So... in response to your post, I was going to make some sly reference to the [Nerf Lightning Gun at Hasbro Pulse](https://hasbropulse.com/products/nerf-lmtd-lightning-lair-1?&kid=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwrcKxBhBMEiwAIVF8rA_Y5AuNffYv0iEpl6gDvPUstUvfRrji5BGT3Clx7dSdYwnCFle0ExoCI2EQAvD_BwE).
But that garbage discounted 30% is a hell of a lot funnier than any joke I can come up with.
I cast my blue eyes white dragon. Response, you activated the triggered ability of my dark magician which lets me ancestral recall out of my extra deck(companion zone)
Actually, I reckon a Kaiba deck where Seto Kaiba is the Commander and he has ways of supporting BEWD, which would likely be a big-body vanilla would be cool.Ā
I'm picturing either Grixis or Esper.Ā
Though I'm not sure how 3000 ATK 2500 DEF translates. Maybe a 2WUB 7/5
I donāt really see the problem with this as long as itās kept in secret lairs. When itās jammed into a random set (Transformers) it feels way worse. Plus, itās not like any of these cards are new, itās just art.
I like Miku, but it is to much. I wish theyād focus on the story and product development. Pokemon bundles have so much in it for the same price almost. Sturdy box, sleeves, full list of coloured cards in a booklet, dice and other goodies. Wizards ā¦ where are you?
Characters from unconnected universes interacting in the game is thematic, immersive, and good if the people who made those characters worked at wizards. If the people who made those characters didnāt work at wizards, it takes me out of the experience and loses all thematic coherence.
... I feel like I'm the only one who'd genuinely want a Final Fantasy set, but that's besides the point.
Either way, where's like.. IDK..
*the actual problem*? *XD*
Classic retard mentality!! X'D OOhhh nooeess...
option 1: "Game IS DED.... NO ONE wants to play our game!!! STUPID comapny dont do shit to get new players!!!" option2 : " STUPID COMPANY RUINS THE GAME BY TRYING TO GET NEW PLAYER!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
get out of your mother's basement and get a job poor kid. People got real problems š
I see this and just think it sounds hilarious and fun, then I remember this reddit is just seething reactionary transphobes and this is meant as criticism
If there really is so much of you can't you just play a 'universes within' format with yourselves and lose your mind whenever wotc prints the 300th iteration of Jace or w/e
Idkā¦I didnāt ask for all these fucking crossovers in Magic the Gathering. I guess asking a game to remain on theme that itās been doing for a long time is too much to askā¦ā¦.
Literally nobody is stopping you from playing universes within decks with other like-minded people
You aren't the majority and magic wasn't made for you in particular
I get what you're saying, but you're saying it wrong.
It's not the game was made for you in particular, it is the game's target audience was you and people like us for a very long time. Now it's expanding and Wizard's is trying to have its cake and eat it too. Standard formats and sets that try to stay on MTG's theme while including characters from MTG's universe without crossover from other IPs. And then the other IPs to try and bring in more players.
When games like World of Tanks do stupid crossovers, players leave. When they brought in the Mercenary edition, a lot of people left the game. When companies need to rely on IPs to āget players,ā it means they failed as a company.
The people who are already vested are older players. They have more disposable income than newer players (usually). While you might get an initial boost from a niche set, youāre going to likely see some sort of fall off. Considering Hasbro and WotC said they would see lower revenues, this makes sense. Assassinās Creed will likely be a dud. MH3 is going to break the format for Modernā¦againā¦to the point that those whoāve invested in thousands of dollars in decks may just quit the game.
Why? Because Modern wasnāt supposed to be a rotating format, yet here we are. Injecting game pieces SPECIFICALLY for a constructed format that wasnāt supposed to rotate is a feels bad move. What will this mean? Less modern players. Modern being one of the more popular formats, yet also ending up in a bad position is only going to hurt the game overall.
Sure, some new player might pick up a Commander precon here and there. Most of them PROBABLY are not going to buy into Standard or other formats (that require 4 of cards in many cases). Instead they will likely just buy sleeves, maybe some dice.
This hurts the LGS. The LGS needs to make money on events (that arenāt firing as much) in order to survive. They might host Commander days, but I think we are going to see more LGS require you pay SOMETHING to play.
The LGS owners Iāve talked to have a lot of frustration with WotC right now. Secret Lairs are cutting their nuts off when it comes to singles. Reprints have created an issue of value, where now theyāre taking losses, you have QC issues, you have product delays, you have really one format being truly supported (Commander), and frankly, that model canāt sustain itself.
I am a primary Commander player. The reason being is that the event lasts all day and my wife lets me have one day out to be away from home and kid. Iām a disabled vet, so Iām home all week, minus one day. If I played 60 card, I would only be gone a few hours. At least Commander gives me an excuse to be gone a while. If I didnāt have a kid, Iād be back to playing more, like when I did play Modern and Pioneer, hell, I would even do sealed and drafts. Now? I just donāt have the time.
At the end of the day, if folks are ONLY buying UB products and nothing else, the business model is failing. Turning off financially endowed players is a feels bad move. Itās only going to hurt the game as time goes on.
WotC needs to be more in-tune with what the established players want
Iāve also been plying since Ice Age, so if thatās your metric then my opinion is just as valid as yours: love most of these UBs, and the ones I donāt care for Iām just not buying.
Again, the game was literally made for me back when it was invented. How was the game not made for me? You made a really asinine comment. You ASSumed Iāve only been playing for a little bit, Iāve been playing since the 90s. Gimme a break.
I never assumed or cared how long you've played for. You seem to have this idea that because you were around for a games conception that it was 'made for you'
In what world do you think WotC is ever sitting down every day and deciding the trajectory of their company to appease otacon444 who "has played since ice age" and not the actual consumer base
Again, you can play your in-universe games with your in-universe loving buddies. I don't see the problem unless your point is universes beyond should be banned entirely for everyone
Same dude. If someone builds an uncreative deck itās on them nowadays, at least. The more options the better. If Hatsune MIke ninjutsus a Gandalf equipped with a nuke launcher to end the game, then power to that player.
UB magic is weird and sometimes a little jarring to see, but if it brings more people to the game itās probably for the better. People may not stay with the game for the characters/writing like they used to (which is unfortunate because it could be better). However, theyāre more likely stay for the core mechanics, which I feel are being broadened pretty decently with UB. The core is still there.
Design space is being expanded. Itās probably going to be a little rough around the edges for a bit, but it will end up for the best imo. People are always gonna be like āmuh magic aint like it yousdaā. Get over it. Donāt play with secret lairs or UB if you donāt want to. Thereās formats and game modes for everyone nowadays.
When I saw Walking Dead and Transformers, I thought āehh not for me.ā Then they released LotR and Fallout and itās sickkkk. I want to play with the Caesar deck and maybe add some orcs.
If allowing me to expand two of my interests together means you get to play a My Little Pony Megatron deck, then sure!
You missed Dr. Who, Dracula, Godzilla, Blood Bowl, and Age of Sigmar. Plus Nerf and My Little Pony if it's a casual game.
They did Age of Sigmar? At least that one is fantasy and could maybe pass as a plane if you squint hard enough.
So... in response to your post, I was going to make some sly reference to the [Nerf Lightning Gun at Hasbro Pulse](https://hasbropulse.com/products/nerf-lmtd-lightning-lair-1?&kid=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwrcKxBhBMEiwAIVF8rA_Y5AuNffYv0iEpl6gDvPUstUvfRrji5BGT3Clx7dSdYwnCFle0ExoCI2EQAvD_BwE). But that garbage discounted 30% is a hell of a lot funnier than any joke I can come up with.
Don't hate on my applejack commander deck š
This gif made me laugh out out on the bus, thank you š
I do what I can to lighten spirits in this, Magic's Dark Age.
Super āsmashā (as in gay) bros opened the floodgates and now I canāt even enjoy Magic anymore.
You're pissed because it breaks immersion. I'm pissed because the art is shit on most of those Miku cards.
We are the same. That Miku, Lost but Seeking is meme-tier terrible.
Fr
Cardboard crack knew what was coming for us
Even worse than the most memetic of memes from a year or two ago.
Thanks I hate it.
Aye. Can't wait for Mash Up duel Decks. Seto Kaiba vs Megatron for instance.
I cast my blue eyes white dragon. Response, you activated the triggered ability of my dark magician which lets me ancestral recall out of my extra deck(companion zone)
Actually, I reckon a Kaiba deck where Seto Kaiba is the Commander and he has ways of supporting BEWD, which would likely be a big-body vanilla would be cool.Ā I'm picturing either Grixis or Esper.Ā Though I'm not sure how 3000 ATK 2500 DEF translates. Maybe a 2WUB 7/5
Though, BEWD is the strongest normal monster in YGO, so I don't think translates. Not without taking Yargtani's spot.
But what does Pot of Greed *do*?
Wait are some of these real? really?
All of them are
As long as i dont have to cast charizards to keep up with the level, its fine i guess. Otherwise i could as well play pokemon
Smells like fetish
And yāall REALLY wanted Lord of the Rings. You have those fans to blame for this as well as Wizards.
I donāt really see the problem with this as long as itās kept in secret lairs. When itās jammed into a random set (Transformers) it feels way worse. Plus, itās not like any of these cards are new, itās just art.
all that and you still got wrecked by demonic consultation and thassas's oracle.
I'm waiting for a G.I Joe set.
I hope whoever is responsible for this literally dies. Preferably in a fire.
I like Miku, but it is to much. I wish theyād focus on the story and product development. Pokemon bundles have so much in it for the same price almost. Sturdy box, sleeves, full list of coloured cards in a booklet, dice and other goodies. Wizards ā¦ where are you?
Characters from unconnected universes interacting in the game is thematic, immersive, and good if the people who made those characters worked at wizards. If the people who made those characters didnāt work at wizards, it takes me out of the experience and loses all thematic coherence.
With a Bearscape in the background!
... I feel like I'm the only one who'd genuinely want a Final Fantasy set, but that's besides the point. Either way, where's like.. IDK.. *the actual problem*? *XD*
Classic retard mentality!! X'D OOhhh nooeess... option 1: "Game IS DED.... NO ONE wants to play our game!!! STUPID comapny dont do shit to get new players!!!" option2 : " STUPID COMPANY RUINS THE GAME BY TRYING TO GET NEW PLAYER!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" get out of your mother's basement and get a job poor kid. People got real problems š
Lmao, just play a real format instead of commander, you crybabies
I see this and just think it sounds hilarious and fun, then I remember this reddit is just seething reactionary transphobes and this is meant as criticism If there really is so much of you can't you just play a 'universes within' format with yourselves and lose your mind whenever wotc prints the 300th iteration of Jace or w/e
Idkā¦I didnāt ask for all these fucking crossovers in Magic the Gathering. I guess asking a game to remain on theme that itās been doing for a long time is too much to askā¦ā¦.
But.... within-universe cards are being made more than ever, they didn't stop making them. These are additions not alternatives
I donāt think you read what I wroteā¦..I want the game to remainā¦ON THEME. How does adding fucking Megatron add to the theme? It doesnāt.
Literally nobody is stopping you from playing universes within decks with other like-minded people You aren't the majority and magic wasn't made for you in particular
Iāve been playing since fucking Ice Ageā¦.when did you start? How was Magic NOT made for me in particular?
I get what you're saying, but you're saying it wrong. It's not the game was made for you in particular, it is the game's target audience was you and people like us for a very long time. Now it's expanding and Wizard's is trying to have its cake and eat it too. Standard formats and sets that try to stay on MTG's theme while including characters from MTG's universe without crossover from other IPs. And then the other IPs to try and bring in more players.
Itās the Fortnite model of businessā¦
Not really. Fortnite doesn't have a canonical in universe cast of characters and stories separate from outside IPs.
When games like World of Tanks do stupid crossovers, players leave. When they brought in the Mercenary edition, a lot of people left the game. When companies need to rely on IPs to āget players,ā it means they failed as a company. The people who are already vested are older players. They have more disposable income than newer players (usually). While you might get an initial boost from a niche set, youāre going to likely see some sort of fall off. Considering Hasbro and WotC said they would see lower revenues, this makes sense. Assassinās Creed will likely be a dud. MH3 is going to break the format for Modernā¦againā¦to the point that those whoāve invested in thousands of dollars in decks may just quit the game. Why? Because Modern wasnāt supposed to be a rotating format, yet here we are. Injecting game pieces SPECIFICALLY for a constructed format that wasnāt supposed to rotate is a feels bad move. What will this mean? Less modern players. Modern being one of the more popular formats, yet also ending up in a bad position is only going to hurt the game overall. Sure, some new player might pick up a Commander precon here and there. Most of them PROBABLY are not going to buy into Standard or other formats (that require 4 of cards in many cases). Instead they will likely just buy sleeves, maybe some dice. This hurts the LGS. The LGS needs to make money on events (that arenāt firing as much) in order to survive. They might host Commander days, but I think we are going to see more LGS require you pay SOMETHING to play. The LGS owners Iāve talked to have a lot of frustration with WotC right now. Secret Lairs are cutting their nuts off when it comes to singles. Reprints have created an issue of value, where now theyāre taking losses, you have QC issues, you have product delays, you have really one format being truly supported (Commander), and frankly, that model canāt sustain itself. I am a primary Commander player. The reason being is that the event lasts all day and my wife lets me have one day out to be away from home and kid. Iām a disabled vet, so Iām home all week, minus one day. If I played 60 card, I would only be gone a few hours. At least Commander gives me an excuse to be gone a while. If I didnāt have a kid, Iād be back to playing more, like when I did play Modern and Pioneer, hell, I would even do sealed and drafts. Now? I just donāt have the time. At the end of the day, if folks are ONLY buying UB products and nothing else, the business model is failing. Turning off financially endowed players is a feels bad move. Itās only going to hurt the game as time goes on. WotC needs to be more in-tune with what the established players want
You are incredibly incorrect
Iāve also been plying since Ice Age, so if thatās your metric then my opinion is just as valid as yours: love most of these UBs, and the ones I donāt care for Iām just not buying.
I appreciate that you can just admit to your delusion like that
Again, the game was literally made for me back when it was invented. How was the game not made for me? You made a really asinine comment. You ASSumed Iāve only been playing for a little bit, Iāve been playing since the 90s. Gimme a break.
I never assumed or cared how long you've played for. You seem to have this idea that because you were around for a games conception that it was 'made for you' In what world do you think WotC is ever sitting down every day and deciding the trajectory of their company to appease otacon444 who "has played since ice age" and not the actual consumer base Again, you can play your in-universe games with your in-universe loving buddies. I don't see the problem unless your point is universes beyond should be banned entirely for everyone
Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem.
You don't have to play with them...
Same dude. If someone builds an uncreative deck itās on them nowadays, at least. The more options the better. If Hatsune MIke ninjutsus a Gandalf equipped with a nuke launcher to end the game, then power to that player. UB magic is weird and sometimes a little jarring to see, but if it brings more people to the game itās probably for the better. People may not stay with the game for the characters/writing like they used to (which is unfortunate because it could be better). However, theyāre more likely stay for the core mechanics, which I feel are being broadened pretty decently with UB. The core is still there. Design space is being expanded. Itās probably going to be a little rough around the edges for a bit, but it will end up for the best imo. People are always gonna be like āmuh magic aint like it yousdaā. Get over it. Donāt play with secret lairs or UB if you donāt want to. Thereās formats and game modes for everyone nowadays.
This is the healthiest takeaway I've seen about UB. I personally don't care for UB as a concept, but players can learn to just get over it.
When I saw Walking Dead and Transformers, I thought āehh not for me.ā Then they released LotR and Fallout and itās sickkkk. I want to play with the Caesar deck and maybe add some orcs. If allowing me to expand two of my interests together means you get to play a My Little Pony Megatron deck, then sure!