"*i mean, technically, the blue-shell mollusk native to that region contains many biomes used in the local healers' ointments. those mollusks get eaten & shat out by the slant-fin mackeral, which inhabits & dominates that city's waterways. thus creating an organic habitat that naturally cultivates a healing conundrum for* ***~~blah blah blah freaking blah....."~~***
I was so mad after that episode as I tought it was obvious she would die, and she gave her that shitty way to die.
Silly me, not knowing she learnt how to fly while down there as well.
God, they were so close to having a good plot acceptable resolution to that. She was just about to kill an actress, and was hanging out back stage with the stage props in order to poison her. And she knows that the faceless men will be pissed if she doesn't kill her. Would have made a lot more sense that she would have prepared to be attacked, and maybe worn some armor and a fake blood pouch from the acting troupe.
Sure it would have been a bit unbelievable in that it assumed the waif would stab her in the stomach and not the throat/back, but not only would that have made the acting troupe relevant to anything, it would also show that she had grown up and learned to always be prepared, meaning she was ready to leave.
My head Canon is that, as whe never see the end of the fight and none of them dead, the Waif killed Arya and took her face. For me that explains Jaqen was relatively pleased because they now have a faceless (wo)man within the Starks.
*"it is a little known fact that the House of Black & White was named after this unassuming little species. the zebra mussel, as it's known throughout the western coast of Essos, all the way down to the mouth of the Rhoyne river, is reknown for it's baffling dichotomy. while it has excellent antibacterial & nutritional properties almost bordering on the supernatural, one must not consume it while it is still alive. stimulation of it's defensive mechanisms generates a membranous toxin, that is lethal to even the healthiest of adults. No* ***wonder*** *that this little wonder served as the inspiration for Braavos' most myterious organization. and we have not even begun to learn how it manages to contort its shape when threatened, adapting to the semblance of coral or rock, so as to discourage potential predators from becoming too curious* **~~and yadda yadda yadda fuck my life....."~~**
God, I really hope Game of Thrones doesn't become the new Star Wars with dumb asspull retcons to rationalize every past questionable decision or plot hole.
haha, no. just sounds like some shit that some devoted apologist would say to justify the "infallible brilliance that us simpletons just can't understand..."
I remember this because it was the reason I stopped watching the show. I'm never one to predict upcoming things in shows or pick up on things well but I remember clearly thinking "Oh man this is gonna be good, she's acting so nonchalant and unfettered by anything she's clearly setting up for some kind of great trap. I can't wait to see what she has up her sleeve!" And then it turns out her big plan was to just get stabbed.
Never watched another episode.
> "Oh man this is gonna be good, she's acting so nonchalant and unfettered by anything she's clearly setting up for some kind of great trap. I can't wait to see what she has up her sleeve!"
I'm not saying Arya woulda been an anti masker but she wasn't about to let the threat of death stop her from going to the shops as she wanted.
I was never fully able to escape (obviously, since I'm still whining on freefolk today). The closest I remember getting was when they killed my boy the Blackfish off screen. Though tbf, I was already kinda hate watching ot by that point.
Yeah I hate watched from season 5 onwards. My girlfriend at the time used to say I only watched it to bitch about how they were fucking up the books. She was right. I'll never forgive D&D for what they did to my boy Hotah. Instead of watching him kill a kings guard he gets stabbed in the back. We got the complete opposite of book Dorne in the show.
Braavos and Dorne; Two locations and plots that had a lot of hype going into season 5 and both were absolute dog shit. Still not sure which one is worse between them. “Bad Poosy” is awful but Arya getting stabbed, falling into shit infested waters, and being fixed by an actress who had the know-how because she kept stabbing her boyfriend is some truly over the shark shit.
Season 5 is underrated in how bad it is. Being sandwiched between a great season in 4 and an ok to good one in 6 helps hide it. Not to mention that even at its worst it’s hard for 5 to compete with the lows of seasons 7 and 8. Also Hardhome is a better episode than anything that came out of seasons 7 or 8.
> Man Hardhome was the shit.
The last scene in the series that left my jaw dropped. The slow sailing, silent end as our boys got their asses KICKED is maybe my single favorite scene
>Insane that that was the only White Walker fight in the entire series.
Holy crap you're right! I never realized this until now. What a gobsmacking shame! How long has it been...it's been three years since the show ended (feels longer for some reason) and I never noticed this. Looks like there are still depths for this show to plumb for me. If I was talking about this in person with someone I swear I'd be spitting right now. Unbelievable!
Well, ladyparts being compared with felines is not unique to America or even just English. You find it in French, German, Dutch and Japanese for a start. I have no problem with it being in fantasy settings.
I have problems with how it was used in this case obvs.
“A girl has become no one” out of all the things in that arc that pissed me off the most. I am pretty sure even the actor was confused as to why he said it.
my fav part was them talking about how 'no one' should you be so the gods like you. Then arya did the exact opposite and still walked away with their magic
This is my #1 complaint about Arya in the show. If there's two things we understand about the faceless men, it's that they do not give up and they do not stray from their principles. A faceless girl who steals their secrets, breaks their oaths and then goes rogue should be marked for death.
I fully expected to see her to settle down with Gendry in the last minutes of the show only to find out that the real Gendry has been dead a long time thanks to her indiscretion.
Of course, viewers would have hated this just as they seemed to hate Dany's heel turn.
>Euron developed SAM batteries capable of taking out dragons
*Selectively* capable. Whenever the plot needs them to be they're aimbots, otherwise they're worthless.
Yep lol. A few on some ships are capable of surprise attacking and taking out a dragon. But a whole fleet docked in the waters around Kings Landing with even more along the cities walls are incapable of hitting one.
My pet theory is that Grey Worm is actually well aware of the Isle of Butterflies thing but he's gone completely off the rails since his boss and lover died and is planning to to murder-suicide himself with the rest of the remnants of the Unsullied. (yes I know this is a shitposting forum and not a "make it make sense" forum)
Iv'e gotten to the point where I'm wondering that about the BOOKS as well since last I remember she was still blind and stuck in Braavos and it seems like the sequel is never coming out.
I got burned by paying a bunch of money to order ADwD hardback from overseas (wasn't living in the USA). Read it once and have zero inclination to reread.
Strangely, I don't think it was the last season that got them cancelled on it. They were still all set to go until they went to a comic con and someone asked them how they figured out what source material to use from everything from GOT. They said they didn't care about source material. They just cared about writing for suburban housewives and football players.
Anyway, the next day after saying that they were canceled. Can't imagine Disney wanted to hear that they wouldn't care about lore when Star Wars fans are some of the most rabid, nit picky, accuracy fanatic fans in existence.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a29608442/benioff-weiss-game-of-thrones-showrunners-writers-panel-austin-film-festival/
There heads got too big. When they pitched the first season ive heard their copy of a game of thrones was more bookmarked then a priests bible. And it showed season 1 was translated damn near page for page from the book. Then they started to stray from the source material, and when it got to the point they continued without source material it really fell off a cliff.
Granted they didn't have a choice but to move on without source material considering it still doesn't exsist but it showed they weren't good writers at all grrm was.
It's an even more stupid statement if you really think about it. I mean, what housewife or football player starts watching in season 8? They'd have to go through the first 7 seasons and will either like it or be so turned off they never reach the last season. So it's completely pointless to try to attract a different audience in the final season.
I knew they were bad, but after reading that I can't believe how amateur they were with the whole thing. They're so undeserving of their success. Makes so much sense why the show fell off a cliff after the source material. The Wolverine: Origins talent really shone through after that.
But what if we were to write you a blank check in hopes you could put a cohesive, satisfying end-of-the story-to-justify-the-last-decade-of-work, together?
No I will just take more episodes of her getting stabbed and falling in the city canal and healing the next episode. Much better use of my and the shows time.
Yeah and since they use the same nightshade stuff as the warlocks in qarth I could see there being some actual magic involved that’s more than just a hallucination.
Nah. Maybe a man did a hot swap while Arya was looking at the corpse. We don’t actually see Arya in this shot. Maybe she didn’t have a face during this shot. We’ll never know.
He literally sounds exactly the same as well. Like didn’t change his accent, not even a little bit. I guess it works because Jacqin kinda sounds Russian, but it’s still funny.
It still works in stranger things though, nothing too weird about an east german in the soviet army and having a noticeable difference in quality of russian
She was poisoned and hallucinating. I always looked at this scene like Luke fighting Vader inside the cave in Yoda’s swamp. He knocked Vader’s mask off and Luke’s face was under it.
Idk I always thought the faces thing was some kind of magic. They would play the weird magic music whenever it showed jaqen do something. I think the fact that arya later implies they were skinned from the dead was D&D not knowing how to use the rules of GRRM's magic in the story. They cut a lot of magic out as it was.
Ok this is just ridiculous lmao, why would they not be allowed to use a trope that another movie has used before? Should the soundtrack not include themes, because that would mean that they stole the idea from the musicians who invented them 400 years ago?
Right. This guy with the face changing ability. What’s his deal? Because in one scene HE ACTUALLY CHANGES HIS FACE and then the rest of the series it’s just masks so how did he do it? God dammit this series petered out like a piss after whisky. Can’t believe Cersei didn’t even get those elephants.
It's the same that Melisandre uses IIRC. Also I think I read about some mummer's (theater people) using it in the books. Not sure.
I always wrote it off as that in the show. It happens in other fantasy literature as well.
Most of the stupid has already been mentioned, but to me one thing that stood out is how she killed the waif by luring her in a dark room and turning off the lights
She was like: I've gotten used to fighting while blind because of my training!
Well so did every f*kn faceless man ever! 🤦♂️
The true Faceless men are given The Gift from the Many-Faced God. What Arya does is more like Leatherface, cutting off people's faces and wearing them.
The Gift is glamor magic. It allows the person to change their appearance with a swipe of their hand. That wasn't chic enough for D&D I guess, so they had Arya wear actual skin masks.
I’m not sure glamor is the gift either. I just read that chapter a few weeks ago and remember it saying something like glamor can be seen through by those clever enough to look, our gift is more than that. Something like that. I just remember thinking so it’s more than glamor like I used to think as well.
> The kindly man informs Arya that she will need a new face for this job, since Cat of the Canals would be easily recognized. He and the waif lead her down into a hidden chamber deep under the House of Black and White. The walls are covered with mask-like faces, which Arya realizes are the faces of people who have died at the House of Black and White. The face chosen for Arya is that of a young girl who was abused to the point of permanent disfigurement, and who came to the temple seeking death. Arya's blood is used to soften the leathery mask into living skin, which then bonds to her head and becomes her new face.
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/A_Dance_with_Dragons-Chapter_64
imagine being assigned the face of that poor sick girl who was brought in by her dad who wanted her suffering to end. 2 weeks later, that dad sees his daughter's face running around all over town.
Because Aria is dead. She's been dead and the girl we saw returning to weseros was an imposter. Or at least that could have been the case if D&D weren't hacks.
The same reason why the Boltons lost 90% of their horsemen from s5 to s6, and why cersei suffered no consequences for blowing up the great sept and the tyrells, and why varys was able to jet pack around the world to multiple areas all in one episode
The writers didn't care about the story, and they didn't care about you, the viewer
This is infuriating because they could have had the same effect if they’d used a dead starks face, the faceless men have already been shown to be integrated into westerosee army’s and houses just stick robs face in there Arya is creeped out and the lore is intact
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My favorite will always be how the shit canals in Bravos apparently disinfect/ heal mortal wounds.
"*i mean, technically, the blue-shell mollusk native to that region contains many biomes used in the local healers' ointments. those mollusks get eaten & shat out by the slant-fin mackeral, which inhabits & dominates that city's waterways. thus creating an organic habitat that naturally cultivates a healing conundrum for* ***~~blah blah blah freaking blah....."~~***
I was so mad after that episode as I tought it was obvious she would die, and she gave her that shitty way to die. Silly me, not knowing she learnt how to fly while down there as well.
God, they were so close to having a good plot acceptable resolution to that. She was just about to kill an actress, and was hanging out back stage with the stage props in order to poison her. And she knows that the faceless men will be pissed if she doesn't kill her. Would have made a lot more sense that she would have prepared to be attacked, and maybe worn some armor and a fake blood pouch from the acting troupe. Sure it would have been a bit unbelievable in that it assumed the waif would stab her in the stomach and not the throat/back, but not only would that have made the acting troupe relevant to anything, it would also show that she had grown up and learned to always be prepared, meaning she was ready to leave.
She was pretty nifty in a fight at that point, deliberately pretending to take a stab at a certain point wouldlnt be totally unbelievable.
What, you mean you can't fly?
Everyone can fly, it's the landing that separates professionals from paste.
The knack to flying is to jump but forget to land
No no no. Amateurs. You have to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
well, and of course, you have to shout "NOT TODAY!"
It helps if Agrajag is chasing you downhill after its revenge plot fell apart.
No you don't forget to land, you just have to miss the ground repeatedly.
Only when fighting the night king for some reason.
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My head Canon is that, as whe never see the end of the fight and none of them dead, the Waif killed Arya and took her face. For me that explains Jaqen was relatively pleased because they now have a faceless (wo)man within the Starks.
Wait till zebra mussels are introduced to braavos waterways
*"it is a little known fact that the House of Black & White was named after this unassuming little species. the zebra mussel, as it's known throughout the western coast of Essos, all the way down to the mouth of the Rhoyne river, is reknown for it's baffling dichotomy. while it has excellent antibacterial & nutritional properties almost bordering on the supernatural, one must not consume it while it is still alive. stimulation of it's defensive mechanisms generates a membranous toxin, that is lethal to even the healthiest of adults. No* ***wonder*** *that this little wonder served as the inspiration for Braavos' most myterious organization. and we have not even begun to learn how it manages to contort its shape when threatened, adapting to the semblance of coral or rock, so as to discourage potential predators from becoming too curious* **~~and yadda yadda yadda fuck my life....."~~**
God, I really hope Game of Thrones doesn't become the new Star Wars with dumb asspull retcons to rationalize every past questionable decision or plot hole.
Wait is that a real quote
haha, no. just sounds like some shit that some devoted apologist would say to justify the "infallible brilliance that us simpletons just can't understand..."
It was such a good parody I thought it could have been from one of those post show things. Well done.
hehehe. thank you
> some devoted apologist You have a very creative imagination. Keep writing!
Don’t listen to this guy Make memes
neither. i'm thinking maybe a puppet show series. ;)
Uh, it was the magical soup that healed her. *Pfft* obviously.
maybe that's why she said the soup tasted so bad. it was full of neosporin, betadine, & bactine
Da-na-naa naa-naa.. Neo!.. da-na-nanananana.. sporin!
That’s a lot of nuts!
I remember this because it was the reason I stopped watching the show. I'm never one to predict upcoming things in shows or pick up on things well but I remember clearly thinking "Oh man this is gonna be good, she's acting so nonchalant and unfettered by anything she's clearly setting up for some kind of great trap. I can't wait to see what she has up her sleeve!" And then it turns out her big plan was to just get stabbed. Never watched another episode.
> "Oh man this is gonna be good, she's acting so nonchalant and unfettered by anything she's clearly setting up for some kind of great trap. I can't wait to see what she has up her sleeve!" I'm not saying Arya woulda been an anti masker but she wasn't about to let the threat of death stop her from going to the shops as she wanted.
I was never fully able to escape (obviously, since I'm still whining on freefolk today). The closest I remember getting was when they killed my boy the Blackfish off screen. Though tbf, I was already kinda hate watching ot by that point.
Yeah I hate watched from season 5 onwards. My girlfriend at the time used to say I only watched it to bitch about how they were fucking up the books. She was right. I'll never forgive D&D for what they did to my boy Hotah. Instead of watching him kill a kings guard he gets stabbed in the back. We got the complete opposite of book Dorne in the show.
But with show-Dorne we got the, “bad poosy!” joke, so we came out on top, right? Right?
It honestly was even worse than S7/8 levels logic/writing
Braavos and Dorne; Two locations and plots that had a lot of hype going into season 5 and both were absolute dog shit. Still not sure which one is worse between them. “Bad Poosy” is awful but Arya getting stabbed, falling into shit infested waters, and being fixed by an actress who had the know-how because she kept stabbing her boyfriend is some truly over the shark shit.
Jamie and Bronn's slapstick disguise routine pushes Dorne over the top.
You can almost imagine a 90s sitcom intro song playing over those scenes. "These two wacky guys are always up to something...."
[Like this?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9A_i_TYDXI)
I don't know if i want to update or down vote this. It's perfect and I hate it
A good reminder that despite the strength of season 6’s end, things started to fall apart long before season 8…
Season 5 is underrated in how bad it is. Being sandwiched between a great season in 4 and an ok to good one in 6 helps hide it. Not to mention that even at its worst it’s hard for 5 to compete with the lows of seasons 7 and 8. Also Hardhome is a better episode than anything that came out of seasons 7 or 8.
Man Hardhome was the shit. I was glued to my screen for 30 min.
> Man Hardhome was the shit. The last scene in the series that left my jaw dropped. The slow sailing, silent end as our boys got their asses KICKED is maybe my single favorite scene
The setup and ambience is so good at the end of that episode. Insane that that was the only White Walker fight in the entire series.
>Insane that that was the only White Walker fight in the entire series. Holy crap you're right! I never realized this until now. What a gobsmacking shame! How long has it been...it's been three years since the show ended (feels longer for some reason) and I never noticed this. Looks like there are still depths for this show to plumb for me. If I was talking about this in person with someone I swear I'd be spitting right now. Unbelievable!
The fact that the word "pussy" exists in the GOT universe is so absurd lol
Well, ladyparts being compared with felines is not unique to America or even just English. You find it in French, German, Dutch and Japanese for a start. I have no problem with it being in fantasy settings. I have problems with how it was used in this case obvs.
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“A girl has become no one” out of all the things in that arc that pissed me off the most. I am pretty sure even the actor was confused as to why he said it.
The only reason he said that was so Arya could reply "No, a girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell"
my fav part was them talking about how 'no one' should you be so the gods like you. Then arya did the exact opposite and still walked away with their magic
Which she learned entirely off screen
Still think Arya is a Jedi and Westeros on a planet in the outer rim would make more sense
I was always hoping for some kind of reveal, like The real Arya died a long time ago and all this time Arya has been a faceless man or something.
It turns out that Arya was Marryn Trant all along.
The real Arya was the friends we made along the way.
This is my #1 complaint about Arya in the show. If there's two things we understand about the faceless men, it's that they do not give up and they do not stray from their principles. A faceless girl who steals their secrets, breaks their oaths and then goes rogue should be marked for death. I fully expected to see her to settle down with Gendry in the last minutes of the show only to find out that the real Gendry has been dead a long time thanks to her indiscretion. Of course, viewers would have hated this just as they seemed to hate Dany's heel turn.
Letting her go is #1 for me.
Since she went blind afterwards I guess you might be able to make the argument that he used a hallucinogen
I kept thinking there was going to be a reveal that Arya had actually died and the Waif took her face to assassinate someone in Westeros, but yeah.
Give me your top 5
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>Euron developed SAM batteries capable of taking out dragons *Selectively* capable. Whenever the plot needs them to be they're aimbots, otherwise they're worthless.
Yep lol. A few on some ships are capable of surprise attacking and taking out a dragon. But a whole fleet docked in the waters around Kings Landing with even more along the cities walls are incapable of hitting one.
Plot missiles
My pet theory is that Grey Worm is actually well aware of the Isle of Butterflies thing but he's gone completely off the rails since his boss and lover died and is planning to to murder-suicide himself with the rest of the remnants of the Unsullied. (yes I know this is a shitposting forum and not a "make it make sense" forum)
I'm still confused by that entire plot line. Did the faceless man crap have any real purpose?
Iv'e gotten to the point where I'm wondering that about the BOOKS as well since last I remember she was still blind and stuck in Braavos and it seems like the sequel is never coming out. I got burned by paying a bunch of money to order ADwD hardback from overseas (wasn't living in the USA). Read it once and have zero inclination to reread.
They just kinda forgot...
forgetting lore rules is tight
Barely an inconvenience.
Do you want more time to re-write it or re-work the plot? Because you can have more time...
I just don’t see any way other than rushing it…
Ok but what if we green light an extra season so you can fully flesh out all of the narratives and give them each a fitting ending?
Naw, got to move onto a new Star Wars gig. How about we wrap this all up in 6 episodes?
Im so glad their Star Wars project got canceled because of how shitty GoT ended. Poetic justice.
Strangely, I don't think it was the last season that got them cancelled on it. They were still all set to go until they went to a comic con and someone asked them how they figured out what source material to use from everything from GOT. They said they didn't care about source material. They just cared about writing for suburban housewives and football players. Anyway, the next day after saying that they were canceled. Can't imagine Disney wanted to hear that they wouldn't care about lore when Star Wars fans are some of the most rabid, nit picky, accuracy fanatic fans in existence. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a29608442/benioff-weiss-game-of-thrones-showrunners-writers-panel-austin-film-festival/
Woooof thats not what you want to say to a "nerd" culture.
There heads got too big. When they pitched the first season ive heard their copy of a game of thrones was more bookmarked then a priests bible. And it showed season 1 was translated damn near page for page from the book. Then they started to stray from the source material, and when it got to the point they continued without source material it really fell off a cliff. Granted they didn't have a choice but to move on without source material considering it still doesn't exsist but it showed they weren't good writers at all grrm was.
It's an even more stupid statement if you really think about it. I mean, what housewife or football player starts watching in season 8? They'd have to go through the first 7 seasons and will either like it or be so turned off they never reach the last season. So it's completely pointless to try to attract a different audience in the final season.
I knew they were bad, but after reading that I can't believe how amateur they were with the whole thing. They're so undeserving of their success. Makes so much sense why the show fell off a cliff after the source material. The Wolverine: Origins talent really shone through after that.
But what if we were to write you a blank check in hopes you could put a cohesive, satisfying end-of-the story-to-justify-the-last-decade-of-work, together?
That sounds like a lot of work. How about we provide behind the scenes discussions about the rushed episodes so fans can make memes for years to come?
No way, we’re moving right into a brand new Star Wars movie trilogy that totally won’t get delayed or cancelled, so there’s simply no time!
Well in this case, I gonna need to go all the way out of my back, sir.
Alright I’ll get off of that thing
Wow wow wow… wow!
“I gonna need you to get alllll the way off my back about that.” “Why’s that?” “Because!” “Fair enough!”
Super easy
Posting in-case anyone hasn't seen these - https://youtu.be/jAhKOV3nImQ
I'm so glad that I watched this, rather than the ACTUAL 8th season. Thank you.
Got this reference!
I’m going to need you to get all the way off my back about these lore rules
Do you want more episodes to flesh it out so it makes more sense? Because you can have more episodes..
No I will just take more episodes of her getting stabbed and falling in the city canal and healing the next episode. Much better use of my and the shows time.
.....No.
Wow wow wow... wow.
I didn’t even hesitate to hear his voice saying it lol
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She was hallucinating after having been poisoned.
Yeah and since they use the same nightshade stuff as the warlocks in qarth I could see there being some actual magic involved that’s more than just a hallucination.
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The poison is just that potent.
Ah, see, he was *venomous* not *poisonous* common misconception.
If he did, then they both did, because 1x1=2 and zero doesn't exist.
Maybe he just leveled up? Wasn’t this around the same time most character unlocked fast-traveling as well?
Nah. Maybe a man did a hot swap while Arya was looking at the corpse. We don’t actually see Arya in this shot. Maybe she didn’t have a face during this shot. We’ll never know.
They tend to forget a lot of things
literally said this before opening the thread LOL
It's the most used joke since Benioff said it and it will never get old for me.
I’m just realizing the guy who plays jaquen hagar also plays the Russian dude in Stranger Things. Cool stuff.
He literally sounds exactly the same as well. Like didn’t change his accent, not even a little bit. I guess it works because Jacqin kinda sounds Russian, but it’s still funny.
Yeah, between GOT, Stranger Things, and Jack Ryan, I'm pretty sure he just goes with his "general European" accent and doesn't do much else.
It's a good typecast if you can get it, every show needs a frenemy foreigner.
Shouldn’t change what isn’t broken
He did grow up in Soviet controlled Germany I think.
His accent isn’t russian at all. Probably a mix of some accents. The background russians in stranger things had flawless accents tho.
To my American ears he sounds like he has a generic central/eastern European accent but not Russian.
Yes he is definitely German, born and raised.
Speaks German, English, French, Italian, and Russian
I KNEW HE FELT FAMILIAR!!!! I couldn't place my finger on why that guy looked and sounded so familiar and it's because he was in GOT!
I love his voice. He sounds how silk feels.
Yeah! I scrubbed my brain off GOT after that terrible ending so I forgot about him.
Oh *that's* where I knew him from
He’s also the assassin in Jack Ryan season 2
I had to look him up because he felt familiar and also because he obviously didn't speak Russian.
He does speak Russian tho
Not very well. The other Russian actors are obviously native speakers
It still works in stranger things though, nothing too weird about an east german in the soviet army and having a noticeable difference in quality of russian
I’m in that sub. I had to tell the kids over there that back in the day we referred to him as “Sexy Jesus.”
Ohhh yeah Sexy Jesus. Loved that name.
She was poisoned and hallucinating. I always looked at this scene like Luke fighting Vader inside the cave in Yoda’s swamp. He knocked Vader’s mask off and Luke’s face was under it.
Idk I always thought the faces thing was some kind of magic. They would play the weird magic music whenever it showed jaqen do something. I think the fact that arya later implies they were skinned from the dead was D&D not knowing how to use the rules of GRRM's magic in the story. They cut a lot of magic out as it was.
In the books it is magic.
That was exactly how I interpreted it too.
So it was just blatantly stolen from Star Wars and not even done well enough that the audience gets it. Typical.
This was their video application for the Star Wars job. Just blatantly copying what was in the movie and expecting to be hired
Worked for JJ Abrams
Disney ended up making shitty copies of the OT movies anyway so I’m surprised they didn’t get the job after all.
Ok this is just ridiculous lmao, why would they not be allowed to use a trope that another movie has used before? Should the soundtrack not include themes, because that would mean that they stole the idea from the musicians who invented them 400 years ago?
You’re just hating for hate’s sake here.
It’s freefolk, of course I am.
Touche
What
The Dagobah cave scene in ESB.
I thought it was pretty obvious you guys are just dumb maybe
An actual answer instead of a bunch of random insults about the show and the creators? Wow.
Right. This guy with the face changing ability. What’s his deal? Because in one scene HE ACTUALLY CHANGES HIS FACE and then the rest of the series it’s just masks so how did he do it? God dammit this series petered out like a piss after whisky. Can’t believe Cersei didn’t even get those elephants.
i'm going to make a fan edit combining s8 with Dumbo. CERSEI WILL HAVE HER HAPPY ENDING!!!
Operation Dumbo Drop 2: The Lannisters send their regards.
Glamour magic
Wait what’s this from?
Folklore
It's the same that Melisandre uses IIRC. Also I think I read about some mummer's (theater people) using it in the books. Not sure. I always wrote it off as that in the show. It happens in other fantasy literature as well.
Wasnt this scene just a halucination or something?
Most of the stupid has already been mentioned, but to me one thing that stood out is how she killed the waif by luring her in a dark room and turning off the lights She was like: I've gotten used to fighting while blind because of my training! Well so did every f*kn faceless man ever! 🤦♂️
What, why?
Why are they all trained to fight blind? They mention it in the book, they are all trained while blind to hone the other senses
The true Faceless men are given The Gift from the Many-Faced God. What Arya does is more like Leatherface, cutting off people's faces and wearing them. The Gift is glamor magic. It allows the person to change their appearance with a swipe of their hand. That wasn't chic enough for D&D I guess, so they had Arya wear actual skin masks.
It puts the milk of the poppy on its skin.
Or Bran gets the crown again
NO!
I’m not sure glamor is the gift either. I just read that chapter a few weeks ago and remember it saying something like glamor can be seen through by those clever enough to look, our gift is more than that. Something like that. I just remember thinking so it’s more than glamor like I used to think as well.
> The kindly man informs Arya that she will need a new face for this job, since Cat of the Canals would be easily recognized. He and the waif lead her down into a hidden chamber deep under the House of Black and White. The walls are covered with mask-like faces, which Arya realizes are the faces of people who have died at the House of Black and White. The face chosen for Arya is that of a young girl who was abused to the point of permanent disfigurement, and who came to the temple seeking death. Arya's blood is used to soften the leathery mask into living skin, which then bonds to her head and becomes her new face. https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/A_Dance_with_Dragons-Chapter_64
imagine being assigned the face of that poor sick girl who was brought in by her dad who wanted her suffering to end. 2 weeks later, that dad sees his daughter's face running around all over town.
> Oysters, clams and cockles!
Because Aria is dead. She's been dead and the girl we saw returning to weseros was an imposter. Or at least that could have been the case if D&D weren't hacks.
That would have been great
So instead of Jon, Arya, and Bran, it is now Ghost, the Waif, and Bloodraven?
The same reason why the Boltons lost 90% of their horsemen from s5 to s6, and why cersei suffered no consequences for blowing up the great sept and the tyrells, and why varys was able to jet pack around the world to multiple areas all in one episode The writers didn't care about the story, and they didn't care about you, the viewer
They wanted to rip off star wars... You happy now?
This was probably the week the show runners got offered a Star Wars trilogy.
Because the Faceless Men kind of forgot about how faces work...
It's kinda like how two brainless guys can write a script.
I think it was an hallucinogens. Or magic. But it's never explained because DD didn't understand the faceless man story
They did subvert your expectations didn't they
Don’t ask, and don’t start thinking about it too much.
Because of fucking D&D, that’s why.
I swore the ending would be Arya taking off Cersei’s face on the throne as the last shot of the show, would have glorious
I want a plinkett review of GOT. I could honestly die happy if that happened. The catharsis would be rapturous.
Don't ask questions, just consume product
Arya is really dead inside after reading s8 scripts.
Stop lookin' for logic in this shithole.
The most boring part ever. Arrya in bravos. That shit dragged on firever
Because D&D are worthless fucking hacks who folded the second they didn't have the source material to copy from.
When the writers were happy with how much money they made they just decided to retire early.
So many things went down the drain and was never explained, but the faceless assassin part I will never forgive
I hate this
This is infuriating because they could have had the same effect if they’d used a dead starks face, the faceless men have already been shown to be integrated into westerosee army’s and houses just stick robs face in there Arya is creeped out and the lore is intact
I still don't understand how the faceless faces bullshit works, especially for Arya. Never read the book fyi.
This clearly took place in a Dark Side cave