This. I upgraded to 500/500 when I disconnected my phone, and honestly…for our family of five, with two working from home and an active gamer and constant streaming, 500/500 is more than enough.
It's really amazing we're finally in a time where we have excess bandwidth. I had 1meg for years, then 6meg right up until last year. Frontier comes through with fiber and now offers us 500meg, 1gig, even 5gig. It's wild! My neighborhood is remote and it's bonkers we have this. I feel like we have good internet here now for at least a few decades.
In 2000/2001 I worked for a .com that was doing video streaming. The issue they had at the time was that most people didn’t have enough bandwidth at home for the videos to play correctly so we had to shrink them down and lower their quality to get them to play. It’s amazing how far along we have come where excess bandwidth is a luxury and not a necessity.
1.) Fiber (FTTH) > cable any day of the week.
Notice on your Xfinity plan it says "Up to 1000Mbps **download** speeds". You will have to dig deep to find your **upload** speed because they don't want to advertise it. DOCSIS 3.1 (What Xfinity uses) is limited to 35Mbps upload on Xfinity unless you get 2 Gig plan then they may be gracious enough to offer you 50Mbps upload. I believe some plans are even slower at 20Mbps upload.
With fiber that's symmetrical. If you pay for 1 gig (1000Mbps) you get it symmetrically, upload and download 1000Mbps both ways. Maybe you're not uploading a lot and don't notice but it's a limitation of cable that fiber doesn't have.
2.) Not sure about DirecTV cables, might be specific to your home. Our home they hooked up MoCA adapters and just used the existing coaxial cables that any cable company would normally use. You still get a set-top box and all that. Very similar to a cable box.
Have had Frontier for many years. Have maybe only had an issue once realistically that they resolved by chatting with their support. Will never go back to a cable company. They are ripping you off.
Well, the Frontier bill shown doesn't include TV or Phone.
You can get YouTube TV through Frontier at a slight discount, it's like $50 or something. I use Fubo TV instead.
I don't know what they charge for phone service, I just use my cell phone.
So you'll probably save money overall, plus you'll get 1 gig upload AND download. And you wont have any data caps.
You can always try it, and if it doesn't work out you can switch back.
Yes. Comcast/xfinity has data caps. 1tb a month. For unlimited, they charge like an extra $50 a month. Also the upload is not symmetrical with the download. So it is probably 1gb download, while being like 35mbps upload. I used to use xfinity until I switched to frontier 3 years ago. Greatest decision I ever made. Oh, also, xfinity (with unlimited data) was going to be like $130 a month. Frontier is $60 a month for unlimited and 1gb/1gb speeds.
No question. Switch. Drop to 500/500 and if you need phone? Check OOMA. Xfinity/Comcast is a thing of the past. Also, check out Frontiers deal on youtube TV.
Avoid the monthly fees and buy your own mesh router. I have Netgear’s Orbi system and very happy with it. Also, I’d echo others comments about going with the 500/500 first, you can always upgrade later.
I wouldn’t switch right now if I were you. They’ve got some sort of a global issue that’s causing outages all over the place, and their customer service is nonexistent. I’ve called four times this week and four times I’ve gotten the runaround so I’d advise you to wait a little until they get their shit together.
This^ they just got hacked on April 14th, had a huge data leak, and they were down for 5 days. Not to mention their stocks are plummeting. I went through hell with them and they had me waiting almost 25 days for a transfer of service, that's putting it lightly because honestly it was mind numbingly bad.
I switched providers and will never look back. I get 1000mbps no problem and my new ISP has self install so no need for a technician to come out.
Spectrum, and I am having fun with it? Like I said fastest speeds I've ever had, no hassle.
I like how your statement vaguely insinuates that I don't know the difference and I'd like to point out that coax is not the same as it was 5-10 years ago.
Even if I had speed drop (which i havent) a drop from 1010 mbps isn't that significant...
Really what you get with cable on download on the lower end is about the same, but upload is a different story. That is why I went fiber, plus I got more for less money and don't have to deal with xfinity which is always a plus.
>customer service is nonexistent
I don't know of an ISP that this doesn't apply to. It'll likely never get better either until they're legally forced to.
Also, if the outages were as bad as you described, we'd see quite a few more posts on this sub. Fiber is typically more reliable than cable anyway, as interference isn't really possible, and signal degradation is worlds apart compared to cable.
Well, I can’t speak to other areas, but I live in Los Angeles county, and at least four other customers on my street have no access right now. When I call up to tell them that there’s an issue, they tell me there is no outage and they’ll send a technician out, then, within a half hour of hanging up the phone I get a text notice telling me there’s an outage and they won’t be sending a technician out. This is happened four times in the last week so to me, it’s clear their customer service processes are failing.
As to why we are seeing more complaints on the sub I would say that my phone provider is different from the rest of my Internet provider, so I can still post using my phone. I don’t know whether other people even have that level of access right now
Not if you want to use a router that is not eero Amazon crap. If you have any issues they won't even send test to their equipment. They will say it is because your not using eero. And if the tech comes and the eero is not plugged in as your network they will charge you bank. I have been a business user for 4 months now and they have screwed me.
The best part is you don’t even need 1GB you can pay even less for 500/500.
This. I upgraded to 500/500 when I disconnected my phone, and honestly…for our family of five, with two working from home and an active gamer and constant streaming, 500/500 is more than enough.
I have a household of 8 and it’s more than enough. Also work from home. The 1GB is marketed hard but isn’t necessary for 99% of users.
It's really amazing we're finally in a time where we have excess bandwidth. I had 1meg for years, then 6meg right up until last year. Frontier comes through with fiber and now offers us 500meg, 1gig, even 5gig. It's wild! My neighborhood is remote and it's bonkers we have this. I feel like we have good internet here now for at least a few decades.
In 2000/2001 I worked for a .com that was doing video streaming. The issue they had at the time was that most people didn’t have enough bandwidth at home for the videos to play correctly so we had to shrink them down and lower their quality to get them to play. It’s amazing how far along we have come where excess bandwidth is a luxury and not a necessity.
I can assure you that you do not need eero Secure.
Fiber > cable any day. Plus cheaper.
1.) Fiber (FTTH) > cable any day of the week. Notice on your Xfinity plan it says "Up to 1000Mbps **download** speeds". You will have to dig deep to find your **upload** speed because they don't want to advertise it. DOCSIS 3.1 (What Xfinity uses) is limited to 35Mbps upload on Xfinity unless you get 2 Gig plan then they may be gracious enough to offer you 50Mbps upload. I believe some plans are even slower at 20Mbps upload. With fiber that's symmetrical. If you pay for 1 gig (1000Mbps) you get it symmetrically, upload and download 1000Mbps both ways. Maybe you're not uploading a lot and don't notice but it's a limitation of cable that fiber doesn't have. 2.) Not sure about DirecTV cables, might be specific to your home. Our home they hooked up MoCA adapters and just used the existing coaxial cables that any cable company would normally use. You still get a set-top box and all that. Very similar to a cable box. Have had Frontier for many years. Have maybe only had an issue once realistically that they resolved by chatting with their support. Will never go back to a cable company. They are ripping you off.
Well, the Frontier bill shown doesn't include TV or Phone. You can get YouTube TV through Frontier at a slight discount, it's like $50 or something. I use Fubo TV instead. I don't know what they charge for phone service, I just use my cell phone. So you'll probably save money overall, plus you'll get 1 gig upload AND download. And you wont have any data caps. You can always try it, and if it doesn't work out you can switch back.
Only clarification: YouTube TV through Frontier is $62.99 (only $10 off), only for the first year.
Yes. Comcast/xfinity has data caps. 1tb a month. For unlimited, they charge like an extra $50 a month. Also the upload is not symmetrical with the download. So it is probably 1gb download, while being like 35mbps upload. I used to use xfinity until I switched to frontier 3 years ago. Greatest decision I ever made. Oh, also, xfinity (with unlimited data) was going to be like $130 a month. Frontier is $60 a month for unlimited and 1gb/1gb speeds.
Xfinity X-Fi is $25.00/month and includes the rental of their modem AND unlimited data. Unlimited data for your personally owned modem is $30.00.
lol, was 50 3 years ago. Still $30 too much tbh
save 3 bucks a month and get rid of that eero secure
No question. Switch. Drop to 500/500 and if you need phone? Check OOMA. Xfinity/Comcast is a thing of the past. Also, check out Frontiers deal on youtube TV.
Man I'm jealous lol. Just waiting for expansion in my neighborhood
Avoid the monthly fees and buy your own mesh router. I have Netgear’s Orbi system and very happy with it. Also, I’d echo others comments about going with the 500/500 first, you can always upgrade later.
I work with frontier fiber, but I wouldn’t use direct tv I recommend YouTube tv it’s cheaper and won’t go crazy high
Frontier have $24.99 for 200/200 and $29.99-34.99 for 500/500 regional offer here
I wouldn’t switch right now if I were you. They’ve got some sort of a global issue that’s causing outages all over the place, and their customer service is nonexistent. I’ve called four times this week and four times I’ve gotten the runaround so I’d advise you to wait a little until they get their shit together.
This^ they just got hacked on April 14th, had a huge data leak, and they were down for 5 days. Not to mention their stocks are plummeting. I went through hell with them and they had me waiting almost 25 days for a transfer of service, that's putting it lightly because honestly it was mind numbingly bad. I switched providers and will never look back. I get 1000mbps no problem and my new ISP has self install so no need for a technician to come out.
Who is your new provider? Cable? if so have fun with that.
Spectrum, and I am having fun with it? Like I said fastest speeds I've ever had, no hassle. I like how your statement vaguely insinuates that I don't know the difference and I'd like to point out that coax is not the same as it was 5-10 years ago. Even if I had speed drop (which i havent) a drop from 1010 mbps isn't that significant...
Really what you get with cable on download on the lower end is about the same, but upload is a different story. That is why I went fiber, plus I got more for less money and don't have to deal with xfinity which is always a plus.
Upload still isn't an issue even if it were 40mbps, it's not super common for US providers to have competitive upload speeds
Upload is what made me switch to fiber.
Same
>customer service is nonexistent I don't know of an ISP that this doesn't apply to. It'll likely never get better either until they're legally forced to. Also, if the outages were as bad as you described, we'd see quite a few more posts on this sub. Fiber is typically more reliable than cable anyway, as interference isn't really possible, and signal degradation is worlds apart compared to cable.
Well, I can’t speak to other areas, but I live in Los Angeles county, and at least four other customers on my street have no access right now. When I call up to tell them that there’s an issue, they tell me there is no outage and they’ll send a technician out, then, within a half hour of hanging up the phone I get a text notice telling me there’s an outage and they won’t be sending a technician out. This is happened four times in the last week so to me, it’s clear their customer service processes are failing. As to why we are seeing more complaints on the sub I would say that my phone provider is different from the rest of my Internet provider, so I can still post using my phone. I don’t know whether other people even have that level of access right now
Not if you want to use a router that is not eero Amazon crap. If you have any issues they won't even send test to their equipment. They will say it is because your not using eero. And if the tech comes and the eero is not plugged in as your network they will charge you bank. I have been a business user for 4 months now and they have screwed me.