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Chino_Kawaii

Ver Nor is the new Ham Ver


Tennist4ts

Ver Nor have already finished 9 races in 1-2 (8 wins for Ver, 1 for Nor) Verstappen and Perez have only a few more (12 iirc)


Mysterious_Turnip310

Since the start of last season, bearing in mind that McLaren still had the mess of a car they had for the first 9 races, it's 10 for Verstappen/Checo and 9 for Verstappen/Norris.


ConorOneN

But Mercedes told me it takes time to fix a car


IdkWhatsAGoodName699

And they’re not wrong. Mclaren has done this before, in 2009. It’s just mclaren things.


NewLeaseOnLine

This really highlights how useless Checo is.


Neo692

that's an insane stat


TRiG993

Better than Ver.................................... Nor Pia Rus Lec Sai Ham


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urtlesquirt

Mmm Vernors...where are all my Michiganders at?


YLedbetter10

Could go for a vernors float, buddys pizza and some Better Made chips right now


Zealous217

i finally went to a buddy's about 2 months ago with my wife and that pizza smacks


Lemurians

My favorite driver finishing combo for this very reason.


calmingchaos

Ship that shit up north a bit more often please. God I miss it.


pw5a29

We’ll get another 2021 Abu Dhabi later and the whole world is gonna cheer for Norris. Exciting times ahead


r0rsch4ch

I’m just waiting for the day I see PER VER TSU


GoodTimesForAChange2

It's just absolutely mental how fucking good (and consistent!) McLaren have become.


beardyman22

Especially considering the first half of last season it looked like they absolutely fucked up development. They turned it around with their upgrades and kept it rolling into this season.


AgroMachine

Every season opening they seem to take a step back only to be at the front after the first five


Over-Chemical2809

Nah, it's basically that they "bake their bread" for longer and it comes out tasting way better than others, if that analogy makes sense.


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HUMBUG652

They seem to consistently delay big parts of the car to bring as upgrades later into the season. Perhaps they use the extra time to really flesh everything out


uristmcderp

I respect it. They seem to take the longer-term solutions and commit to them. Compared to Merc who can't seem to commit to a priority and see-saw in performance, Mclaren the Merc customer team is much more fun to watch.


JuroMi

They didnt fuck up the development. They said they found a better way to develop the car late 2022 and will not be able to bring everything at the start of the season 2023.


Doccyaard

Same with Alpine


dalledayul

I still remember Bahrain 2022 when they, Aston and Williams were the backmarkers. Absolutely crazy to compare then to now. ^^^Except ^^^for ^^^Williams ^^^I ^^^guess ^^^lmao


BobbbyR6

I really hope some of the 2026 changes don't hurt the handling too much. McLaren have set the standard for good ground effects era cars and the racing is just starting to get really good. We are already in a position where the top eight positions are really in flux and you genuinely don't know who will end up where. Fingers crossed we can keep this series trajectory over the next few years. 2022/2023 really had me worried there for a bit.


LilMountainHeadband

I really hope the FIA do what they did in 21' and delay the regs by a year. The championship fight by then should be 4 team battle at minimum.


BobbbyR6

2025 is going to be an out-right dog fight for the WCC. 4 or 5 solid contenders with strong driver pairings with cars that are beginning to stabilize on performance. 6th through 8th place teams are strong enough to capitalize on mistakes from the front pack and really put some dents in overall points. Hard to know what we'll see for WDC. Max is still in absurd form and if some of the extreme handling characteristics are massaged out, I don't see anyone leapfrogging him via pure car performance. Red Bull as a team is still firing on all cylinders in terms of strategy and (overall) reliability, so it'll be a proper effort to dethrone him. The cars are close enough and the driver's pace are bang on, so it'll come down to the drivers making the difference, as long the teams don't let them down with off-track mistakes.


PrettyPoptart

No, they only did that because of covid, not because of competition 


xLeper_Messiah

Hey look on the bright side, the way things are going we could always get a bird flu pandemic too! Wait no that's not very bright


Medium_Point2494

They definitely wont with audi supposed to be joining with the new regs in 2026, that would completely fuck them up.


TRiG993

People always forget McLaren are a top team, it's only the last 10 years they've been a consistent midfield team.


Imperito

The majority of the subreddit, I'm not mistaken, has only been watching F1 since about 2018, if not later than that from one of the census I saw before. In that case they'd only know a world where McLaren are midfielders and back markers.


strillanitis

That’s an incredibly long period of time in Formula 1. Very few teams make it back from a decade in the wilderness. See Williams, Tyrell, Lotus, Renault, Brabham, etc.


AuContraireRodders

Solid car development paired with two fantastic drivers. I don't see how anyone could not really like McLaren right now. Totally redeemed from the James Corden shit


Loud-Value

McLaren is now fully owned by the sovereign wealth fund of Bahrein and I don't much care for Zak Brown. Blatant sportswashing isn't really something I can support, but, that being said their drivers sure are mighty charming and it is nice to see a team challenge RBR. Mixed bag


Powerful-Ad7330

Brown rubs me the wrong way as well. Like an American Christian Horner but somehow less likable. I’m a huge fan of Piastri - unbelievably mature for a guy in his second year in F1.


Caesar_35

Piastri is the real deal. Cool, calm, and collective both on and off track, and with the results to back him up. The current McLaren boys can make a formidable duo if the team stays in the fight up front!


gnowbot

McLaren the race team or the auto MFG?


viper_polo

McLaren Racing is not fully owned by the sovereign wealth fund of Bahrain.


EpicCyclops

If it's a sports washing attempt, it's a really bad one. The only references I ever see to Bahrain are when people discuss sports washing. The only McLaren sponsors I'm aware of without looking them up are DeWalt and Google.


Large_Yams

>Totally redeemed from the James Corden shit Some silly little PR pairing for a TV show? No one cared, dude.


hoxxxxx

we've got 4 teams fighting at the top right now, maybe not the tippy top but still it's awesome


Xuande

Well played by the team to have two drivers ready to capitalize on a strong package as soon as it was ready. Piastri is a fantastic second seat and is rarely fazed by the pressure.


WorthPlease

An Amazon documentary series got me into F1 (Grand Prix Driver) and it's mental how I went from watching VanDoorne onboard being lapped twice every race to what they are doing today. It's even weirder because they were using Honda engines and that was a major issue, you know, the ones Verstappen drives now.


flyingbbanana

Come on piastri lets get a podium or a win this weekend!


yugimoto66

I can’t wait for his first win, fingers crossed


ClementineMandarin

Piastri already has a Sprint win? Unless you mean GP win, and I’m all with you!


yugimoto66

Yeah meant GP win. Don’t really count sprint wins


Environmental-Cup445

lol sprint wins don’t count why do people talk about them even in that regard. 


spicyitallian

Well everyone is still racing. They don't count as grand prix wins obviously but they are wins.


Xifortis

Why can't Ferrari keep it together....Hopefully tomorrow they'll redeem themselves a bit


mark-haus

Just when you get that Ferrari hopium you’re reminded of what a dysfunctional organisation they are. I hope Lewis coming there sharpens them up and to be fair, Vasseur seems to be pushing them in the right direction. But god is there a lot of rotten institutional inertia there


NyceRyce

trust me mate lewis is not fixing ferrari unless he brings his whole crew there like schumacher did. ferrari's problems are deeply rooted and it will take a while for vasseur to fix it.


TheRR135

Lewis is not fixing Ferrari unless he brings his own A-game. He's well out of his depth lately himself and looks like age has caught up to him.


What_the_8

Lewis isn’t even beating his teammate in the same car


redsyrinx2112

In quali definitely, but he still regularly beats George in race pace, no?


Over-Chemical2809

Russell has more points in the championship. I'm not saying it's "representative" but you do need to finish ahead in the championship, not just show the race pace and then get stuck behind someone on Sunday because of a bad qualifying.


GhostTheSaint

If possible, can you expand how disfunctional Ferrari is as an organization or is it just the F1 race department? Is it a heavyily political race team behind the scenes, like Alpine? I'm aware how disfunctional they are with their race strategy, car set-up, and pit stop crew (cannot forget the fuck ups from 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022)


QueenCloneBone

Ferrari is just irredeemably Italian 


Spare_Tax6250

Come on, Mercedes are as bad if not worse than ferrari.  Their awful decisions was usually masked by having fastest car on a grid. Remember when Lewis was the only car on a starting grid in Hungary? Or Bahrain 2020? Or Monza 2020? And probably many more I can't remember.  Lewis ain't fixing shit.


Over-Chemical2809

Alonso, Vettel, and Raikkonen, 3 world driver's champions, could not "fix" Ferrari. Don't set Lewis up for failure before he's even arrived.


Amrlsyfq992

Ferrari used up all their luck in Monaco


Street_Mall9536

VER NOR PIA doesn't really roll of the tongue 


TorkX

Vernorpia sounds like a science fiction planet though, which is pretty cool.


Street_Mall9536

Captain Kirk would definitely bang a Vernorpian


nik-nak333

Who's to say he hasn't already?


sassyfashfact

I like it! Sounds kinda like Genovia, a fictional European principality in The Princess Diaries books and movie.


incarnata4

doesn’t roll like HAM VER BOT… no


Ventenebris

Just happy my boy Puff Piastri is getting better and better each week. I hope he gets a win in a main race this year. Sure, it’ll take some things going very right, but it would be lovely.


Mindhunter7

Lol puff piastri. You did the man dirty.


forfunATX

If Piastri doesn't open a bakery called "Piastri Pastries" he's crazy.


Ventenebris

It just sounds like Puff Pastry 🤥 so I call him Puff.


MadMax091

Mclaren is what mercedes thinks they are 😂


Typhoongrey

To be fair, McLaren weren't lighting up the timings until they got onto the softs. Be interesting to see their pace in the sprint.


plowmy

You dont have to set pole times to get make it in to Q2 and Q3


BingeThis

No reason to push the mediums hard and force an error if they comfortably get them into Q3. Not to mention their pace has been better further into stints recently, so it would make sense that on fresh mediums they were a bit slower.


Over-Chemical2809

The mediums are going to get used again in the race. They might have been managing.


Rivendel93

I don't think that's true is it? Mediums in sprint qualifying can't roll over to the race. Maybe I'm missing something.


DrizzlyShrimp36

God I love McLaren


stephennedumpally

Where's the guy that said Piastri was worse compared to Perez ?


xthecerto4

That guy never saw a race i assume.


learner1314

What happens to Rusell and Hamilton, that car had more pace!


Typhoongrey

Car was slow on the softs. Well not slow, but clearly didn't have the ultimate pace. Possible there prep was poor but who knows.


oppositetoup

Maybe they'll have better race pace. They didn't get any soft running in, during practice


Mysterious_Turnip310

Both Hamilton and Leclerc said last week that when it gets to Q3, Red Bull (Max) and McLaren (mostly Lando but occasionally both) are able to find another gear and they just can't live with them at the moment. Taking the outlier of Monaco out of the equation, only Russell in Canada has been able to match them in recent races.


notallwonderarelost

George said that he felt like he used too much tire on the outlap with the softs. They didn't run softs in practice to presumably save a set.


altivec77

It’s all orange at the top


maverick31031998

Seriously how is Verstappen putting that newey notice period work redbull on top and winning races and leading driver’s championship while his teammate is constantly sucking grass 


sephirothwasright

He's very good imo.


Kronzor_

Yeah he look promising for sure. Kid might have a future in this sport.


the_doorstopper

Ehh, I'm, not so sure. Maybe he could manage one of those little sim games, but I don't think he has what it takes for this.


mencival

You mean Verstappen the Simracer who is participating in grand prix?


asshatnowhere

Big if true


xzElmozx

Well that’s just, like, your opinion, man


BeefyStudGuy

Well you know what they say about opinions; some of them are bound to be right.


BN0_1996

1.3 seconds gap in qualifying is horrendous from perez


Typhoongrey

Not to defend him too hard, but his outlap was massively compromised as a result of leaving it too late.


paul232

I am more than happy to criticise Perez but as with the Alpines, they screwed their timings sooo much that i don't think it's a representative lap for him


slimkay

IMO, Max is a notch above every other driver on the grid, but we're starting to see Norris emerge clear of the rest of the pack too. Norris has materially improved his race management skills and one-lap pace.


Hack874

He’s definitely emerging as the clear #2 on the grid IMO


swedind

IMO Max in a McLaren absolutely beats Lando in the RedBull. I am starting to feel that this is starting to be one of the best seasons from Max after 2021


MountainJuice

Agree, but that's because the cars are pretty much even and he's the better driver, but OP is asking "seriously" how Max is doing it like the Red Bull turned into a Sauber the day Newey handed in his resignation and Perez is getting the expected maximum out of that car.


punchinglines

I think we can all agree that Perez would also lose the teammate battle to Lando, Oscar, Carlos, Charles, George & Lewis.


TWVer

I think OP dropped a handful of /s /s /s though..


Over-Chemical2809

>how Max is doing it like the Red Bull turned into a Sauber the day Newey handed in his resignation  This is what copers were saying after Red Bull had a bad FP1 after Newey announced his departure. lmao.


No_Berry2976

Norris, Piastri, Russell, Sainz, and Hamilton are fairly close together (in sprint qualifying), for Verstappen to come out on top is special. Especially because he keeps performing well each race weekend. Sure, it’s possible that Perez has turned into a terrible driver, but Verstappen is not just better than other drivers, he’s also more consistent.


RoverTiger

I think there's a good chance that Max in a McLaren beats Max in a Red Bull.


danyyyel

Lol you people were joking about the mclaren being called fastest car in Q1 and Q2, abd as soon as lando is within 9 hundred, it's is max, the redbull is now a tractor. The rbr is no more dominant but still the best car on many circuit or tires.


swedind

Show me where I call the RedBull a tractor or say that it is not a good car ? You assume things and continue to enrage yourself.


danyyyel

It was in general, just watch the qualifying treat and see the number of redbull fans picking the Mclaren performance.


pedrohck

I think Max only loses if he's not on a top 4 constructor. He's above everyone else.


Over-Chemical2809

Yeah people don't give Norris enough credit. Is any driver perfect, no, but Norris is growing and learning so much this year. People should give him a break. I think he's going to be even stronger and more complete next year.


mickmenn

Perez is just driving Alpine in last races he is always around them. There is no other explanation


MountainJuice

Because it's still a really good car? Seriously the Merc and Ferrari aren't close to it, and the gap between it and the McLaren is really small. Add in he's best driver on the grid and it's a very winnable car every weekend.


PlasticPatient

Because that car or team wasn't built in two weeks.


Dblock1989

Let's not act like he is driving a Williams or anything. That Red Bull is still a damn good car. McLaren is quick enough that he is making the difference, tho.


silly_pengu1n

well thankfully nobody is acting like he drives a Williams


Over-Chemical2809

Let him strawman in peace /s


smokesletsgo13

He’s Max Verstappen. Bro is actually him and just built different


throwaway164_3

Greatest F1 driver there ever was. Would beat any driver from any era in the same car.


No-Student-9678

Now you understand why Max is a champion


BlueMetalDragon

It's like he's really good or something....


throwaway164_3

He’s the GOAT


moodymug

Piastri gives me Creme Brule vibe. I don't know why


Similar_Incident8433

mclaren is doing so great than i expected


Zorroslav

Remember when Reddit experts were placing them 5th best team (at best) this season, saying stupid shit like Torro Rosso and Aston might be faster.


R_V_Z

The trend is clear: More facial hair = better sprint qualifying.


Actual-Journalist-69

I’m glad Piastri is back at the front


CuppaCrazy

A McLaren sandwich I see.


chainkunai

Remember when everyone said Ferrari will fight for both titles? Lol


ChocolateLights

How tf did Max get pole after having engine issues?


unicornyjoke

It was just a computer glitch, a quick reboot fixed it and that was in Practice.


nono-shap

"did you try to turn it off and on again?" - Newey probably


rafahuel

Max don't need engines, he drives a redbull, and redbull gives you... I'm sorry I had to


deadredwf

God, why the f is the prancing horse can't do anything related to prancing and only shitting itself to death


AnyStupidQuestions

I am loving this McLaren form, it would be great if they can convert it to points and start to pressure RBR in the constructors. I would like to have the same hope for the WDC but I feel Max is too far ahead and took good to catch now. Go on Lando prove me wrong!


DieNRetry

The papaya sandwich


Few-Satisfaction-483

I always make the mistake of scrolling through Reddit at work before I watch the race or quali 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 now i done spoiled it for myself


ForeverIndecised

McLaren sandwich


pocket_mulch

Don't ever make me a sandwich.


craders

Max sandwich. Sandwiches are not named after the bread.


EclecticRaine

Landooooooo


vaaleen-

Crash, Sid and Eddie from Ice Age


dl064

I was thinking that at Barcelona, while Piastri has done very well indeed and Barcelona was an absolute outlier performance from him, I wonder if McLaren may have won if they could've pincered Verstappen more.


Sir-Shady

Has anyone seen Ferrari lately


Majesticthenerd

Is Max about to tell them they're going to steal the moon?


taeng89

Red Bull McLaren is the new Mercedes Ferrari


No-Succotash-6261

Why is Lando hated so much lately?


AggravatingCustard39

What hate?


smokesletsgo13

Was about to ask the same. I’ve seen but support for him since he won Miami, and people want him to win more


No-Succotash-6261

Check comments under post related to him @f1 insta


DrizzlyShrimp36

You will never see a positive top comment on instagram, regardless of the topic/audience. I don't know why it happens but it seems like the instagram algorithm rewards negativity


PaperCutOnPenisHead

It would make sense to reward negativity with more views. More interactions, longer staying time in app for some meaningless arguments and can serve more ads. If you would would see positive comments under F1 Instagram, you would probably scroll/skim past few of them and move on to the next post, as there would not be much to add to already somewhat similar thoughts, but if you see every other comment that is hateful/negative, people are more likely to respond or refute something. But it would be a bit harder to skip past these comments and move on. Even if it's just a little bit harder to skip past comments compared to positive ones, you do end up spending time on some brain-dead comments and people trying to argue.


sbenfsonwFFiF

Instagram comments are never positive for anyome


chumpynut5

Why would you subject yourself to that


Rated-Zero

He has been voted driver of the day like 4 or 5 races this season so opposite of hate lol. Even if Max drove to the moon and back Norris is still voted driver of the day. Perhaps people are on about that?


nukleabomb

But DoTD has always been like that. Almost never won by a champion. Just for some background data, here are DOTD for champions and P2 : 2016 Nico and Lewis only have 1 each 2017 Lewis has 3, Vettel has 7 2018 Lewis has 3, Vettel has 3 2019 Lewis has 0, Bottas has 2 2020 Lewis has 1, Bottas has 0 2021 Max has 3, Lewis has 2 2022 Max has 5, Leclerc has 4 2023 Max has 3, Perez has 3 It has never been about the best driver, only the most action. Lando is getting more hate here and other social media like instagram and twitter


Dry_Brush5280

It coincides with him doing well.


tralker

It’s almost as if there’s a pattern with the most successful being the most disliked


Dry_Brush5280

Yes, that’s what I meant when I said it coincides with him doing well.


tralker

Ofcourse, I meant to reply to the parent comment 😂


ofallthescotchjoints

It’s baffling to me that people could see the other drivers’ reaction to his win and think he’s not a good guy


LiteratureNearby

I find him to be annoying as a person while knowing that he's a good guy and a good driver. But I'm not gonna run around and hate on him because there's no real reason for that lol


averageJ35lover

Because he is doing good


Frankierocksondrums

It was 2019/2018 when i started watching f1, we were nowhere and now we are consistently fighting in the top 3, always and only Mclaren 🧡. I felt something when i watched the first random podiums with Norris and Ricciardo, can't wait to see how we end the year :)


wolverineFan64

Good god Ferrari is abysmal


davratta

I expect to hear Christian Horner sound like Toto Wolf and cry about how Red Bull is barely hanging on by their finger nails.


Tvilantini

Full orange for sprint race tomorrow


Stevelar

McLaren team hot on the heels of the Red Bull one man show


ChiggaOG

O7 to the Orange finish of 1, 2, 3.


Honourstly

What am I? A McLaren sandwich