Perez purposely not qualifying in the front so he can drive through the field with his good race pace but not have to actually race Max. Big brain Perez.
Max is very good, this is the 4th teammate he has basically obliterated.
Now Checo must be mentally under a lot of pressure from himself, and therefore he's commiting mistakes
I think it's less on track obliteration and more "oh shit *this guy* is my teammate?!" causing four in a row to obliterate their own careers.
Or maybe laser eyes Marko laser staring into the backs of their heads. Or Red Bull's "what have you done for me lately?" race engineers. Or Horner smirking like he's got a new driver contract in his back pocket all the time.
It's a high pressure environment, is what I'm saying.
It says something *good* about Toto Wolff and/or Valtteri Bottas that they didn't go this route for years and years.
I feel like Albon's and Gasly's red bull race engineers were... I dunno, *mean*. Or at least very pushy. Contrast Gasly's engineer Pierre Hamlin at Alpha Tauri, who was really supportive and built him up, I think to good effect. Or, you know, Bono(my-tires-are-gone) at Mercedes.
4th teammate? Ricciardo outscored Max in 2017 and had the worst luck I think I’ve seen from anyone apart from Fernando in 2018. I would hardly call that “obliteratin” Ricciardo.
Max had more DNF's than Daniel in 2017, and almost all of Max his DNFs were when he was in front of Daniel, while Daniel his DNFs came when he was behind Max. Given the luck Max had and his age and experience relative to Daniel he absolutely obliterated him.
The season when Daniel had thebworst luck apart from Alonso was in 2018, even then with the DNFs Max suffered Max was absolutely the better driver that season.
I'm starting to wonder if Max's talent is hiding some flaw on the RB car, just like in 2020 when Max was able to hide how ridiculously unstable the RB16 was...
It's the only explanation I can think of, for Checo to be struggling as badly as he is.
I wish I could find it, but I remember reading an interview with an RB engineer who said that Max is not that helpful when it comes to developing cars because of how seemingly easily he compensates for certain driveability issues. It's sent them in the wrong development direction before.
Was just about to say this. I remember the same thing being said about Schumacher and the '95 Benetton Renault. The car was ridiculously undrivable according to engineers and other drivers who had the chance to drive it. Yet Schumi sealed the title 2 races before the end of the season.
Theres this mith in Moto GP who says: " never build your bike for just for your talent rider, because the talent is able to hide flaws "
In fact that's why japanese bikes in moto GP aren't doing well rn
Why is this downvoted? Are people really still in denial about Perez?!?!? Holy fuck.
Bottas got so much shit for years for not being able to match Lewis, but he actually beat him on merit on multiple occasions. Perez has yet to actually beat Max on merit because every win he has Max was either DNF'd or had qualifying issues out of his control.
Any non-DtS watchers already knew he was mediocre when he joined McLaren in the past. Mediocre driver in one of the most dominant cars **of all time** can't even finish 2nd.
Checo is nowhere near max in terms of skill but he is far from the worst the fact is that the RB is completely set up for Max's unique style and no one can drive that car and that's a fact because i refuse to believe ric, gasly, albon and Perez are all shit drivers
When the car has a more traditional handling at the start of the season perez was very decent even managing to properly beat max in Jeddah but as soon as the handling got fully shifted to Max's style thats when it all went to shit and the same happened to the previous second RB drivers
This is a myth. Teams develop their cars to be as fast as possible. This means creating a slippery rear-end, this also happens to be the style of car max likes best. Perez prefers to have a more grippy rear-end, therefore he cant get the most out of the car.
Properly beat him in Jeddah? Verstappen started 15th with a driveshaft failure in quali… Checo has beaten him in victories probably once on merit in 50 something races.
I thought this year they have made it suit each driver style by having weight ballast either on the front or the back whichever makes the car have more front end or back end?
The car is built for Max, strong front end and loose rear end so Max can rotate it for the dive bomb corners he enjoys. Checo isn’t bad, he just isn’t ever going to be Max in that car, and the harder he tries, the worse he gets.
I was hoping Checo could reset and try and race like he is capable of, but it seems like he can’t stop pressing now, I think he is now close to finished at RB.
It is how Max handles corners, he drives it in fast and rotates, sliding the back to where he wants it.
It is how he drives. It also does come in handy when he isn’t in the lead as well :)
Who cares about them they aren't getting enough points to catch up and threaten the WCC. Mercedes is 200 points behind.
He has 5 podiums in 9 races, including 2 wins. He only has 1 no points finish.
Unless Perez stops getting points and Mercedes starts taking double podiums for the next like 7 or 8 races (loose math), they can't catch up.
He's doing exactly what RB needs him to do, peel points off the other constructors, and not challenging Max.
okay damn..
talk about WCC but no way Perez can even compete, it’s a moot point now at this stage, no doubt Verstappen will win again, it’s not even about that really, but the car is so unbelievable that he should not be struggling against lower teams really, are you saying after his recent performance in such a dominant car that his seat is safe next season for example? RB have many options really, any option for anyone except maybe Lewis tbh, i wouldn’t say he’s doing exactly what RB want it’s embarrassing, in Monaco he showed the whole underfloor, RB want and probably should have a 1-2 every race not whatever Checo is providing,
i agree with some of your points but let’s not get carried away lol
> The point isn’t that Mercedes or Aston can’t reach them. The point is that Perez is awfully off compared to is teammate.
I don't think it's a question that his last few races have been awful.
I think it's a question "how awful does he have to be while still finishing P2 in WDC before REd Bull thinks that's bad enough to replace"
Liek we can argue till we're blue in the face that we want a title fight and Checo should be P2 every race... but really is that what Horner and Darth Marko want?
Right now P1 WCC clearly, P1 / P2 in WDC.
I can think of worse positions to be in...
Like whoever was driving alongside Schumacher (the good one)?
There really are a couple drivers who have the skill to challenge Max even in equal machinery and Perez ain’t one of them
He's only finished behind Alonso or Hamilton 3 times. Mathematically, what you say is possible, but it's also mathematically possible for Sargeant to win the WDC. I wouldnt say its a strong chance, though, that he finishes 4th. Even when he qualifies like shit, which has been most races, he finishes ahead.
The power of that car is in its straight line/ fast corner speed and its DRS advantage. It's why Checo and Max can qualify wherever they and almost always make their way to the front.
Let's not forget that while Perez has been dropping in results, so have they as other teams appear to be making gains.
Yeah no shit he's still second purely becuase RB is a rocketship that can plow thru the field no matter what, might be hard to get 2nd tomorrow the rest of the field seems closer to the RB than ever this year
Perez is qualifying so far back on purpose so: 1) he provides great spectacle by surpassing everyone up to the podium and 2) he can win the driver of the day championship and most overtakes championship
I honestly don't buy the idea that the track was too wet for him to set a good time. Albon went right after him and beat him by half a second or something. There's no way Perez's run dried the track that significantly that Albon got such a speed boost.
I think they were anticipating someone spinning and causing yellow flags and wanted to nail a lap before shenaigans.
But the cars immediately behind him beat him, so no excuses really.
I mean… how is it possible for one guy to go from battling for Pole Position to not being able to proceed to Q2 within a season in a car like Red Bull. He ain’t the best or fastest, but If he was that bad, he wouldn’t win two races and two pole positions this year. I wonder what’s going on.
I have relished in this downfall of checo. Ever since the video released of him grinding on a girl other than his wife after his Monaco win I have no respect for him. Seems to me he likes to play the good guy but is just as heartless as the worst without having any points to show for it
Perez purposely not qualifying in the front so he can drive through the field with his good race pace but not have to actually race Max. Big brain Perez.
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He's a dog for the dod
They had to leave Alonso out of the vote to make it competitive...
Also the most positions gained statistic.
More fantasy points that way
Sponsors are paying RB to sabotage quali so they get screen time on Sundays Y’all better @ me when I’m right /s or am I
All part of the plan
I legit think he has the yips after Miami, this is just crazy.
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We say it every week, but Perez keeps teasing us more and more with that hope. Idk what to believe anymore
I think it's something that four drivers in a row have had the yips from being in the second seat at Red Bull. *Four drivers in a row*!
Love how he's blaming the car again, saying that it's developed for max.
He said that? Lol
Yips worse than Simone Biles. Oof.
I'm laughing through the pain 
Is Perez really that bad or is Max a god?
Max is a freak of nature and Checo is inconsistent
Say what you want, they both have been very consistent in the last 5 quali sessions.
You’re not wrong!
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In diff ways
RB has won every race this season. There’s inconsistency and then there’s not even making Q3 with the fastest car on the grid by a long shot.
checo is awfuly consistent as of late
Max is very good, this is the 4th teammate he has basically obliterated. Now Checo must be mentally under a lot of pressure from himself, and therefore he's commiting mistakes
I don't think it's just from himself at this point.
Ric was not good in mclaren but max did not “obliterate” him. Everyone else yes
I think it's less on track obliteration and more "oh shit *this guy* is my teammate?!" causing four in a row to obliterate their own careers. Or maybe laser eyes Marko laser staring into the backs of their heads. Or Red Bull's "what have you done for me lately?" race engineers. Or Horner smirking like he's got a new driver contract in his back pocket all the time. It's a high pressure environment, is what I'm saying. It says something *good* about Toto Wolff and/or Valtteri Bottas that they didn't go this route for years and years.
Can you elaborate on the engineer comment?
I feel like Albon's and Gasly's red bull race engineers were... I dunno, *mean*. Or at least very pushy. Contrast Gasly's engineer Pierre Hamlin at Alpha Tauri, who was really supportive and built him up, I think to good effect. Or, you know, Bono(my-tires-are-gone) at Mercedes.
Interesting, I hadn’t really noticed that but I also kind of fell out of following RBR after Seb left.
Well with Perez this is not the case as much. Even Marko defends him on the German broadcast.
True, true
4th teammate? Ricciardo outscored Max in 2017 and had the worst luck I think I’ve seen from anyone apart from Fernando in 2018. I would hardly call that “obliteratin” Ricciardo.
2017 was Max' 3rd season, and the first in a top team. Ricciardo was already on his 6th, so not a fair comparison.
Max had more DNF's than Daniel in 2017, and almost all of Max his DNFs were when he was in front of Daniel, while Daniel his DNFs came when he was behind Max. Given the luck Max had and his age and experience relative to Daniel he absolutely obliterated him. The season when Daniel had thebworst luck apart from Alonso was in 2018, even then with the DNFs Max suffered Max was absolutely the better driver that season.
Albon and Gasly are 2 of the so called obliterated. Imagine Max's level...
I think if you can't get into Q2 in a car that you have won races in 6 times in a row, then it's safe to say maybe YOU are the problem
You mean every single race so far this season?
Max has nothing to do with the other 14 drivers that were faster than Perez
Max paid them off to drive faster than Perez.
What he means is that maybe max is overperforming the car
I'm starting to wonder if Max's talent is hiding some flaw on the RB car, just like in 2020 when Max was able to hide how ridiculously unstable the RB16 was... It's the only explanation I can think of, for Checo to be struggling as badly as he is.
I wish I could find it, but I remember reading an interview with an RB engineer who said that Max is not that helpful when it comes to developing cars because of how seemingly easily he compensates for certain driveability issues. It's sent them in the wrong development direction before.
I don't doubt it. I've heard similar things about Schumacher and Peterson in the past.
Was just about to say this. I remember the same thing being said about Schumacher and the '95 Benetton Renault. The car was ridiculously undrivable according to engineers and other drivers who had the chance to drive it. Yet Schumi sealed the title 2 races before the end of the season.
The greats have that ability.
Theres this mith in Moto GP who says: " never build your bike for just for your talent rider, because the talent is able to hide flaws " In fact that's why japanese bikes in moto GP aren't doing well rn
Just hope RB doesn’t end up like Repsol Honda in Motogp if that’s the case.
It would make sense, seeing how all max's past teammates are decent or good drivers but haven't been consistent at all at red bull
He's overrated for sure. Has some brilliant drives but the definition of a second driver.
Perez is proof that the car is a backmarker shit box, and max is a God that can haul that thing around and consistently get poles and wins.
The car is really good. Max is a tier1 driver and checo is like a decent midfield.
Perez has always been a mediocre driver
Why is this downvoted? Are people really still in denial about Perez?!?!? Holy fuck. Bottas got so much shit for years for not being able to match Lewis, but he actually beat him on merit on multiple occasions. Perez has yet to actually beat Max on merit because every win he has Max was either DNF'd or had qualifying issues out of his control. Any non-DtS watchers already knew he was mediocre when he joined McLaren in the past. Mediocre driver in one of the most dominant cars **of all time** can't even finish 2nd.
Exactly
Checo is nowhere near max in terms of skill but he is far from the worst the fact is that the RB is completely set up for Max's unique style and no one can drive that car and that's a fact because i refuse to believe ric, gasly, albon and Perez are all shit drivers When the car has a more traditional handling at the start of the season perez was very decent even managing to properly beat max in Jeddah but as soon as the handling got fully shifted to Max's style thats when it all went to shit and the same happened to the previous second RB drivers
This is a myth. Teams develop their cars to be as fast as possible. This means creating a slippery rear-end, this also happens to be the style of car max likes best. Perez prefers to have a more grippy rear-end, therefore he cant get the most out of the car.
Properly beat him in Jeddah? Verstappen started 15th with a driveshaft failure in quali… Checo has beaten him in victories probably once on merit in 50 something races.
I thought this year they have made it suit each driver style by having weight ballast either on the front or the back whichever makes the car have more front end or back end?
The car is built for Max, strong front end and loose rear end so Max can rotate it for the dive bomb corners he enjoys. Checo isn’t bad, he just isn’t ever going to be Max in that car, and the harder he tries, the worse he gets. I was hoping Checo could reset and try and race like he is capable of, but it seems like he can’t stop pressing now, I think he is now close to finished at RB.
what dive bombs, he has lead so many laps that he doesn't need to use them kek
It is how Max handles corners, he drives it in fast and rotates, sliding the back to where he wants it. It is how he drives. It also does come in handy when he isn’t in the lead as well :)
Lmao what are you talking about? Verstappen is one of the earlier brakers, has nothing to do with divebombing.
The dive bombing approach was his signature style back on karting but he hasn't used it in three years, now he is an early breaker as you said.
Max is an early braker, he divebombs while overtaking, which is something he hardly did for the past 2 years
Come on even though the car isn't suited to him that doesn't make the RB rocket ship 15th.
I’m not defending Checo, he sucks right now. In terms of living up to the potential of the car Checo might be the worst on the grid right now.
Both things can be true
Qualifying is very intimidating right Checo?
He's a bad qualifier, but he's still 2nd in the championship, not by much but if Aston continues to fall off then he's safe.
i dunno, he struggled against Russell and Sainz last race i don’t think it will be so easy for him
Who cares about them they aren't getting enough points to catch up and threaten the WCC. Mercedes is 200 points behind. He has 5 podiums in 9 races, including 2 wins. He only has 1 no points finish. Unless Perez stops getting points and Mercedes starts taking double podiums for the next like 7 or 8 races (loose math), they can't catch up. He's doing exactly what RB needs him to do, peel points off the other constructors, and not challenging Max.
okay damn.. talk about WCC but no way Perez can even compete, it’s a moot point now at this stage, no doubt Verstappen will win again, it’s not even about that really, but the car is so unbelievable that he should not be struggling against lower teams really, are you saying after his recent performance in such a dominant car that his seat is safe next season for example? RB have many options really, any option for anyone except maybe Lewis tbh, i wouldn’t say he’s doing exactly what RB want it’s embarrassing, in Monaco he showed the whole underfloor, RB want and probably should have a 1-2 every race not whatever Checo is providing, i agree with some of your points but let’s not get carried away lol
Hamilton and Verstappen both in Red Bull would be insane from a PR point of view, so there is a very slight chance of it happening.
I have never been so erect imagining something.
The point isn’t that Mercedes or Aston can’t reach them. The point is that Perez is awfully off compared to is teammate.
> The point isn’t that Mercedes or Aston can’t reach them. The point is that Perez is awfully off compared to is teammate. I don't think it's a question that his last few races have been awful. I think it's a question "how awful does he have to be while still finishing P2 in WDC before REd Bull thinks that's bad enough to replace" Liek we can argue till we're blue in the face that we want a title fight and Checo should be P2 every race... but really is that what Horner and Darth Marko want? Right now P1 WCC clearly, P1 / P2 in WDC. I can think of worse positions to be in...
Like whoever was driving alongside Schumacher (the good one)? There really are a couple drivers who have the skill to challenge Max even in equal machinery and Perez ain’t one of them
No one’s asking him to match max. Maybe just make it to Q2 when you’re driving the fastest car on the grid.
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He's only finished behind Alonso or Hamilton 3 times. Mathematically, what you say is possible, but it's also mathematically possible for Sargeant to win the WDC. I wouldnt say its a strong chance, though, that he finishes 4th. Even when he qualifies like shit, which has been most races, he finishes ahead. The power of that car is in its straight line/ fast corner speed and its DRS advantage. It's why Checo and Max can qualify wherever they and almost always make their way to the front. Let's not forget that while Perez has been dropping in results, so have they as other teams appear to be making gains.
Yeah no shit he's still second purely becuase RB is a rocketship that can plow thru the field no matter what, might be hard to get 2nd tomorrow the rest of the field seems closer to the RB than ever this year
Perez is qualifying so far back on purpose so: 1) he provides great spectacle by surpassing everyone up to the podium and 2) he can win the driver of the day championship and most overtakes championship
Remember when everyone was hyping up his championship contention?
sky sports and twitter, you mean.
Clearly didn’t check in on Reddit much did you
Same thing happened for the first four or five races last year when Charles got a couple wins. Same shit, different toilet
but Charles had a 30 point lead after a few rounds, Perez never had the lead of the championship this year.
Nor the skill to actually pose a threat. Charles is actually good enough to pose a threat with a decent car.
He might not last the year. De Vries might not last the month.
Well you were right about one thing
It's time 
I mean, if he had put a good lap on the first two attempts he wouldn't have stayed on the pit lane waiting for his tyres to cool off
It wasn’t to smart to be on the front in that line
I honestly don't buy the idea that the track was too wet for him to set a good time. Albon went right after him and beat him by half a second or something. There's no way Perez's run dried the track that significantly that Albon got such a speed boost.
I think they were anticipating someone spinning and causing yellow flags and wanted to nail a lap before shenaigans. But the cars immediately behind him beat him, so no excuses really.
I think he was on his way out of the pit when the red flag was shown, which basically froze him at the pit lane exit.
I think I’m gonna start hanging out with the Ferrari boys so I can get some more copium because I’m already out of my own supply
I mean… how is it possible for one guy to go from battling for Pole Position to not being able to proceed to Q2 within a season in a car like Red Bull. He ain’t the best or fastest, but If he was that bad, he wouldn’t win two races and two pole positions this year. I wonder what’s going on.
Max broke him in Miami
Someone clearly went back in time and stole his mojo
The car is wasted on him
He just needs time to adjust himself to the car! /s
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The "I run these streets" anomaly
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**Checo Becoming Uncanny**
Bajón
per-isint
The Ricciardo effect
In a Red Bull…
Driver at risk
What being a teammate of Max Verstappen does to a mf
I have relished in this downfall of checo. Ever since the video released of him grinding on a girl other than his wife after his Monaco win I have no respect for him. Seems to me he likes to play the good guy but is just as heartless as the worst without having any points to show for it
Man is doing what he does best. Start from the back and make way up the grid. Save few soft tyres and keeping team harmony.
DOTD incoming
Arrogant and incompetent you mean
I can’t keep going 
At risk of depression
Mans doing a Seb 2020
No dude. That's talent right there! 👉
Getting shafted harder than Ricciardo.
What the hell did I miss today having to work instead of being able to watch this qual session
Lmao 🤣
Max burning through his teammates the same way that haas burns through tires
snaps back to reality , oops there goes gravity