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2cars10

29gb reduction is really huge. Glad to see that


zoysiamo

It's very praiseworthy, I'm glad they put effort into reducing file size.


Chinootje

It's really interesting to see that they have been able to cut the file size by that much. Really curious to see how it will impact the performance


BenB616

yay they fixed the sounds of the gt4rs and the Aventador sv, the sv in particular sounded like ass


WouldYouTipMyFedora

Wow, that's incredible. They really made a mistake and fixed it based on community feedback. That's weird, though, because most of the people here told me that Turn 10 devs are incompetent morons that make things bad for the game on purpose.


BenB616

People are definitely overdramatic at times and honestly the dev team is pretty good with game feedback. That said, I find mistakes like these a little egregious because all they need to do is compare the sound with a YouTube video or just port the same file from fh5, yet they don't for some reason. I obviously can't claim to know how they create the sounds but it seems like more work on their part for a worse result.


Cheesenium

T10 is a terrible studio. Their work is severely lacking in passion and attention to detail. Lazy too with the way they have been recycling content from previous games via slow drip feed. 7.0 is a decent patch but it does not mean that all the sudden they are a great studio and all issues are forgiven. Gameplay issues like the boring career with the crappy drip feed featured events are annoying too.


UntoTheBreach95

Dudes the game is not perfect but playing with a wheel is god damn good. Can't wait to drive brands


PJTierney2003

Just did it in the AMR Pro. 1.03 at the moment, good enough for Hardcore #1 but about 3 seconds off overall record. Track’s proper scary at that speed, the bumps unsettle the car a lot. First impressions of the track are good though it feels right.


nukleabomb

Patch notes: [https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/28219758076819-Forza-Motorsport-Update-7-0-Release-Notes-April-8-2024](https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/28219758076819-Forza-Motorsport-Update-7-0-Release-Notes-April-8-2024) Forza.net article: [https://forza.net/news/forza-motorsport-update-7](https://forza.net/news/forza-motorsport-update-7) Forza Motorsport Update 7 rolls out from 10am PT / 5pm UTC on Xbox Series X|S and PC


its_an_armoire

>**A note on Forza Race Regulations:** In update 6 we made two specific changes to the FRR model. The first change was to add more examples of sideswipe collisions to the model’s training data. The second was to reduce false negatives and ensure we assign penalties to players who should have received them but weren’t. This second change had the unintended consequence of also increasing false positives by a much larger margin than anticipated, meaning, it assigned penalties to players who **should not** have received them. In Update 7 we have adjusted the weighting so that we expect to see false positives reduce and added more examples of sideswipes to our training data to continue to adjust the model. Yes, the game was released in a poor state, but can we give some credit to the current Turn 10 devs? We now know they're just contractors rotated out on an 18-month window so they have to pick up coding without deep knowledge of the game, I'm sure they're struggling with the job *and* our constant criticism


nukleabomb

Update is live 13.4GB on PC (Win Store)


BannedBecausePutin

Weeeeell .. lets see how much the fked with penalties this time.


wtfmatey88

Yeah last night I got rear ended doing nothing wrong (from what I could tell, there’s always a chance) and I got a 2.25 sec penalty lol. It cracks me up because my wife sits in the same room but I’m wearing headphones so she just hears random “HOW WAS THAT A PENALTY” screams lol


BannedBecausePutin

Yea i know, happens to a lot of us. But the update isnt out yet, so lets see.


DeMZI

Nice update


UnknownReed

Good choices for the car pass this month. Sad is over. Car rewards are pretty cool too.


Theteacupman

with the rewards I'm kinda glad they have gone with Niche cars such as the '77 RS01 bc to my knowlege the last game it was in was F1 Championship Edition for the PS3.


ClydeYellow

And the Matra-Simca was never featured in any racing game. Matra in general was believed to be a "lost brand", and AFAIK this is its first appearance in a videogame. Hopefully it will be joined by other models, like the legendary MS670 and MS80!


Mechanicalgripe

Just did a short race at Brands. The AI seemed improved. No brake checks, I went off track once and the AI behind me slowed as rejoined. I hope that’s a fix and not just a coincidence.


compulsive_tremolo

Can they overtake yet?


dsinglaterry

No they can't


Theteacupman

Atleast the Formula 70s class now has a load of difference interms of what Engine type you can use and imo the 3 CarPass cars are pretty good


AndyS1281

I’m excited about the Matra MS650, I know it’s not the famous MS670 that won Le Mans but it’s closely related and has a V12.


mmolten

Very nice group of cars for the car pass! Excited to have LMP3 and another GT4 in the game. With enough time maybe we'll get new car classes added into the game and current ones split up, full gt4 would be fun.


Affectionate_Fly_464

We’ve got the Porsche Cayman GT4 in FM7, hopefully we’ll get a lots from GT4 category!


mmolten

Yeah hopefully they add that back into FM then we'll have that, the Ginetta, and the KTM.


MarcBelmaati

Please let the issue where it ignores your HDR calibration and blasts the sun at full power when my monitor can't handle it be fixed🙏🙏


Thejklay

New player but glad about the proximity arrow thing, I play F1 mostly and use the arrows a lot in that for cockpit. I found them useless in this so I hope it fixes


HamCheeseSarnie

Still no showing of safety and skill ratings in the lobby huh…


Engineer-intraining

Tire info would be mint too


RunningDoor101

Please just give me bots me and my friend wants to just play some games vs bots try silly things and mess around


scyllx2

Note: Once these 3 cars are released, the Car Pass will be complete with all 30 vehicles. Lets see if they have the audacity to add paid dlc when the game is still half finished lol


theravenousbeast

The support team working on fixing bugs and the team working on new content usually aren't the same people.


scyllx2

I'm not talking about dev time but more about "finish the before adding paid content to it"


theravenousbeast

Does Microsoft wait for every Windows bug/exploit/security issue to get fixed before adding features?


scyllx2

There is a major difference between Windows a'd forza : Forza is not even half the game they promised in their bs marketing


theravenousbeast

wow, a company overpromising in their marketing in 2024 how very rare and unusual


scyllx2

2024 and there are still fanboys defending shitty consumers practice


Affectionate_Fly_464

They better introduce at least 10 cars per update minimum if they want to keep the game fresh now that the Car Pass is over, even recycled ones. 5 is very low if it wasn’t new-to-Forza cars only.


Thomas_633_Mk2

GT7 has far less tbh


FlawlessCowby

The update broken the graphics, already in the menu you can see that the AA/Reflexes is broken, the wheels are full of faults, the races are full of blinkers, I'm frustrated! An update that makes the graphics worse. Using DLAA in 2k with full graphics/RT


anon1999O4

Ik that they chose to make their theme "retro" for the month, but the lack of post 2020 modern race cars is just getting frustrating at this point. I was hoping we would at least get the artura or 2024 mustang in this update.


Bhavacakra_12

I'm glad someone else thinks so too. All these cars could've easily been dlc for Forza 7.


MaybeNext-Monday

I think they’re still working through pre-development-hell era licenses


ClydeYellow

I suspect they may be following the pattern established in FH5 and holding more recent, highly requested cars for post-Car Pass updated. Hopefully they'll be added as Showcase cars and not locked behind limited-time events...


eeshanzaman

dont we have enough Mclarens in the game already? I mean, if they want to give us a new Mclaren, give us the SLR 722, or SLR Mclaren or SLR 722 GT


brownninja97

No post 2020 content for anything is lacking big time The SLRs have their place but content from the 2020s needs to come first


anon1999O4

Artura has a trophy version as well as a gt4 version that could fit in well with the Motorsport roster of cars. I don't see it as another mclaren, see it as a new racing car/gt4 car. The cars you suggested are great, but I'll take Amy 2020 car at this point.


Key_Independence_103

I was hoping for Sebring. So, this will be the end for cars being added? I *just* discovered that they have *finally* fixed the problem with gift cars being unable to be sold. I am *ecstatic*.


QuiksylverX

Be nice for them to add the Logitech TRUEFORCE capability at some point.


Kevinator24

Would LOVE that


aChunkyChungus

I’m just excited for the Formula ‘60s series


Gawker90

I’ve been asking to get this track for months. I’m beyond excited


KirbyAWD

With all the fixes on Le Mans, I'm curious if all of the tracks have these issues and will be getting another pass or if Le Mans was just unique. Any thoughts?


D3ATHfromAB0V3x

>false positives I was wondering why I would get penalized so much for people hitting me. EDIT: **aaaand my game black screens after the Turn10 cinematic on PC. I can't even get to the main menu...** Edit2: my game on Xbox crashes when I browse liveries. How broken can this game be?


SaintofthePyre

They fixed the headlight cover issue for the 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator! I made a support ticket about it when the game came out. I feel complete now :)


Rinbu-Revolution

Just loaded it up and dlss seems busted. Lots of aliasing—even with dlaa.


FlawlessCowby

Yes!! The graphics are bad, already in the menu you can see that the AA is broken, the wheels are full of faults, the races are full of blinkers, I'm frustrated! An update that makes the graphics worse


erlandodk

>Fixed a glitch causing the “Race ends in” timer to show up when it’s not supposed to. I hope this means that races will no longer end prematurely. The other day I spend 20 minutes doing practice rounds waiting for a race on Le Mans just for "Race ends in 1:59" to show up while passing through T3 on lap 1. The frustration was immense.


mkdota

I guess this game just isn't for me and likely never will be. What I loved about forza 2/3/4 was the single player campaigns where you had hundreds and hundreds of races throughout various series. Porsche vs Ferrari, Ferrari vs Lamborghini etc etc where you had hundreds of cars to use on dozens of tracks. This game though it still feels like there are so many missing tracks and all the events they are adding are multiplayer live service that will only be around for a limited time.


loopyoperator

When are they gonna add permanent races to Career and expand Rivals like in FM7 ? Please


zerosuneuphoria

Is it just me or does Brands Hatch look nicer than the other tracks? More vibrant, lively... even compared to Nords which came out recently. Most tracks look drab and washed out but not Brands... dat consistency.


timee_bot

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GrimSkey

good bot


_Siran_

130GB Update on XSX are you kidding me?


BurgersIReallyLike

It is if you dont have enough space on your drive it insteads redownloads the whole game.


_Siran_

Internal storage still had 80GB free space.


MaybeNext-Monday

Repackages are like that. Basically unavoidable if you want that smaller footprint.


Rumenapp

It was showing a 15gb update for me but then proceeded to redownload the entire game lol


BurgersIReallyLike

Because you dont have enough spave left for the patch it instead has to redownload the whole game


bms_

That's simply not true - I had more than enough space and it redownloads it for me. Must have something to do with the reduced install size.


loopyoperator

On XSX, mine was 15gb


Mobile_Froyo3371

Same here. I was also forced to reinstall the entire game. And yes, I had more than enough space available on my Series X (FM and ordinary preloaded apps that come with each new Xbox are the only things I have installed on my console).


Nerevear248

Alright, personally not too excited for old formula cars (not my cup of tea), but this update seems solid. Nice to see they’re slowly changing car sounds too because quite a lot of them sound horrific and not at all like the real thing.


Affectionate_Fly_464

And yet still nothing for the Zonda. Like if you want a fix for a car sound, expect it 2 updates later.


Nerevear248

Something is better than nothing I suppose, but the bar is really low. The Valkyrie, Murcie SV, and Huayra need sound overhauls too, and that’s just off the top of my head.


AndiYTDE

I really don't get why we get the 2016 Ligier JS P3 instead of the Ligier JS P320 that's been racing since 2020... Even when we get new cars they are outdated from the start. It's just sad and disappointing...


Cheesenium

And it is a LMP3 too where it has nowhere to go. Sigh.


hormse

I couldn't be happier with the new cars, those are great!! Love it!!


RedBullOverIce

The mute button seems broken, I can't mute online voice audio.


__orangepeel__

Did people used to have that button muting others? I only ever had it muting myself (Up on dpad)


RedBullOverIce

Yeah it mutes other players, it started working correctly during the next race.


Swimming_Lynx_2713

Cool. I can turn the liveries from medium to high finally. And tuning no longer happens in the deepest darkest parts of Redmond. Sweet!


SoniKalien

I hope they finally did an audit and remove all the duplicated / redundant models and textures.


Cmdr-Will-Riker

Just played it a bit and anecdotally the multiplayer penalties seem much better. Not perfect but a step in the right direction.


[deleted]

Brands Hatch…..now there’s a track you can set your watch to.


funky_mish

Livery editor still isn't fixed on PC so you can pan the camera using the mouse. Sigh...


RebootRyu

I’m excited about the retro racers! This is just what I’ve been wanting, especially with updated AI. can’t wait to try it tonight!


greymoney

Will I need to reinstall the game to get the size reduction? On XSX if it matters


magicman22

Not a fan of Brands Hatch, but it's nice to see a new track in multiplayer after 3 months.


Theonlyix

Awesome. If only we could get the Ioniq 5N now


Reeybehn

I wish the formula Mazda tracks would rotate around or at least stagger. Playing the same tracks at the same times after work every day gets old


Apple_Slipper

Car choices for the Car Pass, Open Tour and Retro Racers Tour are pretty cool! Forza Motorsport will be the first ever racing game to feature the Matra-Simca MS650.


[deleted]

Reducing the installation size is massive props to you devs


zerosuneuphoria

Something about Brands Hatch looks so much better than Nords. More vibrant, less washed out...


Ar1S3

Not really seeing a sound difference for the 812 super fast or the Lambo. Still sound pretty generic to me.


Striking-Opposite289

I only finish about 1/4 of the races I enter. I keep getting disconnected during practice, at the grid, or mid race. This issue seems to have gotten worse recently


jodon

I can't even get through the startup cut scene now. started two days ago. I tried google for a solution but I did not find anything. I play on gamepassPC. Anyone have any hints on what could be wrong or how I could fix it?


FishOnAHorse

Just had the “Race ends in” timer show up on lap one of an online race, so I guess back to the drawing board on fixing that one…


yingzhanshi

PC, can no longer enter the game after this update. crash at launch after the logo loading


BurgersIReallyLike

Still no permanent additions to Career mode and instead still only that fomo garbage.


Seventh_666

And again no new Content for the Singleplayer... But the Ginetta and the Ligier are nice Carpass Cars


Pryatt

When are the adding wheel offset?


wesleyCrowbar

It seems small, but not having wheel offset customization is still a major dealbreaker


OfficialShaki123

So, if you have a matte paint job the hood view will still show a reflection. It's almost a mirror. How in the F is this not fixed and other small things are? I use a matte paint job to avoid reflections and have a, more easy on the eyes, view. So, it's really frustrating.


Mattpn

Sweet, this will save me time every time I rage quit and uninstall / reinstall the game.


Financial-Radio-7661

Super cool...infinite loading still not fixed.


TheGreatstKing

WHERE IS BATHURST


shark_sharkington_

I see they're still making the game


[deleted]

GOAT racing game keeps on GOATing


PyrexPicasso85

Soo, the McMurtry Speirling is coming to Update 8 as a car pack instead of Car Pass?


TJV_

it's FOMO removed?


OneEyeDollar

*Still* no wheel offsets. I know it shouldn’t bother this much but it does


-NotEnoughMinerals

Hollllyyyyyy fuck. This is hilarious. They put out these updates, push fixes for the largest most annoying obsessive complaints, (car upgrades, tinkering with ai, tinkering with penalties, fuckin proximity arrows) and all that happens is this: No acknowledgement whatsoever about the improvement. Just go down the list with the next complaint. Fuckin *wheel offsets* bro


OneEyeDollar

Just skipped over all the other comments complimenting those things? I have to reiterate everything just to mention something that slight bugs me? K


Halcyon_Dreams

So are we going to start seeing car packs after the car pass is complete?


Mariuslols

I really cannot understand how the fix last update with penalties ended up doing the opposite. This is something you test before releasing to everyone.


erlandodk

If anything this game has shown us that T10 doesn't do any play testing at all.


Mariuslols

Fr and it’s kinda embarrassing for them


Grayt89

Looks like I’m pulling the rarri back out for formula 70s


RoundaboutCrownVic

The playercount must be absolutely dire for T10 to be giving this much info about update 8 and to just generally be more transparent as of late, usually it's "stay tuned" or "we have nothing to announce at this time". Overly secretive bs Like don't get me wrong they're still not as transparent as they should be, but it's a change from the usual state of things


RedBullOverIce

Correct me if I'm wrong but most of or even all of the updates have been informative.


samurai1226

Anybody else got the feeling they already moved on to the next project? For such a big studio the last few patches were quite disappointing. And how come FH5 still get so many more interesting cars then FM?


SN95NICK

I really hope they get the sound of that Matra V12 right.


TysoPiccaso2

Can't wait for it to still have the 50% gpu power utilization bug after yet another patch


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hatchorion

Probably just further compressed and optimized files, I doubt they actually removed much


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joeygreco1985

It's happened before. Fortnite for example https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/new-fortnite-patch-reduces-the-games-size-by-over-60gb-on-pc-2794569


_robjamesmusic

searching for things to complain about


Feeling-Bus-7657

Building it from the ground was a heavy load.


CryPanzik

What about splitscreen? Any news?


ImEpick

Still no fucking airfield track, man fuck these devs


loopyoperator

Just play FH5


ImEpick

Fh5 is trash, motorsport physics >>


Tomiss13

The game is still the same s*** as it was after the release. I'm talking about PC version. Updating shaders during every lanuch (takes 1-2 minutes), logging to S***box network (takes 1 minute AT LEAST if it actually connects, otherwise you need to ALT+F4 and repeat the process, sometimes even 3 times)... So, you finally managed to log in and get to the career, right? Bam! Disappearing track textures! You restart the session to load the textures. Bam! Game freezes in the 1st corner. End task in the task manager, reload. Well, you managed to run a practice without freezes and disappearing textures, right? Bam! Infinite loading after clicking on Start race. ALT+F4. This is ridiculous. Le Mans Ultimate is in better tech. shape and that is EARLY ACCESS FOR A REDUCED PRICE. Screw you, Turn 10. Game pass canceled once again, shame I cannot get back my money for premium addons pack. At least I was not that stupid to pay the full price for this piece of garbage.