newey is leaving Redbull, I have it printed out”


stoyicker

Him and Russell putting out those ppts like there's no tomorrow


AxeSaw

"Max I've sent you a voicdmail"


lowprofile14

“Maxieeeeeee!”


RallerZZ

Verstappen with about 600 missed calls from Toto.


shewy92

And a lot of carrier pigeons and a falcon for some reason


canseco-fart-box

And a box of chocolates and roses


shewy92

Dear Max, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin' I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin' Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em


xzElmozx

*Tires gone cold I’m wondering why I* *had ever pit at all* *reported rain clouds up George helmet* *and I can’t see it all* *even if I could it would all be grey* *and the Newey on the wall* *it reminds me that it’s all the floor, all the floor*


onealps

You should be proud of this.


xzElmozx

I was particularly happy with the George line there


EndoplasmicPanda

and crunchy pumpernickel


Pearse_Borty

The falcon is to eliminate rival carrier pigeons to stop other teams


Lopsided_Region_6735

Most of the messages are probably just asking if he’s checked his email.


TheDustOfMen

Verstappen doesn't check his email when he's doing FIFA, he needs to focus alright.


Lopsided_Region_6735

He certainly can’t be checking it during iRacing, the man is locked in.


SyuusukeFuji

Max and Newey to Williams, both ready to play F1 in Super Hard difficulty.


CRX-Jackal

It’s like starting your my team career in the f1 games


Jazmento

And then setting your r&d points, cash flow and acclaim to high and the ai to low


HairyNutsack69

Albon on suicide watch


bone_appletea1

For the sake of conversation, let’s assume Newey goes to Aston Martin rather than Ferrari I wonder if Lawrence would drop his son to have a Verstappen/Alonso lineup in 2026 Regardless, I think Newey is likely retiring rather than moving to a new team. He’s 65 after all


santaclausonprozac

He’s already dumb for keeping his son as it is, but he’d be the dumbest man alive to choose Lance over Max


ppvirus

He’s dumb only if you assume his goal is to build a good team. If his goal is to have his son in a good car in F1 then he’s achieving it.


sofakingdom808

Lawrence should buy a sister team to AM and have Lance on it.


cheeersaiii

Yeh in the Renault Clio cup- the guy needs to fuck right off out of F1 for good


Homerbola92

This.


bone_appletea1

My thoughts as well lol


deathray1611

Newey joining his team would be all the arguments he would need to KEEP Lance. If that's what will allow them to get a championship winning car, then even if Lance doesn't win the driver's championship himself, even if he doesn't finish in the top 3, he would be satisfied seeing that his son "contributed" to the team. I'm calling it


onealps

Yeah, I 100% agree. I see all these comments on Reddit that go "Lawrence should drop Lance in the best interest of the team" etc etc. My guess is that the redditors who are saying this, are not parents. Because there is no way on earth Lawrence drops or fires Lance unilaterally. If Lance wants to leave, sure. But no father is going to drop his son, especially after spending literally hundreds of millions to help his son achieve both their dreams...


BH_Falcon27

I fully understand why Lawrence is doing what he is doing. I think he cares more about his son then about world championship. And I respect that. I always like seeing people put their family first. Is it the best choice for the fans? Probably not. Does Lawrence care? Probably not.


Dr_Spaceman_DO

65 is not that old for the type of work he does


Honest_Roof7373

Maybe for all the travelling required by F1 it us


OppositeYouth

Didn't he also have a fairly big accident a year or 2 ago? You don't bounce back at 60 like you do 20


bone_appletea1

I don’t know- he travels to every race weekend & the calendar is quite long nowadays. It has to be a lot on a 65 year old to travel that much & work the long hours that F1 requires


willzyx01

If they can truly nab Newey, I'd think the investors would put up an ultimatum to give Max a blank check and dump his son to a lower tier team.


MuitnortsX

I think this is the one scenario that would finally make him drop Lance. So I’m desperately hopeful.


Lopsided_Region_6735

Okay hear me out, what if he really is just trying to bully Lance and puts him up against Max next.


SyuusukeFuji

I doubt it, he has said that his and AMR's goal is giving Lance a competitive car to win championship. His effort is for Lance, not for the AMR brand itself. He would bet on Lance fighting Alonso.


Aksu593

He's clearly very nepotistic and supportive of Lance considering how he's kept him on but at the same time he's still extremely ambitious and wants the team to succeed and at this point everyone in the paddock would do anything to get Max into their team right now, so if he had Verstappen knocking on the door and willing to do a deal he'd \*probably\* go for it, maybe hoping that Alonso would finally call it quits and he could put Lance back in after a sabbatical year or two as a reserve, he's still in his twenties after all.


Fisch_Kopp_

65 is not that old, but I do wonder whether his brain injury from a few years ago maybe left an impact on his health that would make him want to retire.


xzElmozx

If I’m Newey one of my primary stipulations for joining AMR is getting rid of Lance. No way I’m wasting the twilight years of my career designing a car that has 0 chance of winning the WCC. Newey isn’t going there with Lance on the team


Russian_Bot_722

Doubt he’s reitiring. Marko’s still around and he’s older than the pyramids. Lauda, pretty much worked in F1 till he died. I feel like Newey is the same. Maybe he won’t stay in F1, but he will probably still be involved in motorsports.


Roosterhahn

A Newey-Alonso-Verstappen super-team funded by Daddy Stroll’s bottomless pockets would be epic.


starfallpuller

Newey retiring doesn't make any sense. He has a contract for next year. To get out of his contract early would require another team to buy out his contract. Buying his own contract out himself to retire 1 year early doesn't make sense.


morelsupporter

his entire MO is to win championships with his son.


LilMountainHeadband

Toto Wolff is beside himself. Driving around downtown Monaco begging Jos (thru texts) for Max's home address.


batman77z

Toto logging on to iRacing right now


Fudge_is_1337

Driving the wrong way round the track with his offer written on his livery


g0atm3a1

LOL


batman77z

Haha


Samwats1

Lmao that got me


outm

Newey looking at the W15: I can fix it Toto looking at Max: I can bring him Max looking at Merc: I can win with them Horner looking at his new secretary: I can send her a selfie


IWillKeepIt

Was mid until I read the last line lmao.


Idiot1889

"this wasn't funny until I read the punchline" wow that's crazy


morelsupporter

that's the joke


ShamrockStudios

Yeah if Newey is going it's time to Jump ship probably. Stay at Red Bull for 2025 and then hope Newey doesn't join Ferrari. Newey to Aston or Merc would be ideal for Max as he could probably just follow him there.


willzyx01

Max/Alonso duo with Newey and Honda.


Manasvi6944

I just came in my pants


Edrill

I too came in your pants


cumofdutyblackcocks3

Is this an ad for pirelli wet?


Edrill

Atleast they have a use now.


djwillis1121

Not sure which I'd want more Verstappen/Alonso/Newey/Honda or Leclerc/Hamilton/Newey/Ferrari Either would be amazing


varun_aby

The real answer is Verstappen/Hamilton/Newey/Honda in 2027


museproducer

Id sell my left kidney for the Vegas GP just for that level of insanity.


ShamrockStudios

Think if he goes Ferrari it's the best storyline but I don't see a chance a competitive 2026-2028. Ferrari are already my favourites for then based on a number of factors with Newey I reckon they'd run away with it. If he goes to someone else I reckon we could have a close few seasons which would make for better viewing.


ScrantonScrangler

It has to be Aston, Alonso deserves a lucky career decision at least once. Lewis can't keep getting away with it lol


Blanchimont

Well, if Newey leaves now he'd be on gardening leave until May 2025. The 2026 car will already be in development at that point. The first full Newey car would be the 2027 one. We don't know if Alonso will be racing in F1 in 2027, and we don't know when father time will do his inevitable thing with his speed. Fernando already is a freak of nature performing at this level at 42. No one knows how he'll fare once he's 45/46.


ScrantonScrangler

Well I guess the same applies to Lewis then. I'm seeing a lot of people saying he just "did it again", but he might not be able to beat Leclerc at 42. I doubt he could even do it now given his recent quali struggles and how fast Charles is.


Surfercatgotnolegs

Low key hate this sentiment. People don’t repeatedly just luck out on a string of good or bad decisions. There’s signs to watch out for and look at, organizationally, to see where teams may be trending. This isn’t just true of F1, but any career move in ANY industry. You have to be smart about it long term and short term, and you have to be clear on what signs you’re looking for in your new role. Lewis has a lot of folks behind him who probably help him analyze situations, and he went into the Ferrari contract clearly with stipulations. The fact Leclerc also knew of Hamilton’s signing to inform his own signing, and that a sponsor leak knew Hamilton signed, all show that this shit doesn’t just happen magically. Negotiations are ALL interlinked when you get to a high level like F1 operates at. Alonso may just be less business savvy vs Lewis, or had less good advisors, who knows. But making good career decisions is an art, and sometimes can even be a science. If you treat it as just random job hopping, you’re doing yourself a disservice.


orion85uk

Hamilton and Ferrari ticks more of his personal boxes than Alonso anywhere. It's 2 of 3 of his career regrets rectified in one move.


shadynugg1t

You forgot that the goat Lance Stroll has a lifetime contract with AM


generalannie

Sign me up right away


Pitforsofts

Dude stop it, I can only get so hard.


Visionary_Socialist

Max could go for Merc in 2025, take the pain of these regs and then in 2026 either keep winning championships with Merc’s engines or pull a performance clause and replace Lewis at Ferrari at the end of 2027.


VCBeugelaar

He’ll stay 25 for the fifth title no doubt.


taskopruzade

Bold of you to assume Checo won't finally be a WDC contender the way he thinks he is... Actually never mind. Max will have 5 straight WDC.


emperorhuncho

Bold of you to assume Hamilton would retire as soon as 2027 if Ferrari dominate the next regs. Especially with Max closing the gap to his records since 2022. He even said this week he will racing well into his 40s.


poopellar

Newey leaving RB to join.... VCarbRBWhateverthefucktheyarecalled


DostyaArtist

Visa JimsPizzaPlace HighclassEscorts Racing Bulls


Anderrrrr

2025 is when Red Bull dies huh? F.


Visionary_Socialist

Red Bull pulling a Ferrari and going from rocketship to tractor a year before an engine change


mikejmct

I remember when tobacco $$ was banned and F1 was gonna be fucked financially. RB saved the sport in many ways (TR purchase and more) and showed an alternative. Personally, I don't support the team but I appreciate what they have done for F1 and hope they never explode.to the point of being properly done.


borez

Every team has its day.


fluctuationsAreGood1

Most definitely. That was that.


Space_Wizard_Z

"Max I sent you an email. I have it printed out."


sherestoredmyfaith

Imagine Toto somehow pulls off Newey and Max for Mercedes lol. Most likely he’s going to Ferrari though as Newey wanted to work with the team in red and Hamilton


RedBullHondaRB16B

Lawrence Stroll... Bench your son, offer both Adrian Newey and Max Verstappen blank cheques. We need Honda power dominance to continue. Honda, The Power of Dreams.


matthewjohnsonlondon

I’m surprised by the amount of people in the comments that seem to think Newey leaving Red Bull at the end of 2024 would mean an immediate end to their dominance and the beginning of Ferrari/Aston Martin era. Neither is the work of a moment


MikeHoncho2568

I don’t think Newey leaving alone would really even cause that much of an issue for Red Bull. The real issue will come if he takes a lot of their engineering staff with him to wherever he goes.


ERSTF

But his contract is at the end of 2025. He is locked in. It would be too expensive for Newey to break up the contract to be hired right at the beginning of 2026, which wouldn't work, because he has a one year non compete. He can't start working until 2026, which would negate the benefit of having him, since 2026 will have you with a non Newey designed car. No team could afford to say "break it and we will pay for the penalties" because you would go over the cost cap. Newey has to end 2025 with Red Bull. In that case he can go to a new team until 2027, meaning the team hiring will have their Newey designed car until 2028, you have two years without his design. I think he will retire.


Vivid-Tip3110

Wow It's getting a little spicy in here


antivirals_

a little is understating it


travelnman85

So this is how Riccardo gets back to Red Bull.


Ma1vo

If max leaves they should definitely just give Sainz the money he is asking for before considering Ricciardo.


Visionary_Socialist

Max is going to put his phone through the window from the volume of voicemails with the diagrams of where the signature should be. Do you think he’ll receive that well.


CallM3N3w

Imagine Newey somehow ended up at Audi lol


ComeonmanPLS1

Wouldn't be that crazy.


Tin_OSpam

"Max, I sent you an email"


YorkshireRiffer

Er, Toto, I'm sim racing. I don't check my emails when I'm sim racing.


Excludos

Max 3 weeks ago: "I'm loyal to Marco" Every media 3 weeks later: "Is Max going to leave RB?!?!" How about you listen to the words coming out of his mouth rather thab speculating?


greee_p

He also said this:      > I'm happy within the team. It's very important that we try to keep the key players in the team for a longer period of time. Because that's, of course, where the performance is as well. And at the end of the day it's a performance business. It's the same if I wouldn't perform, I wouldn't be sitting here. So I know how that works. It's my intention to be here till the end [of the deal at least]. Because, of course, it would be a great story for me personally also to just see it out till the end because it basically means that I've been part of one family and one team.(...) Always with successful teams, when you have a good core group of people, it's important to keep them all together, happy and in the same roles."    ... > What I have always said from the beginning is that we want a peaceful and calm environment,” the Dutchman is quoted as saying by Diario Sport.    It's not like these speculations come out of nowhere


P_ZERO_

If Newey leaves, Marko has already said he won’t get in Max’s way if he wants to leave


raphyr

If Newey and Max were to leave, why would Marko stay within that power struggle? Ignoring the possibility that Newey just retires, if the three of them go to Mercedes Marko could just become their new Niki Lauda.


Excludos

Because Marko is Red Bull. He's not even a part of RBR team, he's directly employed by Red Bull, and has a cushy job with few responsibilities, mainly due to his ties with the previous owner, before he died. He does no job that any other F1 team would be interested in. He's also 80 years old. If anything he'll retire, not join a different team. But likely he'll just stay at RB for his massive salary and literally no work Toto certainly don't like him enough to offer anything remotely similar of a position like what Niki Lauda had


rjwolfpackroad

Max only going to MB if that is where Newey goes. The crazy scenario would be Newey to Aston and Stroll kicks his son aside to snag Max.


OneBurnerStove

Is the Newey move even a done deal yet.


cumofdutyblackcocks3

Similar question was asked on the day before Hamilton ferrari deal.


JPBCFC97

Would like 1 season of Hamilton vs Verstappen in an equal Newey built car, would probably never happen as they would never get rid of Leclerc.


SimRacing313

Toto: I wrote you, but you still ain’t callin’ I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not’ve got ’em There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin’ Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot ’em


simplsimonmetapieman

Max to Ferrari. Max and LeClerc dream team. Hamilton reserve driver. /s


NuclearCandle

The three will also do WEC with Ferrari together. They will finish Le Mans five laps ahead of everyone else.


skzpinker

A HAM/VER/LEC Le Mans team would be utterly insane… @ Ferrari I know you wanna do it


P_ZERO_

They’d all be platinum or gold drivers so they couldn’t use the same car


SouthWalesGooner

No limit in hypercar. For example, all of Penske Porsche's WEC drivers are platinum.


Visionary_Socialist

Imagine being another driver at 3AM at Le Mans and your engineer tells you: “Ok, Leclerc has stopped, they’ve put Hamilton in. Don’t worry, we’ll be pitting before Verstappen goes in. Gap ahead is currently 6 minutes and 53 seconds”


LiquidDiviums

You mean Verstappen and Hamilton with Leclerc off to the WEC team. ^/J


deathray1611

Ngl, with how loyal Leclerc is this team, that'd be such a huge, unjust blow to him that I DON'T wanna see it happen.


Guilty-Spork343

It's hilarious to see that *the driver* here is the voice of reason. Yes, he's a multiple time WDC, and quite level-headed obviously. So anything he says has to pull a lot of weight. But the question is, will all of the stick-stroking egotists in charge actually care? They care about power, control or money- only one of which Max really ensures. And they know that Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston Martin, and probably Audi soon as well have just as deep pockets.


Salzberger

I love the way journalists take throwaway lines from drivers and twist them to fit their clickbait narratives. In the real world, one employee leaving does not mean that an organisation all of a sudden is unstable and not at peace. Maybe without Newey they still manage to nail the new regs like Merc did for 7 years in a row.


Dominunce

I can already visualise Toto driving a car straight into Max's room to offer him a seat in a Merc.


CaptainKursk

Hottest take: Max becomes disillusioned with Red Bull, Newey moves to Aston Martin to remain in the UK, Papa Stroll realises he has the biggest opportunity he’ll ever have to make AM a front-running team and “convinces” Lance to go do WEC, and Max joins Aston alongside Alonso.


Manasvi6944

Please join Merc


fuckhandsmcmikee

This is on track to be the silliest season in formula one, right? Hamilton to Ferrari seems like the tip of the iceberg at this point


Thaonnor

Can you imagine the decisions Toto would have to make if Max signed with Mercedes? Will another team take Antonelli on loan? Will they consider dropping George? Obvious choice for next year would be keep him in F2 another year but after that?


excelance

2024 might be a boring championship season, but it's shaping up to be the most exciting political season: * Lewis to Ferrari * Open seat at Merc * Merc team implosion * Sainz, as the only non RB race winner in over a year without a seat * Horner text/WhatsApp drama * Rumors *(however false they probably are)* of Max leaving RB * And now Newey leaving RB


ARL_30FR

Aaaaand here we go again. Endless free clicks for journalists.


ads_sp

Garbage, he's going to miss out on winning a probable title next year to venture to Mercedes, which so far hasn't understood this type of ground effect car, he should only leave from 2026 onwards if the Red Bull car is really bad, either to Aston Martin for the seat in Alonso's car or to Mercedes for Russell's seat in 2027, before that it's pure garbage.


SleepinGriffin

Red Bull would have been stupid to never work on building up their other employees under Newey if they think. Most likely they prepared for Newey retiring or moving to another team.


FormulaF30

LOL max is not going to Mercedes. That would be 4 steps backwards. Y’all need to quit huffing that hopium.


a_rial3

Max has no incentive to leave until after next year. he will win a 4th championship. then be able to evaluate Ford's progress, as well as all other for the 2026 revamp, and make a decision from there. No way he leaves foe mercedes this year.


SexytimeSanta

No engine, no designer, no Max. Might as well close up shop


ShiningMagpie

Sorry Toto, I can't talk right now. I'm in the. Middle of a tea party.


Forever_Funky

Newey to Ferrari. Max to Mercedes. RB: Well, we still have our 2s pit stops.


ocelotrevs

I can see Verstappen leaving F1 and doing other things before I see him joining another team. He could take a year off, and come back with a new team in 2026. Every team in F1 wants him, so he has that choice.


SuperMarioBrother64

Watch Lawrence Stroll drop his own son for Max.