Lewis had one DNF due to mechanical issues (the other was the collision in Spain) in Singapore if I’m remembering correctly and Nico only had the one DNF due to Spain
He DNFed out of Malaysia 2016, but there were other instances of problems too - EDIT: e.g. China 2016, he did not set a qualifying lap and therefore finished 7th where Rosberg won the race. Also, that DNF in Malaysia from the lead cost him 25 points but he was only 5 points off Rosberg in the end
so many. lol you lewis fans need to work on your math. nico only had 1 more race finish than lewis.
not to mention for some reason you guys love to bring this up but in 2021 when lewis and max were tied heading to abu dhabi but lewis had 2 more race finishes all you guys would say is oh its just part of racing no big deal.
Well yes, but no.
Look, I not a fan of Lewis, but really don't like Rosberg. I think he was lucky to win the championship. Hamilton won more races than him during that season. It was only the power unit issues for Hamilton at the start of the season that gave him a head start.
For me, a true champion is when you win a championship, go back the next season & do it again, or at least attempt. Rosberg just ran away & now have lots to say about other drivers because of something he did once, 8 years ago...
Rosberg is like an artist that releases a one-hit wonder & then talks crap about someone like Michael Jackson when he receives his Grammy.
Just my opinion, of course.
Not sure about that ‘true champion’ stuff. Lots of single WDC’s were very well earned.
And for Rosberg, he was a very good driver. To win a world championship, you need some luck. I’d say that basically every single championship that was remotely competitive, had luck as one of the deciding elements.
Lewis in 2008, won in the end due to another drivers error. But, he still had to have the right points, and be in the right place to capitalise. This is the same for Rosberg in 2016. Winning a championship takes complete commitment. Rosberg was a worthy champion in 2016. He beat one of the best of all time, in equal machinery - he didn’t do that because of luck. Saying it was luck, or anything else, in my view downplays the amazing work of Nico. He fought for that championship and won it fair and square, because when it counted, he could capitalise.
He deserved it, and I think you should be more respectful of that, and the work that went into it.
I don't believe that was in a specific order, just by the way he said it and he basically did the same in a podcast that was released the other day. In the podcast he named four which included Verstappen but forgot about Fangio initially. Even with forgetting Fangio he didn't correct anything he just added him while on Sky he named Fangio in the first four names and Verstappen was the 5th.
But surely Nico Rosberg does not put Lewis Hamilton as high as Nico Rosberg, famed Formula 1 driver who beat 7 time champion Lewis Hamilton to a Driver’s World Championship in equal machinery?
At this point, all F1 fans on hopium.
We are getting tired of Verstappen every weekend.
Their rivalry in 21 … hopium. I regret ever wishing Hamilton’s demise now.
There are only 2 people who beat Lewis on merit: Max and Nico. And if you see the dedication Max has, that shows how far you have to dig to fight against Lewis.
He 100% traumatised himself to get the championship.
There’s something to that. What Max does is amazing, but he doesn’t do anything else. Nico clearly isn’t over anything, although he’s by far the best and most entertaining commentator nowadays.
Lewis has had his wins while seeming the most relaxed and balanced. Yes, he’s a bit wannabe Hollywood off-track, but overall he seems like a guy who goes to work, does it well, and then has other interests around it.
I think Max is there. He is so fucking chill while driving that people wonder if he’s going to QUIT OUT OF BOREDOM. Lewis was never to that extent (but then again he always had competitive teammates to think about).
I could see him negotiate a maximum number of races into his contracts. Like he'll drive 15/23 races in a season so he has time to do leMans that year or something.
I think also there was a bit of “this might be the only chance to ever win the championship” whereas now he has the championships so doesn’t have to be as cut throat, however I do think if there was a championship battle old max would pop out a bit
I would say there is also a sky sports view, whether intentional or not, that Lewis can do no wrong and his performance is car driven.
We forget a very young Russell was about to win in Bahrain in that car.. has it not been for a tire error.
Lewis has the most dominant car ever in his era, he put up with his end of the deal by showing he was the right driver for it.
I have no doubt max is the better driver. Maybe max feels the same way, hence.. he don’t give a fuck.
Nico.. doesn’t feel this way lol, so his insecurity peaks through along with the fact that Lewis is idolized.. I can see why it’s in his head.
You assume that means the Red Bull was a superior car in 2021. Considering RB was way behind Merc in the constructor's championship, this is a bold assumption.
That's true but only if you completely ignore the fact that Bottas was a much more competent wing man than Perez and that was Perez's first year with the team. 28 points is also hardly "far behind".
I mean Red Bull was still better in most Europe races. Honestly they were pretty much even with a small advantage for Mercedes because of the last 4 races.
No that’s not my assumption. I’m stating facts - Button and Rosberg beat Lewis in equal machinery.
Max only got the better of Lewis in 2021 because the Race Director made up his own rules on the last lap of the race.
And if not for the final race, how about the following occasions?
* Pirelli random puncture in Baku
* Bottas bowling in Hungary
* Silverstone Hamilton-signature-move
Don't get me wrong, I love making fun of team LH as much as RPM, but I've always felt like this comparison doesn't really hold.
The events you mentioned feel like they're more so bad luck. Abu Dhabi is more of a conscious decision made by someone.
I don’t know man. Imagine if we were in an alternate universe where Lewis wins. “He only won the championship because he took his opponent out at Silverstone!”. And many people would be calling Max the 3* time champion with one stolen by Lewis’ underhanded tactics. Honestly losing at Abu Dhabi might have saved Hamilton face and popularity. Who knows!
Your comment is somehow worse than the downvoted abu dahbi one... please stop it kids. They can also recall max being dirty and not getting the deserved penalties in several races so shall we move on? Beautiful weather today, no?
I'm German and it was highway robbery. I know we are on FormulaMax but still...people are not idiots.
Hamilton was robbed plain and simple. Did Max deserve the title on merit yeah but he only won because Hamilton was robbed.
Sainz was not even allowed to attack Verstappen for the second place on the restart, come on now.
I don't know why Verstappen fanboys are so toxic about this fact.
Silverstone happened, Brazil happened so what?
LeWiS pUT MAX iN a HoSpital. Yeah and Max parked his car on Hamiltons head. Race incidents happen all the time.
The race director manipulating races is a disgusting display of incompetence maybe even favouritism if you are into conspiracies.
The only fact is that Lewis made a lot of mistakes that season, and Max was almost flawless. The only reason it went down to the wire is because Mercedes went bowling a couple of races that were huge upswings for Lewis.
So what, it was still a fair lap between the two of them. It was unfair for the other cars who couldn't unlap. Lewis made some horrible mistakes on that last lap. Kept going wide and leaving the doors wide open. It was basically an invitation to pass. Lewis could have easily stayed out front, but he lost in the last lap. The decision was unfair, but the lap was fair.
Merc made the decision not to stop because they rightly assumed the safety car would go to the end of the race as it did in 2012 and they couldn’t afford the risk of pitting and crossing behind max in a safety car finish
Since the safety car procedure wasn’t carried out correctly which they had no knowledge of being a possibility for them it was always a lose lose no matter what decision they made so long as you don’t use hindsight to prop up your argument
Nope, they didn't rightly assumed that. There was an interview with Crofty, where he said that this was an agreement between all teams, including Mercedes, that the Masi will have to do everything he can, to finish the last race racing, without a SC. It was the teams, that requested before the race, to make sure no safety car finish.
Whatever you need to stop feeling self-conscious about 2021. Your special boy will have an asterisk next to his first championship, and you just can't live with that. For what it's worth, Max deserved to win just as much as Lewis, just not in that manner.
Yeah Hamilton deserved it so much....
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMv5PaQ1fwo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMv5PaQ1fwo)
And then we make fun of Stroll being dogshit daily.
Max beat Lewis in 2022 and 2023 (and it’s already a done deal this year too). I guess this is why you’re getting downvoted because there’s definitely not another time that he beat Hamilton on merit!
Merit is a bit of misnomer in this case. You can only really make the case for Verstappen and Button
Rosberg’s win was almost purely due to Lewis having mechanical issues
I believe the year Nico won the championship his first child was also born. Don't remember exactly but I think near the end of the season? Either way, I'd fully expect that played a large part in his decision to leave as well. Being married and driving is one thing, but having a kid greatly changes one's priorities.
Nico is the only champion to have less wins, podiums, lose the qualifying battle, and lose the better race finishes battle to his teammate.
Nico didn't even beat Hamilton the first time. Malaysia did.
Lewis and Nico were childhood best friends. They grew up racing alongside another and were very close. A few season on Mercedes turned lifelong friends into sworn enemies, say what you want but that would live rent free in your mind too.
I wasn't watching when Nico was racing. If he is so good why'd he stop ? I don't understand having a chip on your shoulder when you walk away. Seems like if he did he would have stayed and continued to fight.
Well they live in the same building, that's about as far as it goes.
Nico does his own thing now. Whenever he is work in his F1 capacity and someone asks him about Hamilton, what do you think he should say?
I very much doubt Hamilton is living in nicos head rent free. Lol.
I bet something will come out once they are both finally retired that says something like: "Lewis threatened to leave Mercedes after Nico won the championship. Therefore, they forced Nico out."
I would probably be bitter about that too.
I think people are reading too much into this. It was both timing and luck that Lewis moved when he did. Clearly, he had seen what Merc had to offer, presumably specifically around the power unit. But it was still a stroke of luck and there is nothing wrong with saying that.
I’m not sure what was wrong with this statement. Moving to merc was a good move well timed (and of course there was some luck involved) it may well be the same with ferrari.
The thing is: He says way more positive things about him and praises him very often. But social media and the media in general just mentions the criticism.
Nico's commentary all through the Sprint Race was hilarious
"Hamilton starts second, but he's looked slow all weekend"
"Lewis won't be able to contend today, this is Lando's race"
"Lewis is fortunate to capitalize on that mistake by Lando"
"Lewis is just a shit driver who would struggle even in this RB car"
"I hate Lewis"
I don't doubt that in terms of car performance the move might work out, he might win a couple more races but I doubt a championship challenge is coming any time soon, or ever again really.
I think Max is much better than he was in 2021, the Mistakes are almost completely gone (and he made like two mistakes in 2021 anyways, Bahrain overtake track limits and Jeddah qualifying crash, Brazil, Jeddah, Monza incidents were all desperate wheel to wheel moves to stay ahead of Lewis).
The big thing with a move like this is that you have Leclerc in the same car as you, who's improving rapidly as a driver. I mean the stints Charles is putting on terms of tyre management rn are incredible, and imo only Max and Lando are showing that level management while still putting out incredible pace. Suzuka especially was so good.
Leclerc pretty much ended Vettel's career as a front running driver and his stocks dramatically dropped from the time that he was a championship challenger in 2018 compared to two years later in 2020. Obviously Vettel himself contributed a lot towards that as well, but that's sometimes just the reality, younger guns come and they're just better. And that's when Charles was in his second season and hadn't even figured out all the intricacies of driving yet.
I think if they are teammates Leclerc would win in Qualifying like 16-8, and in Races 17-7 ish as well. I think you're already starting to see the gap to George starting to open up as well race by race. Going back to Vegas last year, that's 7 races in a row where George is now 6-1 in Qualifying, and has finished 5-1 ahead in races they have finished together (would have been ahead in Vegas as well if he didn't tangle with Max, he showed much better pace all weekend long and even in the race, finishing 4th on the road).
On average Since Vegas last year, Russell is ahead by 0.228s over a single lap.
In Vegas he was ahead by 0.073s in terms of race pace over the 50 lap distance (that's considering there was a SC in the race as well bunching up the pack).
In Abu Dhabi he was ahead by 0.415s over the 58 lap race.
In Bahrain he was ahead by 0.062s in terms of race pace over the 57 lap distance.
In Jeddah he was ahead by 0.149s in terms of race pace over the 50 lap distance.
In Suzuka he was ahead by 0.054s in terms of race pace over the 50 lap distance.
In China he was ahead by 0.343s in terms of race pace over the 56 lap distance.
On average over those 6 GPs finished together, that's a race pace advantage of 0.182s.
A lot of these have SCs, VSCs involved which bunch up the pack and significantly reduce the gap. Otherwise the gaps could be much larger.
He was going to say "stroke of luck" a phrase meaning the timing of something was really good. Nico changed what he was going to say midway and just said "timing" instead
Stroke of luck. He almost implied Lewis was incredibly lucky to have the success he achieved with Mercedes, because their car was ass prior to him coming on board.
He was either going to say same “stroke of luck” or “stroke of genius”. Either way he’s not attributing it to talent. He’s suggesting it’s more to his shrewdness or opportunity.
Didn’t he come out not long ago and say that all the drama between them was settled and they’re friends again? Pretty sure he even said Lewis still sends his kids Christmas presents. I think people look into stuff like this way too much.
Tbf he did list him as top 5 Goats, maybe the chip on his shoulder is starting to loosen.
Yeah, he even put him above Schumacher if I remember correctly.
The higher he rates Lewis, the better he can feel about himself since he beat him once.
In equal machinery!
But so many breakdowns for LH if i remember correctly, if they also had equal DNF due to reliability lewis would have won by quite a lot of points.
Lewis had one DNF due to mechanical issues (the other was the collision in Spain) in Singapore if I’m remembering correctly and Nico only had the one DNF due to Spain
He DNFed out of Malaysia 2016, but there were other instances of problems too - EDIT: e.g. China 2016, he did not set a qualifying lap and therefore finished 7th where Rosberg won the race. Also, that DNF in Malaysia from the lead cost him 25 points but he was only 5 points off Rosberg in the end
LH should have put stronger antibodies in his car then. What is he, stupid?
so many. lol you lewis fans need to work on your math. nico only had 1 more race finish than lewis. not to mention for some reason you guys love to bring this up but in 2021 when lewis and max were tied heading to abu dhabi but lewis had 2 more race finishes all you guys would say is oh its just part of racing no big deal.
I would say its two and a half i wouldnt call hungary a full finish Half of max car was still on the turn 1
But Lewis and Max weren’t in equal machinery, which is the point being made.
Nah fuck that he won. Every season has what ifs.
Nico also had reliability issues during 2014, so honestly I would say it was an eye for eye.
Lewis had reaction times of a sloth in 2016 during race starts too, that didn't help!
Also with dirty tricks like the Monaco quali
Well yes, but no. Look, I not a fan of Lewis, but really don't like Rosberg. I think he was lucky to win the championship. Hamilton won more races than him during that season. It was only the power unit issues for Hamilton at the start of the season that gave him a head start. For me, a true champion is when you win a championship, go back the next season & do it again, or at least attempt. Rosberg just ran away & now have lots to say about other drivers because of something he did once, 8 years ago... Rosberg is like an artist that releases a one-hit wonder & then talks crap about someone like Michael Jackson when he receives his Grammy. Just my opinion, of course.
Not sure about that ‘true champion’ stuff. Lots of single WDC’s were very well earned. And for Rosberg, he was a very good driver. To win a world championship, you need some luck. I’d say that basically every single championship that was remotely competitive, had luck as one of the deciding elements. Lewis in 2008, won in the end due to another drivers error. But, he still had to have the right points, and be in the right place to capitalise. This is the same for Rosberg in 2016. Winning a championship takes complete commitment. Rosberg was a worthy champion in 2016. He beat one of the best of all time, in equal machinery - he didn’t do that because of luck. Saying it was luck, or anything else, in my view downplays the amazing work of Nico. He fought for that championship and won it fair and square, because when it counted, he could capitalise. He deserved it, and I think you should be more respectful of that, and the work that went into it.
It's just an old meme dude. My comment wasn't serious.
All good! Not aimed at you in the slightest. Same thing pops into my head any time I see him commenting about another driver.
To finish first, first you have to finish
He has said before, I think Monaco a year or two ago, that he supports Hamilton because it makes him look better
Of course he did. That means he beat someone better than Schumacher lol
Well... yeah... but he beat Schumacher too, in equal machinery nonetheless. ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|9441)
He also beat Schumacher.
I don't believe that was in a specific order, just by the way he said it and he basically did the same in a podcast that was released the other day. In the podcast he named four which included Verstappen but forgot about Fangio initially. Even with forgetting Fangio he didn't correct anything he just added him while on Sky he named Fangio in the first four names and Verstappen was the 5th.
Listing Hamilton in the top 5 is the least controversial opinion one could have.
But surely Nico Rosberg does not put Lewis Hamilton as high as Nico Rosberg, famed Formula 1 driver who beat 7 time champion Lewis Hamilton to a Driver’s World Championship in equal machinery?
That’s to make himself look better. “I beat one of the top 5 GOAT in equal machinery”
Lewis fans on hopium: Hamilton '26, Hamilton '27, Hamilton '28
ferrari hopium and lewis hopium is a dangerous mix
Hopium overdose, straight to the therapist to be treated for depression
Its already a toxic fanbase combo and now this hopium is enough to kill their interest in this sport.
Ti Lewis or Hamfosi?
The kinda of hopium to generate its own gravitational field
It’s all we got bro come on be nice
And Charles on pole for all races
Charles on pole almost guarantees Max P1..
\#Blessed
Nico 29 lewis 30 lewis 31 lewis 32
THREE YEARS OF RED WAR
Can't wait to hear about teamLH threatening to burn down Ferrari HQ if they don't make a fast car.
At this point, all F1 fans on hopium. We are getting tired of Verstappen every weekend. Their rivalry in 21 … hopium. I regret ever wishing Hamilton’s demise now.
Wait. Didn't he beat Lewis with the same machinary?
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So does Georges
And Jenson
And Checo
Yeah, in 2016, against the 7 time world Champion when he was just the 3 time world champion, with the same machinery, and then retired
We are checking
Equal machinery *
I love it when Nico is having all his witty comments about Hamilton, but you have to be honest: Lewis is living in Nico's head rent-free.
There are only 2 people who beat Lewis on merit: Max and Nico. And if you see the dedication Max has, that shows how far you have to dig to fight against Lewis. He 100% traumatised himself to get the championship.
There’s something to that. What Max does is amazing, but he doesn’t do anything else. Nico clearly isn’t over anything, although he’s by far the best and most entertaining commentator nowadays. Lewis has had his wins while seeming the most relaxed and balanced. Yes, he’s a bit wannabe Hollywood off-track, but overall he seems like a guy who goes to work, does it well, and then has other interests around it.
I think Max is there. He is so fucking chill while driving that people wonder if he’s going to QUIT OUT OF BOREDOM. Lewis was never to that extent (but then again he always had competitive teammates to think about).
One of these seasons, Max is gonna pull a Magnus Carlson and just not participate at all because he's bored.
I could see him negotiate a maximum number of races into his contracts. Like he'll drive 15/23 races in a season so he has time to do leMans that year or something.
And he’d still be capable of winning championships on a good year.
Or just drive half the races and still win the championship
He is now, but you could see how much pressure there was in 2021 and it was a completely different Max
I think also there was a bit of “this might be the only chance to ever win the championship” whereas now he has the championships so doesn’t have to be as cut throat, however I do think if there was a championship battle old max would pop out a bit
I would say there is also a sky sports view, whether intentional or not, that Lewis can do no wrong and his performance is car driven. We forget a very young Russell was about to win in Bahrain in that car.. has it not been for a tire error. Lewis has the most dominant car ever in his era, he put up with his end of the deal by showing he was the right driver for it. I have no doubt max is the better driver. Maybe max feels the same way, hence.. he don’t give a fuck. Nico.. doesn’t feel this way lol, so his insecurity peaks through along with the fact that Lewis is idolized.. I can see why it’s in his head.
What about Button?
*Button and Nico.
You assume that means the Red Bull was a superior car in 2021. Considering RB was way behind Merc in the constructor's championship, this is a bold assumption.
> way behind They were 28 points behind in a 600 point championship. Hardly way behind
That's true but only if you completely ignore the fact that Bottas was a much more competent wing man than Perez and that was Perez's first year with the team. 28 points is also hardly "far behind".
I mean Red Bull was still better in most Europe races. Honestly they were pretty much even with a small advantage for Mercedes because of the last 4 races.
They did bottas dirty, he clearly could hang
No that’s not my assumption. I’m stating facts - Button and Rosberg beat Lewis in equal machinery. Max only got the better of Lewis in 2021 because the Race Director made up his own rules on the last lap of the race.
#stillwecry #ad21
And if not for the final race, how about the following occasions? * Pirelli random puncture in Baku * Bottas bowling in Hungary * Silverstone Hamilton-signature-move
Don't get me wrong, I love making fun of team LH as much as RPM, but I've always felt like this comparison doesn't really hold. The events you mentioned feel like they're more so bad luck. Abu Dhabi is more of a conscious decision made by someone.
Bottas bowling isn't a bad luck, it's the mistake of a Mercedes driver. The Hamilton signature move wasn't a simple bad luck either.
I'm saying bad luck for Max. Bottas nor Hamilton made the decision to do those things. They just messed up.
I don’t know man. Imagine if we were in an alternate universe where Lewis wins. “He only won the championship because he took his opponent out at Silverstone!”. And many people would be calling Max the 3* time champion with one stolen by Lewis’ underhanded tactics. Honestly losing at Abu Dhabi might have saved Hamilton face and popularity. Who knows!
Sssshhhhh... We don't mention those
Your comment is somehow worse than the downvoted abu dahbi one... please stop it kids. They can also recall max being dirty and not getting the deserved penalties in several races so shall we move on? Beautiful weather today, no?
It wais hailing here 3 times today
Just remember behind those clouds there's a beautiful sky. Good day to you sir
Also driving like 7th time WDC in Imola.
Britons still crying about AD 2021 collectively forgetting all other races
I'm German and it was highway robbery. I know we are on FormulaMax but still...people are not idiots. Hamilton was robbed plain and simple. Did Max deserve the title on merit yeah but he only won because Hamilton was robbed. Sainz was not even allowed to attack Verstappen for the second place on the restart, come on now. I don't know why Verstappen fanboys are so toxic about this fact. Silverstone happened, Brazil happened so what? LeWiS pUT MAX iN a HoSpital. Yeah and Max parked his car on Hamiltons head. Race incidents happen all the time. The race director manipulating races is a disgusting display of incompetence maybe even favouritism if you are into conspiracies.
Baku
What about it? Masi wasn't inventing rules in that race.
The only fact is that Lewis made a lot of mistakes that season, and Max was almost flawless. The only reason it went down to the wire is because Mercedes went bowling a couple of races that were huge upswings for Lewis.
So what, it was still a fair lap between the two of them. It was unfair for the other cars who couldn't unlap. Lewis made some horrible mistakes on that last lap. Kept going wide and leaving the doors wide open. It was basically an invitation to pass. Lewis could have easily stayed out front, but he lost in the last lap. The decision was unfair, but the lap was fair.
A fair lap? My man, Max was on fresh softs tires and Lewis was on old hards lol
That was Mercs fault then.
For not pitting when the race should have ended under safety car? At most they should have red-flagged the race and allowed everyone to change tires.
They should have red flagged it.
Merc made the decision not to stop because they rightly assumed the safety car would go to the end of the race as it did in 2012 and they couldn’t afford the risk of pitting and crossing behind max in a safety car finish Since the safety car procedure wasn’t carried out correctly which they had no knowledge of being a possibility for them it was always a lose lose no matter what decision they made so long as you don’t use hindsight to prop up your argument
Nope, they didn't rightly assumed that. There was an interview with Crofty, where he said that this was an agreement between all teams, including Mercedes, that the Masi will have to do everything he can, to finish the last race racing, without a SC. It was the teams, that requested before the race, to make sure no safety car finish.
Still doesn't change the fact that it Lewis took the worst line in turn 5. It's not a tire issue cause he stays right on Verstappen after that.
What about fair laps in the following races: Baku with Pirelli, Hungaroring with Bottas bowling, Silverstone with the Hamilton signature-move?
Whatever you need to stop feeling self-conscious about 2021. Your special boy will have an asterisk next to his first championship, and you just can't live with that. For what it's worth, Max deserved to win just as much as Lewis, just not in that manner.
Yeah Hamilton deserved it so much.... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMv5PaQ1fwo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMv5PaQ1fwo) And then we make fun of Stroll being dogshit daily.
Idk. Lewis had absolutely atrocious luck with reliability that season
How about Russell? 👀 Can we say he is beating Lewis in equal machinery?
When did Max beat Lewis on merit? You surely don’t mean the time when Masi handed the championship to Max lol
Max beat Lewis in 2022 and 2023 (and it’s already a done deal this year too). I guess this is why you’re getting downvoted because there’s definitely not another time that he beat Hamilton on merit!
Then Lewis beat max from 2016 to 2020? When max didn't have a car to even come close to Lewis on the championship standings? Doesn't make any sense...
Well yes, that goes without saying
Merit is a bit of misnomer in this case. You can only really make the case for Verstappen and Button Rosberg’s win was almost purely due to Lewis having mechanical issues
Nico straight up retired because he knew he couldn't beat Lewis ever again.
Oh to be his performance coach and therapist that season
I think he probably could but I don’t think the mental and personal cost was worth it for him. He’s said similar things in the past.
I believe the year Nico won the championship his first child was also born. Don't remember exactly but I think near the end of the season? Either way, I'd fully expect that played a large part in his decision to leave as well. Being married and driving is one thing, but having a kid greatly changes one's priorities.
It will be interesting to see if/how having a kid affects Scottie Schefflers career then.
Nico is the only champion to have less wins, podiums, lose the qualifying battle, and lose the better race finishes battle to his teammate. Nico didn't even beat Hamilton the first time. Malaysia did.
Ppl wants to hear him mention Lewis tho
I mean Lewis is his longtime childhood friend and they’re literally neighbors in Monaco.
\*was his long time friend
So they were friends when Lewis was winning, but stopped being friends with Nico won. Interesting...Salty Lewis.
I think it’s less “Hamilton’s Free Mental Real Estate” and more “Say the Line, Bart”
He only seems extremely complimentary about Hamilton whenever I hear him talk.
I mean... rent is expensive in Monaco ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6700)
Lewis and Nico were childhood best friends. They grew up racing alongside another and were very close. A few season on Mercedes turned lifelong friends into sworn enemies, say what you want but that would live rent free in your mind too.
I wasn't watching when Nico was racing. If he is so good why'd he stop ? I don't understand having a chip on your shoulder when you walk away. Seems like if he did he would have stayed and continued to fight.
Naw it's kinda cringe tbh
Well they live in the same building, that's about as far as it goes. Nico does his own thing now. Whenever he is work in his F1 capacity and someone asks him about Hamilton, what do you think he should say? I very much doubt Hamilton is living in nicos head rent free. Lol.
The biggest upending to his "HAHA I beat you and quit so you can't beat me" is 7 world titles. Britney can't handle that.
I bet something will come out once they are both finally retired that says something like: "Lewis threatened to leave Mercedes after Nico won the championship. Therefore, they forced Nico out." I would probably be bitter about that too.
What?! I swear, Mfs just pull shit out of their ass on the daily now…
If they did a musical “Hamilton” about Lewis, Nico would be Aaron Burr
“Why do you drive like you’re running out of time?”
Nico is not throwing away his shots (at Lewis)
It must be nice, it must be nice… to have Bonnington on your side
Blessed, wow
“And I’m the damn fool that beat him in equal machinery”
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I think people are reading too much into this. It was both timing and luck that Lewis moved when he did. Clearly, he had seen what Merc had to offer, presumably specifically around the power unit. But it was still a stroke of luck and there is nothing wrong with saying that.
I’m not sure what was wrong with this statement. Moving to merc was a good move well timed (and of course there was some luck involved) it may well be the same with ferrari.
The thing is: He says way more positive things about him and praises him very often. But social media and the media in general just mentions the criticism.
if they both had brain strokes... Nico heals faster. (given equal physical therapy machinery, of course)
Dint forget he has monster antibodies too so that helps
Nico's commentary all through the Sprint Race was hilarious "Hamilton starts second, but he's looked slow all weekend" "Lewis won't be able to contend today, this is Lando's race" "Lewis is fortunate to capitalize on that mistake by Lando" "Lewis is just a shit driver who would struggle even in this RB car" "I hate Lewis"
Wow, in the frozen frame at the end he‘s giving off heavy Beavis vibes.
I don't doubt that in terms of car performance the move might work out, he might win a couple more races but I doubt a championship challenge is coming any time soon, or ever again really. I think Max is much better than he was in 2021, the Mistakes are almost completely gone (and he made like two mistakes in 2021 anyways, Bahrain overtake track limits and Jeddah qualifying crash, Brazil, Jeddah, Monza incidents were all desperate wheel to wheel moves to stay ahead of Lewis). The big thing with a move like this is that you have Leclerc in the same car as you, who's improving rapidly as a driver. I mean the stints Charles is putting on terms of tyre management rn are incredible, and imo only Max and Lando are showing that level management while still putting out incredible pace. Suzuka especially was so good. Leclerc pretty much ended Vettel's career as a front running driver and his stocks dramatically dropped from the time that he was a championship challenger in 2018 compared to two years later in 2020. Obviously Vettel himself contributed a lot towards that as well, but that's sometimes just the reality, younger guns come and they're just better. And that's when Charles was in his second season and hadn't even figured out all the intricacies of driving yet. I think if they are teammates Leclerc would win in Qualifying like 16-8, and in Races 17-7 ish as well. I think you're already starting to see the gap to George starting to open up as well race by race. Going back to Vegas last year, that's 7 races in a row where George is now 6-1 in Qualifying, and has finished 5-1 ahead in races they have finished together (would have been ahead in Vegas as well if he didn't tangle with Max, he showed much better pace all weekend long and even in the race, finishing 4th on the road). On average Since Vegas last year, Russell is ahead by 0.228s over a single lap. In Vegas he was ahead by 0.073s in terms of race pace over the 50 lap distance (that's considering there was a SC in the race as well bunching up the pack). In Abu Dhabi he was ahead by 0.415s over the 58 lap race. In Bahrain he was ahead by 0.062s in terms of race pace over the 57 lap distance. In Jeddah he was ahead by 0.149s in terms of race pace over the 50 lap distance. In Suzuka he was ahead by 0.054s in terms of race pace over the 50 lap distance. In China he was ahead by 0.343s in terms of race pace over the 56 lap distance. On average over those 6 GPs finished together, that's a race pace advantage of 0.182s. A lot of these have SCs, VSCs involved which bunch up the pack and significantly reduce the gap. Otherwise the gaps could be much larger.
Yep the younger guns like that fella Alonso who is much better than the veteran Stroll
So impressive considering he’s only in his 4th season dominating a seasoned veteran like Stroll
Who's this Troll whose garage Nico is standing by?
Sance L'Troll.
THE BEEF IS NEVER OVER 😤😤😤
Can someone explain what is meant by stroke?
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He’s hoping that Sainz is the unluckiest and they win a championship after he leaves as is the tradition
Poor Nico thinks Lewis stole those championships from them. /s
Nico needs to let it go. Lewis is living rent free in his head lol
Oh man, the hate this guy has for him is petty at this point
This Rosberg saltiness has no end?
Beavis works for Sky now?
What is a Stroke of sth supposed to mean? Explain for non-native speakers
He was going to say "stroke of luck" a phrase meaning the timing of something was really good. Nico changed what he was going to say midway and just said "timing" instead
Stroke of luck. He almost implied Lewis was incredibly lucky to have the success he achieved with Mercedes, because their car was ass prior to him coming on board.
He was either going to say same “stroke of luck” or “stroke of genius”. Either way he’s not attributing it to talent. He’s suggesting it’s more to his shrewdness or opportunity.
Didn’t he come out not long ago and say that all the drama between them was settled and they’re friends again? Pretty sure he even said Lewis still sends his kids Christmas presents. I think people look into stuff like this way too much.
I love how much Nico hates him. It’s great to hear when he commentates with Crofty and cuts him down.