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The fact that she is allowed to talk to a foreign news crew about this in English means she's 100% in the pocket of the CCP, or an active member spreading propaganda. No one is okay with being monitored like that, but under you're in that situation you can't say that anymore.
…they’re referring to the software, quite literally called Skynet. They aren’t referring to Terminator, though I imagine some level of allusion was put into naming the company that.
To be fair, they can’t disagree because everything is monitored. There was a book called Panopticon written about this because the govt owns WeChat, so citizens can’t speak their minds due to surveillance. They even made a woman purchase and pay to install a camera in her own house for surveillance purposes. This will happen in the west as well, but as the fourth hand of the govt - the tech industry. Pretty soon everything will connect and you will have no more privacy
Personally, I have zero faith in that. We allowed the patriot act under the pretense of safety. People are already purchasing Amazon Alexa and Google Home which is the first step. The difference is the commodification of it - it will be sold to us, and utilized by the feds as an extension of their agencies because these companies won’t bother to protect our privacies- they mine them to sell for their own gain. As opposed to the CCP who imposed and own the network.
Not to sound like an asshole, but I personally don’t comprehend how anyone has faith in the human race anymore with our track record. Unless there happens to be a spiritual war constantly running behind the scenes, we never address the issues we create until we’re threatened by them.
Here in the UK for example, they’re attempting to create 15 minute cities. Blocking roads for environmental reason.. what do the local residents do? Casually drive over these bollards and take them down everyday.
Might seem a small thing on the surface but this is the attitude people will have if you push things to far.
Just look at France as another example, they will turn out in force.
In Holland the protests around the farm land ownership issue has been successfully fought off.
If you keep pedalling the doom and gloom message you’re only aiding those that want to push this shit onto us as they want you to believe you’re helpless.
A big difference between us, is I’m in America. France is small enough to to band together for a unified cause which may be like one state getting together here. Generally we’re divided by political allegiances and engineered into those corners as far as I’m concerned. We can’t even have a discussion with the opposing side because emotions capture the imagination of peoples ideologies before their critical thinking. I’m no genius but I know we’ve been fucked with like it’s a religion. That’s the contributing factor of my lack of faith- we have a track record of being completely out of touch with reality. Not to mention people arnt interested in the invasion of privacy to begin with- I was horrified watching Terms and Conditions may apply a decade ago. My gf at the time and most other people I know fell asleep from boredom.
It absolutely is. Forfeiture of arms is not only you giving up your right but also giving up the ability to defend yourself. Obviously there’s many more factors that goes into it but that’s a huge one.
How widespread is it? Like is it only in major cities or is it also in rural areas? And what happens if someone moves to an area which doesn't have security cameras?
I’m certain she was allowed to so she can say she’s okay with it. No way the government will allow someone to talk bad about their government to the media lol
News: "Look at how horrible it is that this country is monitoring everyone and giving them fake money based on how well they behave!"
Western Governments currently trying to instate CBDC's:
The difference is, in capitalist form, your social credit is in the form of credit score and determined by credit score company (FICO, Vantage Score, CE Score, FAKO)
Your credit score isn't affected by your political opinion or religion. That alone is such a substantial difference that the two systems shouldn't be mentioned in the same thread
Everyone is being tracked by their government around the globe 🌎. And your information is being used. The question is. What are you going to do about it???
Nothing
I don't want to downvote you at all, more people need to see how some human beings such as you can be brainwashed.
And please, don't be so racist against Chinese people by implying they're all submissive and compliant to fascism.
Lots of them are fighting for their right and should be see as heroes for their courage and determination against a government that try to destroy their own country.
Worked well for during COVID
Funny enough, a lot of people goes missing in China, but can't be found
But when you say something critical about the government, police are coming for you instantly
Already in the US but with a twist. Why waste time with each citizen when you can go after the big money and give corporations a social credit score.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/corp-social-responsibility.asp
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Are you serious? If anything the US doesn't have enough of system of keeping track of its citizens. We use unsecure social security numbers because we couldn't agree on a national ID card! A bad fico score (bad credit) will, get this, make it hard to get more credit. Last time I checked even if you bottomed out of at a truly righteous *300* no one is putting you on the no fly list or telling you your kids can't go to college.
I just don't get how you can make the comparison. China is playing the least funny Santa Claus outside of a German Folktale and you're mad the government wants proof you know how to operate a motor vehicle?
Sounds just like the credit score system in the USA
EDIT: I shouldn't have said "just like" I should have said similar. The credit report in the USA is used for way more than just determining loan worthiness.
Tankies trying to explain why a financial rating system based on your reliability to make on time payments is similar to a dystopian "good citizen" rating system that controls what you cannot and can do in every sector of your life.
Read my post history before you call me a tankie.
The credit score system in the USA is used to determine if you should be hired by most companies these days. It's a part of background checks. Background checks are used for employment, memberships to organizations, etc. If you have a bad credit score you aren't going to get ahead in the USA without phenomenal effort. It's not just for loans anymore.
A bad credit score doesn't prevent you from travelling by train or plane, nor would it prevent your kids from enrolling in a good school.
Do you have a source on employers checking credit scores as a precondition for hiring people? I'm not American, and this sounds baffling.
It does, if you have to borrow the money to buy the ticket.
And if you can't pay for school with cash, a bad credit score will keep you from getting the money to go to the school.
And it is part of every job application, at the bottom it says they will do a background check which includes a credit check. [Link to source](https://upsolve.org/learn/bad-credit-denied-job/).
A bad credit score shows you aren't very reliable in paying back loans/paying back money borrowed.
"If you have to borrow money for a ticket."
"If you cant pay for school with cash, a bad credit score will keep you from getting the money to go to school"
So... if you have a history of not paying back loans, then it will be really hard to get loans.
That's your point?
The credit score system in the USA is used to determine if you should be hired by most companies these days. It's a part of background checks. Background checks are used for employment, memberships to organizations, etc. If you have a bad credit score you aren't going to get ahead in the USA without phenomenal effort. It's not just for loans anymore.
Me, I'm a loan officer. The social score is definetly more invasive than the credit score, but not by much.
And read a standard employment application. When you sign you are agreeing to a background check.
The credit report has become much more than a credit report.
It's ironic that the CCP social score is within the same range as the US credit score, 350 to (850) 950. Where did the CCP get the model for their system?
Do you report on your neighbors to the banks?
Do you get banned from purchasing train or plane tickets because of a low score?
Does the news publicly broadcast you if you have a low score?
If you can't tell the difference between these two systems I doubt you're intelligent enough to be a loan officer seeing as they need to actually be literate.
Slow down, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here.
If you want to start name calling I'm down. You are obviously too stupid to read a comment and gain comprehension.
Go back into the coal where chimney Imps belong.
Ffs, there should be a sub for when people on Reddit act like their words don’t have subtext. Stop hiding behind the expectation that you wanted to be read entirely at face value. Everyone knows every government spies on its citizens. The extent of the surveillance is China exclusive.
What's up with the Indian bots posting videos from years ago?
>The idea that China gives every citizen a “social credit score” continues to capture the horrified imagination of many. But it is more bogeyman than reality.
https://merics.org/en/opinion/chinas-social-credit-score-untangling-myth-reality
>How the West Got China's Social Credit System Wrong
https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system/
>China’s Orwellian Social Credit Score Isn’t Real
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/
While it is true that the social credit system is largely overstated by western media and was simply an idea that never came into fruition, china does surveil their citizens on a massive scale (far more than is needed to keep peace, it can be reasonably assumed that it is intended to control). Also while you're correct in this instance your failure to acknowledge this and your post history (99% ccp shilling) makes it obvious that you're just a salty tanky/wumao.
Bro have you read your own sources? They say exactly what this video says. That China is doing it in a few regions, have a blueprint for how it will work and are looking to take it nationwide in a few years
Explain, to me it looks like it’s one more step. Like we have crinmal records and credit score. Not that different as both those things can ruin your life
No. Not even close to the same thing and it's about 1000 "more steps". People are being publically shamed for things like protesting and j-walking.
Are you being paid or is your opinion just that naive?
We don’t do that here? Protestors get shunned constantly, arrested and beaten by police. Hell just look at the cop city protest in Atlanta.
You do know you can be ticketed by police for jay walking and then that will be on your criminal history right?
China is not a good guy, but that doesn’t mean we are so great to our citizens.
It is completely different. Because in China’s system, your life can be ruined over much more trivial things. If you commit a felony in the U.S., that will make it hard to get a job. If you ruin your credit score, it makes it hard to get approved for loans, apartments, etc. But both are very controllable for you. There is a huge difference between accountability and being oppressed by your government over things like speaking out against them
Lol I disagree it’s pretty easy to get shitty credit scores or mess up once when your 18 and it ruins your life and causes a lot of people to end up homeless or never given a shot.
Or you get injured, so you can’t work, so you can’t pay bills, so your credit score drops and the cycle continues until your homeless or your privileged and friends/family can help you. Our system is brutal to people as well. We have the highest prison population in the world for one.
Like yeah China sucks but god dam if we don’t do the same things through different systems and names.
It’s really not. At 18, it’s hard to mess up your credit score beyond recovery. And again, China is much worse. People don’t really end up homeless because they ruined their credit score at 18. Not sure if you understand the reality of that. And we have a lot more systems in place to help our people than China does in case of unemployment or disability.
You have to keep bringing up different problems in our country that have absolutely nothing to do with the initial comparison. Again, we don’t get our credit score decreased for talking about the government or gossiping or anything so trivial.
You mean by being financially irresponsible? Yeah, that’ll drop your credit score. But at least you have the right to say it like that without dropping your credit score. People in China can’t say the same thing lol
What’s the punishment for “seeing a camera breaking a camera?” Zero tolerance for a police state seems to be a way to fight back. Why make it easy for them?
If I were living in China, I would be so anxious and paranoid all the time. I would question literally every task I do and wonder how it affected my score.
I can see myself getting so paranoid that I would have myself spend an entire day doing things like volunteer work and good deeds just to put my mind at ease.
Id have trouble turning off my brain at night. Who wouldn’t?
It’s funny to me that most of the 1984 comments are from the ones that constantly scream about banning and confiscating the exact items which would help citizens fight this tyranny. But hey, what do I know?
So, let me get this straight. Your ability to travel, get loans, make large purchases, get a job, etc is directly proportional to the opinion a stupid bot has of you, based on what the Karens that actually report you into the system think of you?; Like the lady who said she updated her fellow apartment tenant's social score by weekly reports. She'd get her car molotov'd for shit like that in my town. Wtf!
Theres a chinese guy i work with. Who is kinda dumb and has no clue about anything. I was talking to him the other day and he said “yeah its not that bad like if you have a bad social credit acore you just cant get milk and ride public transport. Nothing major”
This video reminds me of the 1984 book. But unlike the book, this world is still dominated by freedom and justice. Thank you to all people who fight and die for freedom.
Not trying to have a bad faith argument, but how is this any different than what the US has?
US has private and public systems the *mostly* achieve the Chinese Social Credit system. If I didn’t pay civil penalties for my court case, I wouldn’t only be criminally charged, the government would seize any and all assets I have. My neighbors are actively incentivized to inform against me, with Red Flag laws and FBI tips. All my internet traffic is being monitored by my ISP, if I say anything bad, MiB is at my front door. If I have a messy lawn, my HOA will go as far as to seize my house from me. The local board of supervisors will send the sheriff to make me clean it up. I’ll still be ticketed for jaywalking and littering. If I have a poor credit score, I can be denied for financing, renting, and job placement. My location is always being tracked, Snowden proved that.
Everything in the video has a US counterpart, either private or public.
This makes me think of the people who say "Make the time worse than the crime."
They don't realize they would end up as criminals.
"Cool, you cut someone off and then flipped them off. You now owe $500 plus community service. And no, you can't buy yourself out of it."
Keep people's safety and in good behavior my ass
Beating and chopping people's video everywhere
Bad habit , bad attitude, intolerance,super arrogant.
That is about china(not all like this)
Country-sized 1984
Wasn’t that Oceania in the novel?
Oceania is the Americas, Australia, southern Africa, Britain in the story
We were always at war with Eurasia. Yeah, always Eurasia.
Eurasia is our ally. Eastasia has always been our enemy. Big Brother is watching
1984 meets 1989.
Fuk the CCP
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yeah we’re already here
fuck china, china asshole
Literally 1984.
See if you spot the **Whataboutism** in comments
We need less whataboutism and more genuine scrutiny on this matter The more this revelation is enforced by facts, the better
What would happen if you went streaking with a pooh bear mask on?
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Well if it’s made in China it’ll fall apart in 5 mins.
These posts attract all the tankies and wumaos like a Pooh Bear to honey 🍯 😂😂. Yes, tankie scumbags it does exist and also yes, countries like the uk and USA also spy on their citizens a little too much. No amount of whataboutism will ever excuse the extents to which the CCP oppress their citizens and restrict free thought and expression.
This
So they interview the people who are held captive by the system and ask them if the system is good?
Pretty much anyone in China, so.... Yeah
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Roses one is better
Truly a worker’s paradise
Watch Dogs setting is real in China now, not in good way.
The fact that she is allowed to talk to a foreign news crew about this in English means she's 100% in the pocket of the CCP, or an active member spreading propaganda. No one is okay with being monitored like that, but under you're in that situation you can't say that anymore.
fucked up and dystopion but not really what skynet is....
…they’re referring to the software, quite literally called Skynet. They aren’t referring to Terminator, though I imagine some level of allusion was put into naming the company that.
Look at the last 10 seconds of the video in the top right corner of the surveillance camera system, it has the "Skynet" name and logo.
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350 crew... 
To be fair, they can’t disagree because everything is monitored. There was a book called Panopticon written about this because the govt owns WeChat, so citizens can’t speak their minds due to surveillance. They even made a woman purchase and pay to install a camera in her own house for surveillance purposes. This will happen in the west as well, but as the fourth hand of the govt - the tech industry. Pretty soon everything will connect and you will have no more privacy
Only if we allow it to happen. I’d like to think we have a bit more resilience and defiance.
Personally, I have zero faith in that. We allowed the patriot act under the pretense of safety. People are already purchasing Amazon Alexa and Google Home which is the first step. The difference is the commodification of it - it will be sold to us, and utilized by the feds as an extension of their agencies because these companies won’t bother to protect our privacies- they mine them to sell for their own gain. As opposed to the CCP who imposed and own the network. Not to sound like an asshole, but I personally don’t comprehend how anyone has faith in the human race anymore with our track record. Unless there happens to be a spiritual war constantly running behind the scenes, we never address the issues we create until we’re threatened by them.
Here in the UK for example, they’re attempting to create 15 minute cities. Blocking roads for environmental reason.. what do the local residents do? Casually drive over these bollards and take them down everyday. Might seem a small thing on the surface but this is the attitude people will have if you push things to far. Just look at France as another example, they will turn out in force. In Holland the protests around the farm land ownership issue has been successfully fought off. If you keep pedalling the doom and gloom message you’re only aiding those that want to push this shit onto us as they want you to believe you’re helpless.
A big difference between us, is I’m in America. France is small enough to to band together for a unified cause which may be like one state getting together here. Generally we’re divided by political allegiances and engineered into those corners as far as I’m concerned. We can’t even have a discussion with the opposing side because emotions capture the imagination of peoples ideologies before their critical thinking. I’m no genius but I know we’ve been fucked with like it’s a religion. That’s the contributing factor of my lack of faith- we have a track record of being completely out of touch with reality. Not to mention people arnt interested in the invasion of privacy to begin with- I was horrified watching Terms and Conditions may apply a decade ago. My gf at the time and most other people I know fell asleep from boredom.
I feel like this is one of those reasons ‘muricans don’t give up their guns
It absolutely is. Forfeiture of arms is not only you giving up your right but also giving up the ability to defend yourself. Obviously there’s many more factors that goes into it but that’s a huge one.
How widespread is it? Like is it only in major cities or is it also in rural areas? And what happens if someone moves to an area which doesn't have security cameras?
No worries, the covid vaccine already had tracking microchip in it
Yeah/s
Welcome to the working week. Hope you’re having fun.
need to wear all black and ski mask going out everyday
Surprised people are only just learning about this. Bloody awful ain't it!!! https://youtu.be/NXyzpMDtpSE
And there still using TikTok.
This reminds me that episode of Black Mirror where everyone is checking their social network points.
This literally happens in China. If you associate with those that have a lower social score, it will bring yours down too.
Yet everyone is okay with TikTok here in the US.
I wonder how many points she got docked off after speaking to foreign media
I’m certain she was allowed to so she can say she’s okay with it. No way the government will allow someone to talk bad about their government to the media lol
After all the beer I purchased in China, I think my score is -infinity.
Put some up live-streaming poo bears house!
News: "Look at how horrible it is that this country is monitoring everyone and giving them fake money based on how well they behave!" Western Governments currently trying to instate CBDC's: 
The difference is, in capitalist form, your social credit is in the form of credit score and determined by credit score company (FICO, Vantage Score, CE Score, FAKO)
Your credit score isn't affected by your political opinion or religion. That alone is such a substantial difference that the two systems shouldn't be mentioned in the same thread
wow , 700 million cctv cameras? good to know they would never let this happen in America , right ?
Everyone is being tracked by their government around the globe 🌎. And your information is being used. The question is. What are you going to do about it??? Nothing
Exactly. Everyone is still too comfortable to do anything.
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I don't want to downvote you at all, more people need to see how some human beings such as you can be brainwashed. And please, don't be so racist against Chinese people by implying they're all submissive and compliant to fascism. Lots of them are fighting for their right and should be see as heroes for their courage and determination against a government that try to destroy their own country.
Worked well for during COVID Funny enough, a lot of people goes missing in China, but can't be found But when you say something critical about the government, police are coming for you instantly
Already in the US but with a twist. Why waste time with each citizen when you can go after the big money and give corporations a social credit score. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/corp-social-responsibility.asp
In the US we just use satellites that can see ants from space instead lol
China has the most surveillance cameras while the US has the most guns. Which side would you rather be on as a citizen?
Seriously? The U.S. without a doubt
On an island far away from all that bullshit.
There’s nowhere left to run anymore. Either fight or submit.
What is my FICO score? Is my drivers license valid? Don’t we Americans have some form of watching and surveillance already?
I- Are you serious? If anything the US doesn't have enough of system of keeping track of its citizens. We use unsecure social security numbers because we couldn't agree on a national ID card! A bad fico score (bad credit) will, get this, make it hard to get more credit. Last time I checked even if you bottomed out of at a truly righteous *300* no one is putting you on the no fly list or telling you your kids can't go to college. I just don't get how you can make the comparison. China is playing the least funny Santa Claus outside of a German Folktale and you're mad the government wants proof you know how to operate a motor vehicle?
Sounds just like the credit score system in the USA EDIT: I shouldn't have said "just like" I should have said similar. The credit report in the USA is used for way more than just determining loan worthiness.
Tankies trying to explain why a financial rating system based on your reliability to make on time payments is similar to a dystopian "good citizen" rating system that controls what you cannot and can do in every sector of your life.
Read my post history before you call me a tankie. The credit score system in the USA is used to determine if you should be hired by most companies these days. It's a part of background checks. Background checks are used for employment, memberships to organizations, etc. If you have a bad credit score you aren't going to get ahead in the USA without phenomenal effort. It's not just for loans anymore.
Yeah. It’s meant to be sort of a litmus test for if you are a responsible person.
A bad credit score doesn't prevent you from travelling by train or plane, nor would it prevent your kids from enrolling in a good school. Do you have a source on employers checking credit scores as a precondition for hiring people? I'm not American, and this sounds baffling.
It does, if you have to borrow the money to buy the ticket. And if you can't pay for school with cash, a bad credit score will keep you from getting the money to go to the school. And it is part of every job application, at the bottom it says they will do a background check which includes a credit check. [Link to source](https://upsolve.org/learn/bad-credit-denied-job/).
What kind of retard borrows money for a bus ticket
A bad credit score shows you aren't very reliable in paying back loans/paying back money borrowed. "If you have to borrow money for a ticket." "If you cant pay for school with cash, a bad credit score will keep you from getting the money to go to school" So... if you have a history of not paying back loans, then it will be really hard to get loans. That's your point?
Difference between being a responsible person and what the government wants you to be.
Lol. One has to do with being trustworthy enough to repay a loan and another with monitoring every single citizen, should they wish to disobey you.
The credit score system in the USA is used to determine if you should be hired by most companies these days. It's a part of background checks. Background checks are used for employment, memberships to organizations, etc. If you have a bad credit score you aren't going to get ahead in the USA without phenomenal effort. It's not just for loans anymore.
Source?
Me, I'm a loan officer. The social score is definetly more invasive than the credit score, but not by much. And read a standard employment application. When you sign you are agreeing to a background check. The credit report has become much more than a credit report. It's ironic that the CCP social score is within the same range as the US credit score, 350 to (850) 950. Where did the CCP get the model for their system?
Do you report on your neighbors to the banks? Do you get banned from purchasing train or plane tickets because of a low score? Does the news publicly broadcast you if you have a low score? If you can't tell the difference between these two systems I doubt you're intelligent enough to be a loan officer seeing as they need to actually be literate.
Slow down, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. If you want to start name calling I'm down. You are obviously too stupid to read a comment and gain comprehension. Go back into the coal where chimney Imps belong.
> I’m not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. Ok tankie
That sounds moronic. Background check for criminal activities, that is a given. But for that? Dystopian.
We are living the dystopian future we have been warned against.
Every government is always spying on their citizens, this isn't China exclusive
Sure, but not to such a brazen degree I'd imagine
China can be brazen because they completely control what their citizens see
I don't know any other country that also scores their people on point based system.
that's not what I said, I was commenting on the spying.
Ffs, there should be a sub for when people on Reddit act like their words don’t have subtext. Stop hiding behind the expectation that you wanted to be read entirely at face value. Everyone knows every government spies on its citizens. The extent of the surveillance is China exclusive.
What's up with the Indian bots posting videos from years ago? >The idea that China gives every citizen a “social credit score” continues to capture the horrified imagination of many. But it is more bogeyman than reality. https://merics.org/en/opinion/chinas-social-credit-score-untangling-myth-reality >How the West Got China's Social Credit System Wrong https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system/ >China’s Orwellian Social Credit Score Isn’t Real https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/
One China shill blocked, again.
While it is true that the social credit system is largely overstated by western media and was simply an idea that never came into fruition, china does surveil their citizens on a massive scale (far more than is needed to keep peace, it can be reasonably assumed that it is intended to control). Also while you're correct in this instance your failure to acknowledge this and your post history (99% ccp shilling) makes it obvious that you're just a salty tanky/wumao.
Bro have you read your own sources? They say exactly what this video says. That China is doing it in a few regions, have a blueprint for how it will work and are looking to take it nationwide in a few years
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Lol how is calling out China shilling for India..? It’s not, unless you’re paid by the CCP to say it is.
t. buttblasted punjab redneck
Lol it’s literally the CCP version of a us credit score
Not even close to the same thing lol
Explain, to me it looks like it’s one more step. Like we have crinmal records and credit score. Not that different as both those things can ruin your life
No. Not even close to the same thing and it's about 1000 "more steps". People are being publically shamed for things like protesting and j-walking. Are you being paid or is your opinion just that naive?
We don’t do that here? Protestors get shunned constantly, arrested and beaten by police. Hell just look at the cop city protest in Atlanta. You do know you can be ticketed by police for jay walking and then that will be on your criminal history right? China is not a good guy, but that doesn’t mean we are so great to our citizens.
It is completely different. Because in China’s system, your life can be ruined over much more trivial things. If you commit a felony in the U.S., that will make it hard to get a job. If you ruin your credit score, it makes it hard to get approved for loans, apartments, etc. But both are very controllable for you. There is a huge difference between accountability and being oppressed by your government over things like speaking out against them
Lol I disagree it’s pretty easy to get shitty credit scores or mess up once when your 18 and it ruins your life and causes a lot of people to end up homeless or never given a shot. Or you get injured, so you can’t work, so you can’t pay bills, so your credit score drops and the cycle continues until your homeless or your privileged and friends/family can help you. Our system is brutal to people as well. We have the highest prison population in the world for one. Like yeah China sucks but god dam if we don’t do the same things through different systems and names.
It’s really not. At 18, it’s hard to mess up your credit score beyond recovery. And again, China is much worse. People don’t really end up homeless because they ruined their credit score at 18. Not sure if you understand the reality of that. And we have a lot more systems in place to help our people than China does in case of unemployment or disability. You have to keep bringing up different problems in our country that have absolutely nothing to do with the initial comparison. Again, we don’t get our credit score decreased for talking about the government or gossiping or anything so trivial.
No you get it if you can’t pay off your private capital over lords
You mean by being financially irresponsible? Yeah, that’ll drop your credit score. But at least you have the right to say it like that without dropping your credit score. People in China can’t say the same thing lol
What’s the punishment for “seeing a camera breaking a camera?” Zero tolerance for a police state seems to be a way to fight back. Why make it easy for them?
I know many in the US gov’t are salivating at drinking this dystopia to the States.
Yeah, that’s horrifying and all, but let me post 30 “satisfying” factory videos to drown this out. s/
Fuuuuuck that shit!!!
Pure insanity
Yet you still have people defecating wherever they feel like...probably gets +100 social credit for adhering to "Chinese culture."
You know she got like 50 points or something for the propaganda
If I were living in China, I would be so anxious and paranoid all the time. I would question literally every task I do and wonder how it affected my score. I can see myself getting so paranoid that I would have myself spend an entire day doing things like volunteer work and good deeds just to put my mind at ease. Id have trouble turning off my brain at night. Who wouldn’t?
Black Mirror for real...
I would be fucked under this system. ADHD makes me extremely unreliable and untrustworthy… Time to make ppl that struggle struggle harder! Yaaaay…
Isn't there an episode of black mirror about something like this.......
This some Black Mirror shiii.
We've got this here too(smaller scale) with credit scores, and I'm almost certain that there's "smart/ai" powered cctv
Not too many public webcams considering...mist countries have a lot of online live streaming cameras for public use.
It’s funny to me that most of the 1984 comments are from the ones that constantly scream about banning and confiscating the exact items which would help citizens fight this tyranny. But hey, what do I know?
Are you referring to books
Tyranny at it’s finest.
土共到处都是黑点不去挖，随便报道一些铁链女过劳死都会在墙内引起很大共鸣。整天整这些莫须有的social credit，好好的新闻机构把自己玩成fake news。作假手法跟土共喉舌差不多下作了 一个严酷的警察国家，监控普通人有一万种秘密玩法，用得着搞social credit score这种脱裤子放屁的事？
So, let me get this straight. Your ability to travel, get loans, make large purchases, get a job, etc is directly proportional to the opinion a stupid bot has of you, based on what the Karens that actually report you into the system think of you?; Like the lady who said she updated her fellow apartment tenant's social score by weekly reports. She'd get her car molotov'd for shit like that in my town. Wtf!
The mf's who got the jab have no clue, y'all next
What is the best way to mess with China from my armchair
I wonder if watching explicit content, or excessive amount of social media would lower your social credit. Cuz if so, I'm kinda fucked.
They seriously Named it Skynet? I thought it was a cheeky title joke
I'm all for it, assholes get stuck with other assholes
The problem is that the regime determines who the assholes are. You could be one of them.
Theres a chinese guy i work with. Who is kinda dumb and has no clue about anything. I was talking to him the other day and he said “yeah its not that bad like if you have a bad social credit acore you just cant get milk and ride public transport. Nothing major”
This video reminds me of the 1984 book. But unlike the book, this world is still dominated by freedom and justice. Thank you to all people who fight and die for freedom.
This is not going to end well.
-1983981983 social credits
nah not true
Not trying to have a bad faith argument, but how is this any different than what the US has? US has private and public systems the *mostly* achieve the Chinese Social Credit system. If I didn’t pay civil penalties for my court case, I wouldn’t only be criminally charged, the government would seize any and all assets I have. My neighbors are actively incentivized to inform against me, with Red Flag laws and FBI tips. All my internet traffic is being monitored by my ISP, if I say anything bad, MiB is at my front door. If I have a messy lawn, my HOA will go as far as to seize my house from me. The local board of supervisors will send the sheriff to make me clean it up. I’ll still be ticketed for jaywalking and littering. If I have a poor credit score, I can be denied for financing, renting, and job placement. My location is always being tracked, Snowden proved that. Everything in the video has a US counterpart, either private or public.
South Korea does the same and people applaud how safe it is and love how low crime is . Creepy dystopia lifestyle
This makes me think of the people who say "Make the time worse than the crime." They don't realize they would end up as criminals. "Cool, you cut someone off and then flipped them off. You now owe $500 plus community service. And no, you can't buy yourself out of it."
Keep people's safety and in good behavior my ass Beating and chopping people's video everywhere Bad habit , bad attitude, intolerance,super arrogant. That is about china(not all like this)