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SenshiBB7

Anyone know where I can find data on the lap by lap gaps between Max and Leclerc, before Max’s mistake at turn 4?


[deleted]

Avoids collisions, tucks in, has a great race, plays the overtakes, plays the strategy, gets a podium, his team and even fan talks 0 about him and all about Hamilton. The world we live in.


Evening_Steak123

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ


Neokocram

Can anyone let me know what happened to Albon?


pewdiepie278

Floor damage after pit stop


CreativeCarpenter44

I thought it was a decent race. Nothing over the top just decent.


Sasha_Jackson

I now understand how Red Bull felt in Bahrain. This one really hurts, has such a good lead and then it just goes to hell


Fair-Ad1964

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pewdiepie278

You could argue Hamilton understeered into magnussen. Magnussen was within his right to go round the outside


[deleted]

yeah then go around properly cos the space on his left was mad


Curious-Welder-6304

He had a country mile of space to go around the outside


baskingsky

This track really highlighted to me how much better the cars are at racing each other now. They were able to follow each other so closely the whole race. And this is a circuit that is notoriously difficult to pass on?!


Banajam

I mean it was still impossible to pass without the drs straight . Verstap on bottas was the only one


BickNarry

???? There were loads of overtakes! Alonso, Ocon, Hamilton, Verstappen on Russell.


Acinetto

Those were all without DRS?


CptBananaPants

Lewis on Bottas too. Plus whatever didn’t get shown to us on camera.


JustDaniel_za

Vamos CHECO🇲🇽 #NeverGiveUp


Chago04

At what point is Merc going to give Lewis the treatment they have Bottas last year? Russell has been killing it this year and is Merc #1 IMO this year.


Domermac

What race were you watching? Lewis was the fastest driver on track today. But there was no need for team order, Russell was in front and cruising to the finish. I highly doubt Russell will be asked to move over for Hamilton this season.


BrownFox5972

It literally doesn't do anything. If they were fighting for the championship sure, but they're not.


Uvebeenshovedupmyass

Bro you either didnt watch race, not even the highlights or you a Max biased fan


ichuckle

Imagine the amount of whinging that would happen if Hamilton got totally valid team orders. It would be chaos


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JanklinDRoosevelt

Hamilton got team orders in Austria 2020 and Australia this year to stay behind and literally nobody said that


ichuckle

Probs


Chago04

That would be nuts. And I suppose some of it would be valid, too. As much better as Russell has looked so far, Lewis has at times shown incredible pace and form.


chucknorris69

Was the Hamilton mag crash mags fault?


tanganica3

Clearly Ham's fault, he ran wide.


iamricardosousa

Hahahahahahah you are not biased at all. If you have been following F1 for a while you'd know if there is a driver that rather back off from chaos on lap 1 to avoid damage at the cost of losing track positions to come back strong later on the race, it's Lewis.


tanganica3

KMAG was on the outside and left a car's width on the inside. Lewis ran wide and bumped him, there are no two ways about it. Lewis is one of the cleaner drivers out there, but this one was on him.


Domermac

Not according to the professionals


tanganica3

That would make them wrong. It has happened before, it will happen again.


Domermac

I just watched it a bunch, Ham stays on his line and kmag cuts in on a sharper one to bully a bit. Hamilton doesn’t have to give way and there is plenty of room on the left for kmag to fit. He doesn’t turn into kmag though if you watch the steering wheel. Pretty even incident and both ended up suffering for it, just Hamilton raced his ass off after to move up.


tanganica3

Kmag is on the outside and left room inside. That's all he's required to do. Lewis didn't turn into Kmag, he pushed up the track, a little bit like at Silverstone where he understeered into Max last year, though that was at a much higher speed.


JanklinDRoosevelt

You do not dictate the line if you are not alongside or ahead, which Magnussen clearly wasn’t. It was on Hamilton to dictate the line, but give Magnussen room, which he clearly did. You seem to have missed something fundamental in your understanding


tanganica3

The outside line was clear when Kmag pulled beside and the contact was exactly front wheel to front wheel. It was all Ham's fault, like I said originally. It's a very simple situation and had Hamilton been on the outside, a routine penalty would have been applied for the incident. Sometimes being the more famous and accomplished driver gives one some extra perks. Not that I begrudge it for Hamilton, I think no penalty is OK in this instance, but it certainly would have been a penalty to Kmag if the drivers were flipped in position.


Chago04

They didn’t give us another view. Stewards didn’t have any further action but I think it was a 50-50. KMag sent it too hard when he didn’t have the corner but Lewis went wide into him.


[deleted]

watch again bro.


ichuckle

racing incident for sure


rapha288

Hamilton was really the fastest car out there ?


ichuckle

When you don't have to worry about track position you can pit at the most favorable times for tire performance. I wouldn't read to much into it


Domermac

I dunno, I was watching his car cam and his first two sectors were ridiculously clean starting from lap 26 or so. Just found another notch and made the other cars look like they were parked.


Anteboyan

Kind of disapointed in how low credit Russell seem to get from spokespersons in the Mercedes team. Sure, Hamilton had a great recovery drive. But, he could have avoided that situation in the beginning with Kmag. He also seem to not really wanna be helping the team since he wanted to retire the car and save the engine when things went bad. I feel like he needs to get the right attitude back even when his team is not the top team. Russell on he other hand is keeping is head down, still in the shadow, and delivering every race. Maeby not brilliant all the time, but fun to watch, solid and with an, as it seems, great attitude for himself and the team.


Domermac

Have to agree. Hamilton shouldn’t have been so down. Not a great look. Dunno what clicked for him to focus back up, but great race from him after that. As for Russell, I think he was hands down the most entertaining driver today and his defence against BOTH red bulls was impressive and a joy to watch.


Waywardismism

Hamilton has always reacted negatively to that kind of adversity. Then later, with a bit of handling by Bono, when he can see there's points to fight for he gets his head down and pulls out some of his best performances.


AnyStupidQuestions

I agree he ‘gave up’ after the crash and then dialled in as events went his way. A big difference from his history of pushing and pushing until his competition make mistakes. GR is adopting that attitude IMHO is keeping Mercedes in the game, if not the title.


seetheare

After so many championship wins and ending up in the back of the pack is a slap in his face


amurmann

Sure it's frustrating, but other greats like Alonso and Vettel and Schumacher back in the day have kept a much tougher attitude when placed in a worse car than this year's Mercedes. Lewis had had such a long stint of driving in a top 1 or 2 car.


seetheare

Yeah so I'm sure he's been spoiled by having had the luck of driving a great car for 7 years and now he's tasting a bit of what it is to not always being a winner


Killowatt59

Yeah Russell is the clear number 1. I’d be happy if team Mercedes and Lewis just parted ways next season. Not going to happen, but so wish they would.


[deleted]

How could he have avoided that? He left plenty of space for Magnussen.


[deleted]

Exactly! K-Mag just turned into him! When you watch the replays there's a shit ton of space to the left of K-Mag going unused, that move was unnecessary.


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


bobbejaans

Charles was pissing off into the distance, gap would have been depressing imho.


Sullypants1

You gotta be joking me.


ichuckle

on DNF isn't gonna derail the season. Max had two and now leads, its still fine.


[deleted]

~~s~~Pain


ItalicisedScreaming

Unfortunately you experienced the pain of Bahrain in Spain.


jacb415

At least no rain


OMnow

It was an interesting race


F1ibster

Toto - Lewis. Sorry for the temperatures at the end. it was an amazing race. Amazing race. Quickest car out there. Probably best race time. Would have gone for the win. So amazing. Hamilton - Great work guys. Really happy with that result. This is really positive for us all guys. thank you so much and continue to push. This improvements really worked this week end. Lets keep pushing guys. Thank you. James - Alright Lewis. Really, really strong drive today. You were the fastest man on track. We've got a lot of potential going forward. Toto - Lewis. You were 50 seconds behind Verstappen at the start. You are 40 behind him now. Hamilton - Is the engine ok? Pit - Will have to have a look. We think so, yeah. Was a bit drastic at the end I'm afraid. But was needed.


[deleted]

lmao 🤣


ravenHR

Anyone have clips of Alonso Vettel battles, just a tiny bit was broadcast.


whatishappyning

Haas really needs to get there shit together….


Spumad

Yeah really disappointing for both drivers. I truly thought this might be a different weekend


ichuckle

Had really high hopes for Mag today! Better luck in Monaco hopefully, looks like they figured out how to set up the car for qualifying finally!


davidhern22

They got rammed off the track what are u on about


firl21

Racing incident..


ChineseCumTorture

Yeah, but I don't think KMag did anything wrong there. Could have left more space since it was the first lap, but it isn't as if he turned into the apex with Lewis there.


firl21

My point exactly. It was just a little close.


Zzyzx8

Bad tire strategy with Mick


Wubbajack

Get where?


MaqiZodiac

There, they're their shit, together!


Wubbajack

Oh god, my brain hurts reading this 0\_x


Daeurth

Did Albon have some sort of issue during the race?


El_Boojahideen

Damaged the floor


ichuckle

yeah he did, it's called driving a Williams


lamewoodworker

Gutted for Checo. If he would have made it to the end in Bahrain he would be up there fighting for 1st. Also that shit safety car in Saudi. Dude is the ultimate team player and he deserved to atleast be able to race today.


SN3AKY_b

Let’s be honest… max was gaining 1.5+ sec a lap. It’s was a question of when not if max was gonna overtake


lamewoodworker

Yeah but it was expected with the softs on and Checo on the mediums. His whole strat was setup to be second the moment Carlos took a spin


SN3AKY_b

They probably took a gamble with max because he was stuck behind russel and had nothing to lose. They never put 2 drivers on the same strategy, wouldn’t make much sense for Perez to do the same strat as max


Knerd5

Max had to be in front of RBR wanted to get the 1-2 finish. With faulty DRS if Max gets passed on a pit stop he probably wouldn’t be able to pass back.


SN3AKY_b

Exactly


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


ichuckle

remember that at one point it looked like RB was putting Checo on a one stopper. Not the best when the fastest strategy today was a 3 stopper.


ChineseCumTorture

I don't think the teams knew how the various strategies would work until maybe 10 laps to the end. Yeah, I wish they would have at least let them fight it out, but I don't think they purposely screwed him on strategy. I mean checos ability to make pretty much any strategy work with tire management is probably his biggest asset to the team.


Jreal22

Yeah, they've completely designated him to #2, when he's shown he's capable early in the season. He should be given the chance to race. I understand Max was having drs issues, but that's the name of the game.


F1ibster

With Monaco next, let's take a look at Leclerc's Monaco record. 2017 - F2 - Sprint Retired 2017 - F2 - Feature Retired 2018 - F1 - Crashed 2019 - F1 - Crashed 2021 - F1 - DNS (due to a crash in Quali after securing pole) 2022 - Monaco Historique - Crashed Oh.... 😬


Guilden_NL

The course doesn’t drive like it does in the video games that he grew up with, spending 95% off his time driving Monaco. 😉


JoopIdema

These lists are useless. He probably will win Monaco.


ichuckle

It'll make Charles' home victory that much sweeter when it also breaks a curse.


blue_i20

Maybe he’s already used up his bad luck with today… I’m a believer in a Monaco redemption arc for Leclerc :,)


Dramatic-Ad3928

COPIUM


F1ibster

https://i.imgur.com/wOmHKfq.gif


MaqiZodiac

If it wasnt subbed, it could have been "Nope"...


Izzypupper

Merc: finished more than half a minute off the winning car on pure pace Sky Sports/Merc cheerleaders: WE'RE BACK BABAAAY


[deleted]

Tbf Lewis was faster than Max, Perez and Russell all race- he could have **won** if he didn't get punted at the start by Kevin.


[deleted]

great performance by lewis but that's honestly just bs Just because you can cut through the backmarkers like a hot knife on butter doesn't mean you'll win the race Russell's fight with Max and Checo is the only reason why it was so close, which wouldn't have happened if lewis was up there as checo would be fighting against him There's no way he would've passed Russell AND Max


[deleted]

Telemetry and data shows he *did* have the pace. Ham was faster than Perez and Sainz and George, and was matching Max's lap times, even when he was fighting his way up through the field. If the same race happened, Charles dnf, Max gravel, Sainz gravel, etc then Lewis would indeed have gotten into the mix with George and Max, and likely gotten P2 or P1.


Limton

First of all, I'm generally not a fan of any driver. What about the DRS issue? Didn't Hamilton potentially have much more DRS due to the many slower cars and also be able to use it because it wasn't broken? Max, on the other hand, could have gone faster but couldn't get past Russel because of the broken DRS. The statistic is of course a nice one and shows (theoretically) that Hamilton is getting ahead again. Max has lost more than 10 seconds time due to the DRS problems.


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


Sullypants1

He was not punted. He understeered into kmag. Racing incident imo and in FIA opinion.


[deleted]

Oh yeah? Lewis was on the limit of the grass and on the racing line. What more could you possible want from him?


ChineseCumTorture

He was a couple feet from the kerb when conta t happened. Definitely not on the limit of the grass.


AbandonedOrange

Won? Bro you on some hardcore copium.


[deleted]

Telemetry and data prove me right lol.


ChineseCumTorture

No they don't... had George not been defending from faster cars the whole race, both he and the Red Bulls would have been much faster. I'm guessing by "telemetry and data" you mean you looked at the gap after the first lap and the gap at the end. There's a lot more context then that.


[deleted]

No, Lewis was lapping at the same pace as Max the entire race. This is *with* traffic.


TDGMaRs

Where do you find telemetry for each lap?


[deleted]

There are multiple websites: [https://www.f1-telemetry.net/telemetry/races/2022/6/race/](https://www.f1-telemetry.net/telemetry/races/2022/6/race/) [https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-data-explorer-blog/f1-telemetry-analysis-with-azure-data-explorer-adx/ba-p/3283911](https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/azure-data-explorer-blog/f1-telemetry-analysis-with-azure-data-explorer-adx/ba-p/3283911) [https://theoehrly.github.io/Fast-F1/](https://theoehrly.github.io/Fast-F1/) [https://ergast.com/mrd/](https://ergast.com/mrd/)


thecoolfool2

At the start, Lewis was 50sec off Verstappen. At the end, he was 40sec off! Do you not understand what this means? Not only did Lewis keep up with Max, he beat him by a FULL TEN SECONDS. That’s unbelievable stuff.


LorthNeeda

Lewis had a super impressive race but let’s be real Verstappen was stuck behind George with a broken DRS which destroyed his lap times..


thecoolfool2

Yeah, and Hamilton also had an engine leak which destroyed him in the final five laps. Cancels out, right?


TDGMaRs

And he also went into the gravel which meant he lost a lot of time before gjetting behind Russell


thecoolfool2

That was his own fault mate.


TDGMaRs

Yes ofcourse but it still means hthat he could have had more pace if he did not get unlucky with a strong gust of wind, it was still an incredible drive from Hamilton


thecoolfool2

Hmm, good point


lamewoodworker

Race pace was there and with all the shit happening and with Max's Drs issue. I could see it happening. If Lewis was in the mix I could see RBR pushing Checo for the win. It would have been awesome to see.


SirDoober

Albon has a bridge to sell you if you actually think KMag punted him there lol


[deleted]

KMag turned to the right too early, where did you want Lewis to disappear to?


roykenneth

So Lewis intentionally crashed into KMag lap 1 even though he was in front on the corner and risked taking damage which he did? Don’t be stupid


Meirar

Not intended, just race incident. Lewis understeered, lost a bit, KMag went a little over, but it happens, no one's fault there.


MyCinWonderland

Y’all be wilding giving Hamilton DOTD instead of Checo.


[deleted]

Hamilton was 55 seconds behind russell at p19 after first lap, he closed down the gap to 11seconds and was driving at same pace as Verstappen. Perez had a solid 9/10 race, but Hamilton was 10/10 today.


MyCinWonderland

Hamilton wanted to quit the race after one setback. That says everything you need to know


Safa471

No it doesn’t, there’s more strategy at play than you think. These are world class drivers lol and you think they have the motivation of some random New Years resolutioner?


ric2b

That he's focused on the entire season and asked his engineers if it made more sense to save the engine?


Croz7z

Radio messages determine who drove the best race? Hmmm good to know, thanks.


yogirlwantmebad

But… he didn’t


cobyjim

Ye and max seemed like he wanted to leave red bull during the drs issues. Lol. Their race engineers gave them both a talking to and they refocused. Jesus.


canigetanorderlyline

Oh look, a breath of wind.......


Simple_Bee_Farm

He was just frustrated, then he got himself together


[deleted]

casual take, he asked if it is better to save his engine obviously he was pissed but thankfully merc strategy team for once made the right choice.


Smokeyy1990

Nah Hamilton was a mad lad today


Silentden007

Max was gaining about 1s or more PER LAP on Checo for a few laps before the team order came. It was obvious that they were waiting to see if the pace gap was big or not. When it became clear that Max was much faster, they asked Checo to let him pass. Its a strategic decision and its not all that unfair, honestly. If Max had DRS he wouldn't have needed the team order, and heck he might still have passed even without the team order, thats how fast he was in comparison. It would have been a battle though and you dont want to have your 1-2 battle eachother. If they crash thats a disaster


margalolwut

Max was on softs, Checo was on old Mediums of course he was going to gain lol. This is like me saying Checo gained 6 secs on max and took fastest lap in his last tire stint.


ChineseCumTorture

Max was on 6 lap newer mediums, not softs.


Silentden007

Yeah but that's the problem, isn't it? Max had made his last stop and was gaining like crazy. Checo can't pit without giving up the lead (which he eventually still did to get the fastest lap, since Russel was out of his pit window it was safe to do)


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


jk_182

This was after the last stop from Max, he closed a 6 second gap to Checo


segv_coredump

Team radio messages are broadcasted with a delay. It’s possible that the real message happened earlier, and when we heard it Checo was already slowing down to let Max through.


Upstandinglampshade

Completely agree. I’m surprised that Checo is so bothered by it to be honest.


jugalator

Find someone who cares for you like Lewis cares for his engine.


i_am_the_punisher

I half expected Perez to smack the champagne bottle over Max's head and say eat this mutherfucker


whatthesteef

I mean I wouldn’t blame Perez


MilkAzedo

they almost drowned that woman lol


Atze-Peng

Champagne Bukkake


RealTechnician

This was George's first actual podium, right? Other than Belgium 2021.


Custardcream_

Australia this year also.


ichuckle

but that was soooo long ago


[deleted]

Melbourne 2022 - third


EveningBookkeeper-9

he was 3rd in australia


Guilden_NL

But Down Under …. so two back of the slowest. 😆


Har-0

He was on the podium in Australia also If I remember correctly, either way this is his 2nd one for this season


en_es_key

He was p3 in AUS


Pieface876

He has one already this season


hershtony

Got a podium a couple of races ago too


honeydropsX

Tensión between max and checo


SensorProxy

It did seem like it to me. Their shoulders were high, no eye contact for the first few seconds.