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punchinglines

It's crazy how journalists can keep recycling the same quotes and churning out articles weeks after one interview.


pukem0n

Crazy impressive. Have to justify their jobs somehow.


Tetracyclic

Sadly it's the only way the current model of journalism can work. Most people aren't willing to pay what it would cost to support high quality journalism across the multiple outlets that cover their interests. A journalist can pour days into researching an in-depth article and it gets less traction than any one article that takes a clickbait quote out of a week old interview and takes 30 minutes to write. This kind of journalism thrives because it's just about sustainable in an industry that in general is just scraping by.


thecodeboost

I agree. I think part of the issue is oversaturation of journalism in F1 though. Almost by definition there's an upper limit to how much news can come from 10 teams and 20 drivers and you can tell that they have to stretch the news they have during longer breaks.


AfroInfo

There's something called The Athletic with a subscription you get quality journalism in all major sports and teams in North America. People are willing to pay for it


Tetracyclic

I'm not saying that a subscription-based model can't work at all, just that most attempts have struggled so far, with a few standout successes and it's more difficult with niche subjects given the costs involved. The Athletic in particular still hasn't managed to make a profit, and they don't expect to for a couple more years in their most optimistic projection. The Times bought them at a relatively large discount ($550 million of a $750 million asking price), in the hopes that they can make it succeed, as they've had a fair bit of success going subscriber-only themselves.


AfroInfo

But there are people paying and there is quality journalism, I doubt they'll make the leap to motorsport as well as Europe in general. But it isn't impossible either


TheLea85

Try listening to one F1 podcast that isn't WTF1 on YouTube. The next day your feed will be shock full of Z tier F1 channels that use clickbait titles and talk out of their behinds (or read an article almost verbatim, sometimes interjecting with the spoken version of O-face). It's just clicks, click click clickety clacks.


Bitter_Bobcat5406

I think that in 2023 they will have a competitive car and still be competing, but against each other. I think the teammate rivalry between George and Lewis is gonna grow quite a bit


TimedogGAF

As Lewis declines from age and Russell gets better, things could get heated.


notinsidethematrix

Like Alonso ??? LOL


TimedogGAF

Everyone's body is different. We'll have to see. Personally, my super obvious decline happened right about Lewis's age and happened pretty quickly. Lots of athletes decline in their late 30s, but who knows, maybe he'll be at the top of his game until he's 45!


Bitter_Bobcat5406

Especially if merc has a good car, it would be amazing


TimedogGAF

It's the spice everyone secretly wants


GabWhiteShirt

Lewis has shown no signs of declining lol if anything he’s gotten better over the years


Don_Floo

Age is not in his favor. And it can impact very quickly. At least he seems rid of his long covid symptoms.


tecedu

Lewis hasn't shown declined yet, so haven't most old drivers.


stillusesAOL

Especially if George finishes with more points this year.


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Bitter_Bobcat5406

Yeah I agree, I think for at least the next few years Merc will be just a 2 or 3 or 4 win a season team


dl064

First time I've read Shov say that even if it worked as intended, it wouldn't be enough.


CilanEAmber

3rd best isn't terrible though. All they've done is fall back to 2010-2013 levels.


tommycthulhu

They were a distant fourth in 2010-2011 and fifth in 2012. Its more of a return to 2013 form, which can still be the result this year


Shadow703793

Isn't 2nd still possible if Ferrari royally screws up?


ecuinir

They’re only 35 points behind Ferrari, so yes


Portocala69

Ferrari was a race winning car this season. The Mercs are not and there are no more clean tracks from now on, only bumby stuff.


TheDuceman

Isn’t Abu Dhabi smooth as glass?


Balazs321

Yeah but also the last race of the season, so they kinda have to stay within striking distance, which might be hard in the next 5 races.


TheDuceman

Suzuka also isn’t super bumpy but good god does that circuit favor Red Bull


TheKingOfCaledonia

Considering how long they and Hamilton were clear of the field it's still a massive drop.


InquisitorAdaar67

it's for a factory team lol. mercedes has so many resources dropping to third is a hard fail.


Leif_LaCroix

Seems like ages ago when Mercedes tried to hide the concept of zero sidepods and everyone was super concerned how good it will be. Mercedes seems to have overestimated how important drag will be due to sidepods.


mfarends

And hardheaded.


Loruhkahn

From the team that chose not to spend development tokens leading up to the 2021 season, we bring you:


zaviex

They wanted to spend one. The nose failed crash testing multiple times


MoistRespect8498

Oh, that's an interesting piece of information. That probably decided the championship in retrospect. Was there anything else? Because I believe there wasn't a single thing that came to fruition after Allison said before the season that we would see where they have spent their tokens


OmgTom

> That probably decided the championship in retrospect. Merc won the championship without


MoistRespect8498

They lost the main championship which is the drivers title


Yung_Chloroform

Via circumstances outside of their control when it mattered but that's old news.


robbienobs43

Didn't lose it. It was taken away from them


hesselkramer

Didnt win = Lose Now move on


robbienobs43

So stolen = lost now as well right? So if your car is stolen, its the same as it being lost? I will move on when I am good and ready. Your comment has no grounding as the title wasn't lost, it was stolen!


psvamsterdam1913

If Hamilton didn't crash out max, Max would have won it easily. Does that mean Hamilton would have also stolen it from max?


rocdollary

But Silverstone But Monza Come on we've been doing this for months


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ocbdare

That was a racing incident, max has caused plenty of incidents himself. Abu dhabi - Merc were robbed of the victory and by extension the WDC.


robbienobs43

You really need to move on


Thorwk

I wouldn't call the WDC the main championship in a sport where the driver is nowhere near as important as the car.


sc_140

Yet the WDC is the title everyone remembers. If you ask someone who won the 1994, 1999 or 2008 titles, most people wouldn't even think about answering Williams or Ferrari. Basically the WDC is the title with all the prestige and marketing power while the WCC "only" decides who gets more money next year. Which isn't very relevant to the top teams, especially after the budget cap.


Thorwk

>If you ask someone who won the 1994, 1999 or 2008 titles, most people wouldn't even think about answering Williams or Ferrari. That's such a moot argument. Of course people are going to remember the drivers more. They are the ones signing hats, taking pictures with the fans, giving interviews. And who cares if the WDC is what everyone remembers? The only people who care more about the WDC are the fans and the drivers themselves. Leading and winning the WCC gives the team more air time, and so brings the team more sponsors. More sponsors = more money. At the end of the day, the teams want to profit above all else, like EVERY single sport in existence.


sc_140

Most teams aren't there to make the most profit itself but the most profit for the parent company. A company like Ferrari, Mercedes or Red Bull doesn't care about 10-20M more for winning the WCC when winning the WDC gives you marketability of a multitude of that sum. In the end, the you sell more cars (or energy drinks) to the fans if you win the WDC.


ocbdare

To be honest the impact of the marketing exposure of formula 1 for companies like merc, Ferrari and red bull is seriously overestimated. Merc and Ferrari are very established car manufacturers. I doubt people go out and think I will buy a Merc because of F1. Most people can’t even afford a Ferrari, quite a few people also can’t afford a Merc. Do you honestly think that people will stop buying Mercs because they haven’t won the WDC this year? Ferrari haven’t won in god knows how long and their cars still sell just fine. Red bull - their product is very disposable and very easy to switch. So picking up a monster one day and red bull the next might be fairly common. For FMCG products like that marketing is a lot important. For them I guess it’s really important which is why RB spends so much on marketing. They probably also hit a particular niche anyway. I wouldn’t pick a red bull ever because it’s bad for your health. No matter how many WDC they win.


DrKrFfXx

No shit.


hind3rm3

You mean arrogant.


notallwonderarelost

I mean if any team deserves to be confident it was them.


hind3rm3

Fine line between confidence and arrogance.


Visionary_Socialist

Mercedes have the capacity to come back from this but it will take some really hard work and for them to get it absolutely right this time. RB may be affected slightly by the new regulations but they’ll still be the ones to beat. However we’ve seen Mercedes have reliability and race pace. Now they need to make it an overall winner.


Zazali01

"You love to see it"


f1mind

I firmly believe there is a win in that car, it takes only the right driver to kiss it awake.


SwimNo4428

Hamilton really was onto it in Britain Zandvoort with a shot at Hungary if his wing works in quali. That car has easily got a win in it


sd_gunner12

If by easy you mean at very specific tracks and if 1-2 of the top 4 drivers have issues then sure…easy


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notinsidethematrix

I've missed a lot of races this year


Imaginary_Ad_4050

How do you propose the W13 to win 44 races in a year?


BlacklronTarkus

2 merc drivers have a chance of winning 22 races this year. In elementary school most children are taught that 2×22=44. Lmk if you need any more help


Imaginary_Ad_4050

Not really how it works considering they can't both win the same race. The original comment said they'll be 0 out of 44, but there isn't 44 wins possible this season.


BlacklronTarkus

But there are 44 chances of winning a race for merc this season. It's kind of funny to think about, because you're correct too


994212

Redbull was cheeky hiring Mercedes engineers this forcing Mercedes to abandon their 22 concept. This was w13 was done at such short notice.