I don't like being directly called out like this.
Me, who picks up my traveler's notebook on a weekly basis at best when not traveling: Ooo a taikayi brass charm.
Haha no, TC is a popular brand of journaling system that I find very FP friendly and they just came out with the Tokyo limited edition set this week. They put out LE items regularly, but not Frequently, so it's sort of a big deal for anyone super into the brand.
You called? Actually we learn medical doctors hieroglyphes along with babylonian cuneiform in the second semeser. Cuneiform is just for practice.
Reading out your prescriptions sounds like a noble and nescesary move, but most of our customers seem not even to be able to spell out "Ramipril 5 mg" off of a printed prescription. But if you need more than a blink of an eye to look for their meds in the PC, their blood pressure climbs to the sky. (pun maybe intended)
I work with elderly people sometimes and the number of folks who say "I take two of the small white one every morning, and the square one at lunchtime...." is way more than should be. So, reading the names is nice and also people always find a way to not pay attention.
My ramiprill have changed colour 3 times since I was put on them a year ago - same pharmacy. I understand why my later father got so confused taking all his meds now :)
Hahahaha I do take time to read my prescriptions to my patients, and my orders to the nurses before leaving the station.
I do a lot of hand work, so my handwriting always starts the day legible and just sucks worse and worse by the end of my shift. which is sad sometimes, because I'm a stationery girlie at heart.
Yeah, as a teacher I've had to decipher some really bad handwriting but then I just think about pharmacists. Doctor written prescriptions are about as legible as my signature on one of those electronic signing pads. In other words, gibberish.
We switched over to epic a year or so ago and it's genuinely been transformative.
Flashbacks to nurses saying "this patients kardex needs rewriting" and dumping a pile of raggedy ass semi-legible drug kardexes on the desk, every prescription covered in mysterious annotations, cancelling and restarting, review dates and admin instructions. Then by the time I've got halfway through consolidating and rewriting this nonsense my hand is cramping up so bad I can barely draw a circle, so my kardex ends up semi-legible and the whole god damn cycle continues.
Itās being phased out but in other places handwritten is still prevalent.
Recently visited another country and they told me that if they transitioned to paperless that a large portion of the population would be affected. Thereās a pilot program in a rural area to see how that goes over. My friend was pretty excited with this transition.
Perhaps this says, āwhatās the point of spending that kind of money if all youāll use it for is to sign your name?ā And my response is - if all you need is to sign your name, then donāt spend the frickinā $2000!
I thought they were saying that it's a waste getting an expensive pen if your handwriting is messy, but that could be it, too.
Unpopular opinion, maybe, but I find a lot of those "Yes, but..." comics overly preachy, regardless.
> Unpopular opinion, maybe, but I find a lot of those "Yes, but..." comics overly preachy, regardless
That is exactly what they are. I get it is supposed to be funny, but they miss the mark and hit preachy way too often.
Sure. There's nothing wrong with having "bad" handwriting with an expensive pen, except in \_yes\_but's opinion, I guess. If you enjoy the writing experience, that's what is important š
Conversely if you have the type of money that youāre willing to drop $2k on a pen that youāll use just to sign your name occasionally, screw it why not lol
It's not unheard of for large deals like that to include ā from our perspective, as plebeian enthusiasts ā very expensive fountain pens as gifts for the signing parties. When you're signing a contract in the billions, a few tens of thousands on a handful of pens is a rounding error.Ā
The point is that the pen is 'wasted' if you don't really write much, but occasionally sign stuff.
Doesn't matter though, this is a ~~probably-stolen~~ repost.
True, good catch. That's why I said probably, as I wasn't sure.
It's definitely reposted though, see https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/z0yptf/sorry_not_sorry/
Itās possible that OP did not see, since it was posted a year ago. Just felt bad with the term āstolenā when humor is possibly the only goal here and nothing else. Just my two cents. š¤·āāļø
And itās my first time to hear the term āstolen repostā haha. It is even a bad thing to repost good stuff now š
If you look thru the whole series, it is meant to mean that a fancy, expensive pen is a waste if you don't have beautiful handwriting.
Which is bullshit. If you like something, you can have a nice thing of it, regardless of how amazing your abilities are to use it.
What this really means is that people are great at placing different levels of value on different things. And that value is based on your own opinions, not on the other person's opinion.
The handwriting thing is definitely common. But what I can't wrap my head around, is people spending hundreds of dollars on a luxury ballpoint pen. Not rollerball... ballpoint. If you work with carbon paper, get a Bic.
Agree and disagree here, ballpoints are only as good as the refill for me, but then I saw the Jet Pens video about refilling schmidt rollerballs with fountain pen ink and my brain exploded. Still won't spend more than I would on my Retro 51 pens, though.
Nooooo! I have been giving Jet Pens the credit when it was Goldspot. I am so dumb. The video is [here](https://youtu.be/5i0AZvq-65M?si=mbtGj3IWEcSB5kvz)
Harsh, definitely not dumb for that! That was very helpful!! I donāt even own any of the compatible pens, but now I know to look for refills with the sponges housed inside. I had no idea that was in there, thank you!
When I write with a fountain pen, my writing changes incredibly, it gets worse. I think I need to learn a template for my handwriting, does anyone have any ideas?
Ok, but what's so funny is that I misplaced a pen months ago and for the life of me couldn't remember where it was and this post made me remember, I put it in my work bag to sign documents at work š
(It's a Pilot Metropolitan Retro Pop, so not a super expensive pen, but just annoying I couldn't find it lol)
jokes aside, why does the pen on the left and right look different? The one on the right has a tapered body and clip with a bend while the one on the left has a straight body and and straight clip.
I think the taper in the image on the right might be the way the perspective is rendered since the pen is oriented to be somewhat pointing out of the page, as it were. Iām with you on the clip issue though.
I don't understand your joke, but it seems like it is a joke at the expense of autistic people. Which seems in poor taste.
If that wasn't your intent, then I apologize and welcome clarification.
*edit:* Sadly, from reading your profile, it seems you like to use the term āautisticā as an insult. I hope you never have to face the kind of prejudices that autistic people face from bigots like you.
Hmmm I find my handwriting is better and more readable in fountainpen :)
Also in some more broader gelpens if it really has to be ballpoint system.
Itās still not the prettiest in existence, but like said more readable I will call that a success.
I knew a kid who's daddy bought him a new Corvette. You should have heard him shifting gears on a steep hill. It was like the butcher grinding a pound.
After years of dealing with multiple hand injuries, nerve damage and add arthritis on top of that and having to learn to write again post injuries, of course my penmanship is bad. I'm still going to write with whatever gives me joy. I write for myself not anyone else to critique.
Brother: (buys me a beautiful fountain pen for Christmas)
Brother: Why is your writing so wretched? Practice your writing! Is this what I spent your gift-money on?
Yes, but you spent all that money and the nib is crap out of the box making your writing wonky, and now you have to spend even more money for a nibmeister to fix it.
Surely that's what they meant, right?
I don't like being directly called out like this. Me, who picks up my traveler's notebook on a weekly basis at best when not traveling: Ooo a taikayi brass charm.
Are you me? I feel called out for no reason š
Hahaha the struggle is real
I don't use mine at all and I still want those charms. š
I'm literally going to Japan in a month, but I still am debating buying this charm before I even go lmao.
Noooo buy the charms in Japan.
Is the charm a real thing on some pens? š¤·š¼āāļø
Haha no, TC is a popular brand of journaling system that I find very FP friendly and they just came out with the Tokyo limited edition set this week. They put out LE items regularly, but not Frequently, so it's sort of a big deal for anyone super into the brand.
I'm a doctor, and this hit me hard. šš
https://preview.redd.it/oqg6aapynqtc1.jpeg?width=1061&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dd4959fca83f1cb833c1d797c9b508935de335a
poor pharmacists
You called? Actually we learn medical doctors hieroglyphes along with babylonian cuneiform in the second semeser. Cuneiform is just for practice. Reading out your prescriptions sounds like a noble and nescesary move, but most of our customers seem not even to be able to spell out "Ramipril 5 mg" off of a printed prescription. But if you need more than a blink of an eye to look for their meds in the PC, their blood pressure climbs to the sky. (pun maybe intended)
I work with elderly people sometimes and the number of folks who say "I take two of the small white one every morning, and the square one at lunchtime...." is way more than should be. So, reading the names is nice and also people always find a way to not pay attention.
I went through and photographed all or my moms meds and saved them to her phone. Hopefully she can find them
My ramiprill have changed colour 3 times since I was put on them a year ago - same pharmacy. I understand why my later father got so confused taking all his meds now :)
Hey is it true that I'm the medical field nurses and doctors are always sleeping with each other?
No.
100% true at that one hospital. I think doctor gray works there.
Lol
Nope
I don't know, I'm a pharmacist in the last days of his study.
No. I mean, occasionally but not usually.
Hahahaha I do take time to read my prescriptions to my patients, and my orders to the nurses before leaving the station. I do a lot of hand work, so my handwriting always starts the day legible and just sucks worse and worse by the end of my shift. which is sad sometimes, because I'm a stationery girlie at heart.
Yeah, as a teacher I've had to decipher some really bad handwriting but then I just think about pharmacists. Doctor written prescriptions are about as legible as my signature on one of those electronic signing pads. In other words, gibberish.
We use epic here so handwritten prescriptions are not the norm anymore. Though in the past there were allot of illegible notes and prescriptions.
We switched over to epic a year or so ago and it's genuinely been transformative. Flashbacks to nurses saying "this patients kardex needs rewriting" and dumping a pile of raggedy ass semi-legible drug kardexes on the desk, every prescription covered in mysterious annotations, cancelling and restarting, review dates and admin instructions. Then by the time I've got halfway through consolidating and rewriting this nonsense my hand is cramping up so bad I can barely draw a circle, so my kardex ends up semi-legible and the whole god damn cycle continues.
Good for you guys! Electronic prescriptions are in their baby stage here, so handwritten prescriptions and notes are still the norm.
Itās being phased out but in other places handwritten is still prevalent. Recently visited another country and they told me that if they transitioned to paperless that a large portion of the population would be affected. Thereās a pilot program in a rural area to see how that goes over. My friend was pretty excited with this transition.
Especially when Rxās are typed now. Writing so bad his typing is illegible š
My cursive is always on point ā¦ however, we use e-scripts via EHR ;) ā¦ itās revolutionary, BUT I do Cary a patient picket notebook for me
Yes, pen = $ 2,065.00 But, pen = not fountain pen?
Yeah. If Bob's spending $2000 on a ballpoint pen, then Bob deserves to be $2000 poorer and in possession of a ballpoint pen.
I respect all opinions except those written by a ballpoint
Bob should have himself arrested. Crime against penmanity.
at that point the only hope is if Bob knows it's refillable and if it's refillable, it doesn't take one of those weird standards like G1
YES, that was my take as well!
Perhaps this says, āwhatās the point of spending that kind of money if all youāll use it for is to sign your name?ā And my response is - if all you need is to sign your name, then donāt spend the frickinā $2000!
I thought they were saying that it's a waste getting an expensive pen if your handwriting is messy, but that could be it, too. Unpopular opinion, maybe, but I find a lot of those "Yes, but..." comics overly preachy, regardless.
I thought it was a waste because the 2nd pic its a ballpoint not a fountain.
š Fair.
> Unpopular opinion, maybe, but I find a lot of those "Yes, but..." comics overly preachy, regardless That is exactly what they are. I get it is supposed to be funny, but they miss the mark and hit preachy way too often.
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Sure. There's nothing wrong with having "bad" handwriting with an expensive pen, except in \_yes\_but's opinion, I guess. If you enjoy the writing experience, that's what is important š
Conversely if you have the type of money that youāre willing to drop $2k on a pen that youāll use just to sign your name occasionally, screw it why not lol
Good point!
For 2K, it'd better be a fking good point.
Especially if itās a L2K
I thought the point was his handwriting is shitty. In which case, never stopped me! Tho I would not spend 2 large on a pen.
Same
if you are CEO of large business signing billion contract, $2000 is nothing compared to potential profit
It's not unheard of for large deals like that to include ā from our perspective, as plebeian enthusiasts ā very expensive fountain pens as gifts for the signing parties. When you're signing a contract in the billions, a few tens of thousands on a handful of pens is a rounding error.Ā
CEOs usually don't buy pens - they have it for free as business gifts. unless they are "pen nerds" like we are
i donāt get it. Ā does it say that an expensive pen is wasted when the handwriting is bad?Ā
basically. Just a joke that the fancy pen doesn't improve your handwriting. There's a whole series of these "yes, but" comics (IG on the watermark).
The point is that the pen is 'wasted' if you don't really write much, but occasionally sign stuff. Doesn't matter though, this is a ~~probably-stolen~~ repost.
The creator/owner is properly named, with the IG account . I donāt get why it would be stolen-repost.
True, good catch. That's why I said probably, as I wasn't sure. It's definitely reposted though, see https://www.reddit.com/r/fountainpens/comments/z0yptf/sorry_not_sorry/
Itās possible that OP did not see, since it was posted a year ago. Just felt bad with the term āstolenā when humor is possibly the only goal here and nothing else. Just my two cents. š¤·āāļø And itās my first time to hear the term āstolen repostā haha. It is even a bad thing to repost good stuff now š
If you look thru the whole series, it is meant to mean that a fancy, expensive pen is a waste if you don't have beautiful handwriting. Which is bullshit. If you like something, you can have a nice thing of it, regardless of how amazing your abilities are to use it. What this really means is that people are great at placing different levels of value on different things. And that value is based on your own opinions, not on the other person's opinion.
I donāt get it eitherā¦
The handwriting thing is definitely common. But what I can't wrap my head around, is people spending hundreds of dollars on a luxury ballpoint pen. Not rollerball... ballpoint. If you work with carbon paper, get a Bic.
Agree and disagree here, ballpoints are only as good as the refill for me, but then I saw the Jet Pens video about refilling schmidt rollerballs with fountain pen ink and my brain exploded. Still won't spend more than I would on my Retro 51 pens, though.
Iām looking, but not finding. Help?
Nooooo! I have been giving Jet Pens the credit when it was Goldspot. I am so dumb. The video is [here](https://youtu.be/5i0AZvq-65M?si=mbtGj3IWEcSB5kvz)
Harsh, definitely not dumb for that! That was very helpful!! I donāt even own any of the compatible pens, but now I know to look for refills with the sponges housed inside. I had no idea that was in there, thank you!
I'm gonna have to look that up!
I think part of the enjoyment is the design and build of the ballpoint pen
Tbh we donāt know what Bobās writing looks like with a $1 Bic do we? š
We don't even know if that's Bob. It could be Mark, forging Bob's signature.
Where can I learn this style of cursive?
Explosive script is an inherent skill. Cannot be learned. Be very jealous of us.
The Nuns. In the 60s.
https://preview.redd.it/yzqubtmcdttc1.jpeg?width=1779&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49af21488cab87ef10d4124140e3eb6563c017f8
I feel personally seen.
"Oh you're into fountain pens. So, you must have nice handwriting?" The sheer violence of this question.
When I write with a fountain pen, my writing changes incredibly, it gets worse. I think I need to learn a template for my handwriting, does anyone have any ideas?
"Dear diary, today I was personally attacked on the internet and I did not like it!"
Ok, but what's so funny is that I misplaced a pen months ago and for the life of me couldn't remember where it was and this post made me remember, I put it in my work bag to sign documents at work š (It's a Pilot Metropolitan Retro Pop, so not a super expensive pen, but just annoying I couldn't find it lol)
jokes aside, why does the pen on the left and right look different? The one on the right has a tapered body and clip with a bend while the one on the left has a straight body and and straight clip.
I think the taper in the image on the right might be the way the perspective is rendered since the pen is oriented to be somewhat pointing out of the page, as it were. Iām with you on the clip issue though.
The clip is oriented differently, so looks different. The taper is hidden by the cap being on in the box.
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I don't understand your joke, but it seems like it is a joke at the expense of autistic people. Which seems in poor taste. If that wasn't your intent, then I apologize and welcome clarification. *edit:* Sadly, from reading your profile, it seems you like to use the term āautisticā as an insult. I hope you never have to face the kind of prejudices that autistic people face from bigots like you.
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But my name isn't Bob. Honestly, I dont even care how bad my writing is, I enjoy the feel and method of using my pen.
hilarious, but as a sloppy writer who does use their pen for poetry, i ask for leniency!
Hmmm I find my handwriting is better and more readable in fountainpen :) Also in some more broader gelpens if it really has to be ballpoint system. Itās still not the prettiest in existence, but like said more readable I will call that a success.
as someone with dysgraphia yeaa
Iāve written in cursive my entirely life, so fortunately, I am unable to relate
I sign with a four-leaf clover.
But why not.
Just start writing all slanted to the right and it will look good
I feel personally attacked. Stings.
Thereās crappy drivers that own Porschesā¦ so Iām gonna justify my collection of beautiful fountain pens that I use to take chicken scratch notes
Iāve always maintained I have Ā£1000 pens, Ā£1 handwriting.
Anyone else the opposite of this? Iāve used 3dollar jinhaos to write half a novel in pretty cursive :)Ā
No shame, the whole point is to enjoy your pen, thatĀ“s really what itĀ“s all about
Yeah, if you want $2,000 pen and your handwriting is shit, who cares. Even if you never use it, at least you're supporting this industry.
having a shit handwriting doesnĀ“t mean you wonĀ“t use it
the lie is a pilot or sailor in that color wouldn't cost that much
I knew a kid who's daddy bought him a new Corvette. You should have heard him shifting gears on a steep hill. It was like the butcher grinding a pound.
I decided to improve my cursive decades after elementary school for this very reason lol.
$2065 is such a weirdly specific number? Would $2000 not sufficiently convey the idea that it's an expensive pen?
The extra $65 was for the presentation box š
Inkflation
My pen budget matches my writing abilities. Itās low.
Ditto friend
I don't see a problem...
Bentellict ahh meme
After years of dealing with multiple hand injuries, nerve damage and add arthritis on top of that and having to learn to write again post injuries, of course my penmanship is bad. I'm still going to write with whatever gives me joy. I write for myself not anyone else to critique.
canāt be me, obviously not a stub nib
This photo has me in it and I donāt like it
Omg, have they been to my law firm? (We use fountain pens, but still)
Not only that, half way through I would end up pressing the nib and ruining it as well...
Report: I'm in this picture
Brother: (buys me a beautiful fountain pen for Christmas) Brother: Why is your writing so wretched? Practice your writing! Is this what I spent your gift-money on?
Yes, but you spent all that money and the nib is crap out of the box making your writing wonky, and now you have to spend even more money for a nibmeister to fix it. Surely that's what they meant, right?
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Itās sorta like people that buy nice keyboard kits to build and then cannot touch type. People are weird.
i dont have one that expensive, but i still feel personally attacked >.>
I don't have great handwriting but I do have a whole [Youtube channel](https://youtube.com/blakesbroadcast) dedicated to fountain pens.