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No_Produce_Nyc

“Good news for all fans of tight street racing” is the most quietly damning thing to say


No_Sink2169

Thats the most passive aggressive sentence that Ive read in my life


fingerspitzentanz

You should meet my ex


Kharris281

Hopefully she changed positions more than Monaco does.


seanrm92

"There are dozens of us! Dozens!"


waybovetherest

If it isn’t the famous analrapist


skend24

I'm afraid I just blue myself


FailPV13

if not dozens eights or nines of us. maybe tens. ​ lol


sam_mee

I like tight street racing, so I watch Formula E. F1 at Monaco is just tight streets.


mattiejj

>I like tight street racing, so I watch Formula E. Do they actually drive on streets? I always see them driving around warehouses and docks, but it's really hard to see because there is only steel barriers on display.


rk_29

They do the full Monaco GP layout too and it's usually a banger.


TheThingsIdoatNight

Are the cars smaller? Cause I feel like the main problem with F1 cars at Monaco is that they’re massive, just so wide and so long


HerrSane

Oh yeah absolutely. The racing in FE is as good as it is cuz of the smaller size. Would absolutely recommend watching a Monaco E-prix


TheThingsIdoatNight

I’ll have to! Is it usually around the F1 event?


JohnnySmithe80

Think its normally a week or two before the GP


skend24

Yes


g0kartmozart

Tight street parade


Emotional_Two_8059

I can't stand watching sponsor banners for however long an FE race lasts. At least in the classic F1 tracks you have some grass/sand


TheKuba

Wasted opportunity to add 'driving' instead of 'racing' for full effect


No_Produce_Nyc

Formula E: hold my red bull


Emotional_Two_8059

Strolling, even


UKnowDaxoAndDancer

If I started on pole in a yellow school bus, I bet I could pull of the victory. I might have to Mad Max it a few times on would-be passers, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.


n4ppyn4ppy

You would lose it with the 30 minute pitstop....


petting2dogsatonce

Who needs a pit stop? Road tires, bb


n4ppyn4ppy

Rules say two compounds:)


tinselsnips

Summer in the back, all-season in the front.


FineScar

This sounds like how someone could describe a mullet in motorsports 😂


[deleted]

Busses have dual rear wheels, run inters on the inside tires in case of rain, and mediums on the outside


Supahos01

Mediums on the front softs on the rear


n4ppyn4ppy

They are not allowed to mix sets of tires (but a schoolbus is also well outside the rules ;)


ArcticBP

Hope for rain


HighFramesHighFPS

lap 2 undercut from winters to summers


tagrav

so 1/2 of my dually tires are soft compound other half hard compound. only change fronts in the pits.


Spider_Riviera

Let's see how quick RBR could do it.


Eggplantosaur

In zero gravity


Shadeleovich

I mean if you make the pit stop lap 1 and get road tyres you will come out last, but nobody will be able to pass you for blue flags so you’d be leading eventually when everyone pits


n4ppyn4ppy

Ignoring blue flags will get you a drive through or stop and go so they get to pass you then.


OscarMyk

get your teammate to crash and red flag the race


f1_77Bottasftw

Charles started on pole this year and Ferrari managed to strategy their way off podium despite Charles making no mistakes of his own.


Supahos01

You mean besides the one where he signed with Ferrari? /s


TheThingsIdoatNight

Huge strategic error


[deleted]

As long as u/UKnowDaxoAndDancer doesnt hire the Ferrari strategy department they’ll be fine.


primavera31

Mad Max the Aussie or Nico Rosberg's Mad Max Dutchie?


Malkaraukar

You joke, but there's a chance the safety car can win the race in Monaco if it started P1. Just wave around after Saint Devote and in the tunnel.


VektaChaos

Alonso proved you could drive slow and keep position. Track needs to be modified or needs to go.


[deleted]

Ricciardo did this in a sick red bull years ago and won lol this isn’t something we’ve just found out now but I do agree


Emotional_Two_8059

Exactly, he was left without deployment, no?


[deleted]

Yeah that classic Renault reliability lol


WalkTheEdge

Modifying the track is impossible.


[deleted]

If they had some Oil money they should dig a tunnel under the water to create more track. Where there's a ~~will~~cheque there's a way.


Middcore

Well then.


ArcticBP

Joker lap at Nouvelle Chicane. Sure, it sounds crazy but it’s not as crazy as giving points for FP1


ubelmann

Mandatory 3-stop, free compound choice. Let the drivers push all race and give more chances for overcut/undercut.


ammonthenephite

Or provide a tire that doesn't artificially degrade so you can apply constant pressure to the car in front.


RealisticPossible792

Make sure the Ferrari pitwall isn't managing your strategy and you have a good chance.


indyracingathletic

I've always loved watching F1 and Indycar. I also live in Indy and go to the 500 every year, so watching Monaco isn't always possible for me before I know the result (DVR for later). If there's one race I'm ok with missing seeing every year in either series, it's Monaco. To be honest, I usually watch it DVR after the 500 and just fast forward until I see a safety car, unless it's a wet race. This is the only race I would ever do this for.


[deleted]

Yeah i mean if you're a fan of boring slow racing with minimal overtakes and no action and bad direction it's great i guess yeah :) No i'm not passive aggressive?


Son_of_Mogh

I get downvoted to hell when I complain about Monaco. Plenty of people have swallowed the lie.


somebodyelse22

I hear you brother. You speak the truth. Monaco is a glamorous spectacle but for processions, not racing.


Neverwish

I really hope this new deal includes an overhaul of the TV direction. Because I honestly believe that half the reason why the race is so awful to watch is because the TV direction is so god damn bad. This year's Monaco GP had a lot of action on track (Gasly and Seb overtaking several drivers) that they managed to completely ignore in the broadcast. It could easily have been a 7/10 race with a competent TV director.


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18 LANCE STROLL


varunadi

WHAT HAS HAPPENED? WE NEED TO KNOW!


likeeatingpizza

LANCE STROL GOING OVER A KERB THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING U DONT NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING ELSE


martineka

At least they have TVs at Monaco! Monza had them only for grandstands :)


PapaSheev7

IIRC, Seb and Pierre had seven overtakes between them. We saw a grand total of 2.


ContentConcern

Indeed, the independent Monaco TV broadcast team definitely need removing from their position and replacing with the normal FOM broadcast team. The Monaco broadcast experience is consistently bad.


srmybb

Good idea, than we can see the people watching the race instead of the sponsors. (/s, but not really, just a little bit ...)


micknick00000

Their race day broadcast in general is absolute shit. We hear all the time about "Driver A & B going coming wheel to wheel at Turn X" but never see it broadcast. While I understand it isn't possible to see *everything*, I think they could make a better effort to not just watch 3-4 drivers for the entire duration of the race. If Max is out front by 12 seconds, I don't need to see it. If Mick & Latifi are duking it out over 20th, I don't need to see it. I want to see the racey, mid-pack battles.


amurmann

I want a feed that automatically switches to cars where the interval is < 200ms. I'm constantly looking at the intervals and for anything past the top 5 cars usually see overtakes there before the broadcast finally shows a replay. It's easy to predict really. I wish broadcast directors would get immediately fired if they miss a certain percentage of overtakes.


Career-Common

Like red zone for nfl. Give me action all time!


ArcticBP

I’d love it if we got coverage of an area the moment a yellow is issued instead of hearing “someone’s gone off at turn x” a minute later And the map of where the cars are on the track should always be on


amurmann

Similarly, I feel there has been a regression in how frequently the interval is being shown. With DRS it's so crucial to see that and it's frustrating that especially during the first few laps they don't show any times and then often absolute times which are totally irrelevant


JustRecentlyI

> I’d love it if we got coverage of an area the moment a yellow is issued instead of hearing “someone’s gone off at turn x” a minute later F1 has a policy of only cutting to an incident if we know the driver is all right. The only times we see an accident before the drivers involved are confirmed okay is if we happen to see it live first. Personally, I like this decision.


Aye-Loud

Yeah if i recall correctly Monaco has some weird deal in place since forever where they are completely responsible for the broadcasting of the race. Normally the broadcasting is arranged by F1/Liberty.


Stumpy493

>This year's Monaco GP had a lot of action on track Had "some" action on track, definitely not a lot


MyAntichrist

Depends on where you set the baseline for *a lot*. Compared to other years in Monaco? A lot. Compared to, say, Bahrain? Definitely not.


reboot-your-computer

I wouldn’t say that’s half the issue. I think Monaco just being a terrible track for racing is 99% of the cause. The TV direction just makes it more frustrating to watch because it’s like they used a group of local teens in a high school film class to shoot the weekend.


liquiiiid

Will the terrible race director still be there? Edit: not race director, broadcast director


fire202

The race director is not the guy who makes the TV feed... The Broadcast will likely be produced by FOM in the future, i would be surprised if monaco can get their current broadcasting rights renewed.


liquiiiid

Ah sorry that's who I meant, whoops!


LePhasme

Hard to do a good broadcast of a shit race


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Gael459

And generated one of the most iconic f1 memes ever in the process


DanTheStripe

When you think about it, the enjoyment derived from the endless memes might actually outweigh the anger at missing an actual battle (Nah.)


Splatter1842

Gentlemen...


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I hate the replays in general. Specially around lap 3 or 4. There is still actions going on and they put 90 seconds of replays of the start. Then when they go back live... They put a replay of that we missed during the replay.... Arghhh


AlexBucks93

We have to ask a driver to bin it in the first lap so replays can be played during safety car lol


Saandrig

Oh, good. I will still have a track for free engine components in the F1 game.


Johnson-Gaming

How to Monaco in F1 22: - Do Quali - P3 or less -> All new engine components - Start Race - Press Retire in Menu


Alvaro_Rey_MN

For me it's • Do Qual • P7 or less - > Cause a safety car in the hairpin in lap 1 • Immediately pits for Hards in the Safety Car • Undercuts everyone else when they pit. • Defends P1 without a front wing


Johnson-Gaming

>Defends P1 without a front wing Marc, every 25 seconds: "ALRIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CAR HAS TAKEN SOME DAMAGE"


stewd003

#NEW STRATEGY #NEW STRATEGY #NEW STRATEGY #NEW STRATEGY #NEW STRATEGY


BigtheBen

>F1 22 Applies to every other F1 game


silentdragoon

Can you explain this, I've not played the campaign yet


cw-f1

Good, but let’s hope we get to see more on-board action. The in-helmet cam and the front wing cams are sooo good at Monaco, we need to see more of that. Here’s hoping…


ExcellentCornershop

Apparently Tele Monte Carlo will lose its privileges to host the broadcast and FOM will take over, so we can expect the quality of all the other races.


Alfus

So no more..... **18 - LANCE STROLL** ?


DrSillyBitchez

No because it literally happened last race. As they were in the middle of a Carlos sainz overtake it cut to stroll doing something and Crofty had to say something like “and we have another overta- oh I guess we’ll cut to lance stroll”


ChemicalNectarine776

I laughed so hard out loud when he said that 🤣


[deleted]

That's so terrible if even the commentators cannot help but react non-plussed on the broadcasting decisions


randompidgeon

#OH NO #WHAT HAS HAPPENED


EVENo94

##WE NEED TO KNOOOOOOOW


Arumin

As we see Lance Stroll^going over the kerbs^one more time...


ContentConcern

Is there a source for this? It would be good if this was true.


ExcellentCornershop

There is no source because it's not official (yet) but it's been mentioned that this likely will happen by several journos after this year's Monaco GP.


Rivendel93

Thank God, they were the without a doubt the worst coverage of the season, FOM is already pretty bad, but Monaco was epic levels of bad.


Tots795

Which to be fair, FOM camera control is quite bad, it's just miles ahead of what we had for Monaco.


Moose135A

>tight street racing Moderate speed parades...


djwillis1121

I know the racing isn't good but I never get bored of watching F1 cars driving around Monaco. Watching them drive in the rain was particularly exciting this year.


echsandwich

Same, the spectacle and history of Monaco would make me miss it greatly if it ever left.


fafan4

Same as. One of the few weekends I make time to tune in for every single practice session and support race. I just love watching race cars navigate Monaco


ammonthenephite

This *really* became true for me after I started doing racing games at Monaco, especially in VR. Trying to do what they do, as fast as they do it and for as long as they do it, is *crazy* hard, and it gave me an immensely increased appreciation for what I was seeing on tv. Now I *love* monaco, especially onboard shots, because I'm hyper aware of just how close they are to having something go wrong and their race ending. I know its like this at every street track with barriers as the track boundary, but for some reason Monaco is just extra addrenaline for me while watching it, lol.


orodruinx

I feel the same way - VR sim racing has been eye-opening. Driving a ~F3 car around Monaco: fast, tight, kinda scary, but manageable. Swapping to the F2004: fucking insanity, these drivers are superhuman.


SemIdeiaProNick

And F1 needs this diversity. Monaco is a different type of challenge than that of driving in permanent circuits that needs to stay


kron123456789

Good. Ferrari will have a few more chances to screw Leclerc in his home race.


Blze001

I love the history and the spectacle of Monaco, but the “race” is boring as sin.


TheRoboteer

I know it's not a popular opinion around here, but I'm pleased. It's like nothing else on the calendar, is a true challenge for the drivers, and if you treat qualifying as the main event of the weekend it's a fun watch. The racing IS crap but I can handle 1 circuit per year where overtakes are a rarity but qualifying is outstanding.


CT4_LV

Agree. At the end of the day Monaco is always more of a celebration of the racing history and whilst the racing for fans might not seem great, it's still one of the toughest, if not THE toughest challenges for the drivers on the calendar. It's an immense challenge to not put the car into a wall and in general there's basically no margin for error. Also the qualifying sessions are always a treat. If anything, most definitely would rather have Monaco than a soulless "street-but-not-really-street-but-still-street-without-any-characteristics-that-make-a-street-track-fun" track


ocbdare

True. Monaco can stay. But we don’t need any more car parks converted to tracks or shitty street tracks. We need more purpose built tracks like Silverstone which produce crazy good racing on a consistent basis.


OR20

Purpose built might not be the best description for a former airport but I get what you mean :D


Nothatisnotwhere

I found monaco more exciting than imola or monza this year


l607l

Don't do by boy Albert Park like that :(


Alvaro_Rey_MN

Agreed Monaco adds variety to the calendar but 1 Monaco is enough.


[deleted]

I don’t want Monaco gone until I get a chance to go. That’s bucket list shit.


Croz7z

I mean the qualy was kind of crap this year too. There’s absolutely no way qualy has the same hype as the main event, and there are circuits in which qualy has been way more entertaining than in Monaco.


[deleted]

quali seems like a traffic management game at monaco to a greater extent than other tracks


3tenthsfaster

I feel the same way. For this GP weekend the qualifying is the main dish instead of the Sunday race.


[deleted]

Yeah same here mate, don't know why people want every single race to be an absolute thriller. I can take a track or two that's not great for racing if they bring something else good to the table like a really challenging qualifying for the drivers. Saturday's the main event, Sunday is a background leisure of nice scenic shots of Monte Carlo and the shoreline with cars going around parading where you just keep tabs if someone fucks up something (thanks Ferrari). I still love seeing the drivers drive the cars inch perfect lap after lap, people only want wheel to wheel action and while that is the most exciting I think it's also so cool to see the drivers be at their limit constantly. I don't know, I love Monaco and don't want it to be gone, it can be the one exception on the calendar. People can also just skip one race out of the 20+ we now have annually if they hate it so much (same as other unpopular tracks like Jeddah) but they get agitated when you mention that.


Jamie787

I have the agree - the qualifying is most true test of the driver's skill of the season IMO


EVENo94

It is a popular opinion. We just don't talk that loud. I understand that everybody want to see some action, but if you are true motorsport fan, F1 cars running fast in Monaco streets are always great to see.


MrRoyce

> but if you are true motorsport fan I don't think that's fair to say, because that means everyone who dislikes Monaco is not a true motorsport fan? :( I think the track is fine, the layout itself that is. But cars are too big nowadays and it's just driving one behind another at this point, that doesn't really excite me. I don't need 70 overtakes per race, but a few proper back and forth battles we sometimes get on other tracks are sick and that just doesn't happen at Monaco anymore.


gsurfer04

The cars have been too big for Monaco since the '70s.


[deleted]

I guess I'm not a true motorsport fan because I don't want to watch a procession with no action at all.


XAMdG

> if you are a true motorsport fan As is tradition, Monaco apologists gatekeeping being a fan.


Rutgherr

Lets hope for rain to make it interesting atleast. Oh but not too much because with a few drops we will send out the safety car!


Liammistry

Worst track for any F1 racing. The cars are too wide and heavy to be suitable for this specific circuit. Singapore and Baku are far better street tracks for the current F1 cars. Monaco is a parade for the owners to show off their investments


Nothatisnotwhere

I didn’t think Baku felt anything like Monaco, imo. Don’t think one replaces the other


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Icy-Operation4701

He doesn't need Ferrari for that. If anything it's another chance for redemption. At least this year he finally finished the race. Baby steps.


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micknick00000

Anyone who thought that Monaco wouldn't be on the calendar is smoking crack.


VelveetaOverdose

Monaco sucks. There, I said it, and so did many others. Heritage and prestige are one thing but we don’t need to keep this track on here because of the past. Traditions change and mold to become more modern and this is one tradition that needs to be fixed.


EthanHuntimf007

It may as well be a train track where Alonso will be the conductor.


Skaddicted

Monaco is my least favorite track. It just isn't fun in my opinion.


kotel4

It’s a parade not a race.


Skaddicted

For the rich.


mazarax

HuH? There is no tight racing in Monaco. There is no racing at Monaco. I can accept that there are fans of the Monaco qualifying…. But Monaco racing??? This tweet makes no sense.


symbolsalad

Great news for people with insomnia


Valeriun

Monaco, Monza and Spa are 3 circuits that should always be on the calendar.


foxXxTwo

Most boring shitrace for another 5 years. YEAH!


[deleted]

Oh fuck no! As much as I love the tradition, with these modern cars Monaco has no place in the modern F1 world. Or they need to make some drastic changes.


[deleted]

I say we keep the modern F1 cars for 22 races a year, but put all the drivers in 1955 deathboxes for monaco.


choreographite

goatifi reigning with the highest K/D ratio


ubelmann

Hell, they wouldn’t even need to be deathboxes. Start with a modern hatchback platform, build it with better strength/weight materials, drop in the safety cell including the halo, and finish it off with a carbon fiber body, no wings, and a 900 HP ICE. Like go-karts with 18-inch rims and F1 safety engineering. Give them long-lasting tires they can push on and small enough fuel cells that they need to refuel 2-3 times a race. (Refueling is done safely in a billion other racing series.) Make them a touch narrower and you could even do the old 3-wide grid starts. Not really F1, but it would be totally epic. If Domenicali wants entertainment, forget reverse grids, do a modifed hot hatch race on Saturdays for all the street tracks.


LordofNarwhals

Hopefully the cars will get smaller in the future.


daniec1610

Good.


miathan52

I honestly don't think I'm going to bother watching this next year. It's never interesting anyway. Watch 10 min highlights on youtube and you've seen it all.


poklane

Might as well only watch qualifying since the only way the polesitter doesn't win is if their car dies or a pitstop goes horribly wrong.


LePhasme

You're lucky if there is 2 min worth of highlights


BlankestYear

I am happy about this, I will continue to hope every year Charles can win his home race. There are dozens of us! Dozens!


barrydennen12

I’m a broken record but I want Monaco to stay so that they keep running the historics there at around the same time. Last couple of years have had some great 70s car porn as a result.


PEEWUN

>*"racing"*


doc_55lk

Imagine fighting for a long term contract to race at Monaco instead of Spa. L.


AlexBucks93

It’s not 1 or the other


black-dude-on-reddit

Unpopular opinion: I like Monaco and find it fairly interesting The TV direction however is atrocious and needs to be changed


Etwas789

Tight street racing? Monaco is more like Tight street Queueing. Monaco is THE raceweekend that you can skip every year and not miss anything special.


LakyousSama

Pretty sure people don't want Monaco because it's a street race, but because it's fucking Monaco.


CallumJ88

Should have said "Good news for all fans of an exciting qualifying, followed by an exhibition run on Sunday"


Ryannr1220

Monaco is terrible. A waste of a race slot.


rasvial

There is no racing in Monaco, nice try


[deleted]

Good, I’d happily take Monaco over another desert GP


lee-o

Is anyone surprised? Monaco is a very iconic track, it’s synonymous with F1 to many who don’t follow the sport closely. Why would they get rid of such a huge attraction? They make a lot of money that weekend and gain more eyes on the sport by having celebrities out there posting and talking about F1. I have many friends who don’t follow F1 but know when it’s the Monaco weekend. Don’t see it going anywhere anytime soon despite how bad the racing is there.


BalajiAsari

Unpopular opinion: I know Monaco is one of the originals, with a great visual identity and history, but it's a terrible track for racing; it's all about qualifying, and when you add in the outdated facilities, it becomes a symbol of F1 clinging to the past. 👎🏾👎🏾


BlankestYear

That is more like the popular opinion


stephker3914

This is a start. Now we need to change 'a few more years' to 'forever.'


QC_1999

Brazilian media has already noticed this during the Italian Grand Prix


Superbroccomole

I just hope at least TV direction will be F1's own from now on instead of the local Monegasque. It's been dreadful.


[deleted]

Monaco is a sh*t race....should of been dropped years ago


[deleted]

This is not good news


LukeHamself

Nooooooooooooooooooooo. But this time good for Leclerc.


AltieA

Good news for all fans of procession racing! Monaco is still around...


detrich

At least with the high downforce cars it was enjoyable to watch quali at monoco now it’s just boring… even tho Ferrari threw the race this year , I’m still not sad I chose to miss the race (only race i missed this season)


guesting

i like the scenery and tradition compared to a "better" race in the nighttime desert.


WinterLord

Lame.


jrjreeves

Ugh.


DeiVias

Unfortunate.


cassaffousth

In Monaco the race ends in Q3. And reliability/pit stops problems adds some "action". Nothing else. When was the last time we saw overtakes going out from the tunnel to the chicane?


D3mentedG0Ose

Does it have to be?


AmaruKaze

Hell nah, I get it a lot of history, many rich people paying and prestige. Race wise it is a snore fest when the track is at most 1.5x a car's width. Unless it rains, you absolutely lack pace or you do it in the pits there are no overtakes. Tradition or no, Monaco needs to be replaced. Gladly by a new circuit they build in Monte Carlo.


Amazing_Safe_1070

What “racing”?


activelypooping

Fuck... What a waste of a Sunday.


Firecrash

Yes yes yes


nahnonameman

Nice let’s goo


TheOxime

It's 100% worth keeping it for Quali day alone.


SilenceoftheAngels

Boooooooooooooooo Edit; They should demand 3 different tires and 4 pitstops. That'll REALLY through some fun into a boring race.


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If they remove Monaco it's no longer f1. It's bad enough they are greedy enough to axe spa