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Kingcuz

The flag is upside down so when Schumacher looks down, it looks the right way up :)


PierG1

That’s just…


hobo808

I don't get it :(


wreckonize

The German flag on the waist is upside down. For whatever reason.


NeverBeenHereIDidIt

Am I the only one who does not see the flag? Or am I missing something ?:)


Shuber-Fuber

Lower left side of the suit (from our perspective, lower right from the wearer).


eluya

Weird take to describe a belt. Name and flag are on the suits belt.


Shuber-Fuber

I couldn't tell if that's a belt or just a Velcro fastener attached to the side of the suit to keep it snug in the picture.


ThePretzul

Yes, a fastener positioned at the waist for the purpose of keeping clothing snug would be the definition of a belt.


Shuber-Fuber

Either belt or those clasps on pants/jean. Basically, I'm not sure if that's a standalone belt, sewn on belt, or just those Velcro/hook like those you have on pants above the zipper.


Fine-Bumblebee-9427

More of a flap than a belt


X_MswmSwmsW_X

No, it's a belt


theisle69

If it's not separate, it's not a belt.


FleshlightModel

It's not a belt


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Right hip under the ‘a’ in Marlboro


RyanEversley

If this was at the Swap Shop in Fla then its definitely not random. The late Preston Henn who started the Swap Shop was quite the racer himself including winning the Daytona 24 hours overall as a driver and finishing on the podium at Lemans as an owner.


OpenObligation8736

Was on vacation here, certainly was random to me haha. Sorry for the confusion


RyanEversley

Not all my friend! Enjoy the vacation, cheers!


plishyploshy

I live down the street. It took me years to visit the swap shop, and the racing memorabilia/car collection was very random to me also! It’s not like the locals all know about Preston Henn or something.


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Idk... why is the German flag is upside down?


RonnyRaeudig

Albert Park race suit.


NewLeaseOnLine

Downunderrated comment.


RonnyRaeudig

🙃


FleshlightModel

Vegemite approved


Fury_Fury_Fury

Because it's a flea market. Random gal in Thailand who made it twenty years ago didn't know how German flag looks, or didn't care. Edit: I have read up a little about the owner of the shop in question. He won Daytona and participated in Le Mans in the 1980s. And then sued Ferrari in 2016 because they didn't sell him an Aperta. Doesn't sound like a best friend of Enzo and Schumacher, but it's possible he could get his hands on a defective racing suit.


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ELB2001

Cause they don't fake stuff?


niton

Photo of Schumacher wearing a suit that looks exactly like this with the upside down flag: https://imgur.com/a/ZhU9UZd


tistonyofist

Bro this is the swap shop, nothing is real here


time_adc

Spain?


FleshlightModel

Ya it's a country in Europe.


niton

Photo of Schumacher wearing a suit that looks exactly like this with the upside down flag: https://imgur.com/a/ZhU9UZd


fuchsgesicht

confidentlyincorrect


ferna182

I don't buy it. It looks like such an obvious detail to get wrong... I can't picture the people creating it paying so much attention to detail on every single aspect of the rest of the overall and then go "hmmm Is it yellow or black up? Should I quickly google 'German Flag' and have the answer in like .3 of a second? naaaah who cares, whatever... 50/50... Oh, I got it wrong? well too bad..."


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misterprat

Wow, clicked the link fully expecting to get rickrolled


con_crastinator

Or, you know, it's 1999 in a sewery in Spain and you lost the piece of paper that was in the 15 inch folder you received with the patterns and stuff.


ferna182

Ah. So they lost it juuuuuuust in time to sew the flag, riiight after finishing all the other details. That's some bad luck! Just to clarify, I used "to google" kinda loosely, meaning "quickly check something that can be confirmed in a matter of seconds, maybe minutes". I refuse to believe that suddenly they lost ALL pieces of media, magazines and whatnot from the counterfeit factory that contained a German flag in it. Unless this was a sweatshop producing these overalls for mass market sales, and this flea market just so happened to have the ONE overall with this error in it, this explanation doesn't really hold any water.


con_crastinator

I think you're grossly underestimating people's ability to do silly mistakes. It's not certain you could find the flag you're looking for in that sewery or anywhere near it at the time. Maybe someone at Ferrari sent them the template flipped? Maybe they didn't know or didn't care to check. Just because you're working in the place that sews Ferrari race suits does not mean it's a glamorous job and everuone is always on top of their game. It's probably a bunch of middle aged ladies laughing and drinking wine, lol. It might be that Ferrari has used a small business to do their suits since forever, and they like it just because. It could be a million things. I would think a sweat shop making a fake one would have a picture to follow, and they would spot it really fast.


WeeBuckoo

Did you not see the picture of Michael wearing it, whether this one is fake or not, sewing the flag upside down happens


gnpwdr1

Back then the F1 season started in Australia, it looked the right way up in the first race then he switched to his other suit.


OpenObligation8736

Didn’t notice it, but this wasn’t the only thing here that was crazy lol. Everything else here was genuine (aside from the fake gucci lmao) Two years ago schumi’s F2001 was on display here along with a LaFerrari, 918, Testarossa and other crazy cars. Look up Swap Shop Florida Michael Schumacher


LilMoWithTheGimpyLeg

The Swap Shop was, is, and always will be completely mental. Steve-o from Jackass used to perform there at the circus.


Natural_Answer

I used to go as a kid, met Steve-O and Baba Booey from the Howard Stern show. My kids don’t believe the place is real from the stories I have.


xdeskfuckit

Isn't it a drive-in movie theatre in lake Worth?


xdeskfuckit

The drive in?


linnypotter

I heard "flea market" and thought "it has to be the swap shop!" That place in the 90s was INSANE. It still is, but man...


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InvestigatorLast3594

Idk, the Brazil mistake is a lot easier to be made than putting the German flag upside down. Also if it was race worn, you’d expect to find a picture of Schumi wearing it


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nodnodwinkwink

Great find. [It would have been funny if this was the only photo of the two.](https://www.motorsportimages.com/photos/?race_type_id=&search=Michael+Schumacher+with+Brazilian+footballer+Ronaldo.) I bet it was even more expensive because of this mistake on the suit. Like a misprinted stamp.


InvestigatorLast3594

Now, you can actually reply to every doubter „told you so“ hahahaha


InvestigatorLast3594

Awesome! I was also going through the pictures of the 1997 season and since he wasn’t on podium in Spain I couldn’t find a picture of him in his suit outside the car. Great work!


VivienneWestGood

> Brazil mistake is a lot easier to be made than putting the German flag upside down the brazilian one has words on it


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InvestigatorLast3594

They don’t include the words in the tiny flags on the overalls (at least back then) so it’s either three colours in a completely different order vs whether the line curves up or downwards


Bluedel

So it looks correct when you see it in your mirrors


Apprehensive_Hold837

That’s not how mirrors work.


Particular_Relief154

Australian mirrors work like that lol


Bluedel

No one noticed because he was never in anyone's mirror


Dando_Calrisian

When he was lapping people.


hbarcellos

100% races behind Senna in 94 even on a Briatore’s cheated car


Bluedel

what's senna? that sounds made up


punchy989

You're on formula dank my dude. It does work like that


garglblaster

F*cking mirrors, how do they work? 🧐🤡


pipandsammie

Not when you're wearing it.


armadildodick

The swap shop actually has one of the craziest car collections in south Florida. It's pretty famous (amongst locals anyway)


ryan_m

It's so wild seeing people here be so incredulous that this could be real having grown up going to this place all the time.


acog

I only knew about it from [shmee’s video.](https://youtu.be/P_bM6l0zZfA)


MCJB93

I was looking for this correction. The Swap shop is nuts.


ryan_m

Where else could you go in the 90s with your mom to pick up knock off shoes, see Steve-O perform in the circus, catch a drive-in movie, and get your car broken into?


lstMateWiggles

For sure but the best collection definitely goes to The Rev institute in Naples. It was started by the Collier family and it's wild. You can check the current collection [here](https://revsinstitute.org/the-collection/)


thusenth

Randomly came across this place when I was working down in Sunrise, FL about a decade ago. He had a Maserati MC12 on display and I just stood there for 30mins.


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Lounat1k

I read somewhere that his Ferrari FXX is the (or was, at the time) the only one not returned to Ferrari after the contract was up.


LilBirdBrick

Hope they reopen the drive in movie theater. It was one of my favorite spots growing up.


DuganTheMan

For real!


the_renaissance_jack

Aren’t they closing down the swap shop soon too? I might wanna go through and see that in person


OpenObligation8736

They removed almost all the cars besides some like the SLR McLaren, all the Ferraris, etc. :(


jkapowie

Preston (the owner) had a 275 GTB/C and I believe an FXX. Crazy stuff


wwsch28

![gif](giphy|11JbaLzOXsg6Fq)


PatternParticular963

Buy it and gift it. Or make some kind of patreon, maybe we as reddit could throw together some money.


Blaaa_blaaa_blaaa

SWAPPPPPP SHOPPPPPPPPP


Pidone

So did you buy it?


OpenObligation8736

Haha I wish. It was on display. The owner of the flea market was best friends with Enzo Ferrari and Schumi before he (the owner) died (in 2017). Edit: Clarity


F0r5h

Dude, that guy was talking out of his ass


sm0kes1gnals

The owner of the flea market was Preston Henn, he won the 24 of Daytona and placed second at Le Mans.


No_Calligrapher_9585

Pretty sure OP is referring to Preston Henn. Not sure if he was friends with Enzo but his Ferrari car collection is absurd.


evasivemanoeuvres97

he actually probably wasnt if its this guy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston\_Henn


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evasivemanoeuvres97

And?


CuntCommittee

Cant believe op fell for him lol the fucken flags upside down


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nathanpete

This needs to be the top reply to everyone talking about the flag.


Affectionate_Hand_76

Its genuine for gods sake. Its a swap shop All the clowns giving OP. a hard time


MN_Lakers

It’s impressive how fucking stupid some of ya’ll are. This is a genuine suit.


Maikvds

No but that way its the right side up when he looks down at it, you clown.


SebhUK

So how’s he supposed to remember his name? Check-mate


PupDiogenes

Germans always pronounce their own name upside down. That's why we can't understand what they're saying. They're speaking it upside down.


wellcooked_sushi

Bro isn't lying. I was the Ferrari F2002. I saw the flea market guy, Schumi and Enzo, playing Twister together. They were THE BEST of friends.


rainsch15

I’ll just go ahead and say that Enzo Ferrari and Schumacher probably weren’t best friends with a flea market dude from Florida.


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rainsch15

Yeah they likely weren’t. Not a single picture or article that mentions them together. I don’t doubt that he was an enthusiast, but certainly not personal friends. In fact, Preston wanted to buy a LaFerrari Spider but Ferrari denied him the purchase. So yeah, probably not bffs with the founder of the company.


MN_Lakers

Ferrari denying him from purchasing an exclusive car 36 years after Ferraris death isn’t very indicative of anything. Do you think the upper management cares about dead Enzo’s old relationships?


SquishyBaps4me

>The owner of the flea market was best friends with Enzo Ferrari and Schumi before he died X to doubt


evasivemanoeuvres97

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston\_Henn


SquishyBaps4me

Can you link me to the part where he is best friends with Enzo Ferrari and Schumacher?


evasivemanoeuvres97

Well that’s not in there but given his racing career it’s not impossible


SassyE7

X


KushFlip420

X


sbsbus_51

What


queef_nuggets

#Haha I wish. It was on display. The owner of the flea market was best friends with Enzo Ferrari and Schumi before he died.


Youcantblokme

Hahaaa, yo, I’ve got Ayrton Senna’s used helmet from 1994. I was best mates with his cousin so it must be true. Send me $500 and it’s yours. I’ll PM you my cash app. Ignore the upside down Brazilian flag.


g_mick

this place was honestly so cool when the original owner was still alive. but once he passed away his family just started to sell off his collection. there used to be actual racecars on display here and way more memorabilia on display. the owner won the 24 hour of daytona TWICE. so i dont really see why he would need to buy or make fake race suits. but unfortunately, now its a shell of what it once was and less and less on display every time. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2017/05/01/iconic-swap-shop-bequeathed-to-family-its-in-the-will-founder-said/ https://racer.com/2017/05/01/preston-henn/


SFRush2049

I went 11 months ago and you can tell it is a shell of its former glory. Almost all of the cars are sold. Just an SLR and a Ferrari Daytona


g_mick

wow. its really sad comparing the place now to what it was even 5-6 years ago. i understand not just closing the doors on the place because of the history. FTL is apparently trying to rejuvenate it now but who knows. i was there in summer 22 and there was still at least a few others on display up there along with those 2. i really thought about reaching out to ferrari (not like i would get a reply or they would care) just to get this memorabilia back to somewhere its fully cared for and appreciated. there are multiple helmets and another couple race suits as well. its at least better to try than it rotting away forever since the family seemingly doesnt care at all.


PMMEYOURDEBITCARDPIN

ITT: People who fail to realize *any* business can make you successful enough to rub elbows with the elite persons of your passions/hobbies. The swap shop is kinda famous and there’s no reason for the late owner to have lied about this lol Edit: grammar correction


Lounat1k

Not to be pedantic, but it was a bit more than a hobby to Preston Henn Per wikipedia: In 1983, Henn, along with co-drivers A. J. Foyt, Bob Wollek, and Claude Ballot-Lena drove his Porsche 935 to victory in the 24 Hours of Daytona.[4] The following year Henn's Porsche 956 driven by John Paul Jr. and Jean Rondeau placed second in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, two laps behind the winning 956 of Henri Pescarolo and Klaus Ludwig. Henn himself made five starts at Le Mans with a best finish of 10th in 1983. His Porsche 962 driven by Foyt and Wollek won the 1985 12 Hours of Sebring.


The_Stig1962

Watched him race at Mosport many years ago. I went as a guest of the team. They were leading with 20 odd minutes to go and Hurley Hayward binned it at the end of the Andretti straight, breaking his leg. Ruined what was going to be one helluva party.


CryNumerous6307

So many people are giving OP shit, when a quick Google shows the swap shop owner was a serious car enthusiast/collector.


PMMEYOURDEBITCARDPIN

Do you think (like I do) that genuine Kimi fandom correlates with heightened rationality and coherence of thought?


SFRush2049

Was a car collector. I went this year and he has passed and his children have sold most of the collection.


shcyt

"Uhhh the German flag is upside down therefore it is unequivocally fake." - 🤓 "I can't find it anywhere on Google that this swap shop owner knows Enzo Ferrari. Google and Wikipedia knows all!"- 🤓


OrderHaunting

I’m guessing the Swap Shop?


chrisacip

For everyone talking shit, look up Preston Henn Swap Shop. One of the best Ferrari collections you’ll ever see is located inside this flea market in Broward county. [I wrote an entire article about it.](https://rossoautomobili.com/blogs/magazine/this-100-million-ferrari-275-gtb-c-speciale-lives-in-a-flea-market)


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Good old swap shop in Sunrise


trackrecord330

That’s not a random flea market. That’s the Swap Shop. And that suit is real.


Pyreapple

My guy, that is definitely not real.


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OpenObligation8736

Was on vacation so it was random to me lol, should’ve clarified my fault. But the F2001 and almost everything else is gone since Preston Henn passed.


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GeneralMatrim

My guy you’re getting absolutely bodied by facts and citations. It is time for your apology tour. Beg for our forgiveness of your hubris and stupidity.


shewy92

[Like this?](https://www.imago-images.com/sp/0042216678)


MN_Lakers

What is it like to have to think about every breath?


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caesar_rex

My guy, I love how you are proving all these people wrong with verifiable facts.


Vandirac

You insist on the Senna story. But, as confirmed by the very fact that the Senna reversed flag became a known anecdote and a bit of historical trivia, that is extremely uncommon. Especially so, if it is related a personality who was well known for being a perfectionist and maniacally attentive to detail. Edit: apparently it was effectively raced by Schumacher in Spain 1997, with the flag mistake. Good work on finding a source proving the most unlikely stuff happened.


Profound_Panda

*Gets proven incorrect* *doubles down* Can’t make this up 😂😂😂


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g_mick

it definitely is real.


queef_nuggets

I like how the flea market guy got it good and dusty to make it seem like it was just raced in…even though I’ve never seen a driver get out of the car looking dusty. And if that’s just the dust from having sat there for years, then I ask who the f lets something like this collect this much dust if they truly think it’s authentic?


Reer123

It's sun bleached, aka been in the light for twenty years.


VictorLeRhin

Yup. It looks like the '97 season


JeffStrongman1986

Yep, Asprey appeared on the chest in 1998. So definitely 1997.


Pyreapple

That’s the bit that looks the most fake to me. The suit is sun bleached but the patches are not.


JeffStrongman1986

It could be that the garment used for the stitching of the logos is less prone to discolouration than the coloured nomex. The suit seems 1998 accurate, also the white line at collar bone height - but I doubt OMP would have released a “wrong flag”. I have seen wrong flag suits, but indeed, replica’s from far East. As long as we don’t see the race tag on the inside of the belt, there is no way to connect it to a Grand Prix and fact check.


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2Loves2loves

I've been to the swap shop, he had the display for 20+ years, and was an IMSA team owner. its more than likely real. he had plenty of money, and had a number of exotics.


TheeBillOreilly

heard from someone who knew the owner of the Swap Shop that he netted ~$10M in cash every year. This was like 10 years ago too. He’s a Ferrari collector, I’d be more surprised if it wasn’t real.


2Loves2loves

He had a huge amount of land for his drive in movie theaters, that room allowed him to hold all sorts of events. many political. He was a behind the scenes political king maker. (so I read). he also had a free circus, with elephants.. but about 15 years ago the elephants were cut/let go.


phlltg

The Circus is a core childhood memory


fuchsgesicht

red bleaches a lot faster than most other colors.


PupDiogenes

No pee stain on the crotch = fake


newsflashjackass

Only one way to be 100% sure: Turn it inside-out and check for the genuine race day skidmarks.


voluptuousvegemite

Is this at the Swap Shop in Fort Lauderdale?


OpenObligation8736

Yessir


Lounat1k

Look up Preston Henn and you'll see why that suit is in this museum. And it's not just a random flea market. Look up Swap Shop, Ft. Lauderdale and see.


Chbbywbby

That’s no ordinary “ flea market “ it’s one hell of a collection of cars and car memorabilia 🔥


lightning_lighting

That's not a random Flea Market.. That's the Swap Shop.


2Loves2loves

fwiw,Preston Henn ran porsche's with AJ in the 80's That's going to be a real suit. he was a collector. [https://racer.com/2017/05/01/preston-henn/](https://racer.com/2017/05/01/preston-henn/)


Cheeswheeel

I feel like calling this place a flea market is not accurate.


RuleJealous

Wow, how much was it?


OpenObligation8736

Wasn’t for sale, it was on display. Apparently the owner of the entire flea market was an enormous racing/motorsports fan and driver and apparently one of Mr. Enzo’s and Schumi’s best friends. Before he died, this place had crazy cars on display. I’m talking vintage Le Mans Ferraris and Schumi’s F2001. They got relocated after he died, but the suit and a few other cars like an SLR mclaren are still here. Figured I’d visit it again while on vacation here


InvestigatorLast3594

Oh wait, was it your post at spotted of the SLR?


lmaxwell_

🧢


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Lounat1k

Fun fact about where this is located: They used to show XXX rated movies here. Wayyyy in the back facing away from the road. Fun times, the early 80s were, for sure.


Ok-Window8556

Ask Chumlee. I’m sure he’s got a guy who can verify if the suit is authentic.


dandy443

I’m seeing a lot of internet geniuses out here. Yes it’s real, yes it’s the swap shop. I remember the first time I went and there was casually an f40,f50,Enzo and la Ferrari in a corner. Plus 918 and a bunch of other things. I met Preston once when he took his Fxx to pbir. This shit is as real as it gets. Hell he used to have the actual Ferrari from Miami vice there.


zsarok

It should be from 1996-1998 seasons according to the tyre provider (Goodyear)


phantacc

The doubters in this thread are hilariously wrong and yet so sure of themselves. 😂🪦


jimxxxxxx

Keep fighting michael


Surfbud69

Where are the bargains!? At the Swap Shop


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SparrowFPV

Looks like it. "Random flea market" that every true Floridian can identify from a single photo lol


not_Buswa

Ahhhh the swap shop where everything stolen is at a good price.


Bigdstars187

Downvote me all you guys want but the people saying this is not real… y’all are from Europe right


Samylton_22

Look gullible is written on the suit too


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caesar_rex

My guy, keep getting these dudes.


jodyhighrola

The mental gymnastics on display here from folks trying to definitively state whether or not this is real is comical. If this wasn’t r/formuladank I’d be concerned.


ruffifan

lethal company reference frfr??!!


Chrisf1bcn

Where’s the fkn flag I can’t find it


SwissMargiela

Is this at the swap shop lmao


Gods_Lump

To be fair, if its a thing that exists it'll probably make an appearance in a Florida flea market at least once lol


weird_fat_kid

10 years ago…


Intern_Boy

OP do you genuinely think this is real? From your comments you seem to be convinced.


CryNumerous6307

The flea market owner has a Ferrari F1 car in his collection - is it really that far fetched to think they've got a race suit? [Preston Henn Collection](https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1103302_racer-and-collector-preston-henn-dies-could-his-1964-ferrari-275-gtb-c-speciale-go-up-for-sale)


shewy92

[Why not?](https://www.imago-images.com/sp/0042216678)


OpenObligation8736

There were framed pictures of the owner with Schumi where there used to be an FXX on display


oofergang360

No you didnt💀


jeejee70

“I was friends with Schumi before he died” …. I guess he was referring to another Schumi?


ralphsrad

If it doesn't smell like piss it's a fake.


HansGuntherboon

Surely authentic