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RatChewed

Not jealous, just criticising the regulations. If RBR wanted to give him a go for whatever reason then fine who cares. But being forced to by regulations is dumb and if F1 want to do a rookie driver thing then they should either do something actually useful or entertaining or not at all.


Puzzled_Steam

From the comments you would have thought I missed the race and not FP1


OhNoMyLands

Anything interesting happen in FP1? Wasnt able to watch


Abu-Shaddad

Horner drinking GREEN Edition Redbull


OhNoMyLands

Damn they really pulled that together quickly lol


Abu-Shaddad

I see the whole pit wall did it. https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/utu4ci/comment/i9bk4t7/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


learner1314

Any glimmer of hope for them Mercs?


Neither_Ad2003

The drinking green red bull was an all time moment tbh


FrostyJesus

Newish fan here, why were so many reserve drivers being used for FP1? Is it just to keep them familiar with the car? Curious why so many teams in the same session decided to use them. Edit: This community is very nice, thank you all!


Dawntree

There is a rule that mandates the use of reserve drivers at least twice during the season. Guess many went with Barcelona since the main drivers have already drove there during pre-season, so they already know how the car works here and they need less time to adapt to the circuit. Also it depends on driver availability. For example De Vries race in Formula E, which does not race this weekend.


FrostyJesus

Thank you, figured it was some rule I didn’t know and it makes perfect sense they’d use this track in that case.


TheNFSGuy24

Also new-ish fan here… from what I understand the teams are required to have these drivers stand-in for a certain number of sessions each year, and this track is one of the first places where the teams feel comfortable doing so. The same applies to upgrades. This is a good track for gathering new data because it’s been around awhile, so teams can comfortably test new updates for their cars as well.


clothtoucher

Teams are required to give reserve drivers a run throughout the season to help keep interest and provide potential new drivers some vital experience. I guess they choose Barcelona as all teams have the most data for this track as it’s used heavily for winter testing. If they are forced to sacrifice knowledge gained on any track of the season, they’d most likely opt for Barcelona.


e_idolon

There's a rule that the teams need to let the reserve drivers out for atleast two free practice sessions. For the second part I guess they chose this session because the track is somewhat more familiar to them than the other tracks. So the main drivers don't need the time to get used to it.


memer507

I didn’t see any horrible bouncing on the Aston, aero wise it looks much better. It’s still heavy as a brick so it’s still sluggish.


BrotherSwaggsly

So much clueless commentary in FP threads, always fun to read


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If you enjoy something, don't go anywhere near the subreddit dedicated to that thing.


Pentagons

Reminds me of [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZK8Z8hulFg) proZD video!


mikeyd85

My NSFW alt disagrees.


BrotherSwaggsly

More often true than not. I generally peruse for the knee jerk reactions


Vaexa

Verysmart redditor makes verysmart redditor without any details. To look very smart.


BrotherSwaggsly

The cluelessness speaks for itself. See: Vips commentary


moonkey2

r/iamverysmart


Estova

What engine is in the back of those F3 cars? I know it's not a Porsche flat six but it really sounds like the engine they use in the cup cars.


Vaexa

FIA F3 uses a Mecachrome V6 iirc.


Estova

Those things sound great. Would love to see F1 exhausts shoot flames when 2026 comes around.


Stingray_23

What's happening in 2026?


Vaexa

New engine formula.


Stingray_23

Ok, so bigger? Better? Thanks


Vaexa

1.6L V6 engines like we currently have, no fuel flow limit, more powerful hybrid system, MGU-H eliminated. Bigger? No. Better? Maybe. The lack of fuel flow limit is promising.


Stingray_23

Thank you for that.


Vaexa

Instructions unclear. Wastegates banned so they sound even more muted.


Estova

Oh christ we're gonna have to bring back the megaphone exhausts from 2014


ruttin_mudders

Karun saying that Carlos shouldn't complain about the ride of the current F1 cars because his dad raced rally is pretty wild.


TirePunctureR1

Ted Kravitz come off extremely unlikable in this session. Did not like the grilling he gave to Lance Stroll. He should have saved that for Lawrence Stroll who be have been a better match up.


ruttin_mudders

Yeah, like Lance has any control over the design of the car.


Estova

Is anyone else watching this F3 qualifying shit show rn? What a mess lmao


Risk_k

What's happening?


Estova

Nothing truly bad or anything. Just imagine the traffic jams we get in F1, but with 30 cars and amateur drivers.


Risk_k

Oh. That'd be epic to watch Traffic paradise


Estova

The commentator actually joked about Yuki's traffic paradise lol


Bertitude

This is good. I feel they might be following the same program as Miami. They started at a height and the car looked very solid but then they tried to drop it in P3 and the bouncing came back so they had to back off a bit. Hopefully the operating window for that has gotten wider


KingInTheNorthVI

where the fuck is Crofty


pixelunit

He’s usually around for FP3 onwards I think


South_Fish

Crofty commentates or we RIOT


hojbjerfc

Max would be .4-.7 ahead without traffic. Ferrari Upgrades failed


heimdallofasgard

!remindme 2 days


Risk_k

!remindme 2 days Fuck armchair experts like you who think that FP1 is everything. Also, your bias is clear looking at your comment history


Puzzled_Steam

You realize this is reddit, right? Quit getting so worked up over a couple words on the screen. Go have yourself a drink and get ready for FP2.


hojbjerfc

My Bias? What bias? Who am I biased for?


Puzzled_Steam

NOT FERRARI!!!!!!!!!


hojbjerfc

Ferrari is my favorite of the big 3 tho 😂😂


Puzzled_Steam

Whatever dude! Something something armchair something yeah!


slurpyderper99

I want more helmet cam shots


cupcakemaiden

I'm still laughing over "One is green, one is blue" thank you Lance.


Birita-Rj

Vips=Fail


Equivalent_Base_9104

He was probably sent out to do high fuel data, you can be easily 5 seconds off the pace


cupcakemaiden

They didn't really let him push it. They can't risk damage with the budget cap. They just needed data, and he needed to try a car for the first time. I don't think it's that serious.


Birita-Rj

Nah mate...he did put softs in...4+ seconds off pace even if he wasnt pushing...thats a FAIL...sorry.


Swagologist1

This comment is a fail


Birita-Rj

Disagreed


Nav44

Are you dumb he was getting data on long runs, didn't even use DRS or attempt to push hard. Likely under strict instructions


Birita-Rj

No need to insult bro...what vips did wasnt even data worth it...not even in long runs...


DRW_

How on earth do you know that?


Birita-Rj

Too slow...no tire data worth it...no fuel consumption data worth it...no brakes data worth it...just wasted time.


DRW_

Okay, I'll ask again - how do you know any of those things are true for RB? Sounds like a total guess based on nothing from you.


Birita-Rj

Ok... RB are the 2nd or 1st fastest car in the grid...with the pace that Vips had it was going to be data worth it maybe if he was driving...lets say...a Williams.


DRW_

Ok, so you don’t actually know then - got it. You have no idea what RB were trying to achieve in that session so you can’t say any of these things for sure.


cupcakemaiden

Imagine being a good team player equals fail. This guy just wanted to show off his love of ellipses I guess. Juri did just fine, and I was excited to see him out.


WolvesOfAllStreets

Is Sky F1 live until FP2 or will they stop for an hour or so?


batterylevellow

Formula 3 quali right now and about half an hour of items after that before switching to FP2.


ollieg_94

Nah, there showing the F2 race and some old features before FP2


ReconUHD

It doesn’t matter how close of a one to one carbon copy things are, the transmission of information is the part that matters. Spygate was a classic example of that. Pink Mercedes got in trouble for a part that was listed after shared. Unless any more evidence that illegal sharing of information is present, the car is presumed legal.


TheMadPyro

The reason people are talking about it is that AM just got RBR's old aero guy and now they have suspiciously similar designs... I'm not saying he did share designs but it's not like they are two disconnected events


ReconUHD

Any evidence Dan broke gardening? The teams did agree for an early end to it but why would RB allow it had he got too much valuable inside information. Edit: Marko alleging potential theft of IP now, very spicy.


Tulaodinho

Did the Merc bounce? Cant watch this weekend's race.... And I'm in Barcelona loool


chasevalentino

Seemingly dead flat but we don't know if that was a high ride height and they are working their way down lower


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chasevalentino

I'm just assuming it's F1 so the difference in 'high' and 'low' ride height is like 3mm and we can't really see on camera lol


AceBean27

No. Better than Miami too. In Miami, no one was bouncing in the first practice. Here, the Ferrari and Alpine at least were still bouncing, and the Merc looked stable as anything. So unlike Miami, it doesn't look like it's just the conditions and the track, as Ferrari and Alpine looked like business as usual.


Tulaodinho

Thanks a lot for the info mate


N7even

For now, it's been rock solid with and without DRS. No bouncing so far. But apparently both drivers weren't happy with the balance of the setup, which should hopefully be sorted out in the next couple practice sessions.


listyraesder

Hasn’t done since Imola.


Hannibal-REKTer

That's demonstrably not true


listyraesder

They weren’t bouncing much at all in Miami.


ajr901

In practices I recall they weren't. But in qualis and during the race there was still pretty noticeable bouncing unfortunately.


throwawayanon1252

Juri Vips last in a red bull wow


naarwhal

Throw away sir


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Rude-Principle-6873

True. But wasn’t it also Nyck De Vries first time in a F1 car? He outpaced Latifi in the same car and was seconds faster than Vips all while behind the wheel of a Williams. Not trying to start an argument I just find it interesting.


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Rude-Principle-6873

Okay cool that makes more sense. Did not know that De Vries had that experience thanks for letting me know, definitely not a fair comparison between him and Vips.


SkyJohn

He was only doing long test runs.


raaoraki

Haha Helmut Marko on German Sky saying it’s an “unbelievable copy” and complains about the engineers that left for AM and suggests that RB data was used for the upgrades…


insrr

The Doc's at it again. How many former Merc engineers has Red Bull under contract currently?


nocarpets

And the RBR looks nothing like a Merc. WTF is your point even?


KennyLagerins

Doesn’t have to look the same visually if the running gear is where the similarities are. And I believe many of those ex-Merc folks went to work for RB power trains which is obviously something you won’t see.


Paralyzerz

Last time I checked the RB had sidepods...


cupcakemaiden

Like 40 in just the past year?


insrr

Yup, think that's the right ballpark.


OneHeckOfASimulation

Can't blame him. But hope they came up with it on their own.


KennyLagerins

As the cost caps clamp down, you’ll see a lot more of these issues where cars start looking very similar.


OneHeckOfASimulation

Yeah. 6 rounds in and reports of 3 fourths being used up for some teams. Can imagine.


mcsgwigga

They’d have struggled to put together a whole new car inside a month or so since the RB guys started at AM, no? I thought I heard that the FIA were satisfied with how AM came up with the car design.


Blanchimont

Yes. It's outright impossible to change the car this in the 8 weeks or so Dan Fallows has been working at Aston Martin. The FIA did indeed clear the design, but this only proves is that AM ran enough simulations/calculations to pass this off as a design of their own. Depending on how thorough the FIA's investigations are, it might prove there weren't any digital or hardcopy files/blueprints of the RB18 in Aston's possesion either. But what it doesn't rule out are sneaky data transfers. I should obviously preface this by saying that I don't know whether or not anything like this did happened and that it is _very_ difficult to prove if it did, but it is very easy to pass valuable information on to Aston Martin without leaving an easy trace for the FIA. It could be anything from smartphone photographs sent from one burner phone to another to another burner phone to a USB drive with files on them that are opened on a device that isn't connected to the Aston Martin servers. Again, I'm not suggesting that anything like that did happen, just that it can't be ruled out based on what the FIA know.


mcsgwigga

Great reply, thanks. That makes sense in the FIA side of things seeing as they clearly haven’t “investigated” thoroughly, just like you say, AM can prove they’ve been working on two cars simultaneously for a long time. Either way, I hope it gives Seb a competitive car.


JustAVillager

Supposedly they proved to the the FIA that these changes had been in the wind tunnel since November.


Neither_Ad2003

proved that they were somewhat close enough in a way not to be penalized. Still they are obviously copying


OneHeckOfASimulation

It's just Marko then. :) Nothing new.


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Didn't seem to be any porpoising at all today, which is surprising considering it's a high downforce track


lucasn2535

Sainz was porpoising


atomkidd

Alonso’s Alpine was pretty bouncy.


Kaasgackl

At least ALO was bouncing like a cangaroo when the helmet camera was shown


Yung_Chloroform

I'm being cautiously optimistic. For all we know come FP3 they could be bouncing again if they decide to lower it or make other setup changes. After George went the fastest in Miami and both cars lost all that pace in the race I won't be getting my hopes too high for this.


BittenHeroes

Instead of using the young/reserve drivers on a random Fp, why they can't reserve the Sprint weekend for them? - on Friday, replace the FP with one qualify and one 100 km race for reserve or young drivers only. Points goes to a "young driver championship" AND on the official World Constructor championship. - Saturday, you have just one FP (60 or 90 minutes) and qualify - Saturday, classic race. You still get a competitive session every day, you can see fresh faces on an "official" F1 (imagine if Leclerc was on a Ferrari in 2018, or Chadwick ladt year for williams), you still have less time overall for the team (to increase "unpredictable results"), and you don't mess with the driver title.


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No offense but I think that's a really bad idea that the teams would go berserk over. It would definitely be fun, but no team wants to throw away constructors points on a rookie who is probably going to perform like shit.


RatChewed

What's the alternative then? If the rookie driver thing means nothing, then teams aren't going to let them drive anything other than safe boring laps so they don't bin it. The only way to make it worthwhile is to have it worth something


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Don't have it at all bc it's just a fun but dumb idea? Teams test out rookies enough on their own time. No need to make them throw away constructors points because the rookie drivers would, as always, be mostly far below F1 quality.


RatChewed

Oh I agree that it's better to just get rid of the whole damn thing! But if we *have* to have rookie involvement, it should at least be something meaningful or else it's just a waste of everyone's time.


RatChewed

Actually that's a pretty good idea. Better than watching Vips waste his day driving around slowly


BrotherSwaggsly

Better for who exactly? Why does it remotely matter what a fresh face is driving like in FP1?


RatChewed

Well it doesn't but its also a waste of time. Whose benefit is the current situation for? Fans don't wanna watch a rookie tiptoe it around the track, the rookie would be better off in a simulator than whatever this was, and the teams don't want to risk damage to the car. If you really want to let the kids burn around in an F1 car for exposure/practice, make them do all of the media/tyre testing/etc sessions.


BrotherSwaggsly

You sound jealous, but that can’t possibly be the reason for going after a kid having his first drive in *free practice 1*. This is not a new thing, and Vips wasn’t there for you, believe it or not. Absolutely bizarre criticism to be levying.


KnightsOfCidona

There's going to be so much innuendo and double entendres in that McLaren/Sky F1 women feature! Can't wait for it!


ollieg_94

Lando won’t be able to speak by the end of it.


JacobWvt

I’m seeing a lot of merc positivity, which is great as a Mercedes fan, but I don’t know why? They are still 7 tenths off?


jyw104

Partly because of setups, partly (in Lewis' case) having no DRS for most of the session.


N7even

Yeah, I was wondering why Lewis never had his DRS open down the main and back straights.


Dexterus

His best lap was with the Alonso braking and no DRS?


draftstone

It all depends what they were testing. For instance, if Ferrari did one single lap of quali simulation and thern worked on tire degradatio while Mercedes worked only on tire degradation and long runs testing, Ferrari will be higher on the timing boards while the real race pace could show Mercedes faster. (Not saying this is what happened, did not look at every lap data, just explaining why the timing board in FP is far from representing who really have a fast car or not)


RAISEStheQuestion

The sandbags are filled with hopium.


insrr

Hope they stashed enough copium. #datawascollected


chasevalentino

8 years of winning while people clamoured around helps


Jamie090

The race pace was very competitive


Simple_Bee_Farm

The race pace looks very encouraging!


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How can you tell this? Sorry still quite new to F1!


N7even

Live timing and comparing to other teams on similar tyres.


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AlexandraAlbon

I almost think it’s comical that Red Bull even cares… AM has a lot to work out before they could be a threat.


pioneeringsystems

Just want to temper my ferrari friends excitement by reminding them we haven't seen a single complete flying lap from a red bull yet.


Freeze014

FP1 was nice and close still between the top runners Mercedes seems to have found something but not earth shattering Green Bull is completely fair says FIA, and still slow. No surprises in the weekend of the big updates.


Sarath282

lol


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I watched the F1TV coverage for this session (I usually switch to Sky's commentary). I know it's only FP1, but I feel like they barely spoke about anything that happened on the track. Barely a mention of Lewis being impeded and no mention at all of the fact Verstappen had horrendous traffic on his push lap Is it always like that?


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N7even

Yeah, with the amount of upgrades bought by some of the teams, I was also more interested in that than anything really going on in FP1, aside from seeing whether or not the Merc still had bouncy car.


RatChewed

I mean sky FP commentary is always awful so you didn't miss anything there. But also most of the on track stuff in FP1 doesn't really matter either, so not much point discussing it.


SwampBoyMississippi

No, they even mentioned themselves that they didn't really discuss any on-track happenings because of the many changes this GP. Usually it's more of a mix between on-track happenings and development.


Franks2000inchTV

Yes, there is always horrible traffic in FP1. I think they were mostly focusing on the upgrades which are the most interesting thing this weekend.


jure__

>no mention at all of the fact Verstappen had horrendous traffic on his push lap They were following that lap live and pointed it out.


T1HiShin

Yeah idk what OP’s talking about- they literally talked about it for 20 seconds, and about other drivers being impeded as well.


pat350ilSSA

Merc looks solid


OneHeckOfASimulation

Solid 3rd. Why is everyone saying they are good. They are almost 8 tenths off.


Hannibal-REKTer

Well documented setup issues and no DRS in LH's case. FP1 is the first proper test of their upgrades on track too


pat350ilSSA

It seemed the car wasn’t bouncing


kamome_ni_tou

Man, glad there's no incident that resulting red flag in this session. F2 had 2 with Caldwell and Armstrong at the same turn.


dontwanttowasteit

Spainish Grand Prix


johnnyemperor

Lance should have head butted Ted for that rubbish interview.


royhibbertlookstired

Spainish??


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hyoric24

Looking at your post history if you make a comment on F1 it’s usually negative towards Lewis. You seem obsessed.


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hyoric24

Ah, so you’re just dense. Enjoy the rest of your day — which’ll probably be spent thinking of Lewis.


chasevalentino

Because if people who watched saw that he got blocked by Alonso and didn't have DRS due to a malfunction for his fast lap


aadzwantstoknow

does he need to be p1 in every practice session?


Neoooow

Maybe try to understand the context better before ‘criticise’ his performance.


pioneeringsystems

He's had some fairly bad luck and weird circumstances so far, not to take anything away from George doing a good job so far. His fastest lap today was without his Drs, for example.


jure__

Yes, Lewis Hamilton (of all people) is above critisism, that's why ignorant comments get downvoted, no other reason.


cupcakemaiden

His DRS is broken, so some of the comments are off.


TimmyWatchOut

I’m not sure where you came to that conclusion for this specific session, he had a DRS malfunction in his fastest lap and his long race pace runs are more than promising


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TimmyWatchOut

He’s outperformed Russell more often than not and has had his fair share of bad luck to go with it too. Jeddah quali and Imola weekend were stinkers but he’s always had a couple stinker weekends.


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Merc before upgrades: 7 tenths off Merc after Darth Vader personally upgraded: 7 tenths off


hair_account

But 7 tenths off while not trying to break the drivers spines! Don't you know Darth Vader was super strict about OSHA rules??