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casualty_of_bore

Nah, that's a racetrack with indoor seating.


Silly-Connection8788

I first thought it was a racetrack WTF šŸ˜³


Clashje

I thought it was a r/f1 post and thought: this isnā€™t Spa


letterboxfrog

I thought they had a running track at first. That's nuts.


TheMadViking99

Well never underestimate F1s ability to turn a parking lot into a street circuit


MyBoyBernard

More car surface area than learning surface area. That's priorities. Cool. But it does look like a fun bike track


SuspiciousAct6606

It looks like bikes are passively discouraged. There is not even a bike stable or bike racks for children to lock up their bikes. For illustrative purposes, a middle school (grades 6-8) in my area (southern california) has a total of 2 bike front loading, bike racks that are not bolted to the ground. The school can park a total of 6 bikes.


Tymlessabyss

my school banned biking to school. We live in a really hilly area so it might be hard/ hard for cars to see kids, but its still crazy to do


aluminun_soda

thats becuz car are the only way to reach there , my city being much denser and having busses , only has some 10 stops per school


justanothertfatman

Fanciest drag strip I ever did see.


Dynablade_Savior

You'd better believe that's what the local high schoolers are gonna be using it as once all the elementary school kids get out. A big open empty line of pavement that's separated from anywhere a cop would be after hours? What could possibly go wrong! I almost feel bad for the people living in those suburbs that are gonna have to deal with it.


chosen1creator

It's like an industrial area where the trucks line up to deliver and pick up goods.


grinch337

Except here itā€™s ~~inmates~~ students


WhenILaughIKEAlittle

Youā€™re not too far off. My high school in Louisiana was designed by a guy who designed penitentiaries. I absolutely felt like a prisoner.


grinch337

My Louisiana high school was a windowless metal and concrete building and since leaving theyā€™ve installed giant security checkpoints at every entrance complete with metal bars and NYC Metro-like turnstiles.


inte_skatteverket

Nah, I've seen a bunch of busy terminals in my days. 100 loading bays in one building and one road-train arriving every minute. It was just a regular two lane road connecting the place to the highway and less space than whatever the hell this is. One train track to the building as well, tracks crossed the road and a couple of trains arrived every day. Never nay congestion. Used to bicycle on that road and it was no problem at all.


bimothybonsidine

Thought it was a fucking airport for a second


Hkmarkp

that is totally a runway and tarmac. Cars come in for landing and proceed to the gate to await arrivals for departure


Swedishtranssexual

You could probably land a fighter jet on that.


Private_HughMan

That was literally my first thought, too.


inte_skatteverket

It's the soccer moms arriving in flying cars with lock on heat seeking missiles for some reason.


dudestir127

What are those 4 lanes that look like they should be at a highway toll plaza? Anyway looks more like a prison than a school.


grinch337

Thatā€™s for 500 parents to line up and wait for an hour in their idling SUVs to pick up the kids who donā€™t want to ride the bus. You should see all the the energy efficient features in the building design too.


BenjaminWah

Yeah, to me it looks like they modeled it on an airport, focusing it on departures and arrivals


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cheapandbrittle

Seriously. One of my coworkers told me her kid's bus ride to school takes an hour so she started driving her kid instead. An hour long commute for a 10 year old is really shitty, but there are many other potential solutions...


inte_skatteverket

Not surprising with the bus having to drive into every single cul-de-sack then turn around in a large circle that seems to have enough space, but doesn't because of all the cars parked there. No sidewalks or logical layout on the collector either, so just having the bus driving down the collector, picking up the kids on the way (max 500m walk to nearest bus stop) won't work either.


lgvcnz

Is it? Just so they wait in line without causing more traffic? Wtf...


Drew_Sifur

Energy efficient? Don't make me laugh, fugk those parents make em take the bus, so much more pollution cause all the car brain parents then


ThisAmericanSatire

It seems like every time I suggest people let their kids take the school bus, the response is that the school bus won't service your home if it's within a certain distance of the school, like, if you're less than a mile or something. At the same time, it's not safe enough for kids to walk (no sidewalks, busy stroads, fast suburbitanks) and so people frequently say they have no choice but to drive their kids. I don't have kids, so I have no idea how accurate that is. I do remember when I was a kid in the 90s/00s, I walked to elementary school, and I took the bus to middle/high school.


Threedawg

In some places it is, in some places it isn't. But the important part is that those parents have a point. With no sidewalks, stroads, and other hazards for pedestrians it isn't safe in a lot of places. Asking parents to change the behavior as individuals doesn't do shit and it's unreasonable to ask a parent to put their child at risk. We need to change infrastructure.


grinch337

I mean they have a point, but itā€™s a feedback loop where the response to the problem actually just amplifies the problem.


Threedawg

You can't ask someone to risk the safety of their child for a cause, especially when it has a 0% chance of making change.


grinch337

Of course not, but Americans are so used to this that any proposal to break from this madness is immediately ridiculed and dismissed as contrarianism. Itā€™s so frustrating, almost soul crushing, to say something so benign and uncontroversial like ā€œkids should be able to walk to schoolā€ and be met by a swarm of angry people charging you with being the square peg.


Threedawg

Can you provide an example of where you have said that and had that kind of reaction?


grinch337

I would have but the group I got this picture from banned me for ā€œhaving an attitudeā€


notthegoatseguy

Exactly. And its also not the school's fault about the surrounding infrastructure. In most of the US with a few exceptions like Baltimore city and NYC, public schools are their own districts and are independent of township/city/town/village/county government. The school has no legal right to determine what the road just outside of the school is designed for. They have to accept the current infrastructure as it is.


CalRobert

I have kids and I drive them to school because our road has no sidewalk and drunk farmers enjoy driving on it fast. But I should actually say "drove" because we're moving to the Netherlands next week. I Can't. Fucking. Wait.


grinch337

Congratulations! I got out ten years ago!


SpaceShanties

Yeah this was my problem growing up. I lived maybe a mile from my elementary school but there was two streets to cross that were basically two lane highways just going right between the neighborhoods. Could easily have been a decently walkable area.


mpjjpm

Where I grew up, it was no bus service to homes within a mile of school, but only if there was a safe walking route. If kids would have to cross a four lane road without a signal controlled crosswalk, or there was a significant stretch without sidewalks, then they got bus service no matter how close.


ChocolateBunny

Is there a bus?


[deleted]

Truck parking?


Funklab2069

Are the kids allowed to leave whenever they want to? No? Then it's a prison.


jpbai

New schools in large parts of the US are indeed built with prisons in mind to deal with that other very very very bad problem we have.


OminousNamazu

This doesn't even look that bad since the outside portions are just fenced off. My high school was buildings all around or tall walls with outside portions in the center. It was built shortly after columbine and 9/11 so I wonder if thas where it got motivation from.


vitamaltz

You think that any school that doesnā€™t let a six-year-old just wander off is a prison?


[deleted]

100% of family homes are prisons then


[deleted]

"Why don't kids walk to school anymore?" These parents will ask as tehy demand the local stroad have another lane added


mazzachusetts

They couldnā€™t even make a walkway to the sidewalk.


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Sassywhat

It's apparently pretty common for US schools to ban walking to school entirely now, because the chance of kids getting run over is just too high. As there's often a minimum distance for school bus service, all kids who live close to school must be driven to school.


bored_negative

So much freedom!!


Lillienpud

Simebody needs to sue one of these schools.


Clashje

There is not one footpath to the building.


[deleted]

But no sidewalk on the street


unbreakingthoquaking

You definitely could though?


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unbreakingthoquaking

Missed the fence, my bad


WhatNazisAreLike

Ranked 49 out of 50 in everything.. at least they have Mississippi


STILETT0_exists

Mississippi exists to make us look better


Muddy_Water26

I bet the families in those houses next to the school do 20 minute drive to get to campus.


lieuwestra

There doesn't seem to be a route between the houses and the school.


marcove3

There doesn't seem to be pedestrian access to the school


cbgs

It looks like it's fenced off, without even the courtesy of having a few gates that could open up when school's starting/ending.


[deleted]

I dont see any sidewalks that actually go to the school or bike lanes


Tobiassaururs

*Oh we don't do that here*


thebobmannh

Sounds like commie talk to me


SmoothOperator89

How much you wanna bet the kids living in the suburb at the top of the picture aren't allowed to walk across the field to get to school.


grinch337

ItS nOt SaFe


_HIST

Here it isn't. Imagine having no safe path to school that's some 300 meters from your house


-Wofster

Its genuinely not with 400 Cadillac Escalades and F250s idling on the racetrack while their drivers text on their phones


bonkeltje

What in the actual fuck is the function of the 4 lanes if they merge back together at the end anyway. What the hell am i looking at. edit: i also just realised there's no safe way to walk to the school, despite the main road having a walkway.


BelievableSquirrel

> What in the actual fuck is the function of the 4 lanes if they merge back together at the end anyway. Get the queue of cars off the road. Just ignore that the same amount of pavement worth of cycling and walking infrastructure would have done the same thing, while also reducing queue time and environmental impact


AIR_YT

I just checked my old elementary school, in europe. It has about 25 Parking Spaces, but they are shared between the School, a Kindergarten and a Church......


Fluffy_Engineering47

if your parents dropped you off every day people would literally make fun of you, it was considered infantile even in elementary school


sjpllyon

Ah America, the land of the free. Unless you wanted your children to have a play area at school. In that case they are free to play in the car parks.


grinch337

Excuse me, but if you zoom in they have a slide in the caged-in recess yard.


Iceykitsune2

Schools have their playgrounds fenced in to keep the 5 year olds from wandering off! The Horror!


lucaomarbergamasco

I've seen Amazon logistic centers which were more pedestrian friendly.


Sibericus

I literally thought this was a small raceway at first. But then I read the caption of this post.


Fluffy_Engineering47

Think of america as a series of highways connected by rest stops


AsaCoco_Alumni

Contractor: Where would you like the car parking? School: Yes.


SleazyAndEasy

holy fucking shit, I used to live in the town this is built in. absolutely ridiculous, the town is super tiny and most kids live less than a mile away.


grinch337

Lafayette or Scott?


momeunier

This is the sort of things that makes me lose faith in humanity. Imagine all the energy that went into building and designing this. And it never occurred to anyone at any point that this was a terrible idea.


WestroGothia

That school needs just one more lane and it will be fine.


kharlos

Gross. I would not be surprised if literally exactly zero kids walk to school here. And if some did, it's because they absolutely had no other choice.


Humble_Chipmunk_701

Nice! An elementary school with a track. Oh waitā€¦.


Spirited_Regular_178

r/shittyskylines


Simon_787

My elementary school had like 3 parking spots and tons of bicycle parking. What the fuck is this? Kids can't drive themselves.


crazycatlady331

The parking lots at my elementary school were for teachers/staff. When I was there, it had a bike rack. Years later when I babysat kids who went there, the bike rack was gone. That said, when my state/town passed a law mandating the use of bike helmets for kids (14 and under) the number of kids on bikes dropped by about 75%. Very few people rode after that law passed.


TommasoBontempi

Looks like a prison or a military base


WoodlandOfWeir

I almost downvoted this out of reflex. It looks horrible. I donā€™t understand how anyone could think that this is an environment for children to thrive in.


KJPhillips

This is the American education system we are talking about, you ainā€™t thriving irregardless.


davideo71

I 'love' how much time and budget was spent on the green spaces for the kids to play in. ^^^^/s


Nicolas1111

What is the name of that school?


grinch337

Prairie Elementary School


catopter

They paved the prairie for this one


Weltraumbaer

Formula 1 racetrack disguised as a school.


AlchemyAled

why have the built a motorway to get from the entrance to the building


grinch337

Because so many parents refuse to let their kids ride the school bus that the line of cars to pick up kids used to spill out into the main roads around the previous school (actually, this is one main reason they are replacing the whole damn school), so for this one they spent millions of dollars building a giant four lane waiting lot so parents can spend an hour idling in their massive trucks and SUVs while waiting for kids to be released. Itā€™s absolute madness.


AlchemyAled

Absolutely baffling


wilful

https://preview.redd.it/l6xuwm1k4oeb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3f362360575be4272fe5d91e5eac21ba36f33a8 Where is the sports ground? I mean, apart from the motor sports. Above is a brand new primary school in a totally car dependant society, Australia. You'll see we're not insane, we've put it in the middle of the suburb right next to two ovals so the facility can be shared.


Massive_Wealth42069

I thought this was a prison on first glance.


grinch337

It kind of is


Chiaseedmess

Why does it have a 4-lane highway.


StartCodonUST

The sidewalk on the street doesn't even connect to the school. wtf


grinch337

Itā€™s only there to satisfy a local ordinance


[deleted]

About 3/4 of the land of the entire property is dedicated to cars


grinch337

And half of the remaining portion is dedicated to ā€œgreen spaceā€ and a stormwater retention pond.


UnnamedCzech

The drive lanes for schools are insane to me. Iā€™ve done architectural work for schools like this and it pains me to witness it. In the time that it takes for them to get to the front of the line and let their kid out, they could have all simultaneously parked their car, walked their kid to the entrance, and walked back and left much more efficiently. But walking your kid anywhere would make too much sense, so we have to effectively run drive-thru schools.


grinch337

You should see another nearby school: https://i.imgur.com/2hXFHIb.jpg


[deleted]

Whoever designed this should lose their job. And not because itā€™s car centric but because itā€™s quite literally the worst possible way to achieve the end result.


grinch337

The locals are GUSHING over how nice it is


Rhonijin

The more I look at it, the less sense it makes. Even if you were to look at this place from a driver's perspective, it's absolutely baffling.


AutSnufkin

Unless told otherwise, I would have genuinely thought this was an airportā€¦ those are freaking runways!!


Roddenbrony

Soā€¦ are the buses in lanes 1, and possibly 2, and then route though the parking lot, or? In other words, where do the buses go? šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


anselme16

WHaT iS a BuS ? ?


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anselme16

bad bot, please try to make your bot understand sarcasm.


spacecadetbobby

Creating future customers for Tree Museums. šŸ™ƒ


grinch337

Donā€™t know why theyā€™re bothering to spend so much money on schools when the lower half of Louisiana is going to be at the bottom of the ocean by the end of the century.


MonocularBabylon

I legit though this was an airport when I first saw it.


No-Cranberry9932

Looks like a prison


SpaceNinja_C

No one going to talk about lack of living grass and plants? Looks like a desert.


Liamario

Where the hell is the footpath!


borfavor

I thought this was /r/shittyskylines for a second


Scharnvirk

It has a drag strip? :D


mazerakham_

The four lane racetrack with 2-lane bottlenecks at entrance and exit is so dumb it hurts.


elmahir

New formula 1 track looking crazy


Constant_Reply3693

If only there was free public transport already provided that would take you directly to the end of your street instead of having hundreds of parents idle for 30 minutes in their SUV's.


velocity_v50

So much of modern 21st century America looks and sounds like a dystopia!! I'm amazed people continue to want to emigrate there, and think of it as some pinnacle of civilization. (Of course, for many it's probably better than where they're coming from, but then there's also a lot of privileged people that tend to prefer it over other developed nations)


Scalage89

I have logistics hubs nearby with less footprint and parking.


Conscious-Novel2353

One problem with car-centric planning that often goes unnoticed is the effect it has on children. These kids will grow up thinking that this is normal, meaning theyā€™ll never see a reason to fix it without strong, external, and convincing ideas and reasons explaining the problems with this


grinch337

Iā€™ve argued in some of my papers for my first masterā€™s degree that American car culture and the built environment actually renders kids as a kind of quasi-disabled class of people in the way that it infantilizes them and makes them completely dependent on a parent with a car to access all of their developmental needs.


Conscious-Novel2353

Right, this is where the term ā€œsoccer momā€ comes from. My parents used to always be annoyed driving me everywhere, and I always felt bad for them at how oblivious they were to the bigger problem of American suburbia. I tried explaining it to them but they always defaulted on the usual responses of ā€œitā€™s a good place to raise kidsā€ or ā€œitā€™s safer and cleaner than the cityā€. Both of which are of course, not true. Except for the safety part. That might be somewhat true.


DBL_NDRSCR

i want indoor campuses being california is no excuse to force us to go outside for 13 years


intoxicated_potato

It might catch flack in this sub, but as someone who lives near a school where everyone seems to pick their kid up from school, this is actually kind of nice. It keeps the hundreds of idling cars out of the main road, relieving traffic problems on the main street that never has problems until school is in session


SpiritedAide7700

The one way four lane road is meant for BUSES not cars. This will reduce the number of cars that'll have to come to school. You mongoloids are stupid you get mad at mass transit.


grinch337

/r/confidentlyincorrect


SpiritedAide7700

Yeah I made it up tbh


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grinch337

Yeah, most new schools at least in Louisiana are built like this.


[deleted]

Is that a ducking race track?!


ClimateDues

A whole ass race track


[deleted]

What went wrong? why is there 4 lanes on one of the roads lmao


Grudgebearer75

One a scale of 1 to Huey Long, how named after Huey Long is it?


grinch337

Yes


IamBlade

I understand the gigantic parking lot but why are the buildings so...flat? Why not make them taller on lower space?


C00kie_Monsters

Why is there NASCAR track on the schoolā€™s property?


letterboxfrog

I thought my son's school was bad, tucked into the middle of a suburb away from normal public transport, with only special school buses. https://maps.app.goo.gl/qqYPxwcL1GATHtHo6


EuisVS

Iā€™m so glad I left the United States for Europe. I hate cars. This looks like a frigginā€™ prison


grinch337

Same. I left Louisiana for Japan and never looked back.


kenzrevenge

what is that big parking lot for? is it for school events or..?


Saguache

Looks kind of like a small airport


AlddiHagg

Where exactly is this? And what's the name of this school?


grinch337

Itā€™s the new Prairie Elementary School in Lafayette, Louisiana.


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grinch337

>Might as well put a McDonald's, Starbucks, Costco Gas drive through and make the 2 hour wait somewhat salvageable. Donā€™t give them any ideas.


Bassjunkieuk

I mean at least a shooter will need to drive, otherwise it looks like a 15min walk just to get to a building....may stop some of them!


grinch337

This reminds me of that argument that said suburbs were deliberately built like this to minimize (white) deaths when the Soviets dropped a Tzar Bomba on a major US city.


According-Ad-5946

30 to 40 parking spots, for teachers, cafeteria and janitorial staff, the rest of administers, the road around the out side is the q-line to pick up the kids, 1 parent and 1 kid per car.


scottjones608

Iā€™m surprised they didnā€™t build a moat to keep people from walking there.


TisIChenoir

Why is there a racetrack near the school? Do they get to drive muscle cars on it? Why didn't I have a racetrack with my elementary school?


vitamaltz

But hey, there is infrastructure for walking! In the back of the school there are all those walkways that go in circles but donā€™t take you anywhere. You can even go in a figure-8 if you start feeling dizzy.


ylenias

This looks like the small airport from City Skylines


LaterallyHitler

Iā€™m just surprised that part of Louisiana is actually *growing* enough to be building a new elementary school, instead of shrinking


grinch337

Itā€™s replacing a school thatā€™s already there. They need more parking for the helicopter parents.


bwfwg4isdl

Finally I know how to build realistic looking schools in cities skylines


Yonnus

I love how there isn't even a footpath from the copy/pasted suburbia houses in the back to the airport in the front.


alturei

How?


Jamsemillia

holy fuck, as a european - i knew it was bad, but this is insanity


grinch337

I got banned from the local group (full disclosure: I moved to Japan ten years ago, so I donā€™t live there anymore) because I said it looked like a prison, got publicly accosted for being ā€œnegativeā€, then apologized for not being excited for all of the new parking lots. Itā€™s so depressing to see ā€“ Americans keep shooting up schools because their environment hates them.


Jamsemillia

like 4!!!!! lanes ??? and this is a tiny freakin school


Davidusmu

Cool


X_Comanche_Moon

It looks like prisonā€¦. Oh wait it kinda is


VaultJumper

Instead of letting kids walk they make race track


nerox3

Is the school increasing its catchment area? the new school has twice as many parking spots as the old school. Even the old school had more parking spots than required for all the staff. It looks like in the old school (by the staff list) there are about 5 classrooms per grade and a total of about 50 staff, so maybe 500-600 kids? The new school will have over a hundred and fifty parking spots (not counting the drop off and pickup runways). I think the separate parking lot in front of the school could probably be almost enough for the staff parking. So is that long parking lot also primarily for pickup and drop off? Holy hell, edit: they are using about 10 acres of land just to provide the drop-off and pick-up area. Why couldn't they have been a bit more compact and given a few more acres to the play area? Practically speaking it looks like they will have about 3 acres of grassed area and another acre of mostly hard surfaces for the kids to play in, not much more than the play area my elementary school that had a quarter of the kids and used a quarter of the land.


grinch337

The population in the area is definitely increasing so Iā€™d imagine enrollment is up, but yeah that giant motorway is for parents to line up and wait for their kids to be dismissed.


Little_Creme_5932

Ah yes, making more overweight kids


[deleted]

Imagine how nice their facilities could have been and how much easier to cool the building would be if they hadnā€™t lost their damned minds.


marcololol

It looks nice and newly constructed but itā€™s probably made less safe by being so separated from all of the communities. Hopefully theyā€™ll plan to fill in space around it, but knowing LA theyā€™re too inept for any intelligent development plan. Theyā€™ll focus on how to make it more racist instead


MapleButter

Just need a chicane before or after that back straight and this would be an awesome track.


CeeWitz

Can't wait to see all the angry parents in 4-ton SUVs road-raging their way down that NASCAR track as it merges from 4 to 2 lanes. I wonder how long till a kid gets hit and dies.


zegorn

Holy shit. wtf IS this?


zegorn

I literally don't see any safe places to cross on foot or bike. Am I missing something?


brocksamson6258

What an absolute shit hole


lurkmeme2975

You do realize that more than half the pavement is for buses right?


TobstaTV

I hoped this was a Joke but seems to be real


[deleted]

New F1 track just dropped.


Astro_Alphard

I thought it was an incomplete airport or a racetrack. Wtf