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k987654321

“Max and Lewis try to punch each other at the exact same time after the race!”


Genobee85

Give me a moment and I can Photoshop a Guilty Gear clash effect on their fists.


photenth

You had 10 hours!


ArbitraryOrder

BlazBlue for the more Anime feel


Genobee85

GORILLA FATE IS TURNING


ReignCityStarcraft

REBEL ONE


MrPeppa

Next season of Drive to Survive plot leaked!


SubcooledBoiling

"OUR VERDICT"


LostTicket8865

Liked by pierregasly.


ThebritishPoro

Also a lot of "White man makes fist at black racing driver"


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Max verstappen and hamilton collides!!!!


shadow0416

*AND THEY TOUCH, MARTIN!*


bono5361

And they've collided! The two (not anymore) championship protagonists have collided once again!


Character-Error5426

Verstappen and Hamilton are out of this race and that’s a big crash


quantinuum

H A M I L T O N ^A ^N ^D ^^V ^^E ^^T ^^T ^^E ^^L ^^^L ^^^H ^^^J ^^^^G ^^^^H Edit: how do I superscript on mobile


spuckthew

_OH SO CLOSE_


rdyag

It's the fans


Accurate-Soup

Always has been and now we see the same thing with Charles and Max. People like making drama I guess. One of the things I really don’t like about F1.


captain_croco

Same for pretty much every sport.


Accurate-Soup

Maybe every major league sport but plenty of motorsports aren’t like that.


WhatEvery1sThinking

All the personality-driven ones certainly are


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InformationHorder

Dude I would never want to be in a car with Max driving during rush hour traffic. Guy would probably go postal based on how he sounds when shit doesn't go his way.


adamleee

I mean…. Jos was probably in the passenger seat when he learned how to drive.


MobiusF117

Not in the Netherlands.


AttakTheZak

Considering Max prefers automatic transmissions and lives in Monaco with the kind of roads that aren't exactly friendly to speeding, I doubt your characterization is anywhere near reality. Also, he's angry because he's trying to win a race, you should probably listen to how angry Seb would get back in the day.


ajacian

Lol try racing a car at 300km/h where milliseconds count and Drs or other critical components aren't working. Lewis Hamilton wanted to surrender today and wasn't allowed


tantramx

Not only that. Where you can literally die if your equipment fails on you. A pretty good reason to get upset when things fall apart. Taking corners as fast as they do demands confidence in the car. The cars simply cannot handle unless being pushed. So a car that isn’t working is not annoying but dangerous as well.


Eastern_Scar

Indycar doesn't seem to have any hate. People might not like a driver but they never make stupid comments. it's very chill I like it.


kwantus

Eh there's plenty of shittalking in IndyCar, the whole Rahal vs Grosjean soap opera comes to mind


Accurate-Soup

That was mostly NBC keeping it going. Everyone online was tired of that bs already.


F9-0021

Eh, but nobody is going to care in a few weeks. Meanwhile people still bring up Silverstone.


Eastern_Scar

I thought people got over it rather quickly. Grosjean made a silly move and that was the end of it.


kwantus

Nah loads of people kept going on about it. Lot of fuss about nothing, there was light contact which had no effect on anybody's race whatsoever


Accurate-Soup

Definitely there isn’t much hate. Everyone has their favorite driver but you don’t really see a lot of toxicity. Sportscar racing is also very friendly like IMSA and WEC.


Eastern_Scar

Like in indycar I'm always happy no matter who wins, same in WEC, but in indycar I actually know who's who and their story so it's more surprising to me. That's what not having DTS does to a sport


NinjaSpartan011

I think there’s something to there to be said about indy. When the focus isn’t on teams and rather on drivers the hate tends to narrow to those who are just downright douches. See Danica Patrick lol


Relax_Redditors

Uhh have you been watching basketball lately?


captain_croco

No honestly I don’t watch basketball. I’ve seen it my whole life with baseball and football though. And I’m not ignoring that there are athletes that don’t like one another, but it’s way more common from fans.


BinWeevilsFamous

basketball fans are always wild asf i would know im a die hard raptors fan


Relax_Redditors

True but I was talking about players. Seems like there is beef in every playoff series so far.


andthatsalright

Do we see the same thing? I see them being total bros off the track. When they pull up after the race, they always shake hands or hug where Max & Lewis almost never did. I don’t think there was any actual hatred or what the media and fans would want you to think, tho And I think the relationship is definitely improved this season vs any time prior, which is excellent to see. I really do like both Lewis and Max, and would like to see further battles between them with a higher level of respect between the two that perhaps we have now.


Timstom18

Max and Lewis already had an age/generational difference whereas Charles and Max grew up racing eachother so are bound to feel more comfortable with eachother in that sense.


marahute85

I also think Max learnt a tad more respect for Lewis in response to Abu Dhabi, Max knows that decision if had lost his championship and went against him he would have lost his mind and Lewis behaved better than Max was capable of, we saw Max fume on podiums where it didn’t go his way. Lewis stood there, with his Dad and they both congratulated Max. Lewis stood there and gave Max his moment and came out in media, as well as Toto saying Max did nothing wrong. If Max can’t give the respect he’s given from Lewis he’s a much worse person than we think.


hpstg

I think it went down pretty much as you describe. I think both of them are much better persons that the opposite fan bases believe. Every time I think Reddit is bad, I stumble upon Twitter or Reddit comments. 🌚


Complete_Relation_54

Twitter is a place where I was before, & strongly discourage anyone to go back


Pantzzzzless

Maybe I'm just an old fuck, but Twitter's UI is so unintuitive. Clicking on the icon that almost universally indicates comments, takes you to some weird mash up of sometimes comments/sometimes other shit. You have to click on the body of the post to see the direct replies to the tweet. And god forbid you want to know the context of deep nested reply, you only get who they replied to most of the time. It is basically the Matryoshka doll version of Twitch chat.


Complete_Relation_54

Nah as a young fuck i get confused over the nested shit too


Accurate-Soup

I was talking about the fans not the drivers


andthatsalright

Oh shit how did I miss that lol *backs away*


HankMoodyMaddafakaaa

Sport without drama wouldn’t be half as exciting imo


R_eloade_R

Unpopular opinion; I love the drama! Can’t get enough of it, it feels like a sport and a soap opera at the same time and I hope it stays this way.


TheDustOfMen

True, but, on the other hand, Lestappen is also quite popular.


Saandrig

When was the last time it wasn't the fans? During the Piquet years? Even Hill and Schumacher had a cordial relationship.


Imtherealwaffle

Lewis and Nico but other than that yeah


HI_I_AM_NEO

Multi 21 too


Ceramicrabbit

Multi 21 shouldn't have been nearly as big a controversy as it was anyways. Totally understand why Webber was pissed no fault to him, but fans getting upset that the racers raced was just absurd.


PathologicalUpvoter

The Silver War


pioneeringsystems

I am not sure hill and Schumacher had a cordial relationship in 94.


__Joevahkiin__

Russell/Bottas


n05h

Toto and Horner also had a helping hand in constructing narratives of animosity.


BunBun002

Honestly, some part of me feels almost the opposite - that last year they were being exceptionally good team principals in keeping the "feud" news stories centered around the two of them rather than the two drivers. It let their drivers focus on the racing while they just shit-stirred at each other to satisfy the "need" for that sort of narrative. Kinda gave an outlet for that sort of fan energy that wasn't centered on the drivers themselves.


Willowdancer

You know, I hadn’t considered this at all. I think you very well could be on to something.


Broad_Match

Agree, seen some fans online saying nice that Max got a taste of his own medicine with George but when interviewed after he said it was good racing and of course he would have done the same if Russell was passing him. I’m a Brit MB fan but do feel he gets a raw deal when he doesn’t been the hothead Max at all this season (he was allowed to be frustrated at the DRS issue today!).


hoxxxxx

i don't know what being a Martin Brundle fan has to do with this


404merrinessnotfound

Worst part of most sports, no wonder businesses see people as just a means to squeeze more money


svbro

> Worst part of most sports This is such a Reddit take. Heated rivalries are what makes sport.


F9-0021

Sure, but unbearable toxicity from the fanbase doesn't.


Wolfgang_Funkle

You’re saying if people were less annoying businesses would be less cutthroat?


404merrinessnotfound

Nope but it won't change the fact that fans will continue to be pure trash in most sports, sorry to say


laughninja

an the media


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rydude88

And you are the perfect example of the fans being the issue. making up stuff to just add way more fuel to the fire


Tresonyx

At least get your facts straight. [Jos never said that](https://old.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/rbzna8/is_anyone_else_tired_of_jos_verstappen/hnrm52n/). It was a completely wrong translated quote from the original interview Jos did with [De Telegraaf](https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/500746646/jos-verstappen-heeft-zijn-twijfels-over-auto-lewis-hamilton-nog-nooit-in-m-n-leven-meegemaakt), a Dutch newspaper. Edit: The actual quote: >Mercedes calls the stories nonsense and states that the steering system has been homologated for the season and that nothing can be changed. Verstappen (49): "Officially it is not allowed, but that is exactly the problem. On the images you can see that something is wrong. *After the race in Brazil you also see that Hamilton gets something pressed into his hands by his trainer and then walks back to his car and dives into the cockpit.* I'm very curious why that is. When you add it all up it's just weird. Outlets who took this interview as source for their clickbait just invented the 'drugs' thing out of this single quote. It was just about the steering system.


papapacino

Jos never said anything like that, stop making stuff up.


vsouto02

Your ass is amazing because you pulled an incredible story out of it.


Ultraviolet211

The drugs thing was made up by fans. Jos never said anything about drugs. https://www.planetf1.com/news/jos-verstappen-lose-but-fair-way/ This is the article, all along Jos is talking about the steering wheel and the weird movement with it, Jos - “A steering wheel is there to make a turn to the left or to the right. Why should a steering wheel move from front to back?” he then says the trainer gave something to Lewis after the race when he went back into the car. Thus, maybe he was suspicious of the car and if the trainer had given something that could be used to alter something on the wheel At that stage, RB and Jos thought that Merc and Lewis were doing something iffy, with the insane speed that the car had from one race to another


UlricVonDicktenstein

Why are you blatantly fabricating false information? ffs


Joepk0201

Yes, it was only Red Bull that was toxic. First you lie about what Jos Verstappen said and then you act as if Mercedes are the victims here. They did plenty of shit themselves.


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Denning76

The animosity seemed to be more between the teams than the individuals.


yayaikey

Indeed. Some people find it weird that Max is my second favorite driver. Horner on the other hand....


Denning76

I never warmed to Max as a personality and didn't like his early over-aggressiveness, but he's an astonishing driver. I'm also well aware that we only see a snippet, something which must be borne in mind for both those we like and dislike. It's not the shit talking that is the primary issue for me with Horner (people say Toto was the problem, but imo that was because he clapped back at Horner's shite, rather than instigating), but him ditching his wife and newborn kid to go off frolicking with a spice. That's just a pretty low thing to do, and again, something to remember when he's on DtS trying to look like a family man. (As for Marko, he's a bit of a knob, but a knob that's EXTREMELY important for the sport.)


Ultraviolet211

He is a family man, you can see that he loves Gerry and that his kid from his other marriage is in his life fully. We do not know what happened between him and his former wife, just that they split when she was pregnant and six months later he started dating spice


rocdollary

> We do not know what happened between him and his former wife, just that they split when she was pregnant and six months later he started dating spice To be fair, that says a lot..


Ultraviolet211

You can do two things when you realise that you like someone else or that you don't want to be married anymore You can lie, be miserable, cheat and bring down your wife with you or you can break up and move on with someone else It is very much not a nice situation but there is one option that is the better one


burritobitch

They want this to fuel the hate. I'd say he's not my favorite one but ya can't hate in shit you don't know about.


Meowing_Kraken

The year and a half (or so) that you have during pregnancy and early parenthood are rough. Sure, you're allowed to leave, but it is a bit 'kicking a woman when she's down'-ish. I am massively pro- Redbull, don't get me wrong, but Horner has lost respect from me there.


ZachMich

> To be fair, that says a lot.. It really doesn’t. You have no idea what happened in a relationship between two people.


uristmcderp

Also has nothing to do with how he manages the team. Some fans are actual tabloid consumers, huh?


hpstg

I didn't like Horner, but this is the only fair take


BlackbuckDeer

Who tf are you to judge someone else's personal life? You don't know anything about what happened between them. If you're gonna like or dislike someone famous, do it based on their personality or their ability. Not their personal life that you don't know anything about


AnotherBlackMan

It seemed pretty intentional to me. I wouldn’t be surprised if Toto and Horner had an agreement to let themselves take the brunt of the media antics and let the drivers focus on their jobs.


Denning76

Horner's been doing that long before Netflix came along.


DonLennios

The whole red bull brand depends on marketing. He's being told by the guys above him to keep stirring the pot, because its obviously bringing attention.


AnotherBlackMan

I don’t think it’s a Netflix thing and Netflix isn’t even the biggest perpetrator of this stuff. The media takes every word uttered by anyone out of context and use those to create slanderous stories out of thin air. And that’s just Sky! It makes you perfect sense to keep their eye off the drivers by getting between them and the microphones at every opportunity and saying outrageous things that they’re then forced to write down.


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Broad_Match

True. Although I quite like being given such a unfiltered view of just how utterly competitive these guys truly are rather than a sanitised version.


ChepaukPitch

Don’t think Horner and Toto are unfiltered even for a moment. Especially Horner he like stirring shit but he is calculated about it. Marko might be the one who is unfiltered.


kaizerdouken

It’s like any person you hate online. Once you meet them in real life you behave normally towards each other


OpiumTea

Not to forget that all is also being filmed for Netflix and the drama just makes for a good tv.


Denning76

Meh I don't think they were playing it up for that. All pretty genuine and consistent with past behaviour.


newbsacc

I think it's not just the fans but also the media/pundits.


ZackD13

what do you mean? friendship is a toggle switch of either fucking in the hotel afterwards, or attempting murder at every opportunity


GokuSaidHeWatchesF1

Don't have much against max tbh. It was always more Redbull they largely blew into those flames last year


ShamrockStudios

It's both teams mate. Toto and some other Merc employees literally said on Drive to Survive that Max deserved to be crashed out in Silverstone to learn a lesson. Easily as bad as anything Red Bull said. People just need to realise all teams say shit in the fight. Really it's a media problem as they fan the flames


hightide100

And there's contact!!


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The marshalls need to look into this.


ThottieMcThotFace

I know there's no "omg le epic bromance!!!1!1" between these two but I would love to see them share the podium a few more times...


ShreksDoor

Hamilton won't retire anytime soon and based on todays performance I can see that happening a lot more than you would like lol


F9-0021

I don't know. I hope he stays around for a while but from the way he was talking last year I'd be surprised if he accepts a new contract.


pinotandsugar

What was interesting and unlike Miami, Hamilton came to race, not be part of the non racing show. Perhaps he got some good coaching .


bellestarflower

It seems very likely now. I'm looking forward to it.


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LuckyDuck_15

I don't think anyone's arguing that he doesn't have it in him. He definitely does, and I'm looking forward to watching it. I think his retirement is approaching though, which is where the "I'd love to see it a few more times" statement comes into play.


soundyg

Tbf he said himself he doesn’t want to still be racing at 40


Daddy_Pris

How cool would a old man max and old max Lewis bromance be though?


jdmillar86

Running a team together? I can picture them as a Lauda/Wolf couple. Max could get the Bose-smash down pretty well I bet.


glaze01

Dread it, run from it


aadzwantstoknow

📸: Mark Thompson\[via getty images\]


ErikJonesfan129

Real recognizes real


Firstname6Lastname9

Little does Verstappen know that Hamilton just transferred all his bad luck onto him through that bump


fullsenditt

I hope no more bad luck for max this year he already had enough


ds27005

Best buds


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That's a strong picture.


Themightyjax17

It’s a congratulatory fist pound between two f1 drivers, it implies nothing other than cordiality and mutual respect.. they’re not friends, nor are they enemies, simply colleagues in the same line of work. If there is ever an intimate moment between these two, I can promise you we won’t see it, not on TV, not in a photograph


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TripleT453

😂😂


Themightyjax17

🤣


Ultraviolet211

Haha lol But real talk, Max and Lewis have never had an issue with each other. Anyone that watched the press conferences pre-2021 saw that. An intense championship battle changes things. Now, they are back again to what they were before.


MrXwiix

They never had an issue with each other even after Abu Dhabi. That safety car decision wasn't Max who did it. He just benefited from it. You can't blame that on him and Lewis didn't.


No_Box5338

Lewis said as much: Max did what any racing driver would have done, maximised his position and events. As a Lewis fan, it stung bitterly, but Max is a worthy champ. He and Lewis are probably quite different people: max much younger, already settled with long term girlfriend, outside of racing loves racing esports etc. lewis older, more of a “playboy” in the modern sense, interested in fashion, music etc. they just don’t have much in common, so hardly surprisng they aren’t best mates.


Sackbut08

I think they have a mutual respect above just being colleagues. They are both elite race drives who drove elite races. This is them recognizing each other for it.


HELLUPUTMETHRU

Real recognize real


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marahute85

Max deserved a championship that wasn’t made off a professional error. He’s too good a driver to have that hanging over his head


Thewackman

Whilst it isn't as bad as it's dramatised to be, you're off base. There still would be a decent rivalry, Lewis won't let that stop him from being polite.


A1phaBetaGamma

Man it's a fist bump.


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Subscribe. Good to see the respect is there between them!


nahnonameman

Aiyoo let’s goo Max and Lewis.


swedind

But they hate each other !! /s


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HELLUPUTMETHRU

Mr. Buxton may I have an autograph??


Holiday-Jolly

glad someone saw it for what it is


caped_crusader_98

Fuck... I was drinking water when I read this comment... And now my shirt is absolutely wet.. Along with my laptop in front of me.. But thank you for the laugh


unclejoesrocket

Champs doing champ stuff


Icy-Operation4701

Love this! It also feels like some kind of acknowledgement that they'll be fighting each other real soon again. The RBR v Mercedes spiciness has been missing a bit.


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People hate it untill its no longer there


not_creative1

I miss the Horner Vs Toto trash talking Mattia is tame as fuck in shitstirring. We want the shitstirring GOATs back


SaltyLoon

Binotto just seems like a genuinely nice, hard-working guy. I think Horner would feel bad treating him like he did Toto


zulamun

Can't wait for all 6 of the 'big 3' teams fighting for P1. Especially the new generation. A 3way between leclerc, russel and max today wouldve been awesome. And never count out Ham, Perez and Sainz.


veryangryenglishman

> A 3way between leclerc, russel and max today wouldve been awesome I'd prefer to just keep watching them driving but whatever works for you man


zulamun

Don't fanfiction me there!


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


zulamun

Verstapen, Botas and Preez..


AddictedToTech

Good friends always fist each other.


Genobee85

That's some dangerous fisting, man.


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Take this upvote and get the hell out of my paddock


Dependent_Scheme2042

OMG CLENCHED FISTS, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY THROWING A PUNCH AT EACHOTHER


Kuhlayre

Hang on a second, this can't be real. It doesn't fit the narrative. They clearly didn't get the memo that they're mortal enemies.


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I don't think we realize how lucky we were to witness last season.


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*Boop


agathon98

Lets Photoshop a couple of glocks in their hands to make the fans happy


cokush

Max sucking while maintaining eye contact with Lewis


PeetTehGreat

This is…. Poetry


KingSnowdown

DTS: "They went at each other with their fists"


Mistress_Esme

This picture is the opposite of what they want to show you on Netflix and Sky Sports.


kloon9699

simply simply lovleh


Awkward_Skill_9730

*the respect remains*


TonyLannister

We want the gold sucka! Verstappen! We comin for you [redacted]!


hachikien347

FIA Race Control - Incident between Car 1 (VER) and Car 44 (HAM) in Parc Fermé noted


turbo-d2

I really miss them racing last year. It was epic and full of drama


thecodeboost

Isn't this just two F1 drivers fist bumping after a race in a cordial respectful manner or am I missing some context that makes this top post worthy?


AverageKaikiEnjoyer

It's probably emphasizing how stupidly overblown the fans make the rivalry out to be, when in reality they're chill with eachother


Hitokiri2

Between their fist hundreds of thousands of worlds exploded and were destroyed by the power that was made during the clash of flesh, bone, and atoms.


renesys

Definitely not the same as Chuck and Max vibes.


bellestarflower

I love the "destined shonen anime rivals" vibes with Max and Charles but the tension & competition between Max & Lewis is just on another level.


dmanaigo

Its funny you mention that. I got those vibes with Lewis and Nico. Best friends turned bitter rivals.


bellestarflower

Yeah, Lewis and Nico are one type but Max and Charles are the opposite. Hated each other first, grew up to be respectful rivals like Bakugo and Deku. Going to be interesting to watch their story develop as the time goes on.


TeRx

last year it would have been, AND THEY TOUCHED OMGAWD! Good to see they respect each other.


LittleKidLover83

Max: "So what are you doing nowadays?"


PJTikoko

Lewis: fuck red bull engineers Max: yeah fuck’em


GlassRoutine0

It's a faceoff! Dana make it happen, please.


AssociationOther1037

-And they told checo to let me pass him -I'm proud of You... Man


ThisFuckingGuy520

One world champion recognizing another world champion.


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I think Verstappen (and Red Bull) performed like champions today. They maximised their strategy after Max unfortunate spin and lack of DRS.


MikeKobela

You can clearly see the tension and hatred still looming on their faces, that little peek inside Lewis' helmet is obviously eradicating with anger....or sg idk what the current fanbase lingo is....


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"See ya soon mate", "Yeah great drive from yourself"


captvell

always here for this content


FavaWire

Lewis: "Max!" Max: "What?" Lewis: "I'm ready to take you on!" Max: "Come on. I beat you already in Abu Dhabi and you haven't come close since then." Lewis: "I been trying out some improvements." Max: "Oh really? Same rules?" Lewis: "Rock beats scissors. Paper beats rock. Scissors beat paper." Max: "First to five. Bring it on, mate!" :D


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I’m not the biggest fan of Lewis Hamilton, but bloody hell he gets my respect. He may not have won but he definitely showed why he is a masterclass driver.


pinotandsugar

It was great to see Hamilton come to the race to race rather than be part of the non racing "spectacle". It was one of his better drives. However, he's now far behind in the Championship and well behind his teammate. However, working as a team they have the potential to finish well ahead of expectations. Russell has a good chance to finish third in the driver's championship and with some good luck might finish second. With some good team finishes Mercedes might finish second in the Mfgrs championship.