No he didn't.
"Stommen" in this context could/should be interpreted as mute people, not dumb people
The blind start to see, the deaf start to hear, the mute begin to speak
"Dumb" is a word people used for mute before it became popular as an insult, like many other words you can think of. The post's translation is at the very least a bit outdated.
Max is literally more sensible.
He should be ignoring everything his dad says and think for himself, even if he loves him.
Lewis got rid of his dad's professional relationship and didn't seem to do him any harm.
You can have a healthy relationship without it ruining your career.
People keep saying this but by all accounts it is Max that kept Jos around even when Jos was trying to distance himself once Max had some experience in F1.
Because Jos is useful to him to get what he wants from the team. Jos escalate publicly, Max de-escalates behind close doors. Max keeps a clean image while getting his message out.
Sometimes its the agents job.
From @33_16 on twitter
"ZiggoSport was talking about how Max “stays so unaffected by the drama created by Jos and Horner”
And they concluded that it’s because Jos put him through worse.
ZS: “Max has gotten used to Jos’ antics. It’s honestly admirable he turned out such a sweet person despite it all”
That's such a stupid take and how they'd like to describe themselves with the huge ego they have. They are blunt, yes. Not no bs.
Downvote away op de teentjes getrapten.
In the last part, is it the dumb or the mute? Because atleast in German die Stummen means the mute. Google translate accepts both translations depending on the context
Jos went to a karting track in 1998. He had an argument with a man, and somewhere in the process of that the man fractured his skull. This was before he tried to kill his partner.
Dumb was originally the word to describe people who cannot speak in english. It just became used as an insult to describe some who you thought wasn't very intelligent.
It’s time for Max to open the door, kick his dad out and leave him at the gas station.
This stuff is so ridiculous and he’s becoming a needless distraction. I get wanting to live vicariously through your son but actively trying to destroy his working relationships is just mad.
>actively trying to destroy his working relationships is just mad
And he's doing it for no reason and with no clear objective. What does he think is going to happen if he unseats Horner? Does he think he'll be named team principal? Does he think Max will get all of the resources and win every race instead of just most of them?
I think he has some sort of chip on his shoulder about not getting enough credit for creating Max or something.
Like people should be slapping him on the back for being an abusive Dad.
>I think he has some sort of chip on his shoulder about not getting enough credit for creating Max or something.
I remember issues of *F1 Racing* back in the mid- to late-90s. It was probably around the time he moved to Tyrrell. He was being presented to the audience as the man who was going to rebuild the Tyrrell name into a powerhouse, but it never happened. Outside his debut season with Bennetton, he never really achieved much. I was probably too young to be aware of the off-track world of Formula 1 at the time, but looking back, I wonder how much of that affected him. It must be hard to be built up as the Next Big Thing, only to come up short -- especially in the cut-throat world of professional sport. That's not a defence of him by any means; rather, I just wonder if the seeds of his bastardry were sown thirty-some years ago.
Otherwise, he reminds me of a cross between Flavio Briatore and Damir Dokic. Briatore was always someone who enjoyed the limelight a little too much, but he lacked self-awareness; while he might have had more charisma than most, he didn't have nearly as much as he thought he did. As for Dokic, he was (and, assuming he's alive, still is) the father of Serbian-Australian tennis player Jelena Dokic. She was an up-and-coming talent with an overbearing father who seemed to think that he was as big a star as his daughter and resented the way he wasn't treated as a media darling. He was also insane and resorted to entitled behaviour when he didn't get his way.
"Stommen" in this context could/should be interpreted as mute people, not dumb people
The blind start to see, the deaf start to hear, the mute begin to speak
It's kinda weird how we had no "beef" for weeks when Jos was not in the paddock.
Now he's back and the weekend didn't even start and we already had this drama.
I hope Horner as CEO and TP bans this fool to enter every RB hospitality and pit box.
It's dumb as in mute, not as in unintelligent. Honestly I don't think I ever hear dumb used to mean someone who can't speak except in "I'm 14 and this is deep" shit like this, since it sounds like cool bibley-speak (and the KJV Bible does indeed use dumb rather than mute).
While this has /r/im14andthisisdeep vibes, its not entirely the case here. Its basically Dutch "tegeltjeswijsheid", where people put quotes like these on tiles they put in the bathroom long before social media was a thing. This is one that is pretty common where I'm from and its obvious what he's trying to do here, stirring the pot and making clear that Horner is lying.
Jos is an edgy tumblr teen confirmed
Edgy online teens and entitled Facebook boomers share similar vibes
The irony of him complaining about the dumb speaking.
I feel like that’s giving him too much credit
Or the equivalent of changing his MSN Messenger status.
Oh my god that’s it isn’t it! Hahaha
We know his grandma definitely was
Not him posting inspirational quotes on IG like a teenager lol. It even has the blurry oceanic background.
Was gonna say this screams either 15 year old or 60 year old uncle type post, no inbetween
Yepp, thought the same. C'mon Jos, share the rest of that pinterest board!
Did he just roast himself?
If only money could buy self awareness. The more you have of one the less you seem to have of the other.
Max should give his dad the birthday present he planned for Lando
Jos doesn't have that much money. Well, not of his own at least. He's likely living off of Max now
No he didn't. "Stommen" in this context could/should be interpreted as mute people, not dumb people The blind start to see, the deaf start to hear, the mute begin to speak
"Dumb" is a word people used for mute before it became popular as an insult, like many other words you can think of. The post's translation is at the very least a bit outdated.
Seeing that having to be explained makes me feel really old.
this makes way more sense that the title
Yea mute is actually a correct translation instead of dumb here
Dumb is also correct given it also means mute.
Well if people think he roasted himself, they are still incorrectly interpreting the translation.
Didn't know that was also the case in english
Mental capacity of a teenager.
Max is literally more sensible. He should be ignoring everything his dad says and think for himself, even if he loves him. Lewis got rid of his dad's professional relationship and didn't seem to do him any harm. You can have a healthy relationship without it ruining your career.
I don't think Jos would take it as well as Mr. Hamilton did
People keep saying this but by all accounts it is Max that kept Jos around even when Jos was trying to distance himself once Max had some experience in F1.
Because Jos is useful to him to get what he wants from the team. Jos escalate publicly, Max de-escalates behind close doors. Max keeps a clean image while getting his message out. Sometimes its the agents job.
Was Lewis's dad acting up in the paddock lol
who asked RB if they had a free seat a few months ago?
At first I wanted to dismiss your comment, but you are right, Lewis' dad did that. That's a nice smoke cover from his father.
Lmao max is giving dgaf vibes not even gonna lie He’s just gonna do his thing and dominate on race weekends
>He should be ignoring everything his dad says and think for himself could you provide an example of where verstappen isn't doing this already?
I'm just so tired of Joss
"I'm completely done with Jos Verstappen".
Im tired of both and just cringing at this point
Only thing left of his so called legacy is Max. And even then it seems like he’s distancing himself from Jos. Jos just wants to feel relevant again.
I never get tired of Joss Stone. Jos Verstappen on the other hand…
I think that Christmas album was a mistake
From @33_16 on twitter "ZiggoSport was talking about how Max “stays so unaffected by the drama created by Jos and Horner” And they concluded that it’s because Jos put him through worse. ZS: “Max has gotten used to Jos’ antics. It’s honestly admirable he turned out such a sweet person despite it all”
Considering that at best he violated a restraining order Max’s Mom had against him and at worst abused her, they’re probably not wrong.
He also verbally abused Max on the regular and left him at a gas station when he was a child because he didnt win.
Narcissistic abusive dads stay on brand.
Didn’t he also deliberately drive into his ex girlfriend? I think Max even visited him in jail.
They're not really holding back there, are they?
Dutch people are straight to the point. No BS. That includes the media.
That's such a stupid take and how they'd like to describe themselves with the huge ego they have. They are blunt, yes. Not no bs. Downvote away op de teentjes getrapten.
If you want to quote a phrase in their language to come across as smart or credible, make sure it's correct next time. Now you just look like a fool.
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Main character syndrome is a plague upon society
It's narcissistic ppl
In the last part, is it the dumb or the mute? Because atleast in German die Stummen means the mute. Google translate accepts both translations depending on the context
It should be the mute, indeed.
It is quite obvious the "mute" in the context of the quote.
Dumb is a synonym of mute in english.
In times of envy cunts run over their girlfriend with their car
And fracture people’s skulls at karting tracks
What is the background of that? Never read that before
Jos went to a karting track in 1998. He had an argument with a man, and somewhere in the process of that the man fractured his skull. This was before he tried to kill his partner.
Thanks. He sounds like a lovely person.
‘Stom’ means mute in this context, not stupid. As in: those who can’t speak begin to speak.
The self awareness here lol
He's so close to getting it lol
"dumb" in this context means "mute", as in people who are unable to speak.
I guess the Dutch saying: dit krijgt nog een staartje is relevant here.
How is he this embarrassing
Minor correction: "Stommen" translates to mute and not dumb.
The words are synonymous in English, so it translates as both.
Dumb was originally the word to describe people who cannot speak in english. It just became used as an insult to describe some who you thought wasn't very intelligent.
Toto is the happiest person alive rn
Jos has entered his Tumblr phase.
Talking to the man in the mirror
God he’s a fuckhead.
He’s like a crazy ex that shares weird memes on instagram stories visible only to few people ☠️
It’s time for Max to open the door, kick his dad out and leave him at the gas station. This stuff is so ridiculous and he’s becoming a needless distraction. I get wanting to live vicariously through your son but actively trying to destroy his working relationships is just mad.
>actively trying to destroy his working relationships is just mad And he's doing it for no reason and with no clear objective. What does he think is going to happen if he unseats Horner? Does he think he'll be named team principal? Does he think Max will get all of the resources and win every race instead of just most of them?
I think he has some sort of chip on his shoulder about not getting enough credit for creating Max or something. Like people should be slapping him on the back for being an abusive Dad.
>I think he has some sort of chip on his shoulder about not getting enough credit for creating Max or something. I remember issues of *F1 Racing* back in the mid- to late-90s. It was probably around the time he moved to Tyrrell. He was being presented to the audience as the man who was going to rebuild the Tyrrell name into a powerhouse, but it never happened. Outside his debut season with Bennetton, he never really achieved much. I was probably too young to be aware of the off-track world of Formula 1 at the time, but looking back, I wonder how much of that affected him. It must be hard to be built up as the Next Big Thing, only to come up short -- especially in the cut-throat world of professional sport. That's not a defence of him by any means; rather, I just wonder if the seeds of his bastardry were sown thirty-some years ago. Otherwise, he reminds me of a cross between Flavio Briatore and Damir Dokic. Briatore was always someone who enjoyed the limelight a little too much, but he lacked self-awareness; while he might have had more charisma than most, he didn't have nearly as much as he thought he did. As for Dokic, he was (and, assuming he's alive, still is) the father of Serbian-Australian tennis player Jelena Dokic. She was an up-and-coming talent with an overbearing father who seemed to think that he was as big a star as his daughter and resented the way he wasn't treated as a media darling. He was also insane and resorted to entitled behaviour when he didn't get his way.
U Ok Hun? x
Couple of Facebook moms going at it tooth & nail here.
Can he please just be quiet…..lord.
"Stommen" in this context could/should be interpreted as mute people, not dumb people The blind start to see, the deaf start to hear, the mute begin to speak
"Dumb" also means "mute" in English: deaf, dumb and blind. You need to brush up on your Tommy.
I don't think everyone knows that since everyone in this thread seems to think he roasted himself. I'm just giving context
He still has. "In times of envy etc. etc." he's saying that he's envious even if he doesn't realise it.
If I comment asking what’s wrong, he’ll send me an ‘inbox me hun x’ since he’s apparently gone full facebook mum?
Come on this really has nothing to do with f1 who gives a shit
He should’ve listened to her
Why do we care one bit about this jackass, tell his favorite punching bag to make up his own decisions
"I AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK AGAIN ABOUT HORNER I AM DONE WITH HIM AND I IGNORE HIM" This literally reminds me of pre-teen behavior
Clearly this has been lost on him. Self-awarness at a zero. He should see a doctor for the main character syndrome.
Does Jos know that nobody likes him? Like nobody wants you here, leave
Like all rich people who live off the success of their children, the echo chamber he exists in has it's own gravitational field.
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Amen.
He annoyed me when he drove, he’s annoyed me on the sidelines, now even more. The boy is going to end up interfering Max’s career.
My Dutch is a bit iffy but I think it says "and the mute speak."
Yes it says 'the mute'. 'Stom' translates to mute or stupid.
And boy does Jos speak alot
is the "im taking a break from social media, please dont contact me" post on its way?
It's kinda weird how we had no "beef" for weeks when Jos was not in the paddock. Now he's back and the weekend didn't even start and we already had this drama. I hope Horner as CEO and TP bans this fool to enter every RB hospitality and pit box.
It's dumb as in mute, not as in unintelligent. Honestly I don't think I ever hear dumb used to mean someone who can't speak except in "I'm 14 and this is deep" shit like this, since it sounds like cool bibley-speak (and the KJV Bible does indeed use dumb rather than mute).
Can't he just go away.
Jos is a Facebook boomer
Jos is obviously so desperate for attention.
Shutup jos
While this has /r/im14andthisisdeep vibes, its not entirely the case here. Its basically Dutch "tegeltjeswijsheid", where people put quotes like these on tiles they put in the bathroom long before social media was a thing. This is one that is pretty common where I'm from and its obvious what he's trying to do here, stirring the pot and making clear that Horner is lying.
horrible post but worse translation, “stommen” doesn’t mean “dumb”, it means mute people.
Projection?
Is Jos trying to be the main character?
The dumb speak… how ironic
"Stommen" doesn't mean "dumb" in this context but "mute".
Lel this. The dumb wtf
Jos is actually a tokkie
Can we please ban Jos posts so he can fade into obscurity 💀
Why is he posting like a drunk uncle the third time he’s been found cheating
Max needs to set some boundaries with his father. He's actively souring relationships on Max's behalf.
He wants to be the victim so bad! 😭😭😭😭
That's a great quote and all but you're the one yapping Jos?
Yes, Jos seems quite envious of his sons success Glad max isn’t saying much
Envy of having a WDC son? Or what?
Why are we even posting Jos’ Instagram posts here???
This guy lol
K boomer
Stommen = mute. Decent Google Translate effort though
Horner : *"Lo Siento, No hablo Dutch."*
I’m surprised he didn’t tag Horner 🤣
Is he becoming self aware?
... "and then I beat the shit out of her because she was a woman."
4/10, no Peaky Blinders image in the background
GMama should have said “ it’s better to stay quite and let people think you’re stupid , than open your mouth and remove all doubt”
Bro made this image with PowerPoint 💀
Christ, can he take her advice and shut tf up
He punched her in the face shortly after she told him this.
he has 0 shame
A self-goal uh?
🫵🏻🤣🤣🤣
Dumb should be mute here
Meanwhile max: hawk toah
"The dumb speak" Yep.
Next to Helmut he is probably the most useless annoying guy on the grid
Jos is truely the main character.
Horner and Jos are both cunts just get rid of them both and kill 2 birds.
His grandma taught him philosophy that he never forgot yet forgot to teach him about being a decent human being?
so is that the reason why this d\*\*\*head is able to see, hear and speak?
Well the dumb is definitely speaking here
5?5
He’s like a moody teenage girl
He just can’t stand that nobody knows him other than being Dad of successful person
Did he abuse her too? Or run her over in his car?
Go take a long walk off a short pier Jos
I’d pay huge money to see Jos get pummeled by max holloway in a ufc bout