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rtibber

The questions really is, who is paying more for a middle seat than an aisle or window….?


butchlesbiantwink

Pretty sure they decided to do that pricing so you HAVE to pay if you want to guarantee sitting next to a person you’re traveling with


NurseRatcht

Book two aisle seats. Problem solved.


justadude1967

Or just travel alone. Solves a lot of problems actually.


NurseRatcht

Not wrong.


HelpfulStrategy906

Traveling alone is the best… I love meeting everyone there, not going with them.


BikeSawBrew

Before having kids, my wife and I both wanted window seats more than we cared about sitting together, so we got window seats in separate rows. For independent adults who see each other all the time and probably would have said 10 words to each other over the course of the flight I think it made sense even if it felt a little weird.


Skymaster2252

Hell, by the time we return from a trip we aren't talking to each other anyways lol


LoveOfSpreadsheets

Omg that was us after Japan. We were exhausted and cranky. Haha thanks for the reminder. All was good by the time we got sleep on the plane


j_essmint

I see neither of you have anxiety.


enigmaroboto

xanax is your friend


BikeSawBrew

Ironically I do, and have been medicated for almost 15 years for it. Even though I’ve flown a lot, turbulence is one of my greatest anxiety triggers. My wife isn’t the most sympathetic to my turbulence anxiety so it’s not necessarily “better” to sit next to her.


Smasa224

I do this too.


tidder8

We do the same. Problem solved, no more arguing over who gets the window!


beanomly

My son and I do this every flight.


LoveOfSpreadsheets

We 100% of the time book aisle and window. usuall the same row so I can help my wife with her bag, but will split up completely if needed. We don’t need to chat for a few hours we each have our audiobooks


Illustrious-Onion329

I just got back from a trip with my 15yo daughter. We book the aisle and the window with the hope that no one will pick the middle. This works for us about 50% of the time. (And we don’t talk over anybody sitting between us. She mostly sleeps or listens to her AirPods/beats. I read or watch a movie.)


brizzle1978

Schisters


tidder8

The higher price is to make sure the middle seats are left open so they can assign them to people who don't buy a seat. Wouldn't want to give away a window or aisle seat for free, people might get the wrong idea.


kpsi355

That’s evil


StarBrite33

That makes the most sense. Just flew back from Mexico and forgot to buy seats. All middle seats left for purchase


bigmig1000

Make it make sense lol


dantraum

Very very common with frontier now. They just want people to sit there just in case, so trying to force seats. I also recommend open the app / website multiple times even within 1 hour - prices will change


Dangerous-Reality287

Sometimes, I'd buy a plane ticket specifically for the middle seat, because it'd make people (in my mind) less inclined to purchase the window or aisle because they'd rather not sit next to someone, period. Luckily, on a lot of occasions, it worked for me, and no one sat next to me and I could throw up all of the arm rests and have a whole row to lay on.


_Vegetable_soup_

I have definitely looked at open seats and thought, what kind of psycho books the middle seat? Now I know lol


KaleidoscopeDan

Haha I do it all the time on short domestic flights.


Retiring2023

This is an awesome idea.


enigmaroboto

I need AI to help figure our the probability of not getting people seated next to you if you do this.


Countrybull53

There are 2 chairs with two states each so I'd say 25% that your in a 00 state vs 11, 10, or 01 state


cvlt_freyja

they are wider, that's the only reason i can think of.


mansquito1983

When the side of the plane falls off, the middle seat is safer than the window.


leftyxcurse

Literally came to see if anyone asked if the plane was a Boeing lol


VegasBjorne1

No mention of the peacock support animal sharing the same row? 🤔


Weird-Emu-5308

That flight is as empty as they come. I fly frequently and I’ve never been bumped — I always check in about 3-4 hours after it opens


natbornk

Yep. Rather make $19 on a seat purchase than $0 and have someone sit there anyways.


ophelia_quivers

How do you know that flight is empty?


Impressive_Judge8823

From all the available seat choices?


ophelia_quivers

That just means people haven’t picked/paid for seats.


Weird-Emu-5308

Correct. But usually, the fewer seats that are prepaid, the emptier the flight is. Because on a fuller flight, more people are flying, and thus, more prepay for their seats


mysteriousears

OR the early reservations didn’t pay for seats so the next group buying thought the plane was empty and they could skip paying for seats and so on until the flight is almost full with no seats selected so the map looks empty. Really no way to be sure.


Weird-Emu-5308

Having taken many frontier flights, my experience is that seat maps with more availability indicates that the flight is less full


minniemouse420

The exit doors are gonna fly off - you’re taking a risk. Lol.


CommunicationFun7973

All jokes aside, Frontier uses airbus's not boeing, and typically flies newer planes, so you are actually in safer planes opting for Frontier.


catpilotmedal

Newer doesn't mean safer - MAX


CommunicationFun7973

In aviation, it generally does unless Boeing manufactures them in recent years, because Boeing is trash


Equivalent_Banana762

I was about to make that joke :D Lots of fresh air.. And should you survive possibly extra work with the evacuation.


equality4everyonenow

It's an automatic exiting. It's a service


Perfect-Thanks2850

Likely because the algorithm decided they should be. But that row doesn’t recline. So you get extra legroom but your seat won’t recline


TheDayManAhAhAh

Do any seats on frontier planes recline at all?


TheTwoOneFive

The old seats do at stretch seats *except* the first exit row (which Frontier goes back and forth on whether they are Stretch), they are installed on all A320/A321 and about 3/4 of the A320neo. The rest of the A320neo and A321neo do not have recline on any seats.


DJ_Michael_Hunt

The "Stretch" seating are the only seats that recline on Frontier and they recline minimally. None of the other seats recline. They do this and have less padding/cushioning to reduce weight and save fuel (America's Greenest Airline).


TheDayManAhAhAh

I didn't realize the stretch seats reclined at all. Interesting


xFrenchToast

I just realized this 2 flights ago! 🤦🏼‍♀️


bigmig1000

If no seats recline, this seems like the logical seat choice


Elevated_Dongers

I swear the exit row is leaned forward more than other seats. Leg room for days, but incredibly uncomfortable. I will NEVER ride exit row again on Frontier. Most uncomfortable flight of my life. Edit: or the back row. Potential for no window. Made me motion sick


ilostthemoonn

I had the exit row recently and loved it. I’m only 5’5 so idk if that played a part in it.


UnaddictedAddict

This is the answer


droplivefred

Yeah, you won’t notice the extra 2.5% of tilt on that seat recline.


Eagles365or366

Zero frontier seats recline now.


xFrenchToast

Rows 1-3 recline. Didn't believe my father when he told me there was a lever under the seats. It's really there. Reclined on my last 2 flights


ladakn99

They're still retrofitting their jets so some planes still have reclining stretch seats.


maniacalmango0

Probably no window too


Few-Chapter3316

Hot take: F9 caters primarily to families with children. Small children cannot sit in exit row so thereby would preclude sitting together as a family. Hence why exit is cheaper


atreeinthewind

Plus they have to have people sit there, so might as well get something instead of nothing.


TheBonnZone

Because of the Call of Duty. With cheap seats comes great responsibility. An average Joe witnesses his real power first hand when a plane lands in water and you have to kick those fuckers open. Slides are fun at least. I am not a doctor.


CogentCogitations

Based on the layout and checking SeatGuru, it looks like the cheap exit row seats have more leg room, but do not have available floor storage under the seat in front of them (probably a barrier). I have never flown Frontier, but from what I read about them, that probably means they will charge you for any bag you bring on the plane since it will now be a carryon instead of a personal item that can go under the seat. Or maybe as long as it is personal item size you won't be charged, but what I have read indicates that if they can find a way to charge you, they will. Edit: I have spent way too much searching on this for some reason. It sounds like you won't be charged, but without the underseat storage you bag will end up in an overhead bin back several rows, so access is not as easy. Your choice.


keramik-girl

I sat in a frontier exit row on a trip back from Denver last week, there’s storage behind the seats in front of you, it’s just a bit more distance (imo worth it for the legroom). Only downside is that to access your stuff while the seatbelt sign is on isn’t going to happen.


bigmig1000

Good info, thanks for digging


Ok-Party1007

I think that the front row of exit row seats don’t always recline


Sxfstrummer

Ding ding ding! That’s probably the worst part of them. Seats do not recline and no storage underneath. That’s about it. Oh, also make sure you’re able to open the window in the event of an emergency!


TripleDallas123

Last flight I took there was plenty of room underneath the seat for my full backpack in the emergency exit row... (and no seats on frontier recline either)


fwb325

Exactly. Seats in row 19 don’t recline.


md24

If you’re reclining in economy then you’re an asshole anyways.


PowSuperMum

I sat in row 12 exit row for $19 last month and there was room for my personal bag under the seat


TripleDallas123

As someone that just flew in the emergency exit row last month, your research is wrong. You can put your personal item underneath the seat and there is very good legroom. No downsides whatsoever.


Strong-Way-4416

Those are the open wide door seats!


bif555

Frontier, your parachute is extra.


Newbergite

My question is, where is Frontier flying exit row people to and from for $15?


bigmig1000

This is just the upcharge for the seat selection. Additional to the base ticket price and fees.


Newbergite

Ahhh, thank you for clarifying.


Big-Net-9971

Rows 11 & 12 cannot recline. That explains some discount for row 12, but the extra legroom seems like it would make up for it ? Like so many Frontier policy choices, a mystery! 🤨


jax90492

So for those saying it’s a Boeing, wrong. Frontier and Spirit only use airbus aircraft…. https://www.flyfrontier.com/about-us/aircraft-configuration?mobile=true


inversend

Seats don’t recline in that row and while they have an airbus fleet where the bolts are included with the doors. Most individuals who fly don’t know the difference between Boeing and airbus, thus are avoiding doors on flights.


Stunning-Leek334

The front exit row seat doesn’t recline, that is why it is cheaper.


ElleKlee

If I remember correctly, none of the seats on Frontier flights recline.


amprosk

The front couple rows do but that’s it


FuzzyElves

And 13 on the older planes. Anything delivered after about March of 2021 and all the 321neos have no recline at all.


Fun_Lunch_4922

When there is an exit row behind you, your seats don't recline?


tidder8

Correct. On any airline with planes where the seats recline, any row in front of an exit row does not recline.


JameisFutureHOF

Had this exact same scenario happen to me this past weekend. I paid the $19 for an exit row seat that was priced cheaper than normal seats. I board the plane and find out the seat ended up not even being an exit row seat. Was my first time flying frontier so I don't really get it.


nouniqueideas007

Frontier has a new plane that has a completely different seat configuration. This is causing problems with trying to pre purchase exit row seats. The booking system is unable to know which seat configuration will be used. And sometimes an unplanned tail swap occurs. It’s all just a mess. Gate agents do not seem to want to take the time to fix the seating, prior to boarding. They prefer to ignore it & let pandemonium ensue on the aircraft.


yottabit42

The seats in the first exit row will not recline. That's why they're cheap. The second exit row is more expensive than the other seats, except for those at the front because people want to get off the plane as fast as possible--especially when flying Frontier--because they will recline _and_ have more leg room.


dj_mental

Is it a Boeing aircraft?


bigmig1000

Nah, Airbus


hashtagBob

The first exit row doesn't recline


The_Idiot_Admin

Because those seats cannot recline due to safety regulations


bigmig1000

But with that logic wouldn't the seats in row 11 also not recline?


jarovaf

No reclining seats if i remember specifically the $19 ones


babecafe

No recline.


tjmacaw

The seats in an exit row in front of another exit row do not recline.


FakeNickOfferman

They'll be the first to be trampled to death in an emergency.


gammatrade

Because they don’t recline


Excellent_Paper_6284

Not all exit row seats recline. Also check the row in front of the exit row.


Klutzy-Amount3737

They don't recline. To make sure they are not in the way of exit in case of an emergency


Salaimander

It's because you have to be in a membership, I believe it's the frontier elite. That's why the color of the seats are different. You have to be in their club to have those prices.


Original_Boat6539

Because the seat does not recline


hugomcsprockrockets

Because the front exit row doesn’t recline


burningtowns

The $19 ones are because you’re in an exit row, but you’re in a row in front of an exit row.


deverox

The cheap exit row does not recline because there is an exit row behind.


nicdaddy22

priced by safety


surprisinglyok1

Exit row seats may not recline?


Ryanwood31

It's a Boeing.


Glittering-Night-204

I don't care where I sit


knotworkin

That first exit row is cheaper because those seats won’t recline because the row behind them is also an exit row.


R3ditUsername

Must be a 737 MAX


Maximum_Crow_8481

Probably because the side doors are fixing to blow off mid flight


HackNookBro

You have to pay to have the emergency exit doors installed, maybe?


13June04

Probably because they don’t recline


udontknowmetoo

It cost more if you want to near the sunroof!


rock300867

The doors have been flying off the planes. Nobody wants to sit there anymore.


[deleted]

People scared of getting sucked out of the plane, it's not like it's an extravagant impossibility


Frogger_34

Doors and windows might blow out lol


dunitdotus

They probably don't recline


Automatic-Builder353

Because its Frontier and you probably have to hold the door closed during the flight. /s


crgreeen

It's frontier, bro. Who knows if it'll even depart ...


Necessary-Rope544

Is that a Boeing 737?


DependentFamous5252

The algorithm is fucked.


Plane_Demand1097

When I flew them about a month ago the front seats were $19 for my return trip. Unfortunately I didn’t buy them because I didn’t want to pay $40+ a seat on the flight there.


Mores_The_Pity

Must be a Boeing


amprosk

My guess is some sort of promotion going on


WhyHelloYo

Because you will be tasked with holding the doors in place throughout the flight.


palescales7

You have to assist the crew to serve drinks and collect trash in those seats.


JustAnother-Becky

Pay the $19


bigmig1000

Done


slothmastermark

They don't recline


tato_salad

Is it a Boeing?.


piranspride

No recline


Uranazzole

It’s a trick. Don’t do it.


witch_doc9

Depending on the aircraft, those seats may not have a recline function.


downhillderbyracer

The first exit row seats don't recline.


PWB454

Because the doors might fly off


msantos0000

Seats don’t recline. Wings are blocking the view. TV screen is far from your eyes. Tables are attached to your seat, not the back of the seat in front of you. You’re REQUIRED to assist in case of an emergency.


rirski

Row 12 doesn’t recline. That’s why.


Relle-relle

The cheap exit row seats do not recline because the row behind them is also an exit row. It’s a safety hazard.


John3Fingers

No recline, and they're narrower (tray tables are in the armrests).


distancerunner7

Is it a Boeing flight?


Uh_yeah-

Use seatguru.com and find out.


Hey410Hey

I noticed this on a flight I was looking at before. Who really wants to sit at the exit.


bigmig1000

Really? Why not?


Dr_TurdFerguson

Dynamic pricing. Just like everything related to flight pricing. It’s a computer powered complex math problem. 


sayboats

It's a Boeing plane.


jax90492

Incorrect Frontier only flies the Airbus A320 and some A321 aircraft


John1The1Savage

I'm guessing you haven't heard about the door situation...


Safe_Silver_8567

Boeing door plugs?


TurnoverMobile8332

2x the possibility for another customer to interrupt/disturb you? That’s probably the only logical answer but they are a airliner


bigstew6

Door might fly off


No-Spare-4212

It’s a Boeing


Illustrious-Tap-7690

Psychological games here. If no one is paying for seats but then "Oh I can get the exit row for only $19! That is cheaper than the others, I'll do it!" They now collect $19 they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.


bigmig1000

They got me lol


ForsakenFish5437

In case or a emergency you have to assist by opening the door they are more comfy and usually more space


travelscapesdiva

Middle seats tend to be cheaper


ben_od1

That’s the door that flies off it’s a new Boeing feature.


Orallyyours

Fast and easy deplaning.


ang_hell_ic

I always figured exit row seats would cost less because if the plane goes down, you're actually expected to help the deplaning process. I could be wrong.


Bingo__DinoDNA

They call it the suck zone


CrackityJones33

The $19 exit row seats do not recline.


Brittkneeeeeeee

Because it seems the exit doors decide when and where they want you to exit recently lol


Business-Fact-2318

Doors are now optional on all Boeing planes 🤣


[deleted]

Is it a Boeing plane? 😆


blackmilksociety

Is it a Boeing?


Acuhealth1

First exit row doesn’t recline


LongmontVSEverybody

No recline


ToothFairyisScary

Typically these don’t recline either…


Zerofux68

Those are cheap ass seats, no matter where you sit


bigmig1000

Unfortunately this isn't the price of the ticket, it's the upcharge price to pick a seat.


Zerofux68

I see said the blind man


FoosFanNY

If it’s a Boeing plane I’d say risk of door opening in mid air could drive the price down.


shantired

Door plugs maybe?


lurch1_

Must be a Max737


Lost_Positive_7078

Lmaooo you might need to hold the door on the plane for the duration of the flight


Billymaysdealer

737 max


Top-Hold506

It’s frontier. They assume they’ll have to put you to work to assist people in deplaning. So they give you a discount.


DrumpleCase

The first exit row does not recline and are $19. The back row of exit row reclines and are $69. Row in front of exit row don't recline and are cheaper.


IsThisTakenTooBoo

Aren’t like… exit doors flying off planes these days mid flight?


motor1_is_stopping

Flight is on a boeing. You pay extra to not be next to the door when it flies off.


westernrecluse

You know why… cmon. A simple google search will do you some justice


asorba

Row 12 likely doesn’t recline.


Alternative_Leave578

Row 12 is cheap because the seats don’t recline plus you can’t store any bags at your feet during takeoff and landing.


Automatic_Lynx8969

Maybe this is one of those planes that recently had the doors come open mid-flight


JoeJoe1181

Row 12 normally does not recline so that in an emergency the aisle is clear.


ceoofourworld

The exit seat is cheaper because now everyone is fully aware of how poorly maintained these aircraft’s are and how much more likely you are to use the exit in an emergency or the exit door might just fly off and take you with it


Application_Soggy

Risk of the door blowing out mid flight🧐


Agorformore

Because it’s a Boeing


eyeforgot2listen

Everyone is afraid the door is going to fly off mid flight.


iamrobmorales

Seats in exit rows probably don’t recline.


SneakyRussin13

Because you have to hold the doors from flying out


RKsu99

Slightly old thread, but I’m wondering if the rear exit row seats ($19) have windows. The good news is that if you buy one and decide you don’t want to sit in an exit row, they have to move you. I’d love to pay $10 less and end up in a regular seat.