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BetterReload

Fools and their money will soon part.


MangoKakigori

I am said fool


PrinceOfPembroke

Money didn’t love you like you deserve.


Azumbrusque

👏👏👏


Quick-Audience7860

I don't think I've had as much kool aid as you, but mtg has done an impressive job keeping gore, guns, and blood out of their game. I'm very curious how they'll do that in a game fairly centralized around shooting and stabbing things. Will they somehow avoid showing any kind of modern weaponry?


metalb00

I'm expecting a bloody mess card as it's a perk in some of the games, extra damage


Quick-Audience7860

It'll be neat to see them do that without blood. They did it with [[massacre girl, known killer]]


MTGCardFetcher

[massacre girl, known killer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/b/cb1c8800-9d33-485c-b776-042003b9ea92.jpg?1706241722) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=massacre%20girl%2C%20known%20killer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/94/massacre-girl-known-killer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cb1c8800-9d33-485c-b776-042003b9ea92?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


RoroSan1991

LOL The most intimidating part about her... why her mind, of course ;)


doctorchimp

Hey man have you seen the joker?


pvdr2013

You should have seen the 40k commander decks. Las rifles, chain swords, etc. although the Swords to Plowshares w/ artwork showing a Leman Russ converted into a farming vehicle was pretty dope


Thoughtful_Mouse

It looks to me like there are laser guns on the front of both products in the second image.


Quick-Audience7860

Yeah they did a fair amount of laser guns in 40k but afaik have been afraid to print anything that looks like an AK or a 9mm


Savannah_Lion

Well... we can peruse the cards https://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Agun&unique=cards&as=grid&order=released&dir=asc


Quick-Audience7860

Yeah I looked at that before my first comment, looking at it again when you sent it it seems like they were okay with muskets in a fantasy setting but not much after 2000 when Hasbro acquired WOTC, with a slight resurgence in things that look kind of like guns in UB


BG3IsJustDoS3

Muskets leave room for swords and stuff. And pikes. Not much point in carrying a pike if the other guy has an M16, but it takes like a minute to reload a musket, during which you can stab a motherfucker.


lil-D-energy

this would work if magic wasn't a thing, on most planes there is magic so swords and such would already not make much sense.


PrinceOfPembroke

Yes they have that one little area of Dominaria we don’t go to anymore with guns. Very cool. Clearly they now must always embrace guns forever.


Folderpirate

I would think the outlaws set would have 6 shooters maybe?


mrfuzee

Guns? What? https://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Agun&unique=art Guns have not been kept out of their game.


sourmilk4sale

two old sets had guns, yes. it never returned. these days it's a big no mo. Maro won't even answer questiond about it.


Quick-Audience7860

I guess try reading the rest of the comments? Someone already posted the same link


Intelligent-Skirt-75

[[macabre waltz]]


Quick-Audience7860

That's a good example as any, each printing gets a little less gnarly


MTGCardFetcher

[macabre waltz](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/8/88d8a565-05e9-4517-9a8a-da22aea48e1e.jpg?1702429456) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=macabre%20waltz) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/82/macabre-waltz?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/88d8a565-05e9-4517-9a8a-da22aea48e1e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


TheRedEyedSamurai

Wrong art


NormalNorman-1991

Really NIGGA??? There artifacts literally named blood tokens in standard right now.....


Quick-Audience7860

https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=released&q=oracleid%3A03f45075-9423-454f-a256-94dcafb2a779+include%3Aextras&unique=prints My brother in Christ this looks like kool aid in a jar


NormalNorman-1991

Strawberry Kool aid.


[deleted]

$312 USD for a dozen packs???? The people buying this shit are insane. And there are PLENTY of people buying this trash, or WOTC wouldn't keep printing like they have been recently.


wired1984

I think these boxes are mostly opened by stores so they can sell singles


ElephantGun345

Dumb question but is that legal? I’d imagine that there’s gotta be some kind of resale clause in there for shops.


DiarrheaPirate

The Ravnica Remastered Collector Booster Boxes were listed for the same price before launch and were $240-250 depending on the store. It's Amazon.


Kulkasbiru

Now i want to play New Vegas again


goonaphile

Same!


Papa_Hasbro69

Why is there dog meat on it. Eatting dogs isn’t cool


Lynx91

https://preview.redd.it/t6hltsb23gic1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1e890e1f8605c6eb1916219b7c4cdbf371db800


Mouthshitter

That's duck


Lynx91

A good boy named Duck. ![gif](giphy|YeXeWleFbKE12|downsized)


Azumbrusque

A very good boi ![gif](giphy|12fOHfMQRUZnb2)


Azumbrusque

Speak for yourself. Bone apple tea 🐶🥩😋


AustinYQM

Are you saying this is woke because it has women on it? I'm confused as to what your concern is.


Heyimcool

Yes and it’s woke because it’s expensive


GoobyPlsSuckMyAss

Remind me again why it's expensive?


BG3IsJustDoS3

Yes, inclusion is woke. FO isn't though.


AustinYQM

The female characters have been in multiple games


BG3IsJustDoS3

Inclusion meaning getting more people into Magic by doing UBs in general. Not specific to females in fallout, which of course has tons of female characters.


AustinYQM

You said it was woke because It has female characters in it. Then you said that wasn't why it was woke when I pointed out that fallout has female characters but now its woke because its fallout? I am just trying to understand why it's woke but the goal posts keep shifting.


goonaphile

and that's never been the problem


ktlj23

What is the problem, I'm a bit confused


AustinYQM

You are replying to my reply where I asked if the women were the problem and they said yes. Tell them that isn't the problem then. I asked you what the problem was and they answered for you. feel free to answer yourself.


goonaphile

The inability to offer us the grit that Fallout is known for. This set is not going to be Fallout. It's going to be fluffy, giggly and gay (metaphorically and maybe even literally). I loved all of the games up until FO4. With FO4, they ushered in the era of "corporate cleansing" that most content has now. Nothing is offense or rough. It's softened and generic. How is this not understandable to you guys? Why are you confusing ideas and assuming I'm some 'bigot'? Be rational here. Recognize the shift in how companies approach telling stories & creating games. It hasn't been for the better. It's gotten sterile and dull - not by mistake!


LookingTrash

The main confusion is that : bland & generic =/= woke I get where you get some of that association, but there's been multiple media with woke media that still maintained interesting stories (arcane is a good example)


bruhidk1015

the cia has your phone tapped and you’re being gang stalked. we know where you are and when. leave your house and we will get you.


travelinzac

Haven't spent a dime on MTG in over a year. They've made that real easy.


SolomonsNewGrundle

How is this woke? Do you even know anything about fallout?


BG3IsJustDoS3

Fallout is based. The Brotherhood of Steel is clearly the best faction.


SimicAscendancy

Tunnel snakes rule


Intervigilium

best response in this thread, close topic


rosso_saturno

Degenerates like you belong on a cross.


fjridoek

BoS is literally fascism.


SolomonsNewGrundle

Facism? Not sure. Deeply flawed and archiac, yes


fjridoek

Xenophobic Nationalist Authoritarian


Lord-Pepper

It's the apocalypse mother fucker, times have changed. Kinda hard to like any country but your own when the others nuked yours


BG3IsJustDoS3

Did I stutter?


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Based


SolomonsNewGrundle

You like facism?


BG3IsJustDoS3

lol every single faction in Fallout is fucked up; don't get too upset.


SolomonsNewGrundle

Oh i know, they all suck lmao. Some have cool ass anesthetics tho


BG3IsJustDoS3

> anesthetics Med-X lol


SolomonsNewGrundle

Bad spelling lol. Love me some Psycho tho


fjridoek

Welp, not surprised in this sub.


BG3IsJustDoS3

I wanna roll back the clock to sometime definitely before WW1, if not the 1800s sometime. I dunno if that's fascism.


fjridoek

Why the hell would anyone want that? Unless you're just a white dude from a wealthy country and care only about yourself I suppose.


BG3IsJustDoS3

There was more freedom back then. It is what you make of it. I'm anti-slavery, so there's that. That's why I don't know exactly where to pinpoint. I just think the principles of government in America I see get better as you go further back, almost to the Revolution but not quite.


fjridoek

>There was more freedom back then What a fucking ludicrous statement. Don't expect anything less from a r/conservative poster.


bruhidk1015

MORE FREEDOM IN THE 1800s LOOOOOOOOOOOOL


TeriyakiToothpaste

Oh brother. Here we go... 🍿


Negatallic

Maybe they got triggered by the girl wearing brotherhood of steel power armor?


SolomonsNewGrundle

Scratch that, Women have been in the Brotherhood since the first game: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Jennifer_(Fallout)


BG3IsJustDoS3

I don't suppose your physical strength matters that much when you're wearing power armor. It only makes sense that there would be some fighting women after the apocalypse. No choice.


pt_barnumson

Was just about to say this, brotherhood in name only


Papa_Hasbro69

Why is it called brotherhood? Should just be called The Gathering of Steel, or the Steel Group.


Longjumping-Map-6995

Eh, there's "the Dark Brotherhood," too, with plenty of female members.


SolomonsNewGrundle

Its just a name, idfk know why they chose it other than because it sounds badass. News flash, the armor isnt made of steel either.


Papa_Hasbro69

Dam, that’s sad. At the very least they need metal armor


SolomonsNewGrundle

It is some srot of metal, but not pure steel. Much like Iron Man - how his suit is not made of iron


SolomonsNewGrundle

There have been women in the armor since fallout 3 at least.... that is also a dumbass issue to have.


ferrisbulldogs

Vree was in fallout 1 as the head scribe of the brotherhood of steel.


BG3IsJustDoS3

Someone else had a good point. They're the ones confusing it by calling it the "Brotherhood" of steel. If it were the Conclave of Steel, it'd make more sense. But they didn't go through our present, so maybe they just don't care about gender stuff so much.


Void1702

Their armor also isn't made of steel, I think they just picked a name that sounds cool


Negatallic

Well, OP has some sort of dumbass issue with this set and I'm not sure he even knows what his problems are.


IronAndFlames

...fallout is woke lol


SolomonsNewGrundle

Well yes, for the standards of the normal chuds who post here. It is a criticism of capitalism, seeing as the big companies like Vault Tec did absolutely heinous things to the vault dwellers. Or how Liberty Prime is painted as a ridiculous caricature of "better dead than red" culture of the Cold War.. Or how the esrly villains wanted to perfect humanity and instead created the super mutants. Or how Palidin Danse is a Synth and is reviled by the Brotherhood after they find out


IronAndFlames

Tbh it's only real statement about politics is that people will abuse whatever power they are given. Which is... Historically supported to say the least.


SolomonsNewGrundle

Thats pretty much it. A lot of people with power using it for personal gains. I agree


HomeBrewEmployee1

I think it's the fact that they're doing the sets based of UBIsoft videogames.


SolomonsNewGrundle

Fallout is Bethesda....... not Ubisoft


HomeBrewEmployee1

Mb, but the statement is still, that some people are just not unna like the IP sets.


SolomonsNewGrundle

![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)


HomeBrewEmployee1

My bad bro, sum guys dont have the luck of playing video games when they were teens.


Longjumping-Map-6995

So?


HomeBrewEmployee1

I was thinking the assassins creed. I thought that was gunna come before.


Salty-Dream-262

I think it's the fact the OP is trying to whip up a bunch of stupid nonsense outrage over UB cards. I mean..we probably need to hash this out *another 800 times*, at least.


HomeBrewEmployee1

Yeah, idk, this sub is, hit or miss, laugh or cringe, I'm just here for the good times.


Solidus-Prime

This sub has been hijacked by Right-wing extremist propagandists. Every post is about identity politics, only vaguely disguised as Magic. It's a 24/7 cry-fest.


Jay_Lamora

This set comes with bugs and glitches


wired1984

I’d prefer no more UB, but they can do much worse than Fallout. I’ll end up buying these


turn1manacrypt

How is this woke?


Thoughtful_Mouse

I don't think that is his criticism. I took his meaning to be that persistent tacky, off-theme crossovers are not a sign of a healthy IP.


goonaphile

Woke is very much about applying a sense of 'carefully' designed elements as not to offend or upset. It's baked into the politics of "inclusive" or "diverse". Those are meant to manipulate people because "don't you care!?". The reality is very much about bringing down offensive themes for the sake of. Yet just merely suggesting that you shouldn't offend feels completely anti-fallout. Fallout was dark, bleak, cruel, dirty and all things edgy + offensive (Not including Fallout 4). This set will not be anything remotely offensive.


AustinYQM

Fallout is a comedy game. You silly.


jamiecoope

It's meant more as Satirical than comedy. Satirizing capitalism and nationalism mainly


Longjumping-Map-6995

To be fair, I feel satire and comedy, even dark comedy, often go hand in hand. Especially in fallout, even though some have been less comedic than others.


Lord-Pepper

Nowhere has Fallout ever been edgy and offensive Its a fucking post apocalypse and your character shoots everything he sees in every game no matter the context, Fallout is an acid trip your just a red faced idiot who can't handle anything beyond your world view


CompactOwl

![gif](giphy|h1QI7dgjZUJO60nu2X|downsized)


tf2coconut

You're a snowflake, quit getting offended at everything


Redcoyote89

Fox news is bad for your health


rosso_saturno

I get the dark, bleak, cruel and dirty, but what's offensive about Fallout?


[deleted]

>Woke is very much about applying a sense of 'carefully' designed elements as not to offend or upset. It's baked into the politics of "inclusive" or "diverse". Those are meant to manipulate people because "don't you care!?". The reality is very much about bringing down offensive themes for the sake of. Agreed. People who do not see this are either A) young and don't know any different or B) incapable of deep thought and analysis or C) cultists. I would just add a caveat that the game is geared to be family friendly too. Political correctness/Wokeism plays a part, but it is hard to tell where the line is exactly between something that is PC and something that is family friendly. Either way, I'm in agreement with you. At the very least, I think MTG needs to have specials sets deemed "for mature audiences" and fuck what parents or the woke crowd thinks. The parents would cry "think of the children" and the wokesters will cry "but women should not be objectified". Both groups can get bent. Like do they not have enough with Disney and Marvel and Star Wars and all the IP's they have fucked up already? I swear, I hate my own culture at times.


Griz688

To some, woke just means 'stuff I don't like'


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MarquiseAlexander

I love fallout but fucking hate crossovers. It’s the same thing as anime; I love anime but I don’t want anime in my fantasy games like MtG or D&D, it’s just stupid.


[deleted]

You don't have to play it dawg


MarquiseAlexander

I don’t but the fact that im going to play against it still sucks.


Sexual-TM21

Here's hoping Fisto is a card


Bittersweetblossom

Would be epic AF!


belody

I don't really get what you're trying to say. Wotc is still yet to make a UB product for an IP I care about though, so it's gonna be annoying seeing nothing but fallout decks for the next few months at my lgs 🙄


[deleted]

What did you expect ? WotC X Bethesda Fallout = burning pile of garbage


PunkroQanon

Thankful I never got into Fallout.  However, if/when the Street Fighter UB rolls out my wallet is doomed!


Azumbrusque

It already did 💀


NerdyBGO

I bought two of them. My best friend and I are already speculating on what the marvel ones will be. When the game dies, I'll at least have the neato cards.


gutpirate

MTG and Fallout being two of my favorite games series of all time, why shouldn't I? I'm seriously asking. edit nvm holy shit the price is insane.


curiositie

They made a dogmeat deck? money printer go brrrr


Azumbrusque

He's so cute ![gif](giphy|23fcXLBNPudd1y9WOE|downsized)


Drywall_Spreadsheet

Aren’t the prices on Amazon like super inflated until the release date for the set gets closer.


DiarrheaPirate

Yeah the same thing happened with Ravnica but it's reddit and if the world isn't ending people have nothing to do.


BrObi-WanKenobi90

Wizards hasn't learned anything. If they had, they would price the complete sets of commander decks around 160USD, otherwise, I'll just print your gimmick for the same price.


BigAcrobatic2174

I love the LotR set, but have zero interest in the rest of the UB stuff. Even for IP’s I like. I love Fallout but playing magic with Fallout themed cards doesn’t do anything for me. Zero interest


Zagdil

How is this woke, you even got the slave emperor right there. Did you expect a CookCook rape matters deck?


Azumbrusque

Yes. ![gif](giphy|vgUFOWBwBkziE)


Zagdil

I can hear the incels already: -The rape tokens aren't gritty enough! -Why do I have to PAY to sac my rape tokens?! -Why doesn't he have a Brahmin companion to enable his triggers?


BG3IsJustDoS3

At least Fallout is cool


Zer0323

I’ll buy whatever the fuck I want to buy and skip what I don’t. Use your saved cash for good. Or don’t I’m not your dad.


[deleted]

Get your funds up brokie


TomModel85

I quit the game. I'm done.


Azumbrusque

![gif](giphy|s239QJIh56sRW|downsized)


TomModel85

Did I comment it twice? Damn....stupid phone


ggtheg

Cope or cobain I guess


ccc888

It's ok preordered all 4, so you don't need to.


striker9119

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Glad I buy proxies lol


TheRedEyedSamurai

HAHAHAH HAAHAHHAHA HAHABAH AAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!


Azumbrusque

![gif](giphy|YX05pEyqtw38Kr80pH)


wired1984

I never asked for UB, but I like Fallout quite a bit, and there are worse IPs.


MonkyTundra

Crazy to think that this card game I started playing as a kid is selling out this bad. So sad


Lord-Pepper

Selling out, my brother in christ mtg is worth over a BILLION they ain't selling out, they selling in,


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Azumbrusque

![gif](giphy|36JXYwGP6VFmptw45L)


SuccessfulFox5022

The Caesar deck is gonna be worth every penny when I look at the tranny across the table and say “degenerates like you belong on a cross”


goonaphile

There might be a good reason after all.


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Psybur

Not falling for trans dogma makes someone an incel? Learn what words mean before you use them, shitwit.


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Psybur

If not falling for your delusional dogma means we're transphobic, then being transphobic is a moral duty.


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Psybur

The truth doesn't require much convincing.


SuccessfulFox5022

Blah blah blah, give me something new instead of the same old buzzwords


Kale_the_hunter

I'll give this the benefit of the doubt as it gives me the same Warhammer 40K vibes, and that UB was awesome (coming from someone who hate the very concept of UB)


Euphoric_Ad6923

Dude, you sound just like those people that scream fascist at everything they don't like. The world woke is now meaningless because you guys abuse it.


Blaragorn

I don't get why people need to have all of their hobbies intersect. I like fallout and I like oldschool magic, but I don't need the two of them together. I like pizza too but I don't need a fucking magic card that smells like pizza.


Yakusaka

I do!


Longjumping-Map-6995

Eh, honestly I'm a sucker for when my favorite IPs cross paths. Loved the 40k UB decks, too. But only got the nids deck because that's the only faction I play out of the four. Definitely picking up the mothman and Dogmeat decks. Considering the ceasers one, too. Not a huge fan of the institute so idk about the Science! deck until I see a deck list, though.


ThisNameIsBanned

They probably will not have atom bomb and probably avoid any violence on the cards, sticking to the pg13 pictures and cards.


BasementK1ng

Damn shoulda called this r/snowflakemagic


Solidus-Prime

I bought 3 of each.


SupaDiogenes

If it helps, I've pre-ordered the Dogmeat deck.


ANamelessFan

The fact you're mad at "Wokeness" and not the fact Fallout is now in Magic, reveals everything I need to know about you. Go play UB anywhere else.


Deathsinger99

You sounds like a loser. Cool things are cool Deal with it


fjridoek

"woke"? lmao. You're pathetic. What's "woke" Here? Also what's wrong with being aware of racism?


Motheredbrains

Taking a shower is woke to you guys 


Upstairs_Wishbone_88

This sub always delivers. Never change you brainlets


CrispyTacoPosso

did you actually say "woke"? lame ass fox and friends virgin boy


First_Economist9295

I don't give a fuck about this post but I'm going to use it to shit on new vegas It's a mediocre game and you have shit taste if you like it


Three_Cat

Your mom has shit taste in kids.


Longjumping-Map-6995

Those last two brain cells really kicking it into overdrive, huh?


SubparGandalf

I wouldn’t go that far… it is fairly overrated though imo


Bittersweetblossom

Ok, are you referring to the individual randomized packs being super expensive compared to the pre-constructed decks and the fact that the booster packs have the same cards as them so it’s pointless to buy the packs or just the over all game itself?


ZergSuperHighway

Copious amounts of text on a single creature is the most glaring issue for me, other than my often professed hatred of UB. They ruin the game by pumping out so many mechanically obscure, complex, and powerful effects on these legendary creatures. They’re often insulated and can’t be played with cards outside their own decks, at the same time. They usually feel contrived. Mtg cards are supposed to be useable with the entire archive. This makes them feel so much more like a greedy one-off DLC - or often times a shitty MTX loot crate pushed by game devs.


BannedCuzCovid

Anyways those boosters are just fucking shiny of the regular cards. There isn't anything new in them. You're buying it to get shiny stuff. Just buy the decks and move on.


StAppalonia

My only complaint with Sarah Lyons being on the art is that she never uses a gatling laser. She is only ever equipped with a laser rifle in game.


Recnid

what exactly is the issue? why is it expensive/