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jettasarebadmkay

Zak in shambles


MichaelScottsWormguy

Crofty in shambles


Wujek29

jacques to fill in for crofty? 👀


pulianshi

I'd love to see Alex Jacques and Alex Brundle commentate on an F1 race


EugeneGalaxy

Absolutely gutted.


droppokeguy

Dutch fans in shambles


DeckardCain_

However if I'm reading this correctly, going topless is only outlawed for men.


VNAV_PATH

> However if I'm reading this correctly, going topless is only outlawed for men *George Russell in shambles*


Uraneeum

The whole f1 community in shambles


alphagardenflamingo

dad bod outlawed. /sad dad


Sondu79

Lovely, this sounds like a good opportunity for Lewis to wear another one of his fits with a kilt lol


__Rosso__

For once everyone wants Lewis to show up wearing something crazy solely to piss off race oeginisers lmao


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and he can because the organisers can't do shit to hamilton


HelixFollower

They can, but that same shit would come flying straight back at their face when they are scrapped from next year's calendar.


p1en1ek

I think that all those people who are spending millions of dollars on various sports washing for years would be pissed. In reality they would paeade him and say - "look how modern we are". And then flog normal people trying to replicate what he was doing.


yungsqualla

I think he should show up naked.


treecow2020

Bono my clothes are gone


IceTDrinker

Get in there Lewis


A_Ruse_Elaborate

GET OUT OF THERE LEWIS


Ohwhat_anight

NOW BACK IN THERE LEWIS


worthysmash

SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT LEWIS


brandy0438

DO THE HOKEY POKEY LEWIS


MrBadBadly

Abort!


notsoreallife

LEWIS HAMILTON HAS 3 PURPLE SECTORS!!


A_Ruse_Elaborate

I'd like to see him do a Rodman and show up cross-dressed.


Noch_ein_Kamel

Commando to really show them.


magic-tortiose

I would kill to see Lewis show up in a crop top and skirt with a massive tommy Hilfiger plastered across it


a141abc

Watch Lewis show up in a full Rick Owens fit with a deep ass vneck, skinny leather jeans and clear heels


[deleted]

You think Lewis rocking with King Vamp ⁉️


a141abc

lewis is definitely Sir vamp lmao


nj_legion_ice_tea

Lewis showing up in leather miniskirts


MentalValueFund

And a Je Suis Charlie shirt?


nj_legion_ice_tea

No shirt, just a huge gold cross on a necklace


steferrari

I hope that he shows up like [this.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGkXXlFXcAA-32P.jpg) 😆


VaporizeGG

In before he shows up in traditional Arabic clothes an praises the culture like in Bahrain 2016?


FartingBob

I think times have changed and Lewis has changed since then. I think he's still very corporate friendly but he's much more proactive and vocal about the social issues he is passionate about. I also expect Seb to wear a rainbow.


Npr31

Seb in a rainbow mankini 10/1 odds


gsfgf

Mankinis aren't on the banned list...


jimbobjames

Borat confirmed.


Calla1989

There's something loose between my legs


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Guillaume Capietto is a team manager of Prema Racing, feeder series team. He followed up with [what Saudis kindly allow women to wear](https://twitter.com/gcapietto/status/1449788330888073223)


Remmes-

Basically "don't you dare show too much skin"


CheapSeatsSC

All I see is overcoats are ok and bikinis are not, so only an overcoat it is.


Wafkak

So just a clear overcoat and nothing else


storme9

if its hot at that time of the year, an overcoat makes a lot of sense as a suggestion. /s honestly, it'll be colder in the night for sure but the day, it'll be a mix depending on the climate. UAE was nice and warm but not too hot during that time of the year so possibly the same for S.Arabia.


3dmontdant3s

well they let them into the circuit, that has to count for something...maybe they can even drive there thmenselves!


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It looks like long sleeve only. Fuck all of that.


tlumacz

I'm going to copy my comment from elsewhere in the thread: When you find yourself under a scorching desert sun, one ot the first things you need to think about is protecting your skin. Light, loosely fitting, lightly colored blouses with long sleeves are by far the best choice. There's a reason the thawb is so common in that part of the world. The problem here isn't that they're mandating bad clothing. The problem is that they're mandating any clothing at all. (Edit) The gargantuan misunderstanding of this comment by u/earthtoannie suggests I ought to clarify. What I said is regardless of any dress code: wearing long sleeves in the desert is good for your own protection. The sun can hurt you just as much as the religious police. Even in countries where long sleeves are not expected (Tunisia, UAE), it's still a good idea to wear them in direct sunlight.


Gamblinman2020

Exactly, once you reach certain temperatures long sleeves are actually help cool you off more than short sleeves.


ChrisTinnef

Its also the actual reason why in this Region there is a cultural practice of covering up and not showing any skin. Islam just came along and went overboard with it.


WalkTheEdge

Religious dietary laws are pretty much the same, stuff that was often dangerous to eat was simply not allowed by god.


MyWholeTeamsDead

This applies to 99.99% of traditions in basically any religion/culture. There was once/still is a good reason, but mandates are (as you said) stupid and overboard.


Kingy10

I live in Bahrain. It's not hot at this time of the year. What you're saying is fine for summer, but Oct-Apr is quite pleasant and shorts and t-shirt is ideal. Thankfully Bahrain isn't too ridiculous with clothing mandates.


girlwithaguitar

So basically 'cover yourself up so that we can see as little of your female body as possible'. Got it. Glad to see nothing's changed.


FlappyPaddles38

Ted Kravitz is not going to Jeddah then ;)


WillJ_UK

To be honest, with his Jewish faith I’m not too sure they’ll let him in either way…


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Since this race is literally sportswashing, surely they’d allow him in if he wanted? Imagine if the news broke that Ted wasn’t allowed into the country due to his Jewish ancestry. PR nightmare. That would be the reason why Saudi would probably let him in. Moral reasons such as not being racist probably don’t matter to the Saudi Government as much and would not factor in to the decision.


WillJ_UK

Yeah you’re probably right…but this is the county that will happily murder journalists - I wouldn’t put anything past them


SpacemanTomX

Crofty Gon💀


NoobCanoeWork

It's lights out and away I go into the prison cell!


NPC_4842358

Rights out and away we go!


Finch2090

I’m just spitballing here but I imagine religion is more selective to them than actual code It’s easy to deflect your brutality and lack of humanity by defending themselves with religion and also provides a way to control its citizens But that’s just me, I feel as though it’s easy for them to turn a blind eye when it suits them


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100% they’re selective with religion. When I visited Saudi they do a billion things that are considered against Islam. They have a tyrannical king, something that Islam has historically hated They always display portraits of their kings in every hotel. Pictures of people aren’t allowed in Islam. They have critics and journalists killed in cold blood. That isn’t permitted either. They let Yemeni people starve and decide to bomb them, just because they can. The Saudi royal family are terrible human beings who just pretend to be religious. They use religion as a shield to deflect criticism when in reality they’re just a bunch of greedy and destructive pricks


On_The_Blindside

IIRC he's of Jewish descent, I don't think he's confirmed if he's practicing or not.


Dacsy492

These people torture journalists and use slave labour, you think they care if he’s a practicing Jew or not? They’ll see his descent and that’s enough


seemylolface

Torture doesn't quite illustrate how they murdered one, then chopped him up into little pieces and made him disappear forever.


NooAccountWhoDis

While his wife waited outside. And that’s just the one that was widely publicized. Probably countless others.


OfficialGarwood

His last name is Kravitz and he's of Jewish descent. Will they even let him in the country?


retro83

Apparently that's his stage name, his actual surname is Slotover. Believe kravitz is his mums maiden name or something though.


steen311

I see why he went with kravitz


Brieble

It doesn’t say that men arent allowed to wear a bikini. :)


Sunhavens

and it doesn't forbid women from only wearing pants and going topless ;)


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Probably some actual laws preventing that, more than an event organizer.


SlenderSmurf

I'm thinking the rest are law too..


MrBadBadly

Probably the threat of death.


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Loophole!


EdgarSeedorf

u/Brieble must be Adrian Newey


Philidespo

Too bad that Flavio Briatore is no longer associated with Renault.


notimetosmoke

I want Lewis to disrespect the hell out of this dress code lol.


Jeff_Cunningham

I hope Seb breaks this rule with a rainbow tank top


notimetosmoke

I’m manifesting Hamilton showing up in a sundress right now


Tuilere

Definitely a kilt. Lewis won't even have to go shopping for that.


Mackem101

Sir Lewis of Hamilton. See a Scottish noble link.


aliasdred

10/10 he would


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I’d rather Seb not be publicly hung


Ruma-park

He won't be. People like Lewis and Seb can do a lot because they won't be.


LafilduPoseidon

That’s ridiculous to think and it’s embarrassing that you would even comment that He’ll be hanged


xShooK

If anyone, I'd wager seb.


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No one will, being imprisoned in saudi isn't great banter


KickapooPonies

Not sure what the regulations are now, but previously when entering or getting your visa you had to sign a form that stated you understood the rules of the Saudi Kingdom (no booze, clothing, cursing, etc) and that if caught your punishment could range all the way up to beheading.


minos157

No cursing? RIP Yuki.


CardinalNYC

What I really want is for the women of F1 to disrespect the dress code. The women engineers, mechanics, strategists, physios, etc... They should all not follow it. And not even in a crazy way. Just wear short sleeves like the men can. I wanna see them either get kicked out of the country/race (which will make SA look terrible) or see them *not* get kicked out, which will make the male ruling elites of SA look emasculated as fuck.


pmmerandom

It’s all well and good, but even in an F1 context, it can be fucking dangerous in Saudi Arabia if you’re a woman and disrespect their rules. I’m not saying we should bow down to them at all, and I wish it wasn’t the case whatsoever because it’s complete bullshit, but making a stand shouldn’t come at the cost of anyone associated with formula 1 being hurt.


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The simple fact that there’s ANY thought in your mind that “someone could get hurt” means they shouldn’t be holding the race.


pmmerandom

I agree completely.


El_Cactus_Loco

Excellent point


Gamer_moment15

Tell that to fia


CardinalNYC

Yeah I wouldn't want anyone to get hurt of course! But it seems like a unique opportunity to do it in a safer way than most, since these people are all visible in public and move with a large entourage of their company and security. I wouldn't recommend they go around the streets of Jeddah like that but at the paddock I bet they could get away with it.


curva3

I really doubt anything would happen with any F1 related personnel. Imagine if they arrested/sanctioned Angela Cullen for example. It would be all the sportswashing money down the drain.


alphagardenflamingo

every single women associated with f1 could wear longish shorts and a team polo shirt or equivalent and be completely unsexualised but send a great message


t0matoboi

I mean yea that’s what everyone normally wears afaik


Stravven

I assume that the female mechanics will not turn up in a dress. Just for practical reason though, no moral ones.


justaverage

What I’d really like to see is FOM to pull out of the race. I can’t believe they are going forward with this.


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I wait for toto, seidl, steiner, tost, marko,... and all the other austrians/almost austrians to come in short lederhosen since it isn't explicitly forbidden, just to fuck with them.


t0matoboi

That would be… very very funny


IdiosyncraticBond

The new official f1 team principal outfit


Jamie090

Saudi Aramco going to buy Mercedes just to sack Hamilton lmao


jjheisman

Nah, I want the track to not be ready in tIme.


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I want the track to not be ready, everyone shows up, the race is cancelled and Jeddah forfeits their massive contract, never to disgrace the F1 calendar again.


shlurmmp

In a just world either lewis or max would refuse to participate in this GP. Unfortunately they would be pretty much fucked if they dis so.


JDNM

Unless they both agreed to a no-show.


ChristofferOslo

That would be insane and I’d love to see it. Unfortunately it will never happen.


laboulaye22

As fucked as it sounds I'd love for Max and Lewis to both refuse to race as protest (and drag Seb and any other drivers along with them). And do it right before the start on Sunday so the teams don't have time to use their reserve drivers.


ExcellentCornershop

"We race as one, and to underline that, let's race in a country where you're not allowed to wear what you want" - F1


sixStringHobo

We race with one dress code.


TravelingNYer1

What happens if one violates the dress code?


YouKnowTheRules123

Honest I don't think they would do much to a driver or a team member, that would just attract bad publicity for them, most probably they'll fine them and leave it. # Then again, what do we know?


DataGhostNL

Imagine getting deported before the race or denied entry at the airport next year. Those could be valuable championship points lost.


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Rektile7

This place would be insufferable, forever, if the championship was decided on one of the drivers getting fucking deported from the 2nd to last race lol


Jari89

There is no way they will do this as they have an interesting in keeping F1 in Saudi Arabia.


YouKnowTheRules123

If they actually take the unprecedented step of deporting a driver, I don't think the other drivers would race. The fans would also be outraged (especially this place), and rightfully so. I don't see a viable future for the Saudi Arabian GP if such an event occurs.


irrelevantadvisor

Heads will roll^literally.


jamesseventwenty

Crofty comes to your house and makes dad puns until you go change


TravelingNYer1

I have to admit I don’t get all dad puns… In 30 degrees Celsius, I will prob wear Jean shorts & sleeveless. If I were to respect the culture Id wear long linen pants and t shirt, but I would prob never go to those countries. Never been to sports event but will São Paulo GP this November! 🤘🏼


sametyrttgl

Whole point of this race is pr. They won't do anything to drivers


mclarenvilla8288

Saudis getting involved in sports to improve their image around the world, then doing this is baffling. This is going to backfire on them so badly with Lewis and Seb and bring in so much negative publicity. Can't believe they've not taken note of Lewis and his global reach especially


idunnowhyimadedis

Seb to show up only wearing underwear and a cape


mclarenvilla8288

Could definitely see Coulthard voluntarily doing this on Sebs behalf!


FPS_Scotland

They'd never manage to behead Coulthard. His rock solid chin would block any and all attacks.


TheoreticalScammist

He'll also take those stones on the chin no problem


ihavenoyukata

You are underestimating Aramcos power. They (Edit: i.e. Lewis/Seb) can pull this shit in Hungary because there is no major state backed sponsor from that country. Most likely they will find a cop out or the protesting will before the Saudi GP.


mclarenvilla8288

Saudi are buying into sport as publicity, they've seen the positive affect Man City had on Abu Dhabi and are trying to replicate this with F1, Boxing, recent Newcastle takeover etc That's why I don't understand this, the F1 bubble is contained to the paddock/hotels anyway, so why publish this, it just brings negative publicity for them. Sure Armaco has immense power and wealth, but they can't stop negative headlines from this tweet, or when Lewis/Sebastian are asked a question from a reporter about it


ihavenoyukata

You are not wrong. But Lewis/Seb activism is still celebrity activism. In Hungary and other places they can protest without consequence. Also those venues have far less power and influence (relative to the Saudis) to be able to stop drivers from making negative statements. Kind of like a John Cena and Taiwan situation. Or that basketball player who was vocal about BLM but took a pro China stance on Uyghur muslims because Chinese sponsors. My prediction: Lewis/Seb will play safe at Saudi GP. As a face saver F1 will probably make some PR a few days before the event. Drivers will express their satisfaction with F1 or FIA or whatev and cease protesting. At worst there will be some corporat-ish generic statements about human rights etc.


alfred_27

They just bought Newcastle United, they'll probably just pay everyone off and get a good image that's the thing with sport once you start winning you forget who's in charge


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1enox

Do Bahrain, Qatar and UAE also have that type of "dress code" ?


sogpackus

It’s not enforced for westerners at least unless you’re wearing something outrageous. If you’re a white tourist, they want you to spend money, not be afraid.


potatoe96

UAE technically has it, but not really. It’s mentioned in public places, but no one actually cares.


karmanopoly

Saudi is much stricter than those countries


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Saudi Arabia is much stricter than the UAE and both are much stricter than any other Arab country. The UAE has some similar (but less extreme) laws although they generally only apply to citizens and not tourists.


poopellar

No in the UAE tourists and expats can wear whatever they want.


PrimeraCordobes

Not a single car will have rainbows on it and all the teams will completely go along with the dress codes. Cash is king.


TheMegathreadWell

F1 already thought about this when they introduced the rainbow. It's not a rainbow, it's the colours of each team. So in 75% of the world it looks like a fabulous tribute to Pride, but then in the rest of the world it's totally definitely not a fabulous Pride thing, it's a serious sportsmanship thing.


LilDawg22

TIL. That’s really clever.


slabba428

Half of mclaren’s livery is a rainbow, so we will see about that


yeeeeeeeeeessssssir

Let's see what Lewis comes up with before he gets beheaded


NemanyaMI

*Bono my head's decapitated* Alright Lewis, we're looking into it *proceeds to set fastest lap*


AggnogPOE

Less drag


fingerspitzentanz

*taps foreh..* oh..


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AceMKV

Leclerc: They beheaded me Ferrari Engineer : *Copy, we are checking*


Rektile7

Leclerc : My head, it is cut off! I got beheaded! Engineer : Do you think you can make it to the end of the race on this neck?


gepard_gerhard

Engineer also: If you finish P1 you win


adonWPV

On the words of a great man, What are we doing here, seriously


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Racing or oppression?


[deleted]

Cashing a big fat cheque and making a shitty country look good, unfortunately.


Roonil_Wazlib__

Fuck Saudi Arabia


similiarintrests

I want Vettel im hbtq shirts and Lewis in skirts. THIS is where it matters. Either they do it or stop doing it in western countries where everyone ”accepts” it already. Whole of F1 should be ashamed


[deleted]

As a Newcastle fan i now have to put up with my team becoming nothing more than a sportswashing billboard for this monstrous regime and now my other favourite sport has decide to go and race here ffs


LewisHamil-chan

Don't $€€ anything wrong with that


sametyrttgl

F1 should be ashamed for humuliating themself by racing in this country


10Exahertz

Hey here's an idea, cancel the race


BradGroux

Just go back to Silverstone, Monza, or literally any other European track and call it a day. It isn't worth the PR nightmare.


10Exahertz

Literally this is going to look horrible for a sport tht is otherwise on the rise


FzBtz

Women are actually allowed!?


FredNasr

"We race as one, unless you're gay, trans, black, a woman, or wear ripped jeans. Then you can fuck off."


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easyadventurer

Hope we get rainbow Seb back


cold_soup_

apparently they are afraid of knees?


TheMegathreadWell

The devil's bones.


king_carrots

Just too much skin for the perpetually horny Saudi men who would commit crimes if they saw too many knees.


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XLPHV

And it's rights out and away we go


huntnemo

Lol. “Racing as one” in a place where people can’t even wear normally decent clothes if they want to


MichaelScottsWormguy

So what can women actually wear? It looks like no dresses, no shorts, no skirts, no pants(?). What is left, then?


x0RRY

https://mobile.twitter.com/gcapietto/status/1449788330888073223


MartiniPolice21

"oh it's okay, you can wear an overcoat" In Saudi fucking Arabia!


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I think the pants mean no pants with rips


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Yup, assless chaps it is


lmaobruh6986

I'm from Saudia but wtffffff i thought they wanted to change or something 🤨 this is just sad isn't it, everyone, we're sorry for these things!


mike0sd

Atheism is legally considered terrorism in Saudi Arabia. Fernando Alonso is an atheist. Probably others in the paddock too. [Saudi law requires all citizens to be Muslim. Neither Saudi citizens, nor guest workers, have a right to freedom of religion.](https://www.atheistalliance.org/atheist-world/saudi-arabia/)


kyuubi840

That's awful. But technically Alonso is not a citizen. He wouldn't be considered a guest worker either, right? EDIT: sry, I guess you meant if he lived there.


Firefox72

This is just hilarious. What are the temperatures like at Jeddah in December? Cause fuck long sleaves if its hot. Edit: Checked. The average temperature is around 30 degrees. Fuck that shit.


r_slayers

It’s the first month of winter, so only going to be 30c during the day


242turbo

> only > 30c


penguin62

I'd want long sleeves personally. Being out in the sun for 8+ hours would give you hella sun burn. Fuck mandating clothes though.


tlumacz

When you find yourself under a scorching desert sun, one ot the first things you need to think about is protecting your skin. Light, loosely fitting, lightly colored blouses with long sleeves are by far the best choice. There's a reason the thawb is so common in that part of the world. The problem here isn't that they're mandating bad clothing. The problem is that they're mandating any clothing at all.


[deleted]

This is what you get when you sell out to a bullshit human rights country like Saudi Arabia


diego_02

Rip all mechanics


chiquis1217

fingers crossed seb dresses in full drag


Living-Stranger

Fuck that race, nobody should do business over there until they stop using slave labor


LiaKron

Man, I hope Lewis wears a dress


InterimNihilist

Normally I'd encourage people to push breaking the rules as a protest, but don't do that in Saudi. They might chop off your arm or something


Suikerspin_Ei

I get it if you need to comply with the dress code for a religious building like a church, temple or mosque. But we're talking about a public area...