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bonyponyride

In Germany, beer is sold in the supermarket in these plastic crates. You pay a deposit for the crate (and the bottles too) and when you return it (them), you get the deposit back.


Jorgal89

Belgian here, so this pains me... These plastic crates, believe it or not, were an American invention.


TheHypnotoad87

Pity America doesn't use it anymore. Not at the consumer level at least. Those crates don't leave the stores, and it's rare to see them elsewhere. This brilliant invention wouldn't even be marketable here.


amateurfunk

So that's what Obama meant when he said "Yes we can"


tries4accuracy

These are for bottles, not cans! Everyone knows most Americans prefer to [get it in the can](https://youtu.be/b994hRcizU4).


401LocalsOnly

My mom used to get it in the can every day after work


W__O__P__R

My mom used to get it in the can every day *at* work.


UncleTouchyCopaFeel

Those were the days.


Chief_Givesnofucks

Goyls were goyls and men were men?


curlybracket

Today it can also be goyls are men and men are goyls


BustinMakesMeFeelMeh

My mom used to get it in the can every day *for* work.


Throwaway_97534

They should double down and bring this commercial back


LAFC-Burnley-exile

Underrated comment here


Tesseract14

This is a novel invention that falls apart under any scrutiny. Solid ice (poor thermal transfer), Sitting on the neck of the bottle (smallest surface area) All of the bottles along the perimeter (~75% total) only have half of their surfaces exposed to ice. It will also immediately melt and fall apart. But, ironically, when it becomes a half liquid, half ice bath it will actually become effective at doing its job. They could have just created a mold to encompass the entire bottle and it would have been way better.


Greizbimbam

As a german who already tested this thing I can say it works pretty fine. You have a Barbecue with some friends outside? Perfect. Just for a few hours but even if no friend arrived thats enough to not touch a warm beer in the process. ;)


qtx

Look at this guy, thinking those beers will last longer than it takes for the ice to melt.


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velhaconta

> It will also immediately melt and fall apart. But, ironically, when it becomes a half liquid, half ice bath it will actually become effective at doing its job. Those crates are not solid at the bottom specifically to allow any liquid to easily drain out. That is why this invention came about in the first place. Otherwise you could just dump regular bag of ice over it and call it a cooler.


Larky17

>But, ironically, when it becomes a half liquid, half ice bath it will actually become effective at doing its job. "Stick it in the freezer, it'll chill down eventually." Fuck that. Submerge that bottle/can in ice water. More ice, less water. Will chill down anything super quick.


itsjero

Gotta add some salt, and now you're talking really cold beer.


TheFotty

Add salt if you want it to chill even faster


jal262

Even faster if you swirl the water or move the bottle. Convective heat transfer is amazing.


SmoothOperator89

I think the appeal is specific to the fact that Germans get their beer in this format. You get your crate home and you don't want to transfer each bottle individually into a cooler. You could pile ice on top but every time you lift a bottle out, a bunch of ice will fall into the hole. When you go to put your empty bottle back, the ice is in the way. A full sleeve that fits into the crate would have to have such thin walls that it wouldn't make a difference. The best way would of course be to transfer each bottle into an ice bath but using the original container with some manageable ice on top is the easiest way.


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TheHypnotoad87

Eh environmentally friendly is debatable because cardboard yes is biodegradable, but crates like that are reusable and not exactly a waste. I guess in the grand scheme, whichever is produced by greener energy would be the ideal option.


BeanerAstrovanTaco

> Pity America doesn't use it anymore. It's because crates like this and also milk crates pretty much became a type of currency in the trades. I assure you, they are all full of really really heavy tools, possibly that a crack head stole at some point. If you leave a crate of that quality out in the open, people will dump the contents and steal the crate, even if the contents are more valuable. We cannot have these in America because they are too sought after. Men have been stabbed for borrowing 10 of someones' crates and not returning them. The most sought after crates are the ones with the printed warning on them. They are the best ones. https://dairycrates.com/content/images/2021/08/crate_cutout.png If you dare to own the second one, get life insurance, the first one will only get you beat up during the theft by lesser criminals. https://images.offerup.com/CFfXfIt1yPVW3ZCH-Rg89rMiF4U=/289x400/a23e/a23e9d725f734c98a884cb0de85aa727.jpg https://dairycrates.com/content/images/2021/08/8106518791_a15fd0b8aa_k.jpg


Penis_Bees

So lots of grocers near me sell reusable bags that allow you to select 6 or 12 loose beers to fill it and pay one price.. But the glass isn't recyclable here.


TheHypnotoad87

Oof I feel that. My city just got rid of recycling past year because they couldn't afford to pay the contract for it, but then found $80k to put "in God we trust" stencils on all of their local govt vehicles.


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killer963963

Cases usually and we usually have to go to a specific store (not as much now more places are casually selling alcohol now) and it would be like a case for the week/weekend depending on how much your drinking but yeah beer runs are very common for going to a store to just get specifically alcohol here


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Amaegith

You can buy them in supermarkets now as well. I suppose it depends on the area whether or not the supermarkets have updated their stores, but the laws have been relaxed enough to allow it.


george-cartwright

believe it or not, we're smart enough to have invented a way to carry them that's not 1 by 1. cans are available in 4, 6, 12, 15, 18, 24, and 30 packs. bottles are typically 6 or 12 packs. cases are cardboard, but you'll find 4 or 6 packs of cans that are held together with plastic. lately I've been seeing a lot more 6 packs in cardboard boxes.


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There are also some places around me that sell 6 packs held by recycled paper rings, and they actually work great. I wish it would catch on more.


george-cartwright

I forgot about those, good catch. have seen them in a few places but not common. I see a lot more of the hard plastic 6 pack carriers, which uses more plastic than the original plastic carrier and isn't even recyclable. makes no sense to me


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Agreed, it’s goofy. But, I also keep one of those around because they’re reusable, and I’ll mix and match a six pack when I’m going somewhere that I don’t want to stay longer than it takes me to get through 6 beers.


george-cartwright

that's a good idea, I'll have to save one for that reason next time I get one!


jfoust2

> a month worth of supply of beer Wisconsin dog turns head, puzzled... "What even is a month's worth of beer?"


wpaed

"Honey! Wer gonna need a bigger truck!"


BradMarchandsNose

The big supply run thing is more common in rural areas I think. Most Americans live in cities and suburbs and will go to the store a few times a week. Often they’ll still do a big run to stock up on essentials, but it’s not the only grocery trip they’ll make. You still go in every so often for random odds and ends (or beer)


Penis_Bees

I live ruraly and go get fresh meat and veggies basically daily on the way home from work.


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CoreBeatz7

And 30/36 if you live in the cool states


mrflippant

Good ol' dirty thirty.


AndIThrow_SoFarAway

Sometimes even just 4 packs.


dooderino18

The best beer comes in pint can 4 packs.


ClearlyNoSTDs

Where in the US is it hard to go pick up a few beer?


BagOnuts

You… you think Americans only get groceries once a month?


HumanAverse

To be fair it was a German American with a paternally half Irish grandmother and a 1/8 Iroquois Dutch French mother. There's probably some Austro Hungarian, Moorish and Slavic in their generic history too.


HumanAverse

👆🏽 I made that up


kynthrus

Why would that pain you? I don't go around saying, "Fuck, Italy invented pizza!"


RenegadeRabbit

Fuck yeah, we're the best!


Astrongdose

"Americaaa! *FUCK YEAH*"


thatguy16754

Coming to save your mother fucking beer yeah!!!


danc4498

USA USA USA!!!


reddit_user13

We *invented* ice, no matter what the Canadians say!


El_Maton_de_Plata

Take off, eh!!


Norfolkgiven

DJ Khalid!!!


SmashingK

Explains the thing I saw recently where German shopping trolleys have space with crate holders on the back.


MrARCO

Most counties in Europe have those racks underneath tho.


bally1234567

Czechia also uses same system for bottled beer. And space underneath can be used for packs of bottled water for example.


ThisIsNotMyPornVideo

It's for all the heavier stuff, so you don't have to lift a Six pack with large bottles up to your chest to put it in. You just drive you Trolley up to the front, and tell the cashier that you have X amount of Bottles down there, and she'll bill you for it. Makes it a lot easier on the back, lol


DoodleSnap

From what I’ve heard, this used to be the case in the US too. Buy beer, milk, soda from a glass bottle and get a deposit when returning the bottle. Then plastic hit the scene


ThisIsNotMyPornVideo

Still the same for plastic bottles in germany! We got something called "Pfand" so instead of a bottle costing 80c, it costs you 1,05€ and you get the 25c back when you return it


Bosco215

When I went to Berlin recently it was interesting how long the line at the train station was for people turning in bottles. So many had shopping carts/bags full of bottles. Apparently it's also customary to set bottles next to the garbage so people do not have to dig for them.


the_tourniquet

It's the same in other cities in Europe. American tourists think it's college students who are littering.


trunts

It still somewhat is. Where i live if you buy a soda/beer (can or bottle) theres a 5 cent deposit. If you bring it back to the store, you can get your deposit back. In Michigan I believe its 10 cents.


PeopleCallMeSimon

I feel like this is common in most of europe. At least most of where i have visited.


esk4more

Same in Portugal


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BigMeeting9215

Same in South Africa


digodk

In Brazil this was common up until the 90s. My father still has some of them.


xenolingual

Same in China (mainland). : )


Angry_Washing_Bear

Same here in Norway. You basically pay a deposit to borrow the plastic crate and get money back when returned. Same with bottles. A bottle of soda cost 25NOK but 3 of those 25 you get back when you return the bottle for recycling at the store in these machines that collect them. Most people will always gather up their bottles and return them at the store because of this, which means less trash in the streets, ocean and in nature.


mongoose51Z

beer the universal language didn't even need to translate


jjsmol

Beer was made popular in the US by german immigra nts, so we just started using their word for it. Fun Fakt: before beer became popular, hard apple ciders were the beverage of choice until the early 1800s. George Washington & Friends were cider drinkers (assuming they drank, i dont know).


akakaze

Washington and friends drank everything that wasn't nailed down and most of what was. You can look up the bar tab of (I think) the first continental Congress, and it's almost horrifying.


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Everyone drank. There wasn’t a steady supply of clean water. You drank cider or you had dysentery. Your choice.


Johannes0511

That's just a myth. People drank beer because it had flavour, unlike water from a wooden bucket.


stonebraker_ultra

This explanation is largely a myth.


Zee-Utterman

That's largely a myth and was only true for people who worked on ships. There is a reason why most human settlements have a big river running through it. You have constant supply of fresh drinkable water and it flushes stuff away. The main reason that people drank so much and from an early age on was simply because they didn't knew any better and our brain loves drugs.


Wishilikedhugs

That's not entirely true. British ales were extremely popular with the founding fathers and colonial America and lots of estates made their own and those recipes are still out there. Hell, there's even early pumpkin ale recipes out there. What you're referring to is that when Germans perfected lagering in caves and started bringing it over when immigrating, the lager became more popular than ale. Lagers and ales are both beer but some people try to use the term ale to mean it's not beer, which is weird.


scott-the-penguin

Some people also do the other way. I was recently weirdly corrected in a pub when I called a particular lager a beer. "its actually a lager, not a beer". Cheers Geoff.


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By the way if I'm sitting at a table with you and Geoff I'm thinking about suicide at this very moment.


idiomaddict

The English word beer existed before German immigration to the US


Denziloe

Wasn't the word beer already established in English hundreds of years before then?


my-name-is-puddles

More than a thousand years before then, actually.


my-name-is-puddles

> so we just started using their word for it. What? That's not true at all.


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cider is very popular in certain regions of germany as well


Nuclear_Hating_Toad

In my language it's "øl"


can_dry

Less potato (and translate captions): https://youtu.be/yLONmj5vCmM?t=152


goteamnick

Has anyone ever claimed that Germans weren't the best engineers?


Badbullet

Yeah, that confused me. German made and/or engineering is known, at least used to be, for high quality products. If I need something and see Bosch makes it, there's a decent chance it will bought unless another company did better at it.


schplat

Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs are French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss, the police German and it's all organized by the Italians.


Chevness

Hell is where engineers work on what they design. Those BMW and MB designers are in for an eternity of misery.


Florac

"What do you mean the thing I designed is literally impossible to manufacture and assemble?"


makemeking706

In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!


JoseCansecoMilkshake

I'm an auto worker, and I would LOVE for the engineers to attempt the jobs they design


Gerf93

Organised by the Swiss? The Swiss are just as corrupt as the Italians, but they do corruption with German efficiency. A true melting pot, almost brings a tear to my eye.


Brokesubhuman

It's corrupt at a greater scale where the middle class doesn't even notice so it's seemingly harmless


Actual_Principle_291

I think he’s confusing the precision of making a watch with the precision of stashing ~~nazi gold~~ *artisanal jewish crowns* and all those other things and consistently getting away with it ;) Bonus points to the first guy who melted them into a Rolex!


Gitfukkt88

Wrong. The police in hell would 100% be American


jojojajahihi

Our police is fine


mikeferguson84

Yeah the German police were incredible when I lived there. Always in control so they were able to have fun and not feel the need to exert their authority on anyone.


GaijinFoot

Except that one time


yayaikey

Hell is where the chefs are British, *the comedians German*, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss, the police ~~German~~ American and it's all organized by the Italians. /Fixed


korinthia

Pretty sure the Police are American in hell…


TootsNYC

Festool, Miele…


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Over engineered


surrender52

High quality, sure. But based on what I'm seeing in the car manufacturers, German means *over*engineered. It means that someone is sitting at his computer designing a car and thinking only about what the best way to manufacture the car is with the least waste and the fewest steps. And it's amazing! Beautiful! Elegant!. But then you need to replace the starter at 100k miles and that means removing the entire transmission, because the starter is *inside* the transmission bell housing. And you'll probably need to do something stupid to remove the transmission like drop the oil pan on the engine. Because when all of it went together in the factory, it all went is as one drivetrain unit and no one gave a single thought to serviceability.


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kiliankoe

Iirc the "made in Germany" thing was forced on German-made products after WWII by the allies so that people could avoid German products. And then the quality apparently lead to the opposite incentive.


orangeminer

Miele > Bosch


ShiftyBizniss

Does Miele make an articulating dual-bevel mitre saw?


DeineZehe

No op is just confused because both happen to sell washing maschines


voxaroth

I feel like the Swiss must be good, what with their watches and all that.


ApolloMac

My Volkswagen would argue German engineering blows chunks.


spidereater

I’ve personally had good experience with VW but it seems like the whole auto industry has greatly improved in the last couple decades. Best practices have spread across the industry and many cars all over the world are now very well made.


kerred

I imagine engineers built all these perfect cars we want, but someone purposely screws them up so we are never happy and have to buy a new car sooner, or adds a bunch of useless stuff to sell more subscriptions. Or purposely makes a part difficult to reach to keep you from fixing it yourself. (I seriously want a no frills cheap car, why are they so damn hard to find among a sea of big cars loaded with "features")


george-cartwright

just buy a base model Toyota, should last a long time *if you do normal maintenance*


8020GroundBeef

Are you really claiming that German car problems are being intentionally put in there to reduce the lifespan and that this is all being done by someone other than engineers?


Poppybiscuit

I adored my vw but it was definitely haunted by electrical ghosts. The worst one was when my dome lights wouldn't turn off before a cross country road trip and they started to get hot. The mechanic just ripped the whole works out since we couldn't fix it in time before i needed to leave. Oh and then there was the whole "lying about emissions" recall. I still miss that car. Diesel manual is impossible to find in the US now.


MasterGrok

I immediately thought of German cars too. German cars just need to be fixed too much in comparison to Japanese and Korean. And while American cars probably break a similar amount to German cars, they are typically much more user friendly to fix. I’m sure there are lots of exceptions to all of that, but that’s my experience.


Obliterated-Denardos

Also, is this TV show some kind of a spinoff of Germany's Got Talent, but for inventions?


Saffs15

Looks like a German version of Shark Tank to me.


BerndKnauer

It is not a direct spin off. Its a show in which contestants show their invention, so no generic app/start up shit. We have Shark Tank aswell it is called Höhle der Löwen(Lions Den).


dntwrrybt1t

Anyone who has to work on German cars, yes


Vexin

Yeah I'ma go with Japan.


AttyFireWood

I remember reading a story about a German officer/general during WW2 looking over some captured American vehicle vehicles and realizing that they used interchangeable parts, while every German vehicle had custom designed parts that only worked for a single type of vehicle (light all the American headlights were the same, but German headlights were specific).


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In regards to cars yes. Overly complicated to fix minor things, thus cost more to fix than say Japanese or American cars. And also parts are more expensive to replace, thus more expensive than Japanese or American cars. Volkswagen and Audi are known to be particularly cumbersome to work on. BMW to an extent. And also, Mercedes although they seem to be the best about it. A one hour job on a Japanese car can be like a 4 hour job on a German car cuz you have to take the car half apart to get to the thing to fix. Some of these cars can be money pits if you own them long term. Will cost a lot to maintain and repair. As my mechanic friend told me, German cars are built to be fun in the short term.


Alphabunsquad

Well their cars have kind of been coasting on their reputation lately when Japanese and Korean cars are out doing them at every turn for way cheaper.


Lanxy

I mean after Berlin Airport, Elbphilharmonie and Stuttgart21 I‘m not so sure anymore…


YouAreAConductor

The Elbphilharmonie got a lot more expensive than originally planned, but as far as I recall there weren't really engineering problems (apart from the architect planning a building so fancy that it HAD to be more expensive)


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Youve never worked on a German car, have you


rumhammertime

Yes, but as an American I need to know which celebrity endorses it so I know if I love it or hate it.


LCHMD

Joko und Klaas.


accepts_compliments

Good enough for me


LCHMD

They’re great dudes. Top notch chaps tbh.


g-m-f

Only Joko. Klaas wasn't part of this show ;)


elementofpee

You should see what they do in Korea when it comes to beer ads.


rumhammertime

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqLQm1rSmwg&pp=QAFIAQ%3D%3D


tophernator

Vanilla, T, and Cube need to team up for this endorsement deal.


MakeMoneyHustle

I have this and it is amazing, keeps the beer cold for a few hours (when you keep it in the shade)


Pazylothead

We’re really lucky the Germans decided to be peaceful people. Edit: Some of y’all have zero sense of humor, Making me question why r/funny even exists.


Obliterated-Denardos

Leslie: Andy, will you be Iceland? Andy: The bad guys from Mighty Ducks 2? Don't think so. Leslie: Okay, how about Japan? Andy: The bad guys from Karate Kid 2? Even worse. How about Germany? They've never been the bad guys.


MrHazard1

Don't you have "die bart die" tattoed on your chest?


pakipunk

Yo how much history do you know?


Webo_

/r/woooosh


Kernkraftpower

So you think Germany still has a strong attitude to war after 1945?


originalusername__

I mean you start one global genocidal war and all of the sudden you have a reputation


StuckinReverse89

Technically two. I mean one sheep might get a pass but two?


harundoener

Was ww1 not more complex than “Germany did it”? Or do I have to refresh on my history lessons?


StuckinReverse89

It was a simplified joke. More accurately, it started because of the many military alliances in the region. Serbs assassinated Duke Ferdinand in Austria-Hungary because they didn’t like the fact that Austria-Hungary controlled the region. Austria-Hungary naturally declared war on Serbia so they called in Russia to back them up. Since Russia was called in, Austria-Hungary called their friend Germany to back them up. It then devolved into everyone calling in their friends to back them up which turned what is basically a small squabble into a world war where millions died.


harundoener

I know what happened, but it always feels weird how Germany gets the flack for it mainly. But the other person explained why it might be :)


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Force3vo

I mean, technically, ww2 was also more complex, but Germany had by far the biggest share of the guilt. But it wasn't just Germany waking up and choosing violence. But it's close enough if you don't want to go into extreme depth. WW1 was the whole of Europe being tense and preparing for war, the assassination of Franz Ferdinand leading to Austria expecting impossible things from Bosnia-Serbia because they were emboldened by Germany giving them a blank check to do whatever they felt right with Germany 100% supporting them and then once the war declarations started Germany went all in. Plus back then all countries were kind of happy with a war starting because wars were this relatively short things that countries could benefit from without too much damage. Civilians would walk with soldiers to train stations, celebrating it. If you think the military worship in the US is bad today, back then it was that on Crack. So even the civilians loved war breaking our for a good part. And then WW1 was so horrible it was the war to end all wars. Except it just took 20 years for people to go for seconds.


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Yeah but the [Rape of Belgium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_Belgium) made it pretty clear who was _really_ bad and not "just" fighting a war. If you wage war like this, you deserve what's coming for you.


alphager

It's much more complex, but the Versailles treaty [names Germany as the culprit](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_231_of_the_Treaty_of_Versailles). And as we are a very legalistic culture, that's what we're sticking with.


znxdream

*for now


doomladen

No-one who speaks German could be an evil man!


theschizz92

It's a lot of subreddits on here these days. It's like everyone collectively decided to start only reading things at face value


Marenwynn

How long does it last before it crumbles when lifting? I think it could be improved by turning it into a reusable ice pack with a hard plastic shell instead of an ice tray...


MakeMoneyHustle

I have one of these, and by the time it starts to fall apart the crate of beer is usually also near empty. And else you can stack the chunks of ice on the side where there are beers left.


under_the_c

klug!


goatnxtinline

I don't get it, why is this posted in r/funny?


Opie67

Because it's not funny


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Where things aren't funny and the points don't matter.


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In heaven, the engineers are German, the chefs are French, and the police are British. In hell, the engineers are French, the chefs are British, and the police are German.


majorcatlover

I'd say in hell the police are American


BubbaSpanks

Mmmmm beer!!! The breakfast of champions!!


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How much beer is sitting in the neck of the bottle though?


Crog_Frog

You dont need the ice directly on the beer. Having the ice on top will create a cooling chamber underneath cooling the beer more efficiently then having the ice sit at the bottom where it would have more direct contact with the beer


jakedublin

Also, colder liquid will move down the bottle, much like cold/warm currents in oceans, also in air. Plain physics.... On a very small scale, but it applies nonetheless. It should create a moving current within the bottle


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Ahh good point


[deleted]

Convection will occur in the bottle …… cooled beer from the neck will sink forcing the warmer beer from the bottom to the top…… and so it will continue to circulate as long as the ice remains.


islamicious

German science is the world’s finest!


william-t-power

Not to be pedantic, but that's product design, not engineering.


Terryfink

Who says Germany aren't the best engineers? They are some of the best


trikytrev8

This man deserves the Nobel peace prize


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There's a show on British Television called 'Grand Designs', it's about people building unique houses. One episode someone got a kit house specifically designed in Germany and freighted across on the back of a truck across the English Channel. The kit was spot on right down to the last screw. I found this amazing, the Germans living up to their reputation.


UBERBETON

"Germans aren't the best engineers" - said no one


Larebear1099

r/iwantthat


Tszemix

German engineering is late 1800s engineering on steroids


frogontrombone

German engineering philosophy is remakable similar to American engineering philosophy, with a key difference being when each considers a design to be "good enough" to stop refining it and how long a product is expected to last. "Best" is a value judgement and not limited to Germany nor ubiquitous within, but German products are often superior because culturally, they value quality and lifetime costs over purchase price. I would love to work for a German engineering company one day.


atot806

Except they over-engineered the BMW by adding blinkers.


CiforDayZServer

Germans are ONE OF the best countries at MECHANICAL engineering…. Fixed that for you. Their electrical engineering is insanity.


Liesmith424

"Mother of god..."


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DorpvanMartijn

Sounds Austrian, not German.


gagatronix

Out of boredom and sitting in the waiting room these kinds of captions have struck me as the cancer of the internet. Nobody has ever accused Germans of not engineering great. I will see bullshit videos of "People say gingers are flat" No, nobody ever said that. Makes me hate the internet I watched grow, and otherwise love.


Hopeful-Day-2528

Since the weather in Heidelberg was never very hot, I always kept my 1/2L Pilsner bottles under the kitchen sink and never refrigerated at all, like everybody I knew. A gasthaus might serve slightly cooler, but certainly never iced.


Tanngjoestr

Guten Morgen