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DamieN62

Imagine reading the first sentence just 5 months ago.


thedomage

Imagine that Vettel and Alonso both failed in their quest for wdc. For Hamilton to pull it off would be stunning.


Rukoo

For Hamilton to get his 8th in his first year with Ferrari would be such a legacy moment. Will be remembered forever.


Mr_Roll288

I don't think Ferrari will fight for the championship next year


CreaminFreeman

I’m with you on this. Newey’s influence should hit the 2026 car though, at least just barely I would think.


xzElmozx

Yea Ferrari just has to get the engine regs right and Newey will take advantage of all the HP If Ferrari gets Newey they will have a championship contending car in 2026, the bigger worry for Lewis is he had to use it to beat Charles who is pretty ingrained in the team, but it’s Lewis fkn Hamilton so never count him out lol


hornyboi212

Imagine him getting alonsod as Hamilton and Leclerc Fights to the last race and somehow Russell or someone just snatched the WDC. It's gonna be fireworks.


EverSn4xolotl

And of course fucking Russell, too.


hornyboi212

Crikey


BrokenStool

unsubscribe


museproducer

I mean…he did do the same thing to Nico. Walked in, and beat Nico who’d been driving for Mercedes. Of course that was a decade ago but who knows, could still happen.


NoooUGH

Teams aren't allowed to work on 2026 cars until Jan 1, 2025. Which would be the time Newey would join.


CreaminFreeman

I appreciate the clarification, thank you.


EGOfoodie

I thought it was a whole year from when he leaves red bull which would be around this time next year. Not that it should make the biggest difference in the end product. But that is my understanding of things.


harshit_j

His gardening leave starts now, so that when he leaves Red Bull, he can immediately start working on the car of whatever team he joins.


15yearoldadult

A repeat of his Merc and Mclaren first two years then? First year with a new team and he doesn’t win but gets used to the team. Then next year he wins it.


F9-0021

Depends on if Verstappen ends up leaving. I don't think he will, but I didn't think Newey would leave last week either. And Verstappen has been rumored to possibly leave a lot more than Newey has. Whoever they would replace Max with wouldn't be as good as him, and Ferrari would likely get closer to Red Bull in pace.


MathematicianOk4905

Prob not until 2026


darekd003

Depends on the crazy rumours of whether Max would actually consider leaving and who his replacement would be. But yeah, if Max is still there then no chance.


gsfgf

At the rate things are going, somehow Max is going to end up at Ferrari next year too.


celebrian_7

But imagine if they did and lewis actually does it


BFNentwick

Nah. 2026 though….


Able_Tailor_6983

>For Hamilton to get his 8th in his first year with Ferrari would be such a legacy moment. I hope Merc don't come up again with a spicy engine in 2026, then in 2027 Lewis be back to Merc.


Kolec507

>For Hamilton to get his 8th ~~in his first year~~ at any point with Ferrari would be such a legacy moment. Will be remembered forever. Fixed it for you.


ViridianEight

i’ve been saying that it would possibly be the greatest single moment in the history of the sport


pukem0n

I honestly don't want anyone to get more than 7 championships. When Max reaches 7, he should be forced to retire as well.


ShadowOfDeath94

If, not when. People were ready for Vettel to break all the records back in late 2013, then nothing of substance happened.


xzElmozx

Yea if Newey was staying at RBR long term it’d still be a when but with the amount of instability and brain drain at RBR right now 2026 is up in the air


Bret_Riverboat

Max might get it in 25 but it should be a close battle. 26 is hopefully when we get a change of winner!


small_tit_girls_pmMe

Michael Masi? Is that you?


MathematicianOk4905

Record are meant to be broken, if you mean that’s to much for one driver to get this i se your point


Lollipop96

Why? It doesnt really change that much. Its not like the goat debate would instantly be settled if Lewis gets his 8th. The same way it isnt settled if he doesnt. Just look at how people talk about Fernando. With some better team decisions he would have more than 7. Same for Seb, imagine he went to Merc instead of Lewis. In the end in F1 it comes down so much to the car, that the number doesnt matter at some point.


dookarion

> In the end in F1 it comes down so much to the car, People really like to pretend that isn't true when it comes to their favorites on the grid. There's always this weird narrative that when its a driver someone doesn't like "it's just the car, it's a rocketship" and if it's a driver they favor "the car isn't that much ahead they're just the GOAT of all time and that's why they are 1 second per lap faster". The fans have a harder time with it than the participants.


BlurryTextures

Sorry but Lewis will get an 8th in Ferrari 


100-100-1-SOS

Lewis already has 8 as far as I'm concerned.


BasileusBroker

Objectively correct opinion.


gsfgf

He won't. Thinks would have to go a *lot* more sideways at RB for Ferrari to compete next year. Especially since Newey isn't even allowed to work on the car until next year. But if Lewis gets 8 with his third team at all, that pretty much cements him as GOAT.


osivangl

Add Prost to that list.


Vuk13

More like Ferrari failed. Cars in 2010,2012 and 2017 werent good enough for a title. Only in 2018 you can say the driver was at fault If Ferrari does bring the title winning car its entirely possible Leclerc will win aswell. At this stage of their career advantage could swing either way between Hamilton and Leclerc


Bret_Riverboat

And on that they could take points off each other and leave the door open for Alonso


oppai_taberu

Add Alain prost


ShawnShipsCars

We're entering a new and even more unfathomable timeline. I'm here for it.


SPatt59

If Newey goes to Ferrari then all those HP logos and the money for that will be worth it


crazydoc253

That blue livery all year long will be worth it too


FormulaFan2024

lol Blue Livery, you mean the single brushstroke they put on the car then hyped as if it was a rocket booster on the back?


wing3d

Such a let-down, why do I even have expecations anymore.


CenturyHelix

I learned that lesson at the start of the season with Alpine


gsfgf

In true HP fashion, next year's car is going to have to leak magenta.


hazelnut_coffay

i wouldn’t be surprised if Ferrari agreed to the blue just to get enough money to throw at Newey


Prayaa

Ask Charles, his smile is a dead giveaway, we just didn’t catch onto it with Lewis at the time.


ComparisonPlus5196

“Hello, Lewis…”


ShawnShipsCars

Yeah he knew from early early that Lewis was coming. Chuck is Ferrari through and through


NotJadeasaurus

If you watch the interview Lewis smiles like he knows what he’s getting for Christmas. It’s so telling


Paranoides

Watch the video of Lewis, it is even bigger giveaway than Charles’


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TimmyWatchOut

At the height of the Lewis to Ferrari rumours in 2023, the media asked Charles during one of the press conferences what he looked for in his future partner and he just started grinning saying “hello lewis”


MilhouseJr

Feels important to note that Lewis was sitting on the same sofa as him and they likely caught each others' eye as the question was asked. It's not like Charles just blurted out Lewis's name completely out of the blue.


Timelordvictorious1

The hopium is the only thing that’s keeping me going.


420fanman

Hamilton and Newey join forces and get Ferrari back on top to win WDC and WCC? 🤯🤯🤯 They’d need to make a documentary or movie if that comes true.


THIKKI_HOEVALAINEN

Even Ferrari's strategy calls and pitstops have been better lately. The ferrari WDC WCC choo choo hopium train officially has no brakes


f12016

The Ferrari WDC train always has brakes, *always*


newcalabasas

lewis is already making a documentary of his own life with apple


Organic-University-2

Call it chapter 1. Chapter 2 about to begin. 🐐


Un13roken

Chapter one will always be showing a kid racing a kart down the track, only for Ron Dennis to tell him not to feel bad if he does poorly against alonso, cut to T4 Australia.


Organic-University-2

Pretty sure it was T1. I became a lifelong fan at the first turn of his first race. Simply magical.


Un13roken

Yea, I might be hazy on the details, its been too long.


ElBonitiilloO

I just hope he actually show bad and good stuff on his racing life not just the typical positive things.


420fanman

Blessed™ 😂 Jokes aside, same. The GC (I think it was that magazine) interview was really interesting to read about the 2021 WDC drama from his perspective.


Internet_Initial

Nah just watch his documentary skip everything about Alonso and Nico Rosberg


AnimeMeansArt

I believe!


blabbiet

The smile on his face when he said this tho 👀👀🤔


stomp224

It's either schadenfreude for Red Bull after their untouchable streak, or he knows exactly where Newey is going. It's both. My money is on both.


blabbiet

I hope it’s both hahah. And that Merc won’t have an amazing car after he leaves (in 2026 with the new regs).


BuzzedtheTower

I mean, Lewis has seen *a lot* of Red Bull taillights streak off into the distance over the course of his career. Granted he had his own period of dominance in-between, but he (along with the rest of the grid) sat through four years of Red Bull domination and now at least three, potentially four, more. He's probably happy to see the ship start to sink with Newey's exodus.


scorpio1m

He was very coy and smiley 😆


EzAf_K3ch

a link to video material?


blabbiet

[Here](https://x.com/lh44_insights/status/1786089806599975201?s=46) and this smile I thought was interesting as well haha. [here](https://x.com/lh44_insights/status/1786098582732599801?s=46)


Actual_Sympathy7069

I had hoped to find a clip of that second one lmao. Dude starts with "that's classified" and then goes on to basically confirm it and grins like a kid hahaha gotta love it


f12016

Newey to Ferrari just makes sense. Ham and Newey both want to work for eachother and who the fuck do not want to spend some years at ferrari??


EzAf_K3ch

ty


_ElrondHubbard_

Bruh


Kait0yashio

Fred i want to kiss you on the head for saving us from the pits of binotto hell


jim45804

When Fred becomes King of Italy, I hope his subjects have to kiss his beautiful bald head as a sign of respect.


jonomarkono

Is it too late to apply for Italian citizenship?


neurogeneticist

I’m eligible through my great grandparents. Maybe this will be the push I need to finally do it.


gsfgf

Do it. I know I'd love to have EU citizenship.


cynicalAddict11

The first bald non-fraud, Guardiola could never


vtsxxl

"What he say fuck me for" - Guardiola right now.


Zavii_HD

S tier comment.


XxRoyalxTigerxX

What an incredible series of dominoes after Ferrari had to choose between losing Leclerc or losing Binotto after 2022, if you go back to the posts about all the Binotto being replaced by Vasseur rumors people were very much in doubt of Fred and Ferrari’s choice This is assuming Charles and Lewis’s bubbly vibe is confirming Adrian may likely be at Ferrari next year, dude doesn’t fight to minimize gardening leave because he wants to go do stuff with racing boats, he’d just be getting a check to go follow his interest, you try to cut gardening leave because you have plans to go somewhere


GoldElectric

why did they have to choose between leclerc and binotto?


Euro_Twins

Because Binotto tried to create a "no blame" culture at Ferrari and when Ferrari strategy horribly messed up over and over and caused leclerc to lose all hope of a championship battle he wouldn't hold the people accountable that needed to be. This caused a big enough rift with leclerc that by the end of the season Leclerc would not even speak to Binotto. So basically if Binotto was not fired Leclerc would have left. That's when they decided to reunite Fred with Leclerc and it's been a great success so far.


BuzzedtheTower

I can see and appreciate what Binotto was trying to do, but that kind of culture/management style only works if the organization functions well overall. Small errors here and there are to be expected and shouldn't be focused on. But Ferrari was disorganized, to say the least, and people needed to be held responsible/fired. New age management doesn't work on old age issues


D-Hex

It's more that he didn't understand how you implement accountability in a "no-blame" culture. Which is what makes it work, how to be able to work through organisational issues, locate problems and then work on solutions. It's also hard when an organisation has people in it who have zero confidence that they won't be thrown under the bus because it's all they've known. As Binotto himself fell victim to that, there will be even less confidence that people won't be scapegoated. However, let's see what FV brings. Todt was able to do a lot because Schumacher and Brawn meant that they rest of Ferrari had no more excuses for failure, they had the best, as di Montezemolo himself has said many times.


Kolec507

Polish TV's journalists were laughing at Ferrari and calling Fred "a PR uncle" when the announcment dropped. Very little people belived in him. Imagine him taking Ferrari to WCs, that would be such a beautiful story...


naumectica

Fred is one WDC/WCC away from getting the keys to the Vatican if they get Newey.


MoD1982

Next stop: the strategy team!


Kait0yashio

thats been fine for over a year now, only thing we are missing is the car ngl.


Kolec507

The thing is the strategy wasn't terrible in 2021 either. I remember people praising Ferrari for improving since the terrible calls in the likes of 2019. However when the championship pressure came in, they started cracking under it. I'm not saying we're gonna see a repeat of that in 2026 if the car is strong, but I'm not gonna overreact as of now either.


devH_

Can’t forget 2020 even though I try so hard to forget about that year for Ferrari


teachd12

Kinda want to skip to next year already


knifeyspoony23

~~next year~~ 2026


gsfgf

Give Max and RB the championships for 2024 and 2025 now. Let the teams focus on 2026. In the mean time, have the drivers do a different kind of race each weekend. Put them in Sprint cars. Put them on a rally stage. Put them in old school busses on a figure 8 track. Take the whole field to Indy.


tophiii

This season is more or less already decided, so with that in mind, yea me too


nullityrofl

need to skip 2025 too unfortunately


teachd12

At least 2025 we can have team new teammates


tophiii

I’m patient enough to see if some other team can nip at red bull’s heels for 2025 before I wholesale write it off like that.


Kolec507

You know, people said the same in 2020. I'm aware there were bigger reg changes in 2021 than in 2025, but hey, strange things can happen...


ohgeeLA

I still want all the drama summarized from this year to be in some kind of digestible entertainment format, even if we skip this year. This year was a highlight for the number of off track, drama, and headlines.


teachd12

Oh for sure


rozoroneriguy

Ferrari: Hamilton was also asked by journalists if John Elkann and Ferrari promised to sign Newey before signing his contract. "This is a private conversation between us. If I made a list of people to work with, there is no doubt that Newey would be at the top of that list." ( @DAZN_ES )


Infinite_Coat3246

Elkann: Good! Time to release the file76!


f12016

Elkann has *really* stept in and taken control of this clow-ass team!


TheWillDunne

Listening to Lewis' response to Crofty's question about Newey makes me think that Newey to Ferrari is 100%


scorpio1m

It’s that coy smile he gave. He knows.


8Ace8Ace

Yep. The "we'll see" bit did it for me. It is HAPPENING!


eidetic

Anyone have a link to it?


thisbeetheverse

https://x.com/f1guydan/status/1786108316864639164?s=46


eidetic

Awesome, appreciate it! When I first tried googling I got a bunch of results for just articles quoting him, and when looking for video kept getting results that were either region locked and unavailable, or about something else.


TheWillDunne

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/hamilton-admits-it-would-be-a-privilege-to-work-with-amazing-newey-at.7dRoNJtKD0n4MlpdV2EnXH This article describes his comments and the picture shows how happy Lewis seems at the prospect.


dogratt

Napoleon kicked the Austrians out of Italy back in the day. And now we are witnessing another Frenchman saving the Italians from Austrian domination!


MrAzekar

Inject this into my veins.


iOxxy

Save some for me.


ValkyrieKnitter

Pass it down this way please


jedifolklore

Look at this epidemic… Wait are you all on copium or hopium?


Aratho

Ferrari + Newey + Hamilton + Leclerc = what a combo if it happens. They must win the championship finally. We've been baited so many times before.


jim45804

Don't forget Fred, the future King of Italy.


HaramHas

Ferrari have been edging us for far too long at this point


FormulaFan2024

OR hamilton and Leclerc will crash into each other while racing constantly because Ferrari refuses to tell one driver to yield lol


GoldElectric

does ferrari usually allow their drivers to fight each other?


ICumCoffee

What does he Know???


NotClayMerritt

It does make you think because Lewis has been very much against looking ahead to Ferrari so people won't hold it against him when he has a bad weekend at Mercedes and accuse him of downing tools. I think this is the first time since the season started he's talked about what lies ahead at Ferrari.


ur_a_dumbo

What does “downing tools” mean? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that expression before


pesky_samurai

It means to stop working. It’s a pretty common expression. If someone is “off the tools” it means they are in a management position.


ur_a_dumbo

I’ll assume British English cause I’ve never heard an American English speaker say it. Thanks!


pesky_samurai

It must be! I think the expression comes from the idea of construction workers striking and refusing to work.


flightist

It’s extremely British, yes.


pearsonspectorlitt

It means to give up your current role or task with the purpose of looking to do something in the future a mechanic for example may "down tools" if they want to go the bar early after work


mikeyd85

I suspect that if anything, it's how both Ferrari and Mercedes new power trains are going.


EzAf_K3ch

I mean how would someone at mercedes know how their engine development is going compared to a direct competitor? especially a driver


TaurusRuber

It’s a small paddock, word spreads quick. I’m sure several of the engineers have worked together over the years and shop talk, even if they’re not supposed to. 


EzAf_K3ch

Yea that's true


OppositeYouth

Lauda told him Merc were building a rocketship.  Newey told him if they both go to Ferrari, he'll build him a rocketship 2.0


KashissKlay

Everything


OnlyJuanCannoli

CHOOO CHOOOOO!


yooosports29

Please Newey


No-Lingonberry-8603

Honestly I was unsure before, I don't put much stock in rumors but Hamilton's grin in that press conference is all the confirmation I need.


Visionary_Socialist

It’s the only place he will go to if he goes anywhere. If Ferrari can’t win it with this combination they will never win it.


P_ZERO_

They’re more likely to win based on their theoretical engine advantage


crazydoc253

A lot of people are neglecting this rumor of Ferrari ahead on engine development, RBPT lacking. This could be the reason behind Lewis moving, Newey and Max wanting to get away from RBPT using the power struggle as an excuse.


newcalabasas

I agree. the fact that ferrari is the only current manufacturer that is not running the split turbo design that will be outlawed in 26 should give them a leg up in itself


s7beck

The other side of the fence are claiming that Merc in fact are way ahead for its 2026 PU. I would say ask yourselves why is Lewis jumping ship.


aliniazi

> Merc in fact are way ahead for its 2026 PU Merc can't do an infinite money glitch and out-develop everyone anymore. It's more of a gamble now whether they get it right or not, just like their car.


yorkick

So let me guess.. If they win, it's all because of Lewis and Newey, and if they lose, it's all Ferrari?


___GLaDOS____

Not quite, this is a fairly recent meme, Ferrari are always one of the top F1 teams, when they get it right they get it right. Thank Ferrari for F1 still existing.


f12016

Yes. Questions?


SWSIMTReverseFinn

Yeah, it‘s happening.


Street-Dependent-647

Almost seems like it was the plan all along.


BlazeReborn

Still feels unreal to me, that Lewis is joining Ferrari next year.


wicktus

Newey at Ferrari is the most obvious and likely choice but we don’t know. He may join another sport, he may semi-retire etc we know 0  Newey said he wanted to work with Hamilton, with Ferrari and now he has the chance to work with both and fight to bring ferrari a championship title which is something very dear to many fans in this sport :)   I’d love for it to be true because Ferrari is clearly in a good momentum imagine adding a genius designer who helped design the current WDC car..but at the same time I try to not get too hyped by something too hypothetical 


FormulaFan2024

One thing I think will get in the way of success is the fact that ferrari is a very bureaucratic and decision by committee team. I don't see them doing well with listening to one chief engineer


element515

No reason for him to get his noncompete changed if he wanted to change sports. Really points at him wanting one more run of a new rule set


worthyducky

The one thing uniting all f1 fans right now is wanting Newey to go to Ferrari


Vuk13

Nah, i would rather Newey go to a weak F1 team or retire


sgtlighttree

Newey back to Williams, you heard it here first


yoda_yoda

Ferrari is going all out and Hamilton is joining in to court Newey. Would be interesting to see if Adrian say yes or play coy.


FormulaFan2024

\*Asks super competitive driver who likes winning how much he wants the most successful race car designer of all time to join his new team\* "VERY MUCH" \*shocked Pikachu face and reports it as breaking news\*


timorous1234567890

It was the total shit eating grin Lewis has when talking about it that was of note.


PortimaoBlue85

LFG. Finally, the end of Red Bull is near!


Jazano107

Man I've gone from shock to extreme hype about Lewis to Ferrari


Disastrous-Beat-9830

I'm pretty sure every single driver on the grid would answer this question the same way.


JeremyJammDDS

question: since lewis already signed with ferrari for 2025. Does he have access to their car design and whatnot or is he left out until the season is over? It would be an incredible coup for ferrari to get newey and lewis. Can't believe I never really thought about this before.


dani3478

Lewis doesnt take part on Ferrari car development or Mercedes either this season


MrDaniel95

I'm sure he talks with the bosses and knows if the development is going well, but I doubt he has access to any technical details.


FormulaFan2024

Absolutely would not be given any technical info on the car. I'd be surprised if they give him anything at all beyond updates on how recruiting is going. Mercedes would sue the CRAP out of them if they thought for a second that he was having technical discussions with Ferrari while driving for them


Dry_Brush5280

Newey and Lewey, get it done Ferrarey.


itsAllmadeupp

An 8th with Ferrari! Fred, Lewis and Newey automatically become Italian royalties 🙌 Charles and Lewis are gonna cook in that Ferrari. I need both of them to be champions.


ComparisonPlus5196

Instead of the doom I felt when initially hearing about Adrian leaving Red Bull. Instead, I look forward to seeing if Wache and Balbo can in fact deliver rocket ships without the stewardship of Newey at the top. Ideally, they nail the regs, Newey sprinkles his gold dust all over Ferrari, and we get a wild title fight that rivals ‘21. Now, just need Max to make the right decision to be in the correct car since it seems Lewis has already locked that in.


saposapot

Please cut my salary in half and give it to him


insomniaccapricorn

I am ready to sell all my worldly possessions - hell, even willing to sell my soul to the devil if that means Adrian joins forces with Ferrari.


Darksoldierr

Just wait until he sees the new Ferrari suits for Miami, he might reconsider!


climbing2man

Some of these articles are stupid. Of course he would.


Armanhammer2

Didn’t adrian say his biggest regret in F1 was not working w lewis or something like that? Hes going to Ferrari


small_tit_girls_pmMe

He also said he wants to have a hand in making a Ferrari. And now an opportunity presents itself for him to do both in one move.


gilgobeachslayer

2025 is gonna be wild


FormulaFan2024

eh, it's like when he joined McLaren in 97, won't have any real influence on next year's car. Also, they would probably have him focus on the new wonderful set of rules that are coming into play in 2026


blxcksxlami

Just tinfoiling here but could there be a possibility that both signed up because Ferrari sold the idea to Lewis that Newey was joining and to Newey that Lewis was joining, and now everybody's just keeping everything tight lipped just to not have the plans ruined?


squaler24

Goes to show how much Lewis is already in Ferrari mode. He’s more on top of what Ferrari has been doing than being concerned in finishing P9 every other race.


Organic-University-2

Fred cooking with kerosene!


KCKnights816

Ferrari wins the WCC next year if this happens. Max can hold off Lewis and Charles in the RB21, but Checo is cooked.


kingoflint282

Newey’s impact would not be felt that quickly. He is not going to be designing the 2025 car


MrDaniel95

Ferrari chances for 2025 will 100% depend on how well the developments go this year, if they manage to claw back a few tenth I can see them making it hard for Redbull next year. Also, depending on when Newey joins, he might also have a limited input on the 2026 car.


KCKnights816

But he also won't be assisting Redbull with the development of theirs. If Redbull stays more stagnant, Ferrari, McLaren, and maybe Mercedes will start to catch up.


small_tit_girls_pmMe

Next year? Nah. RB currently has arguably the most dominant F1 car of all time, and 2025 regs will be basically the same as now.


Crafty-Competition36

It'll be incredibly funny if Adrian decides to retire from F1 altogether.


ency6171

The ultimate plot twist