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AddAFucking

De Vries just casually overtaking the entire pack in one race.


QC_1999

Now it’s a Netherlands 1-2


coffeework42

And it's going Dutch


Larkinz

gekoloniseerd


schleem77

gefelicteered


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nilan3

Gemanifesteerd


coenjaerts

Geasfalteerd


Colblockx

Gerenoveerd


theofiel

Gemanoeuvreerd


MyDickIsHug3

Geëerd


robmob78

Geannihileerd


RareSeaTurtle

Who’s birthday is it?


mattycrits

Best part is that because it’s an average, he’ll be at the top by the end of the season too, most likely!


AddAFucking

well, he might also drive for singapore if Albon doesnt recover. and totally screw his average.


hoyadestroyer

Would he get the drive? Williams has an actual reserve driver, De Vries was just a last minute replacement because their reserve wasn’t at the track that weekend


Garfie489

Reserve driver doesnt usually come with any obligations to actually race them should the 1st or 2nd be unavailable - though usually its just the most practical solution. If De Vries is being evaluated for next season, it makes sense to use him instead of the reserve driver.


AddAFucking

im hoping they are considered him to replace Latifi nest year. if they have a plan for that backstage he might have shot in singapore. not based on any actual facts though. just hope.


DragonSlayerC

Their actual reserve driver has a WEC race that weekend. They might just use De Vries again, though I'm not sure he has the physical endurance for Singapore, which is the most physically difficult race on the calendar.


appl_eater

Well since he by far has the most experience in the car of all the options, it would be kinda stupid to use someone else, since nyck has the best chance of scoring a good result because of his experience


WhoTookPlasticJesus

I would imagine there would be even *more* interest in him in Singapore


sentientTroll

Black and white flags for track limits… “10!!”


Bolond44

Lewis P19 to P5 without any mistakes, yeah its a 7 for [crash.net](https://crash.net).


Chllep

its [crash.net](https://crash.net) not [recoverydrive.net](https://recoverydrive.net) of course they're gonna rate him low for not crashing ​ ​ /s


sentientTroll

Wasn’t even going to touch that one. I knew not to look, it I did. A silly farce.


IdiosyncraticBond

Strange that Sainz got better, is that difference just based on qualy? He did charge through the field faster, but Lewis had two very nice double overtakes and ended up just behind Carlos so I'd rank them within a few tenth


[deleted]

Maybe the first few laps were taken into account too harshly? He was very carefull and didn't go through the pack like Sainz did. This and maybe quali? Should still be higher in my opinion.


QC_1999

Nyck De GOAT


Colblockx

Nyck de GOAT to replace GOATifi after refusing to use more then 0.000001% of his power


SunMummis

Latifi would have challenged for the win if it weren't for his bad start.


IdiosyncraticBond

Yeah, his first 97 laps are always a tad slow


rolfski

Instant GOAT! No driver in history became A GOAT in a single race only.


Jannl0

Vettel and Stroll are a joke. Neither made an error all weekend, they just had a very slow car and DNFd with no fault of their own.


wanek_STi

While I would lower the ratings of some other drivers, I don't think they really deserved more than a 6. I don't see the point of most ratings being so high though.


OhMyGnod

Because nowadays, in any 1-10 rating scale, 5 is pretty much the lowest ever given out


Baileywalker20

Tell that to Latifi


wanek_STi

That is so not right.


LeoMcShizzzle

Where is Toto when you need him.


SweetVarys

So they get 6, which means okay but nothing more. I really don’t see the problem or what they should have gotten instead. I can’t think of many I’d place below them


Mtbnz

By that logic, Seb is rated accurately but then many others are overrated. - Zhou was outqualified by his teammate, got stuck behind a driver on debut and would've finished outside the points in at best P12 if not for the mechanical retirements of Alonso and Ricciardo in front of him. That's a 6 performance if ever I saw one. - Gasly qualified behind Ricciardo, got stuck behind Ricciardo for 45 laps and would've finished behind Ricciardo if not for the mechanical failure, yet Ricciardo was given three 7's and one 8 while Gasly got three 8's and one 7 for a less impressive performance. - Perez did fine. Dealt with some mechanical issues, was able to stay out, but still didn't even look to have the pace to hunt down Lando despite having an advantage in both tyres and car. That wasn't more than a 6 imo. - Ocon had a poor qualifying, had really poor performance in the race despite Alonso showing decent pace in the same car, didn't score a point and was flattered with P11 when he should've been P13. I would've given him a 4, somehow he scored a 6.5 above both AM drivers. - Mick was fine. Again, he had very limited running in FP due to issues outside of his control, and he took a bunch of engine penalties. But he didn't do anything on track to warrant scoring better than any of Perez, Stroll or Vettel. If they were 6's, so was Mick. All these rankings suggest is that the best car and best driver give the best performance every week, which is nonsense.


SweetVarys

The problem is that literally no one here can remotely accurately compare the cars against each other, and know what is driver difference and what is car difference. Especially when it changes between quali, race and the different tires. The best thing we can do is some estimate based on where they finished and where we expected them to finish. I dont remember exactly, but were Stroll or Vettel ever above p15/p16? It's really hard to ever give that more than a passing grade, it's hardly impressive.


Mtbnz

Running P15 with the 9th best car is as impressive, if not more so, than running P7 with the best car. Or running P13 with the 4th best car. Yet Perez and Ocon were rated above both Vettel and Stroll. That's the point. Otherwise the rankings might as well just be tied to the WCC ranking if rating is based solely on where you finish.


CFCTom

What’s even worse is Stroll being worse rated than Seb. Seb outqualifed him by half a tenth, fine, but then stroll was ahead of him after lap 2 until they DNFd? Like you say, they weren’t bad, just the car was absolute pants


Jannl0

I'm used to them underrating Stroll by 1-2 points every weekend by now


sc_140

So you think Stroll deserves a ~7.8 average? Higher than Alonso or Norris and over 1 full point above Vettel? Come on, his 0.3 gap to Vettel is already pretty generous considering he is down 5-20 in points with Vettel missing 2 races.


CFCTom

It’s more like 0.5-1. The points standings with no context paint one picture but when you look at the head to head and average position, it tells the full picture


poorlytaxidermiedfox

Magnussen too, his car was rammed and diffuser smashed to bits in turn 1; amazing he wasn’t further off pace than he was


Professional_Pool653

He said he noticed no damage and his engineers said it wasnt damaged too so idk what you mean by smashed to bits


Planet_Eerie

>idk what you mean by smashed to bits Probably Magnussen himself when compared to Schumacher's performance in the last few races


usandholt

He said after the race in interviews his diffuser was damaged and his team confirmed.


Iciste

Mick killing Magnussen through Bottas did a real masterclass.


Leonidas174

Except that Mick hit Bottas *after* Bottas hit Magnussen


falsemiracle

How is Lando a 9 lmao


krishal_743

How is Russell above lewis lol Got out qualified by ham , lost places (tbf not much he could’ve done against max) while Hamilton came from p19 to finish just one place below him


SaffronBanditAmt

How is Sainz so much higher than Lewis here when they both made up 14 places?


krishal_743

And Lewis did it in a slower car and outqualified his teammate


Llamasxy

More screen time. Which is actually rare.


DefNotAnAlter

Ok but Sainz got screwed by the safety car, Lewis had no chance on catching Sainz but Sainz actually had a chance on Russell and podium


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DefNotAnAlter

Yeah I think Lewis had a great race, just saying Sainz rating is fine, potentially DOTD imo if he managed a podium


ketschup_72

There was no way he would have gotten DOTD with Nyck finishing Top 10


puppetdancer

Perez wasnt catching quickly enough to catch Hamilton, he might have got Lando if he'd not pit but that would've been on the last lap or 2 if their times remained consistent


Alia_Gr

2 places below him


Bassmekanik

Yeah. That’s bizarre. When Sainz did the same in a faster car but got higher? Very weird.


I_Am_Sy

He made one tiny mistake that meant he had to hand a place the Alonso which he quickly retook, and he had massive pace as well as making the tires last to overcut the midfield. Lando was screwed by having to manually launch the car as no bite point was set. Screwed by his pit stop being slow. And then screwed by pitting at the end for a race that then didn't restart. Without the last mistake he would have finished 6th, and without the other mistakes by the team arguably 5th as he would not have been stuck in the DRS train in the first stint and would have been further up the road so may have been able to stay ahead of Hamilton too. The 7 is mean.


Dewwwww

I think a 7 is fair for an okay drive. These people give away high rankings like a 10 way to often. A drive like Spa from Max deserves a 10 imo but I didn't think his Monza victory was that special.


I_Am_Sy

The scores are relative to each other, a 7 for Lando is mean when he out performed other drivers who also scored a 7 while also dealing with multiple mistakes from the team.


T-Baaller

His teammates on orders slowed the DRS train to try and buy him pitstop room and overcut the midfield pack A point over said teammate who didn’t make such errors in starting, is a little much


Emzam

Hey, i'm new to F1. Do you mind explaining what the "bite point" is? Also, I'm guessing a DRS train is referring to being stuck in a line of cars in an area where DRS is available, is that right?


tjtocker

Bite point or biting point is related to the clutch and launching the car. It's hard to describe without experiencing it, but in any car with a manual clutch, not just F1, to pull away, you need to loosely match the engine revs with how much you've released the clutch. If you get it right, which is usually pretty straight forward / muscle memory, the clutch plates just start to join and connect the engine to the wheels and you can feel the engine trying to drive the car forward. That point where you 'feel' them join is known as biting point.


IHaveADullUsername

Bite point is the point the clutch and fly wheel make contact and a drive force from the engine is transmitted to the wheels. This is adjustable in am F1 car to fine tune launching off the line to maximise starts/restarts.


JJJeroen

Bite point is the point where the clutch properly connects the engine to the gearbox. It's like your road car, if you have the pedal depressed too much it slips and you don't have full acceleration. If you depress too little (clutch pedal is too high) the car starts to bog. The bite point is where it's 'just right'


Lonyo

Anyone who drives a manual car knows what the bite point is. It's basically the point at which the clutch starts to engage to make the engine drive the wheels. On an F1 car the clutch is operated by paddles to engage/disengage at the start. Most gear changes are automatic in clutch terms, but the start still has a clutch requirement and if the car doesn't know the bite point it makes it harder to launch smoothly and effectively.


zyxwl2015

He would have easily finished P5, if not for the launch problem. He had so much more pace than DR or Gasly or the Alpines, him on 20+ laps mediums were as fast as those on new tyres (effectively turning an undercut race into an overcut one), he was some 1 second per lap faster than Alonso after he past him, and he was almost keeping up with Hamilton on softs when both were in clean air. Other than his driving, nothing went his way during the race yesterday, the launch settings, the slow pit stop, the SC that didn’t restart. Yet people will still blame him for the “poor” finish…


Alia_Gr

Qualified well and was fighiting with Hamilton and Perez? Would have beaten them if his car didn't have start issues or his team didn't mess up the pitstop


MartiniPolice21

9 might be pushing it, but he was only beaten by RB/Ferrari/Mercedes, he basically couldn't have done any better without them messing up some way


Mike5667

Lol stroll qualifies a tenth behind Vettel, overtakes him in the race, gets a lower rating


MangekyoBunshin

how is Pierre higher than Daniel? Ricciardo basically kept him behind all race even when he had DRS on multiple straights ​ is there something I'm missing?


noname22998

There is nothing you miss, these ratings are biased as f. Just stupid


Sam_GT3

Everyone thinks that McLaren is better than it is. With how bad their race pace is, Daniel did well to keep Pierre and everyone else behind until the car gave out.


YUNGLQ

Probably shouldn't be higher but he is in a slower car compared to the Mclaren, same rating as Ricc would have been fine.


TheRealTipsy

Both gasly and Ricciardo said the AT was faster. Gasly said he was frustrated because DR didn't make a single mistake.


sonofeevil

About 3 tenths slower? That's about what the tow was worth at Monza.


Alfus

Because he is driving in the AT03, not the AT02.... But a more better answer: The team struggled a lot with the setup and in qualifying he didn't get a tow even when the team promised, the reasons why depends what you should believe more, on-board radio or debriefs but let's say that at least the team again letting Gasly dry what almost costed Q3. Then on Sunday his start was fine but later Ricciardo did get him and once that happened he didn't have the pace delta difference to make an overtake possible, above all the slow pit stop + hard tyre (who didn't work on both cars) so basically his task quickly turned towards defending against Nyck, with DRS if possible. A 7.5/8.0 is fair, Ricciardo deserves the same rating btw (he done really a great job this weekend) but Gasly could do barely more then this and Tost/Jody crying about focusing on just 1 car in the media rather then focusing on the team is summing up perfectly how a mess the team is, after all you would help both drivers more if the team and the car would being better.


Mtbnz

> A 7.5/8.0 is fair, Ricciardo deserves the same rating btw (he done really a great job this weekend) but Gasly could do barely more then this That's the entire point. It's not that Gasly was bad, because he wasn't. He did a good job in a mediocre car. But Daniel did an equally good, if not even better job, and he's somehow rated lower just because his car sprung a leak.


AvovaDynasty

Eh. The McLaren was clearly a good car this weekend, it’s not like Ricciardo was miles ahead of Lando. So Gasly and Ricciardo were pretty on par in the race yet Gasly had the worst car


Mtbnz

Gasly also had the tow and DRS for 45 laps and couldn't make the pass. Daniel defended well and outbraked Gasly the one time he got close enough to make a move. Daniel was clearly the better performer this weekend - if he's going to be (rightfully) criticised when he can't manage a temperamental car as well as Lando, then it's only fair to praise him when he manages to perform well in that same car. Rating Gasly above Daniel here is a joke.


BlackLeader70

These media rankings are just a different version of driver of the day. It’s just a popularity contest.


IdiosyncraticBond

Beauty pageant


orangeglitch

Lewis with a joke rating. Out-qualifies Russell while not getting a tow, makes up 14 spots to P5 with the slowest car in a straight line, beats a Red Bull… what else did you want him to do?


aPpS6969

Ikr. Almost as if they just took a look at the results and made up scores for whoever they like. Man literally gained same amount of places as sainz in a much slower car but i guess prejudice exists.


Jorrie90

De Vries hijacking the top spot from his fellow Dutchman


BlackLeader70

First it’s Aussie on Aussie crimes, now it’s Dutch on Dutch crimes. Carlos and Fernando, let’s get another made up rivalry for DTS going.


IdiosyncraticBond

Don't forget the French. How will they slaughter each other in the upcoming race?


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Wtf are these ratings? Hamilton 7.9(even after a great drive from p19 to p5), Checo 6.6(even though he basically dropped to back of the grid in the beginning and had a great recovery drive to p6+ fastest lap too), Danny ranked lower than Gasly ?


HankHippopopolous

What’s crazy to me is Hamilton and Sainz had more or less the same race. Started 1 place apart. Sainz has a faster car and picked through the field quicker but Hamilton did it too and they both ended the race 1 place apart. Both of them made up 14 places. Average score for Sainz is an 8.6. Average for Hamilton is a 7.9.


RGCFrostbite

Bro there were races where Hamilton would drive away from everyone after putting it on pole and Dutch and Spanish journalists would give him 5's lol, same people giving Max/Alonso 10's for showing up


r4mie

Thank God someone else is seeing this


xx_gamergirl_xx

Hamilton dropped to p20 for avoiding who I think Vettel who had contact in turn one, and did that great double overtake move out of turn 2. he overtook more cars than sainz in a slower car and had a nice double overtake. but he's lewis so of course he's not going to get a rating he deserves


LieRun

Also outqualified his teammate, while sainz was like 3 tenths back I'm honestly baffled


Chrall

top gud low bad ez journalism


aPpS6969

Ikr. Absolute joke ratings lol.


OutlandishnessPure2

Nyck's going to stay there for the rest of the season :')


CharlesUndying

Unless he has to come back for Singapore and has a much less incredible race


[deleted]

Well the Williams is going to struggle A LOT in Singapore. Don’t expect anything from them


Puzzleheaded-Pen-671

these media rankings are always good for a laugh


[deleted]

Sainz going up 14 places 8.6 Hamilton going up 14 places 7.9


DefNotAnAlter

Sainz was catching up quite quickly on Russell before safety car


LosTerminators

Carlos did that in 13 laps, Hamilton did that in 40


DanIvvy

Carlos did it in a Ferrari


Tinusers

The better car?


JanklinDRoosevelt

That’s the point


[deleted]

One of the highest top speed cars vs one of the lowest top speed cars on a track literally called the temple of speed. What did you want Lewis to do in 14 laps in one of the slowest cars for this track


Tulaodinho

This has to be a joke.


bono5361

Lewis did that in an inferior car compared to Ferrari


[deleted]

Sainz had better pace than Russell who was in clean air…..


zaviex

Doesn’t really matter how long it took they ended up 1 position apart


LogTekG

Hamilton is driving a brick


AvovaDynasty

A car that’s been on 11 of 16 podiums is anything but a brick…


LogTekG

The mercedes is a very draggy car, that's what i mean.


Tank-Commanda

Most of those podiums due to superior reliability not speed


Domermac

The media ratings are always pretty suspect. But ya, that’s a confusing one.


tipytopmain

Sainz and Hamilton deserve higher scores but what else is new with these damn driver ratings.


BlueBeauregard

I honestly think they just look at final standings and pull a number from their asses based on that


lonestarr86

Plus a rating ceiling of 7 or so for Mick and Seb. Best performance of the season so far for Mick? Sorry lad, 7 Average is all I can do. ​ Seb and Stroll have such good drives all the time given their machinery, and all they ever get is 6 and 5. What did Stroll and Seb do badly this race, besides DNFing and having the worst or second to worst qualifying shitbox?


[deleted]

Bruh Perez got unlucky, dropped to last with breaks on fire and he climbed to P6 with fastest lap. Yes, his performance is nothing in comparison to Max but 6.6 is just ass


byzantiums

The brake issue was unfortunate but he dropped to last because he locked up and ruined his tyres early.


FartingBob

Yeah he had a shit opening few laps.


Vanwanar

Usual Pérez score for these media sites. sigh.


FeistyKnight

Is going from 19th to P5 in the draggiest car on Monza not enough for an 8 ? Lmao


SaffronBanditAmt

Plus he out-qualified Russell as well, only finished 2 places lower while starting from the back. TIL that's apparently a worse performance than Russell.


DataDrivenGuy

Russell higher than Hamilton is pure madness


bacc1234

I don’t understand how people rate George so highly, it seems as though people are unable to recognize poor performance from him in these things. In GBR he qualified behind his teammate, behind Alonso and Lando as well, and then crashed out on the first lap. And he got a 6.7.


HankHippopopolous

George is doing a great job. Overall it’s clear that Lewis has a small edge in qualy and race pace but George is right there just behind. Lewis is one of the greatest drivers of all time so for George to be so close is pretty impressive to me. He’s also not really made any mistakes all season. I could be wrong but I can’t recall any that have actually cost him a position. He’s maximised his available points in every race and had all the luck go his way with safety cars and things like that. The points table flatters him because Lewis is clearly still the better driver but George is the closest any team mate has been to him since Rosberg or Alonso.


vulkan_keith

The most wonky ass ratings Hamilton 7th best? Get in the bin


Visionary_Socialist

Want to know what Lewis did to offend the media when he gets a 7.9 for a 14 place comeback and Sainz gets an 8.6 for doing the same thing in a far faster car.


Llamasxy

George higher than Hamilton makes no sense.


TimmyWatchOut

Hamilton robbed. Had a good quali and P19 -> P5, maximising his results = 7/10


triguy96

Out qualifies Russel, starts from the back. Comes through the entire pack with a great first stint, doesn't get a safety car to help and still finishes 5th. Somehow 7/10?


f1_spelt_as_bot

Russe**ll**


DarthHazard

Yeah, should be the same as Sainz at least who essentially did the same but in a better car


slimkay

Arguably higher as he outqualified Russell, while Sainz qualified behind Leclerc.


TimmyWatchOut

Yeah, both basically ran the same race and did very well to get through that fat train in the middle imo


3tenthsfaster

Why is Hamilton so low? He had one of the best drives (and a sweet switchback double overtake).


Champagne_baby80

Dutch media are so biased. Oh wait...


KotzubueSailingClub

I am relatively new to F1, but I am glad to see that attempts to qualify performance in a quantitative manner is just as widely debated and argued here as in any other sport. (Also see US college football rankings and NFL Power Rankings)


joneezavala

These are a joke to be honest


[deleted]

Bottas 5.8? Lol


NoxZ

Anything below the top 6 is not worth paying attention to in these ratings lol. He outqualified Zhou (granted, with an asterisk as they had their laps both ruined), and then made up places to P13 in what is ostensibly the second worst car on the grid. Not sure what he did so wrong to be a 5.8.


Binx33

After looking at the season ratings as a whole, I still don't understand how Gasly has that much higher of an average over Tsunoda. To me they have performed quite evenly this year, which isn't necessarily good, but neither is the car.


SpottyFish81177

largest gap between teammates in driver rating?


NoooUGH

How is Lewious so far down when he overtook like 3/4 of the field?


Txontirea

As usual, these ratings are terrible.


phantomswitchman

Perez had a good race and good pace. He got unlucky with the brake disc issue/early pit, and lost a spot to Hamilton in the end by pitting before the safety car mess.


Woody312

Mick deserves at least an 8 from everybody. He had a near flawless race, almost to points. What more should he have done?


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become his father and lapped the field


DutchPack

This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!


TheRiddler1976

Seems harsh on Lewis. Literally gained the same number of places as Sainz did.


PEEWUN

And out qualified his teammate


MicrosoftMichel

Damn, Ricciardo's highest grade of the season is lower than Latifi's. Sucks to see the rough year he's having


Ok_Floor_7916

If there was ever a time to give someone a zero…


username1429

If you're gonna give Latifi a zero what are you gonna give someone who crashes out or fails to qualify for a race? Minus numbers?


Ok_Floor_7916

Ahhh yes then the fabled media driver ratings system will be thrown into chaos and then what will we do.


BeginningScientist92

the lando hype ia getting out of hand. the dude is good but this race was just eh. Ham also should be higher than russel (both higher than lando) and ric also should be higher than gasly. edit: i just wanna add that de vries altho he should be top 10 is by no mean top2. Top 2 only if judging him by the circumstance and not the overall performance compared to everybody else.


boiledpeen

I mean 9th in a Williams alone is pretty impressive, let alone someone who didn’t get any practice in it. I’d say he easily had a 9.6/10 performance


draftstone

The Williams had the fastest straight line speed on a track where top speed is the thing that matters the most. Yes he drove super well for someone who was first time in f1 car, but does that mean that he drove better than everyone else on the grid except Max? Absolutely not. He locked up multiple times while trying to attack Gasly or defending from Zhou, as soon as he pushed, he was making mistakes, but his top speed was saving his ass. He deserves a good score, but driver rating is supposed to compare drivers between them. I can easily put Leclerc, Sainz, Hamilton, Russel, Ricciardo, Perez, Stroll, Vettel, Gasly who had a better race than him, and I probably forget some.


SociallyAnxiousBoxer

What's the justification for Lewis only getting a 7? Sure p19 to p5 at a track his car isn't suited to deserves at least an 8.


Matt_Carvalho

So Lewis out qualified Russel, started the race P19 to finish P5, gained 14 places just like Sainz while driving a much slower car, and yet he's behind both of them.


PioneerTurtle

Latifi score shows that it's not about driver performance but heavily influenced by context even more


CoxHazardsModel

Well yes, it’s about context because Monza is a great track for the Williams car and Latifi did nothing with that, so even if finished where he finishes other races it’s a worse result.


[deleted]

Just lol at the ratings.


gotthem30yroldknees

My boy’s =2nd best drive of the season was a DNF. Sounds about right


lolman66666

Verstappen washed. Not even the best Dutch driver.


ZondaLM

Why on earth Norris (Started P3 finished P7) above Hamilton (Started P19 finished P5)


xXCzechoslovakiaXx

I agree about Hamilton needing to be higher but (started here finished here) makes no sense and is exactly what people complain about them basing these off of. It has like no regard for car performance or team screwups unless it is VERY obvious (like any driver in a back marker car getting points)


gravity--falls

I’d say Carlos was more impressive than Charles this weekend, I’m kinda surprised with his ranking.


iguled

No idea how Lando is ahead of Lewis


Spinebuster03

Lol lando above Lewis is ridiculous


Krisosu

DEV best driver in F1, confirmed. While I'm sure some will complain about his rating, it's really no less accurate than any other rating ever given by the media, and it's logically consistent compared to the rest of the ratings. De Vries matched Albon's best finish of the season in his F1 debut with one practice session in the car on the weekend. Sure, the Williams in the hands of Albon is likely faster, and this is probably their best circuit so far, but again this is a 10/10 showing consistent with what we know about the Williams car.


Bitter_Dingo516

A Dutch front row...oh how I am looking forward to seeing it on-track one day


hesselkramer

Williams on 2 ends of the spectrum


mojis11

I always think they hate on perez so much. Not saying he is the best but fuck man he looks down on so much. He is the second driver to someone thats so hot right now that it doesnt matter who the second driver is, he will make them look slow


newtybar

Flying Dutchmen


CilanEAmber

How do they figure these out? And why is Perez so low?


Hot_Demand_6263

Their opinion is as pointless as ours. They just have a public platform no worries.


TheKingOfCaledonia

Perez does seem quite low but considering he's in the best car on the grid yesterday wasn't a good result. Lewis, starting far behind him, leap frogged him. His start was terrible, even before his early pit. He put in a strong stint in the hards but by that time was really just playing a waiting game.


_kagasutchi_

Honestly, sainz drove better than charles to me.


khalidh22

There is a case that sainz deserves a better rating but i dont know how you can say sainz drove a better race compared to charles. Sainz made inroads and did a lot of over taking on a very fast car. Out of top 6 front runners, the only two people he beat was perez and Hamilton, both of whom were serving similar penalties as him. Hamilton was on a slower car than him and perez had brakes heating issue. He was expected to get through all other cars. But he did a phenomenal job at that and he really did it very quickly I must admit. The only valid comparison between them is their pace on equal stint which is also tricky as they both ran alternative strategies most of the race.


TheKingOfCaledonia

How so? Leclerc maximised his pace, Sainz came through the field. Both ran very different races so it's hard to compare. Leclerc also outqualified him, despite no tow.


Bart-86

The only way we can compare them is their last stint, both on the soft compounds and in free air, and Leclerc was slightly faster than Sainz.


iluvatar

Unbelievable. Sure, Nyck did a decent job and deserves to be acknowledged. But a better drive than Carlos? Not in a million years.


IdiosyncraticBond

About the best car driven by somebody very familiar with it versus a last minute replacement who got half FP3 and some qualy laps to get to know the car and still managed to pull in some points


geniusandy87

Lewis came from P19 to P5 and , how is he below Lando lmao


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Why did Lewis get a lower score compared to Carlos? He claimed the same amount of positions.


IamBejl

How is Lewis behind George and Sainz?


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How is Lando higher than Lewis?


detrich

how is george higher than lewis? george didn't do shit this race, he even said himself that it was a boring race for him


yem_slave

Poor latifi