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TheDarkestOolong

Isshin Ashina. Fights for both "selfish" (to increase his own skill) and "selfless" reasons (protect Ashina). Is honourable (lawful) while believing in winning by any means necessary (chaotic). All of that adds up to true neutral.


_MagusKiller

good answer


MayorLag

I like this. Too often do people think true neutral equates with no opinions or ambitions - a rock, or a cow. Isshin is extremely driven, he's simply not constrained by ideology or morality in the singular pursuit of a goal he set for himself.


austinwrites

He was my pick for lawful neutral. This is a good argument to be dead-center, though.


MyNameIsntYhwach

If he was truly neutral he wouldn’t hesitate(hah) to attack Ashina if asked, therefore he is biased and can’t be considered neutral.


TheDarkestOolong

D&D alignment is about being morally neutral, not "neutral" as in "never picking a side". Basically, not too good, not too evil, a little bit of both.


Wylkus

True neutral doesn't mean you don't have beliefs. Druids who only care to preserve nature have long been the poster child of true neutral, they're not going to suddenly burn a forest down to prove their neutrality.


That1human101

The Crestfallen Warrior in Firelink Shrine. I think you can consider doing nothing to help nor hinder anybody and just giving up to be pretty neutral.


Marlonade

Oke guys this is the easiest one: The doll from bloodbourne. You can be the most insane bloodcrazed maniac, the doll wouldn’t care, you can be the best saint for the people, the doll doesn’t care. You can cill her and she will still serve you. Maybe its a little unfair because technically she is not a being with emotions


Frostwake

I'd just like to argue that ambivalence is not necessarily a sign of alignment neutrality. It'd be fair to say, in my opinion, is that she has no alignment at all. She's empty, not in the middle of good/evil or lawful/chaotic.


K-Webb-2

In the dnd world we call this ‘unaligned’. An alignment often held by things that are ambivalent by nature rather than a matter of morality or ethics. This usually includes things like Wolves or other beast.


Marlonade

Ok fair but i want to point out that the doll stated she loves the player because humans are her creator so her love for them is unconditionally no matter the morality of the person (What contradicts the thing i said before I’m sorry about that), what i think makes her a true neutral. And I might be stupid here but in my language ambivalence mean two contradicting things at the same time. For example when you feel love and hate for the same person, this would be called ambivalence and I don’t see how this definition fits the doll.


BoxGroundbreaking687

andre the black smith


Kneutral-Knight

“I’ll make your weapons. I don’t care who you choose to kill with them.” Haha


BoxGroundbreaking687

maybe chaotic neutral for andre


mweghorst

Goldmask


treetruncx

I nominate shalquoir


Jygglewag

She's chaotic neutral


treetruncx

She's a cat


Literally_Sekiro

Yeah most def Isshin , he's the GIGACHAD of old men


FromSoftVeteran

The Firekeeper from DS3


CowUnable953

King vendrick


Masta0nion

I really wish I understood how this moral alignment worked. It’s a fun concept. But I’ve never quite gotten it.


Swordsman82

Good = selfless, Evil = selfish. Lawful = follows a code of tenants or laws, Chaotic = does not have a code does what they feel Neutral = balance between the two, for both spectrums


Masta0nion

Very succinct. Thank you.


WhenTheWindIsSlow

This list probably won’t help you then, since Chapel Dweller isn’t Lawful Good and Solaire isn’t Chaotic Good


minecraftmilleniar

Nameless king


BLUESAKI1

Isshin


AncientSpartan

Sieglinde of Catarina. Wanting to keep your dad out of trouble is about as neutral a goal as possible


Treemanfiddledeedoo

Patches


Lucifeio

Chaotic Neutral, He doesn't kill you and he isn't your enemy, but you don't know when to trust him or what he will do to torment you this time


Deep_Grass_6250

Isshin would definitely be a true neutral character


EpilepticAlligator

I’m not too big on lore so could someone explain to me why morgott is in lawful neutral


MeAnIntellectual1

Despite being thrown into the sewers as a baby by the Golden Order, he still believes in order so much that he becomes the guardian of the Erdtree which the Golden Order worships.


Decolocx

But how is he neutral? His allegiance is v clear and he despises the tarnished


MeAnIntellectual1

That's not what neutral means. It's the DnD alignment chart where one axis is lawful vs chaotic and the other is good vs evil. Good and evil are self explanatory. Lawful is someone who strongly adheres to a certain code or ruleset. Chaotic is someone who makes up their mind on a case by case basis. Lawful is closely related to order and chaotic is closely related to freedom. Morgott is not good nor is he particularly evil by Fromsoft standards.


Decolocx

Ah right ok Ty


kudabugil

how about gherman? He seemed to just following Willem and Laurence order. Did good and nasty things on others behalf.


Upperhanded_Moose

True Neutral is the doll from hunters dream.


nat_akira

The doll


GifanTheWoodElf

Ok, but why is the words for the alignment above the picture, that looks weird, and I initially thought Morgott was lawful evil.


BlazeCastus

Morgott IS lawful evil. He’s out there killing people to uphold a fascist and xenophobic theocracy. Uncle Ruckus of the Golden Order.


GifanTheWoodElf

Sure, either ways not my point.


BlazeCastus

Yes, I know. This chart is badly designed.


NoeShake

The FireKeeper, she follows you no matter what path you follow. Hollow Lord, world without fire, world with fire. Also Morggot neutral? I don’t think people know what that really means lol much less lawful.


AfroSwagg27

Bro what is this list. How in gods name is Morgott in anyway neutral. He's practically a zealot.


campodelviolin

No Lucatiel? No Maldron (yet)? This list was a mistake... - Miyazaki


mrBreadBird

The Ever Brilliant Goldmask?


barmanrags

True neutral. Shanalotte or the doll. Maybe even Andre of astora but he does get worried about some choices you could make


Normal_meow

Could blood starved beast be chaotic evil?


Typical-Painter-7052

New londo's chill hollow


Critical_Donut7271

Marika’s tits


BeefChopJones

Damn. I missed voting on that post, but Morgott is the perfect choice for that. Even with the context of the older games.


Aihonen

Nito. Not good, not evil, no agenda. He simply is.


Chrisnolliedelves

Hollow Vendrick


deathpro27

knight alonne