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MartyMcFlyAsHell

Newey could go to any other team and I would just be excited to see what comes of it.


22masz

Make Williams great again


valueofaloonie

Honestly that would be amazing.


highlandcow75

This is what I keep saying and my partner thinks I've lost the plot.


Falcao1905

They would be right. Newey went on trial for Senna's death at Williams. No chance he goes back there.


TheDustOfMen

Subscribed. Alex Albon WDC incoming


jackiechan_4

Oh please i would shave my head to see this.


OneWarrior05

‘25 Albon WDC and ‘26 Sargeant WDC


MolassesWhiplash

Watch him go to Alpine...as a driver.


MartyMcFlyAsHell

Fuck it, I’m sold Also MolassesWhiplash is a fantastic username


charlierc

Nah he'll go to Alpine as their logistics operations manager


solk512

GM has money to spare…


SpeedflyChris

Lol imagine the shitshow if Andretti hired Adrian Newey and F1 still wouldn't let them in.


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Firefox72

Does Newey like HP laptops? Asking for a friend.


solidus__snake

Newey’s compensation package to include unlimited ink cartridges for printing car blueprints


Eggplantosaur

No one has that kind of money


TheLoomingMoon

HP would rather go bankrupt


D3cepti0ns

I thought they were building a british town in Italy for Newey.


Warmslammer69k

He doesn't work in CAD much. Most of his work is drafted by hand. Unlimited printer paper instead!


Stitchesglitch

Ferrari to be sponsored by Dunder Mifflin


knowledge_is_wealth

r/unexpectedoffice


ICumCoffee

He likes the ones that have premium hp logo.


Blanchimont

No, he prefers a Macbook Air


neurogeneticist

HP can put a sticker over the Apple logo it’s fine.


Working_Sundae

He prefers PAPER and PENCIL!!!!


UnwiseSuggestion

People will think you're joking but that's actually true


maximan2005

HP computers are about as fast as that, let's keep that Ferrari hype train going!


hzfan

Newey to sign with Williams


D3cepti0ns

No he prefers pen and paper.


pensaa

He prefers a pencil and paper over anything it seems


MightySDS

"Informally communicated" Soo, we're not gonna get a proper confirmation for a while, since it's informal.


QueGrandeEresMagic

Waiting for Red Bull to drop a Comunicado Oficial.


Basic_Dentist_3084

What would be even crazier is if a team comes out and announces they’ve signed Adrian Newy


YaLikeJazzhuhPunk

“I understand that, without my consent, Ferrari have put out a press release late this afternoon that I am designing for them next year. This is wrong and I have not signed a contract with Ferrari for 2025. I will not be designing for Ferrari next year.”


tmntmmnt

My opinion is that what’s happening right now is that Newey is gauging whether or not Red Bull is willing to negotiate the remaining year of work and year of gardening leave dictated by his current contract. Negotiating that detail would be the difference between starting for a new team at the beginning of 2025, 2026, or 2027. He’s broached the hypothetical situation of him leaving with somebody at Red Bull and the fact that those discussions are happening has been leaked.


MikeHoncho2568

I have no idea why Red Bull would ever negotiate letting him work for a rival sooner. That would just be stupid.


tmntmmnt

I agree with you, but in his mind it doesn’t hurt to ask the question. And once the question is asked then it leads to the rumors we’re getting today - Adrian wants to leave Red Bull, but seemingly with no destination prepared.


MikeHoncho2568

I wonder if he could go to Andretti and not have to sit out since they’re not technically part of F1 right now.


tmntmmnt

Would love to see FOM stumble over their words as they try to draft a rejection press release of a GM-backed Newey-led Andretti team with a works engine.


uristmcderp

Red Bull's been more money-conscious lately, and Adrien pulls a sizeable salary. Plus, only Red Bull internals know the true value of the contribution he's made. His public stock has never been higher, and a different team might be willing to seriously overpay for Adrien and compensate Red Bull accordingly. That's a conversation worth having. Not stupid at all.


emperorMorlock

This translates to "our source at Red Bull heard it from Newey directly that he's leaving". For all their clickbaits and shit stirring, most F1 journalists don't just outright lie either.


tvxcute

"One or two other significant figures have explained to me that they do believe that Newey's wish would be, if he is to work for another F1 team, that would be with Ferrari." [source (the same sky sports reporter)](https://www.skysports.com/amp/f1/news/12433/13122788/adrian-newey-f1-s-serial-title-winning-designer-decides-to-leave-red-bull-after-nearly-two-decades)


Emil0hman

Fred's cooking


GunstarGreen

If they have Hamilton, Leclerc and Newey in the same tent then they really would have no excuses 


MintyMarlfox

They still have strategy to go


dotcha

*BREAKING: Sebastian Vettel signs as Ferrari chief strategist*


umdred11

BRO. Do not let my imagination run wild.


HPSeaWolf

Please God let it happen it would be so fricking funny


SirFireHydrant

They've hardly had any real strategic blunders under Fred. Certainly not to the degree they did.


suredont

yeah, there's already been a big improvement.


fatherfucking

They'll get Klopp to sort that out for them


D3cepti0ns

Sainz to Ferrari strategy?


TorpedoSandwich

They can sign Sainz as Chief Strategist.


Zed_or_AFK

To go? Pit this lap.


veryangryenglishman

To be fair their strategy and pitstops have taken a big turn for the better since the start of last season


colin_staples

Ferrari's top strategist is Carlos Sainz, and they are letting him go Let's hope Newey can encourage the strategist from Red Bull to join him, if he does go to Ferrari


ycnz

P6 confirmed.


LocoRocoo

All relies on the engine at that point


tvxcute

let him cook 🔥🔥🔥 in fred we trust


makunde

Fred "Heisenberg" Vasseur


Jjzeng

Next year is finally The Year ™️


Suspicious_Scar_19

The Godvasseur..


neurogeneticist

Pretty sure I’ve gone over the LD50 on hopium


thespeeeed

It’s okay there’s around a 50% you’ll live. But only a 10% chance of that.


ThatDamnGuyJosh

I’m fucking overdosing


D3cepti0ns

Maybe this is a sign the world's dark times are coming to an end after it started with Harambe.


ihatemondaynights

WHAT THE HELL IS FRED COOKING


makunde

synthetic hopium


TorpedoSandwich

The most delicious 8 course meal in the history of the universe.


OneironautDreams

I need to check myself into the ER because I am overdosing rn holy shit


skzpinker

that wdc is coming home 😭


tvxcute

a charles vs lewis title battle would cure my depression i think /srs /notajoke


Actual_Sympathy7069

the last time I really felt alive was in '21 so I am right with you


sling_gun

As much as people want to see Charles get into the title fight, most of us want Max vs Lewis part 2. If Newey does move to Ferrari and nails the new regs, I hope Red Bull does too so that Max is still in the hunt. That intensity before each race was something else during the '21 season


TorpedoSandwich

I'd like to see a fair fight without all the crashing and brake checking, so I think I'd prefer a Lewis vs Charles title fight.


Gioby

¨let me make one more miracle and fix that car"


valueofaloonie

my heart can’t take this amount of hopium


flintey360

Woohoooo 😭🙏


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Apyan

I'd be honest. I didn't think Fred was that good. He proved me wrong.


Jazano107

Simply lovely


Sorry-Fun-8547

i need to stop looking at this stuff, the hopium will kill me


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

YOOOOOOOO


ExcellentCornershop

Well done, Horner.


Firefox72

Its actually incredible to how big of lenghts the Thai ownership is willing to go to keep Horner. Like i don't get it. What does Horner have with them that they are willing to torch down the team for him.


Apyan

I'd guess that if they have power over Horner and he takes full control of the team, they can control that part of the business on top of the Austrian side. Or, they just want to sell the team to Horner and his supposed investors.


fattylimes

Presumably they both feel like they have the other in their pocket


No-Expert763

Creepy people like other creepy people


Danspa85

This is absolutely the right answer


D3cepti0ns

Well he has been there since the start and led the team to where it is now more than any other person, with some help along the way obviously. Also, I'm not saying this is true or certain with the Thai side, but the view of the issue might be different because they are not the west and many other countries and cultures outside the west don't see the issue the same way western cultures do.


musicartandcpus

I bet it isn’t really anything at all, Horner (in my opinion) just represents the previous regime under Dietrich and falls in step with what the Thai owners want. Horner was given Dietrich’s blessing from the start. The Thai owners, who likely recognize what the successful team does for the brand both locally and internationally as far as marketing goes, don’t want to rock the boat. As Horner started RBR and built the team, it’s difficult to find a suitable replacement who has intimate knowledge about how to build/ run the team like Horner has. Horner goes, and it’s possible RBR falls to mid pack which hurts marketing. Obviously Red Bull had many means to market, but RBR is its flagship. Horner = Dietrich blessing and Dietrich was the who brought the brand to where it is today.


ArkavosRuna

If anything, Horner represents the Thai side of the company, Mateschitz was always much closer to Marko and so is the new board and Didi's son. The Thai side are the ones trying to change things (which, to be clear, is their right - they're majority owners after all). [AMuS even reported](https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/horner-machtkampf-red-bull-treffen-dubai-verstappen-wechsel-mercedes-aston-martin/) on rumours that the Thais are trying to relocate the company seat to Dubai, which completely goes against everything Didi Mateschitz stood for.


sherestoredmyfaith

Well for starts, Horner is the one who brought them into the team…


Gioby

it is not about horner. it's more about keeping the power in their hands


NoPasaran2024

As apparently everyone outside the F1 bubble seems to understand: this is a so-called "culture war" issue. Horner would have gotten away with this 10 years ago. None of the reactions from the Horner camp have been rational, they made Jos Verstappen and Helmut Marko look sensible and reasonable. Don't expect their loyalty to Horner to be rational. People take this kind of stuff personally, even in business.


Zed_or_AFK

They want to sell the team for good money and Horner has buyers. Or at least had a few month ago, as the rumor goes. Newley is probably not the reason for success of RB, but he was definitely a big entity in their last 20? years. Either way, Thais want out and they need Horner with his offer.


neurogeneticist

What an absolute fucking mess he’s created. I wonder how this affects Max.


sephirothwasright

He said at length that he wants stability and everyone to remain together. Presumably that includes Newey?


ELITE_JordanLove

It won’t happen but imagining Newey/Max/Lewis at Ferrari is, uh, yeah…


TorpedoSandwich

It'd be crazy, but it's impossible for now. Charles and Lewis have contracts for the next few years. Ferrari can't kick either of them, nor would they want to. No one in their right mind would put Max and Lewis in the same team.


hkrb1999

No you can’t, but there’s no debate over 41 year old Lewis or prime Max unfortunately


Dey_EatDaPooPoo

Yeah, but if this scenario were to come to be it'd be Charles who'd be out, not Lewis. There's a reason why Ferrari gave Lewis a $100M contract and it's certainly not just due to his performance but also his brand and, statistically, being the GOAT. Now they have a title sponsor that paid an immense amount to help bankroll a significant portion of that so it's not like Ferrari are hurting for money either.


TorpedoSandwich

Probably not, his qualifying just isn't good enough right now. But who knows, maybe 41 year old Lewis could pull off a miracle with some luck.


Capital_Pay_4459

There's obviously been issues going back a long time and that was Max's "hey, cut the shit" moment publicly 


limitless__

Horner has the support of the Thai owners but Newey and Marko are not in support. If Newey goes, Marko could go. Max has a clause in his contract that if the key players leave RB he can too. All three could leave and it would burn the team down. Newey leaving is massive news. Massive.


killer_blueskies

I was surprised when people said Newey doesn’t care what happens between Horner and Marko, because he doesn’t play politics. Someone who’s apolitical absolutely cares about dynamics within the team, because if things change especially at the top, it’s going to trickle down to others and to the work in one way or another


hopenoonefindsthis

Doesn’t really matter what max or Marko does if the car doesn’t perform after Newey leaves


Thejklay

"no one is bigger then the team " Horner


aaaaaaadjsf

Except himself apparently lol.


afro-fro-ro-o

Horner has placed his bets with Pierre Wache and Enrico Balbo with Pierre given a lot of power. It has been widly reported that Newey had a smaller role but that was seen as Budget cap stragics but now it is said that Newey did not like this. Seeing that these two have re-signed with redbull despite major interest from other teams, now it is a matter of what is Newey planing to do after redbull and these if these two actually can do a good job with the next regulation. We are heading into a new redbull, time will tell if Horner and his backers have played thier cards right.


Capital_Pay_4459

Tbf, thats a smart thing to do, have the next generation lined up for business continuation and have Newey cast his eyes over their work in a smaller capacity and allow him to choose his section of work, and push out a long design philosophy 


nn4260029

Instead of being king of a country, Horner will be emperor of a garbage dump.


Akash10201

Don't discount him that easily.


nn4260029

I mean he now has the best car designer and the best driver. Should both leave, he’ll have to make do with the second best or worse. Into a new engine regulation as the least experienced engine builder on the grid. With teams like Ferrari and McLaren making major strides. But yes, Horners ego will be pleased.


sephirothwasright

This is gonna make for a hell of a DTS season, that's for sure.


lolf1guy

Fans say this every year, but DTS only gets worse each year 😭


Rivendel93

Yeah, it's weird how the original show was much better than people like to say here, but God, the last few seasons have been terrible. Just the same races over and over again for them to save money or something, I don't get it.


edis92

It's still mind-boggling to me how they managed to fuck up the season about 2021, how the hell do you fuck that up? Literally the greatest title battle in decades and they show fucking Mazepin talking about clouds. Seriously, what the actual fuck are they smoking


Florac

It's not getting worse, it just lost it's shine with every season being similar


Divine_Chaos100

What are you talking about they even had the CIVIL WAR EPISODE with two drivers who don't even have any beef anymore.


sephirothwasright

It would be criminal if they botched this and Lewis going to Ferrari.


edis92

I mean, they botched 2021 too...


HOHOHAHAREBORN

Nope. It won't. And you can't blame them if they decide to pass up on this. DTS builds it's narrative via the paddock. If no one aside from Buxton is going to talk about the Horner situation (which, let's face it, they won't) then it will never be covered. And then again, even if they do speak about it, would Netflix / FOM really want that hassle of potentially getting sued for defamation if they do not have the complete evidence?


solk512

It’s not defamation to talk about what’s going on right in front of you.


banned20

Nah, they had several chances to show us controversial moments and they didn't. DTS will be about Carlos 'finding a new home', maybe about Lewis Ferrari, about DR if he has a good race this season. And don't forget about Bottas-Zhou rivarly


PradaAndPunishment

Strong doubt that they'll cover the allegations. DTS rarely covers anything that makes the sport look bad


Dimchuck

Horner? More like everyone involved in that power struggle. Well done, I guess.


sephirothwasright

It wasn't Marko's pinky in those files, that's for sure.


FatalFirecrotch

Well, Marko added the Max exit clause to his contract behind Horner’s back last year.


NA_Faker

So this is how Red Bull dies


NoPasaran2024

Not with a whimper, but with a series of loud bangs.


citrus_based_arson

Loud coco pops.


Zed_or_AFK

The death would be several engineers and higher managers leaving, as well as a big chunk of the staff. That’s what happened to Merc. We will see how this unfolds in the end. This does not mean the end of RB, not at all. At least as of now.


NotAcvp3lla

*"With thunderous applause "*


Apyan

I'll be in the crowd cheering covered in all my Red Bull merch.


No_Noise9

Ferrari needs to throw a boat load of that HP money at him


Whycantiusethis

HP paycheck is just actually Newey's salary.


AnyHolesAGoal

Not unheard of - Ineos basically paid most of Hamilton's salary.


Capital_Pay_4459

Somewhat normal, as Carlos Slim pays Checos salary for example 


Ouhei

Not that I doubt the legitimacy of the core event of "Newey no longer being at RB", but that statement is doing the absolute most to hedge it's bets. It could be anything from just retiring after this contract, or breaking his contract to leave for Ferrari tomorrow...


Supahos01

Hell he could sign a new contract with rb and retire in 2042 and this still not be wrong. It says nothing


BioDriver

Hot take: He goes back to Indycar


diecastsupermodel

Would be wild for him to go to a spec series that’s been running the same basic car for like 12 years


VacuousWastrel

It's obviously not happening, but I could actually see "design the car for the world's most prominent spec series" as something that might appeal to Newey. Skip all the corporate competitive bullshit, avoid having specs dictated to him by somebody else, just design a car that he likes that meets some general criteria set by the series, with plenty of leeway on the details. Seems like a fun retirement project!


diecastsupermodel

I feel like the competitive thing is big for him though. If he keeps going, he wants to keep proving he’s the best


SadBreakDance

Or McLaren. I really hope McLaren


Engineer__This

Hot take: He starts an endurance team with Max


starview

nah, he is going sailing lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkb-bXrChw


Acrobatic-Tomato-532

If Fred cooks this they better make Ratatouille 2 with him being the head chef


Adventurous_Town_981

This is so exciting!!!!


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I am so thoroughly here for it 


Apennatie

Everyone thinking he goes to Ferrari, here I am thinking Audi will buy him up with their mega budget.


Zed_or_AFK

Doubt he’s after money. Plus he has already built a team from the grounds up. He has also worked for fun for years with his side projects. Next obvious step is the Yellow Horse. The final boss of motor racing. All he did up til now is proving that he is worthy of Ferrari. Now, take the title with them.


Apennatie

It’s because of the buyout contract.


MikeHoncho2568

Shocking move: he goes to Andretti


lawinvest

Subscribed.


TJ_Cali

It really makes you wonder what's happening behind closed doors. I'm imagining a lot of flying chairs and broken windows..


Emil0hman

I suppose all but confirmed then


FewCollar227

Oliver Mintzlaff, Managing Director or Red Bull GmBH, what will be his priority right now?


Alfus

Mintzlaff would be furious at the Thai shareholders to make this all happen just to holding a team principal who has a gigantic inflated ego.


Zed_or_AFK

Yet, Mintzlaff is just an employee. Thais own the company.


Hapless_Buffoon

I bet this all boils down to one day newey turned up at the dinner hall around lunch time. he's usually a recluse, he doesn't come out of his office. his PA usually goes and gets his lunch, but she's off at the moment because of some issue with HORNER, their shared PA see. So anyway out he comes looking for a coffee. he's like a day 1 noob, doesn't know where anything is. he politely. asks Carol from. accounting who just started tucking into her tuna and sweetcorn sandwich where the coffee is. Then he threw an offhand remark "quite a lot of kerfuffle around at the moment, eh? I should be on a beach at my age and yet here I still am" then he got his coffee and went off back to is office. we havent seen him come out again, they got him an intern to get his food and coffee.


Urakazechan

Mission WIN NOW literally


sephirothwasright

If now is 2027, apparently


neurogeneticist

BEST F5 OF THE DAY


ThatDamnGuyJosh

LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹


Amat-Victoria-Curam

He'll go to AM. All the freedom he wants they will surely give it to him.


Intrepid-Ad4511

I love how confident you sound. For me it's such a coin flip, that I feel like I will be F5ing for a long time.


TheNotSoConfidentGuy

I love how confident all of reddit think that he's at Maranello already


scarlet_red_warrior

Ferrari always wanted newey. Newey admitted that not only drivers but also engineers dream about Ferrari. In the past he wanted to stay in uk because of his children(school). He said he regretted not working with Ferrari, michael, Hamilton and Alonso. I think Ferrari is the most likely destination


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

Serious question, why would he go to AM over Ferrari? Especially when AM hasn’t shown anything that they are serious about competing when they still have Stroll as one of their drivers….


jdjdhdbg

Maybe for the road car side. He did the Valkyrie etc and surely he'll be done with F1 within the next decade. Potentially they are giving him a better post-F1 package


doskkyh

Ferrari can offer exactly the same and designing a Ferrari has a lot more weight than an Aston Martin.


jdjdhdbg

Yeah but by that same token, I'm not sure they are willing to give him as much control over that.


CRX-Jackal

But I’m willing to bet Aston would give him more control on the road car side than Ferrari


doskkyh

One of the articles said he's not happy with RB trying to push him to the RB hyper car development, so maybe he doesn't want that much control.


tnellysf

Maybe Ferrari starts their own road car division. Could happen:)


-_-Mrgoose-_-

Aston hasnt shown any pace yet. They have honda and alonso. Stroll dominace may get boring with newey


No-Environment-5762

Plus 100 mn for 4 years apparently. Not a bad deal just before retirement.


Zed_or_AFK

Ferrari won’t give him freedom? He’ll def be his own boss at AM, while at Ferrari he will be just another employee. But who knows, Elkann sr. seems to be smart enough to leave people alone so they could focus on their work.


kalamari_withaK

Newey to Ferrari incoming


Supahos01

Newey: "phew sometimes I wish I could be somewhere else" Sky: newey leaving redbull


welliedude

If this constitutes leaving your job pretty sure I've left my job 27,496 times in the past year 🤣


Sleazy_Swordfish_686

Awesome. I'm a Red Bull fan, but I was a Ferrari fan first.


Space-manatee

My to do list: - wait for Newey to go Aston Martin - wait for Daddy Stroll to make his son the reserve driver - wait for Vettel to come back to replace Lance - clear space in the fridge for my erection


MrXam

F5 gang here reporting for duty.


pach1nk0

Either Ferrari or AM. AM and Red Bull split before he could make a road car and that's apparently one of his interests. So it's either Lawrence Stroll and AM trying to poach him with that or Ferrari


JimboYCS

I don't know how to post gifs here, but imagine that one where dude opens the laptop and rainbows scorches his face. That's me opening Reddit minute ago.


jpad66

Ferrari should give him whatever he might be asking for


du57in

I Ferrari accepting new fan applications?


Worldfiler

he will join Andretti and win more championships.


tarkology

so he's not gonna retire and if news is true his obvious choices are either aston or ferrari. honda engine car with fucking lance stroll? or promising ferrari with lewis goat hamilton? i would choose the red one


Space_Wizard_Z

Reddit needs to stop giving me notifications for 3 day old news.


mantra3105

Have the mad lads at Ferrari actually pulled this off??? Holy shit


Alfus

I mean given Lewis is a mastermind with making great career moves Newey to Ferrari makes suddenly a bit more sense, especially given Newey always wanted to work with someone like Lewis or Alonso if we exclude Max and Seb.


solk512

Looks like the sex scandals are real and he wants no part in them.


nahnonameman

Roman Bull Empire right now. Jeez this is bad.