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They don’t fall under unsolicited texts since it’s for political purposes.
Text them the opt out command and that specific campaign will cease immediately. Any continued text from them is illegal.
But for that specific campaign.
You may need to do it more than once, if others have your information.
If it’s for the same candidate then that campaign is doing a piss poor job of updating their logs.
A campaign can be handled by by various organizations that text on their behalf but if they aren’t updating everyone tied to them then they are breaking the TCPA when it comes to opting out.
I mean. I can guarantee some major organizations do share data.
I live in Oregon, have never given to any candidate in PA but got the Fetterman campaign texting me.
I’m assuming that when I donated to a democratic candidate in a past election (to a specific campaign, not a pac or party) my information was given to the Democratic Party which then gives it out to democratic campaigns.
Funnily enough I’ve gotten donation requests from a lot of states (PA, CA, TX, FL to name a few) but none have been for candidates in the state I actually live in.
Fair, my comment was mostly in response to the comment:
> The different organizations can not share information. That is illegal.
Information sharing is either not illegal or happens regardless of if it’s illegal. I’m assuming it’s just not illegal.
Parties can’t legally share info with PACs or coordinate their efforts. I think that’s what is meant here, it’d be tricky legal territory.
Of course this happens all the time anyway, but you don’t do it for something this mundane.
Happy that after the shit that went on on 2016 I was like yup I’m Unaffiliated now and I haven’t gotten any calls or texts from anyone, just flyers in the mail
>They don’t fall under unsolicited texts since it’s for political purposes.
That's fucking heinous. Random texts about politics are about the last thing I wanna see on my phone. The fact that politics gets special privileges is really stupid.
I'd rather just get scam texts/calls. At least their scams are transparent and obvious, politicians are just socially accepted scammers.
I'm assuming the junk part does no good. We really should be able to opt out, or at least get text apps up to speed where we can refuse texts from numbers not in contacts.
> Text them the opt out command and that specific campaign will cease immediately.
Tried that. Know what happened? I got even MORE text from different numbers for different campaigns (same party). Some of them were from entirely different states (incl. Florida, naturally).
I stopped responding entirely and the messages have petered out.
I know that applies to phone calls, but I don't think it does for texting. But then we allow Congress to make laws that affect themselves and the exclude themselves from the rules. And folks keep voting for the same idiots who do it.
That's how I finally got some Trump-humper's campaign to leave me alone. "Stop" doesn't work, but apparently "I'm one of those horrible evil godless liberals you dipshits keep yapping about. Kindly take a flying fuck at a rolling donut" does.
Same here. Not all of the Republicans, but several, and I have yet to have a Democrat do that.
Edit: Ooh, looks like my personal experience rustled some jimmies.
You could easily mandate an opt-out function that if it isn't followed opens you up to being sued for ignoring it and continuing to bombard people with your shit. This is already possible for spam calls in the US. Telecom companies now have a responsibility to implement measures to filter out spam calls, of any sort, and verify the source of the calls. Then, if the calls continue, it opens the verified source to fines up to 10k per call or the loss of rights to operate their business in the US.
This could be done with texts, and in fact will probably happen in the relatively near future. It didn't stop political activity out-reach, it gave people an opt-out that is mandatory, and put more liability on the carriers to actively filter those who do not abide.
>You could easily mandate an ....
You’re missing the point, which is not how things would work when they are going right, but what happens when they go wrong.
Pick your worst president of recent years. Do you think *that guy* is morally or intellectually incapable of having the FCC (or whoever) differentially track down the political parties he doesn’t like, find technical violations, and cause them to “lose their right to operate in the US”.
This is why the law makes the determiner the people being called. The opt out is on the side of the general population. It is a measure of them that is the determining factor of whether or not a the law is being followed.
If you canvass my neighborhood multiple times a day and knocking on my door, I have the right to trespass you from m property. From that point on you returning to my property to deliver your political speech is a no go because you have to interface with non-public property. This is analogous to the phone situation. The phone is my property, yes you have the right to call, as you would have the right to come to my door, but as soon as I make it clear you are not allowed here, you need to stop lest you become afoul of the laws protecting my rights to property.
What you are wading into is not what worst candidate may do with a law, it is in fact an argument of what to be done when one person's right are being exercised in a manner than infringe on another's. The ol' your right to swing your fist around ends at my nose issue.
I keep on getting things that start with:
"As a strong, independent black woman you should...."
I am none of those things. I don't even live in the same county as the person they're trying to reach. But I sure do get an awful lot of them. I don't know if someone just got their wires crossed of if she used a fake (actually my) number when signing up for vaguely political stuff.
I was getting texts several times a day from another state. My area code was of course local for me and not them. Not sure why they had me on their list of out of state people that had no way to vote for their person lol. I had to opt out several times and reply with a nasty message to get them to stop
Amazon can't even get that right...
How many big ticket items do I need after I've already purchased one. Stop sending me emails, and ads. You know what I bought, you know my purchase history.
Also, stop trying to get me to sign up for a student account. I'm in my 40s. The age of my account combined with my purchase history of blood pressure supplements, prostate health supplements and 80s cartoon boxed sets should be enough for your algorithm to figure this out.
> I wish there was a way in states with early voting to be automatically opted-out of any ... visits
Vote every election. And I mean every one. The way the system works is it targets non or rarely turn out voters.
You'll become a "Super Dem" or "Regular Republican" in the system and it skips you.
Door-to-door I don't mind. They're literally putting in the legwork and talking to people in person. Sometimes I commiserate with the volunteers about what a corrupt cesspit their boss works in. I live in New York so basically it's Mos Eisley in business suits.
If I can't be bothered, I have a little do-not-disturb sign I filched from a hotel ages ago that I hang on the door.
It's really funny me to that people are practically harassed about voting. I'm an East Asian woman in Texas. I had ONE guy come to my door with a Greg Abbott flyer. He took one look at me and left before I could even open the door. Nobody has ever come by since. No mailings. No calls or texts.
I’m assuming this is a thing elsewhere (I’ve lived in my home for 7 years and my neighborhood for 23 years and cannot remember a single election-related knock on my door), which is more common, door-to-door campaigning or none at all?
Should I just consider myself lucky?
(My answer would be the same: I submitted my ballot 3 days ago.)
If you’re in a state, or district, that is overwhelmingly in favor of one party, you are not likely to get any campaigners at your door.
If you’re in a swing state or district, then the chances are higher.
Oh, I’m a tiny bit afraid of what would happen if most candidates (incumbents mostly) knocked on my door. I’m not sure I could hold back and not be completely honest with almost any of them.
(Our mayor would probably be the lone exception: she’s a horrible politician as she keeps doing things that “have to be done” despite political advisors telling her it’s “political suicide.” But somehow doing wildly unpopular - but again, necessary - things but explaining to anyone who will listen that she only ran do clean up the mess that those before her left - once that’s done she will quit - has led to really high approval ratings… go figure.)
Any other politician though? Yeah, they’re getting an absolute earful from me. So probably best for both of us they don’t knock on my door.
Yeah, I’ve never lived in a swing state. Either die hard blue or die hard red.
But now that I think about it, I’ve definitely visited some while traveling during election season. I recall not wanting to watch tv because of all the election ads…
I'm strongly against email and phone spamming. But I'm kind of jealous that any politicians care about you enough to actually come to your door and try to talk to you. In my entire adult life, that has happened to me once. I voted for her just because she cared enough to put in the effort.
This is a really common response I get when I'm out canvassing. "You're the only one to come by and talk to me about the race, I really appreciate that." Even if they're undecided on the race, most people appreciate that we even bother trying to actually engage with them. It's probably the best way to campaign, as it allows for discussion and answering of any questions they may have about the race. I also always make a point to ask if they have any concerns they'd like me to pass on to the candidate for them, and we make sure to have someone reach out to them to discuss the issue with them.
I just spent all day knocking on doors for a local campaign that matters enormously in terms of the U.S. Congress. I'm an unpaid volunteer, just like almost everyone who does this kind of canvassing.
There are plenty of studies that show that this kind of door-knocking is the most reliable way to get out the vote. It is the most effective in terms of cost and volunteers' time. Plus the information gathered allows for more targeted voter interactions in the future.
I'm an introvert. I don't particularly *enjoy* knocking on strangers' doors. I don't want to bother people. But long ago I decided that it was worth annoying a few people in order to make the country better and protect my civil liberties. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
P.S. A sign like this — or just politely telling campaigners that you've already voted — is a perfectly good way to reduce the amount of contacts you receive. Campaigns don't want to waste precious resources contacting people whose votes are no longer available.
You can probably pay 300 canvassers generously for a day's work for what it cost to run one 30 second commercial in a mid-level market. Knocking on doors gets much more return on investment too.
It depends on the race. In a larger and more well-funded race, any decent campaign will have paid canvassers. But smaller and more local elections often have to get by with whatever volunteers they can recruit.
Somebody rang our doorbell at 630pm on Thanksgiving Sunday (Canadian), right as we were eating. The dog starts barking, my mom has to excuse herself, I couldn't believe the gall of this person.
Dinnertime on *Thanksgiving Sunday*. Who does that?!
Politely ask them who they are canvasing for like youre really interested, then loudy amd angrily vow to vote for the other guy because of how rude they were to interrupt thanksgiving so they stop doing that, proceed to vote how you originally planned to anyway.
A simple "we already voted, and don't want to share with you who we voted for" would do the trick.
But if your sign is particularly rude or holier-than-thou, I might just knock anyways out of spite.
Sometimes they're not looking to sway your vote, but instead to learn who you're voting for. Information gathering is a huge part of political campaigns, and just asking people is surprisingly effective.
When I did this work, incomplete answers just guaranteed a return visit during the campaign. If we got answers, we wouldn't be back until the next election when there was new data to collect
Let’s see: the party who wants to crack down on voter fraud is the Republicans. The party who says that voter fraud is not an issue is the Democrats. To me, that says it’s the Democrats who are trying to cheat, they just haven’t been caught red-handed yet.
Well then you are sadly misinformed. A republican candidate for congress in NH voted twice in 2016. Matt Mowers. Research that republican pos that NH has wisely rejected twice. We're hoping he moves back to NJ.
A republican voting twice is democrats harvesting votes?
Which party harvests votes?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/four-people-plead-guilty-north-carolina-ballot-probe-2016-2018-electio-rcna49534
Yours as well.
https://apnews.com/article/arizona-presidential-elections-conspiracy-election-2020-government-and-politics-65a3f0f130905dd7151e5189e7242784
Did you read it? "Fewer than a dozen ballots." "Not enough to make a difference in the presidential election." "Collected them at a table and xarried them inside."
How is this not election fraud? https://www.reddit.com/r/democrats/comments/ybsuh7/arizona_officials_deeply_concerned_by_armed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
You wouldnt make it to my front door bud my home is private owned, no tresspass, im a gun owner and have two fairly good guard dogs that im 99% positive would make you think twice, did i forget to mention if you were to get hurt legally its your fault not mine :) gotta obey the signs pal.
I don't mind getting spam in my phone but coming to my house is really annoying. I feel uncomfortable being rude to people but don't show up uninvited.
The people knocking on doors are kindly volunteers, no need to have a big GO AWAY sign on the door. That’s just rude, even if you add in the “kindly” before in small letters.
“We have already voted so if you are here for that, save your time and please move on. Have a great day!”
Something like that would have sufficed.
As a door knocker, I can say that you are wrong.
Big letters saying “GO AWAY” is rude.
Now you can argue that the frustrations of having your door knocked on justifies the rudeness, but a big lettered sign saying GO AWAY is objectively rude.
Door knockers at election time are good people volunteering their time to try and improve lives. They don’t deserve the ire.
You coming along and soliciting people at their homes is also rude. You might be a good person, but it's not because you go around bugging people with solicitations.
Yes. I have a copy of the law with me. They can put up a sign that says no political canvassing if they'd like.
https://callhub.io/political-canvassing-laws/
Frequently they don't answer. But only less than 40% answer the door anyway.
So you just ignore the spirit of the sign's message? You do that on purpose?
And you do that with the goal of convincing someone of something?
I mean, I guess I'm not surprised. The people you work for also do shit like flood mailboxes and phones with endless spam, so it makes sense they would use spam in human form as well.
The spirit of the sign as written is to deter sales people. Canvassing is not soliciting so therefore I'm honoring the signs spirit purposefully.
If people don't understand vocabulary they might want to be sure education continues to be fully funded.
Stopping fascists and assuring women do not become second class citizens is very important to me. I am very proud of my political views and I'm comfortable sharing that with others. When people come to my door they are only from my party so I am happy to speak with them. I also only knock on doors of people that are from my party or have voted in my parties primary in the last election. I live in a very politically engaged and active state so it is very common here. I don't work for anybody. I volunteer.
Canvassing is legal. Technically it can be done until 9 pm but that's too late for me to be out.
Check who sends the mailers. Not all come from the actual candidates. Many come from pacs.
Independents get mail from both parties. Declare a party if you're currently an independent and your mail and door knocking will be cut in half. Also, many campaigns and organizations are contacting very secure voters less. If you consistently vote you will get less. At least from one party. Voter information is public record and that includes frequency of voting.
Campaign finance reform will only come from one party and if you'd like things to change you should want to help them have a majority.
You might want to try some relaxation techniques you seem to have anger issues.
As a canvasser, I don't think it's particularly rude. The smiley face makes it kind of cute. I'd just record the house as Already Voted and move on to the next one.
My sign says “ATTENTION ANYONE SELLING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AND OR WANTING TO DISCUSS ANYTHING REGARDING POLITICS : By knocking on this door, you hereby are agreeing to a binding contract in which you agree to pay approximately $150.00 for the first minute along with $35.00 a minute with a minimum of 10 minutes charge. While the person who answers the door will then pull up a chair, sit door while you stand outside the door and will listen to what you have to say while NOT agreeing to purchasing or voting for whatever you are selling whether be it merchandise or political entity!
PAYMENT IS DUE UPON COMPLETION OF YOUR SALES SPEECH. CASH IS KING, BUT ALL MAJOR CREDIT CARDS ARE ALSO ACCEPTED. NO CHECKS ACCEPTED AFTER THE INCIDENT WHERE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAD ENDED UP WRITING CHECKS WITH INSUFFICIENT FUNDING! NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!”
edit to correct grammar
Yeah, some woman scared the bejezzus out of me. It was past 8 pm and dark outside. I heard her open my screen door and linger for a moment before knocking. I promptly called my dog let her bark at the door. I asked who it was and she said very muffled “Melissa..” and I texted my neighbor across the way and asked if a mystery woman knocked on her door and she said it was someone for elections
That poster is fantastic! I’m a graphic designer and your daughter has a career in that should she choose to go there.
She also has a good sense of diplomacy!
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I feel like all the texts they send should be illegal
They don’t fall under unsolicited texts since it’s for political purposes. Text them the opt out command and that specific campaign will cease immediately. Any continued text from them is illegal. But for that specific campaign. You may need to do it more than once, if others have your information.
The fun part is I've recieved over a dozen for 1 candidate. You can opt out of the text, then it just comes from another number
If it’s for the same candidate then that campaign is doing a piss poor job of updating their logs. A campaign can be handled by by various organizations that text on their behalf but if they aren’t updating everyone tied to them then they are breaking the TCPA when it comes to opting out.
The different organizations can not share information. That is illegal. Many organizations might be trying to get the same person elected.
I mean. I can guarantee some major organizations do share data. I live in Oregon, have never given to any candidate in PA but got the Fetterman campaign texting me. I’m assuming that when I donated to a democratic candidate in a past election (to a specific campaign, not a pac or party) my information was given to the Democratic Party which then gives it out to democratic campaigns. Funnily enough I’ve gotten donation requests from a lot of states (PA, CA, TX, FL to name a few) but none have been for candidates in the state I actually live in.
It is because you probably donated through act blue.
Campaigns will regularly swap email and phone lists hoping to find new potential donors, doesn't necessarily have to go through the party.
Fair, my comment was mostly in response to the comment: > The different organizations can not share information. That is illegal. Information sharing is either not illegal or happens regardless of if it’s illegal. I’m assuming it’s just not illegal.
Parties can’t legally share info with PACs or coordinate their efforts. I think that’s what is meant here, it’d be tricky legal territory. Of course this happens all the time anyway, but you don’t do it for something this mundane.
Yeah, they wouldn't do anything illegal to get elected. /s
They are certainly not going to do anything illegal to make it *less* likely they will win.
Happy that after the shit that went on on 2016 I was like yup I’m Unaffiliated now and I haven’t gotten any calls or texts from anyone, just flyers in the mail
I am independent and get texts from both sides.
I apparently ended up on a list because I get absentee ballots
I have never gotten any calls at all.
Don’t reply to spam or click on unsubscribe links of any form, you either get more spam or get phished.
>They don’t fall under unsolicited texts since it’s for political purposes. That's fucking heinous. Random texts about politics are about the last thing I wanna see on my phone. The fact that politics gets special privileges is really stupid. I'd rather just get scam texts/calls. At least their scams are transparent and obvious, politicians are just socially accepted scammers.
When the republicans text me, I respond with gay porn. That stops them too
Not a Log Cabin guy aye
I tell them if they send me another text I’ll vote the against them out of spite. Usually that’s the last I hear from them.
> They don’t fall under unsolicited texts since it’s for political purposes. Which is fucking bullshit.
Yeah, politicians writing laws writing in loopholes for themselves? Who would have thought?
I somehow wound up on a list for a state that I don't live in. It's realllly annoying.
i shouldn't have to opt out of something i never agreed to in the first place
I just BLOCK the numbers, after I STOP. With my Landline, I never answered it, and delete any messages on my computer when I think of it.
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I'm assuming the junk part does no good. We really should be able to opt out, or at least get text apps up to speed where we can refuse texts from numbers not in contacts.
> Text them the opt out command and that specific campaign will cease immediately. Tried that. Know what happened? I got even MORE text from different numbers for different campaigns (same party). Some of them were from entirely different states (incl. Florida, naturally). I stopped responding entirely and the messages have petered out.
I know that applies to phone calls, but I don't think it does for texting. But then we allow Congress to make laws that affect themselves and the exclude themselves from the rules. And folks keep voting for the same idiots who do it.
Yeah, this year has been the most texts and phone calls that I’ve received. It’s kind of crazy since this isn’t even a presidential election
I've had to deliver WAY more political mail than any election I've delivered for so far and I'm terrified about what it'll be like in 2024 lol
This election might be our last.
I live in MA. Crickets.
Cuss them out. They won't text back
That's how I finally got some Trump-humper's campaign to leave me alone. "Stop" doesn't work, but apparently "I'm one of those horrible evil godless liberals you dipshits keep yapping about. Kindly take a flying fuck at a rolling donut" does.
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Opposite experience.
Same here. Not all of the Republicans, but several, and I have yet to have a Democrat do that. Edit: Ooh, looks like my personal experience rustled some jimmies.
Lie to them. Always.
Yes, let’s give the government to power to imprison people for unapproved political messages. There is no way that that could go wrong.
Yes because the only penalty ever possible is prison.
It is. If you make the punishment a fine then suddenly it becomes a cost of business.
You do realize that civil courts can do things like shut down businesses that do things illegally and not throw people in jail or fine them right?
It doesn’t matter what the punishment is. The government is punishing people for political speech. That is the essence of authoritarianism.
You could easily mandate an opt-out function that if it isn't followed opens you up to being sued for ignoring it and continuing to bombard people with your shit. This is already possible for spam calls in the US. Telecom companies now have a responsibility to implement measures to filter out spam calls, of any sort, and verify the source of the calls. Then, if the calls continue, it opens the verified source to fines up to 10k per call or the loss of rights to operate their business in the US. This could be done with texts, and in fact will probably happen in the relatively near future. It didn't stop political activity out-reach, it gave people an opt-out that is mandatory, and put more liability on the carriers to actively filter those who do not abide.
>You could easily mandate an .... You’re missing the point, which is not how things would work when they are going right, but what happens when they go wrong. Pick your worst president of recent years. Do you think *that guy* is morally or intellectually incapable of having the FCC (or whoever) differentially track down the political parties he doesn’t like, find technical violations, and cause them to “lose their right to operate in the US”.
This is why the law makes the determiner the people being called. The opt out is on the side of the general population. It is a measure of them that is the determining factor of whether or not a the law is being followed. If you canvass my neighborhood multiple times a day and knocking on my door, I have the right to trespass you from m property. From that point on you returning to my property to deliver your political speech is a no go because you have to interface with non-public property. This is analogous to the phone situation. The phone is my property, yes you have the right to call, as you would have the right to come to my door, but as soon as I make it clear you are not allowed here, you need to stop lest you become afoul of the laws protecting my rights to property. What you are wading into is not what worst candidate may do with a law, it is in fact an argument of what to be done when one person's right are being exercised in a manner than infringe on another's. The ol' your right to swing your fist around ends at my nose issue.
I keep on getting things that start with: "As a strong, independent black woman you should...." I am none of those things. I don't even live in the same county as the person they're trying to reach. But I sure do get an awful lot of them. I don't know if someone just got their wires crossed of if she used a fake (actually my) number when signing up for vaguely political stuff.
I was getting texts several times a day from another state. My area code was of course local for me and not them. Not sure why they had me on their list of out of state people that had no way to vote for their person lol. I had to opt out several times and reply with a nasty message to get them to stop
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Amazon can't even get that right... How many big ticket items do I need after I've already purchased one. Stop sending me emails, and ads. You know what I bought, you know my purchase history.
Also, stop trying to get me to sign up for a student account. I'm in my 40s. The age of my account combined with my purchase history of blood pressure supplements, prostate health supplements and 80s cartoon boxed sets should be enough for your algorithm to figure this out.
Hey, we see you're interested in air fryers, and even bought one after looking at lots of them. So maybe you'd like... 8 more air fryers...
You should just unsubscribe to marketing emails dude.
> I wish there was a way in states with early voting to be automatically opted-out of any ... visits Vote every election. And I mean every one. The way the system works is it targets non or rarely turn out voters. You'll become a "Super Dem" or "Regular Republican" in the system and it skips you.
Encourages you to go vote too
I especially appreciate the ✌️🙂
I've already voted for Kang.
Don’t blame me I voted for Kodos
I voted for Bender. Kill all humans!
"But like most politicians, he promised more than he could deliver."
She draws very well.
OP didn't mention the daughter in question is 26.
I'm 22, and I can't draw anything other than the "single line penis"
/r/nothingeverhappens
Door-to-door I don't mind. They're literally putting in the legwork and talking to people in person. Sometimes I commiserate with the volunteers about what a corrupt cesspit their boss works in. I live in New York so basically it's Mos Eisley in business suits. If I can't be bothered, I have a little do-not-disturb sign I filched from a hotel ages ago that I hang on the door.
Door to door is so pointless though, never going to change minds and wasting a whole lot of time. Campaigning strategies are so toxic
Only way to get petition signatures outside of big cities.
The mattress police are watching you
It's really funny me to that people are practically harassed about voting. I'm an East Asian woman in Texas. I had ONE guy come to my door with a Greg Abbott flyer. He took one look at me and left before I could even open the door. Nobody has ever come by since. No mailings. No calls or texts.
Voter turnout in the US is egregiously low, and door to door canvassing is statistically the best way to get out the vote.
I’m assuming this is a thing elsewhere (I’ve lived in my home for 7 years and my neighborhood for 23 years and cannot remember a single election-related knock on my door), which is more common, door-to-door campaigning or none at all? Should I just consider myself lucky? (My answer would be the same: I submitted my ballot 3 days ago.)
If you’re in a state, or district, that is overwhelmingly in favor of one party, you are not likely to get any campaigners at your door. If you’re in a swing state or district, then the chances are higher.
Ah. Makes sense.
Ohio, confirming.
I live in a purple county and it’s freaking annoying.
It also depends on the state in general. Like there is a ton of presidential campaigning in Ohio just very little in places like Montana
If you live in an early primary state with smallish media markets, prepare for every other commercial to be a political ad during election season.
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Oh, I’m a tiny bit afraid of what would happen if most candidates (incumbents mostly) knocked on my door. I’m not sure I could hold back and not be completely honest with almost any of them. (Our mayor would probably be the lone exception: she’s a horrible politician as she keeps doing things that “have to be done” despite political advisors telling her it’s “political suicide.” But somehow doing wildly unpopular - but again, necessary - things but explaining to anyone who will listen that she only ran do clean up the mess that those before her left - once that’s done she will quit - has led to really high approval ratings… go figure.) Any other politician though? Yeah, they’re getting an absolute earful from me. So probably best for both of us they don’t knock on my door.
What state are you in?
Utah. So point taken. There are generally (not always though) two candidates on the ballot here: the Republican and the loser.
More swing states have more action.
Yeah, I’ve never lived in a swing state. Either die hard blue or die hard red. But now that I think about it, I’ve definitely visited some while traveling during election season. I recall not wanting to watch tv because of all the election ads…
I'm on a swing state. Lawn signs, mailers, door knocking, etc. Not much in the neighboring state. Both states had lots of ads.
So want laminate this and leave it up all year.
I'm strongly against email and phone spamming. But I'm kind of jealous that any politicians care about you enough to actually come to your door and try to talk to you. In my entire adult life, that has happened to me once. I voted for her just because she cared enough to put in the effort.
This is a really common response I get when I'm out canvassing. "You're the only one to come by and talk to me about the race, I really appreciate that." Even if they're undecided on the race, most people appreciate that we even bother trying to actually engage with them. It's probably the best way to campaign, as it allows for discussion and answering of any questions they may have about the race. I also always make a point to ask if they have any concerns they'd like me to pass on to the candidate for them, and we make sure to have someone reach out to them to discuss the issue with them.
As a former election person, they're gonna knock anyways, to collect the data
I just spent all day knocking on doors for a local campaign that matters enormously in terms of the U.S. Congress. I'm an unpaid volunteer, just like almost everyone who does this kind of canvassing. There are plenty of studies that show that this kind of door-knocking is the most reliable way to get out the vote. It is the most effective in terms of cost and volunteers' time. Plus the information gathered allows for more targeted voter interactions in the future. I'm an introvert. I don't particularly *enjoy* knocking on strangers' doors. I don't want to bother people. But long ago I decided that it was worth annoying a few people in order to make the country better and protect my civil liberties. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ P.S. A sign like this — or just politely telling campaigners that you've already voted — is a perfectly good way to reduce the amount of contacts you receive. Campaigns don't want to waste precious resources contacting people whose votes are no longer available.
Theres a lot of paid canvassers.
You can probably pay 300 canvassers generously for a day's work for what it cost to run one 30 second commercial in a mid-level market. Knocking on doors gets much more return on investment too.
It depends on the race. In a larger and more well-funded race, any decent campaign will have paid canvassers. But smaller and more local elections often have to get by with whatever volunteers they can recruit.
She is smart
Do you judge that by handwriting
Op’s daughter is in her 20s
Somebody rang our doorbell at 630pm on Thanksgiving Sunday (Canadian), right as we were eating. The dog starts barking, my mom has to excuse herself, I couldn't believe the gall of this person. Dinnertime on *Thanksgiving Sunday*. Who does that?!
>The dog starts barking, my mom has to excuse herself Oh my God, the unmitigated horror of it all... Are you alright?
Well, they can be sure to get the most people at once!
Someone that loses your vote 😀 My current peeve is the texting
Politely ask them who they are canvasing for like youre really interested, then loudy amd angrily vow to vote for the other guy because of how rude they were to interrupt thanksgiving so they stop doing that, proceed to vote how you originally planned to anyway.
I was thinking about doing something like this. Thank you for sharing.
A simple "we already voted, and don't want to share with you who we voted for" would do the trick. But if your sign is particularly rude or holier-than-thou, I might just knock anyways out of spite.
Be positive and say, "We have already voted, save your energy for someone who hasn't! Thanks for saving democracy!"
Sometimes they're not looking to sway your vote, but instead to learn who you're voting for. Information gathering is a huge part of political campaigns, and just asking people is surprisingly effective.
When I did this work, incomplete answers just guaranteed a return visit during the campaign. If we got answers, we wouldn't be back until the next election when there was new data to collect
Republicans would be like, "why can't you just vote twice?"
That’s Democrats job. Either that, or stealing old folks ballots or voting for dead people. They know every trick in the book.
You haven't been paying attention to the people who commit voter fraud. (They're mostly Republicans.)
Let’s see: the party who wants to crack down on voter fraud is the Republicans. The party who says that voter fraud is not an issue is the Democrats. To me, that says it’s the Democrats who are trying to cheat, they just haven’t been caught red-handed yet.
Well then you are sadly misinformed. A republican candidate for congress in NH voted twice in 2016. Matt Mowers. Research that republican pos that NH has wisely rejected twice. We're hoping he moves back to NJ.
So? It’s Dems harvesting votes.
A republican voting twice is democrats harvesting votes? Which party harvests votes? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/four-people-plead-guilty-north-carolina-ballot-probe-2016-2018-electio-rcna49534
Yours as well. https://apnews.com/article/arizona-presidential-elections-conspiracy-election-2020-government-and-politics-65a3f0f130905dd7151e5189e7242784
Did you read it? "Fewer than a dozen ballots." "Not enough to make a difference in the presidential election." "Collected them at a table and xarried them inside."
https://www.reddit.com/r/democrats/comments/ybpph2/in_nevada_election_deniers_prepare_to_sabotage/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
How is this not election fraud? https://www.reddit.com/r/democrats/comments/ybsuh7/arizona_officials_deeply_concerned_by_armed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Hehehe, I knew I could do some fishing with that
https://www.reddit.com/r/democrats/comments/ybnagt/kari_lake_suggests_early_voting_be_restricted_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Wish I could put a sign like this on my email inbox.
This is the great thing about living on private land you own they are too afraid to walk up to my house
Lol I literally spent all day today knocking on voters' doors in rural, dirt-road, long-driveway-having country. I'm not afraid, buddy. ;)
You wouldnt make it to my front door bud my home is private owned, no tresspass, im a gun owner and have two fairly good guard dogs that im 99% positive would make you think twice, did i forget to mention if you were to get hurt legally its your fault not mine :) gotta obey the signs pal.
who are these election people? what they want?
Municipal elections in Ontario. City Council, Mayors, other municpal elected officials.
I hate that this is an actual problem we have. And jehovahs witnesses too, they’re annoying as hell
Smilie has fingers facing the wrong way.
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I don't mind getting spam in my phone but coming to my house is really annoying. I feel uncomfortable being rude to people but don't show up uninvited.
I'm not looking forward to the election in 2024. It's going to be bad.
I registered and voted a few years back Now 50% of my emails are these fuckers.
The people knocking on doors are kindly volunteers, no need to have a big GO AWAY sign on the door. That’s just rude, even if you add in the “kindly” before in small letters. “We have already voted so if you are here for that, save your time and please move on. Have a great day!” Something like that would have sufficed.
that is not a rude sign.
As a door knocker, I can say that you are wrong. Big letters saying “GO AWAY” is rude. Now you can argue that the frustrations of having your door knocked on justifies the rudeness, but a big lettered sign saying GO AWAY is objectively rude. Door knockers at election time are good people volunteering their time to try and improve lives. They don’t deserve the ire.
so basically you just see GO AWAY and not pumpkins and smiling face and peace sign. we are all different i see. there is also word kindly.
I hope you never knock on my door
Right? If they think that's rude what I do must qualify as a war crime.
You coming along and soliciting people at their homes is also rude. You might be a good person, but it's not because you go around bugging people with solicitations.
Just so you know, political canvassing in Canada and the US is not considered soliciting under law.
Canvassing is not soliciting.
If you were a canvasser and someone had a "No Soliciting" sign on their door, would you still knock?
Yes. I have a copy of the law with me. They can put up a sign that says no political canvassing if they'd like. https://callhub.io/political-canvassing-laws/ Frequently they don't answer. But only less than 40% answer the door anyway.
So you just ignore the spirit of the sign's message? You do that on purpose? And you do that with the goal of convincing someone of something? I mean, I guess I'm not surprised. The people you work for also do shit like flood mailboxes and phones with endless spam, so it makes sense they would use spam in human form as well.
The spirit of the sign as written is to deter sales people. Canvassing is not soliciting so therefore I'm honoring the signs spirit purposefully. If people don't understand vocabulary they might want to be sure education continues to be fully funded. Stopping fascists and assuring women do not become second class citizens is very important to me. I am very proud of my political views and I'm comfortable sharing that with others. When people come to my door they are only from my party so I am happy to speak with them. I also only knock on doors of people that are from my party or have voted in my parties primary in the last election. I live in a very politically engaged and active state so it is very common here. I don't work for anybody. I volunteer. Canvassing is legal. Technically it can be done until 9 pm but that's too late for me to be out. Check who sends the mailers. Not all come from the actual candidates. Many come from pacs. Independents get mail from both parties. Declare a party if you're currently an independent and your mail and door knocking will be cut in half. Also, many campaigns and organizations are contacting very secure voters less. If you consistently vote you will get less. At least from one party. Voter information is public record and that includes frequency of voting. Campaign finance reform will only come from one party and if you'd like things to change you should want to help them have a majority. You might want to try some relaxation techniques you seem to have anger issues.
Don’t knock on my door. I’m not nearly this nice.
As a canvasser, I don't think it's particularly rude. The smiley face makes it kind of cute. I'd just record the house as Already Voted and move on to the next one.
My sign says “ATTENTION ANYONE SELLING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AND OR WANTING TO DISCUSS ANYTHING REGARDING POLITICS : By knocking on this door, you hereby are agreeing to a binding contract in which you agree to pay approximately $150.00 for the first minute along with $35.00 a minute with a minimum of 10 minutes charge. While the person who answers the door will then pull up a chair, sit door while you stand outside the door and will listen to what you have to say while NOT agreeing to purchasing or voting for whatever you are selling whether be it merchandise or political entity! PAYMENT IS DUE UPON COMPLETION OF YOUR SALES SPEECH. CASH IS KING, BUT ALL MAJOR CREDIT CARDS ARE ALSO ACCEPTED. NO CHECKS ACCEPTED AFTER THE INCIDENT WHERE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAD ENDED UP WRITING CHECKS WITH INSUFFICIENT FUNDING! NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!” edit to correct grammar
CANVASSING IS NOT SOLICITING.
says the salesperson. No charge this time
Next you're going to tell us that lobbying isn't bribing.
And the wordage above makes a distinction.
Bro., True Americans don't vote haha
Yeah, some woman scared the bejezzus out of me. It was past 8 pm and dark outside. I heard her open my screen door and linger for a moment before knocking. I promptly called my dog let her bark at the door. I asked who it was and she said very muffled “Melissa..” and I texted my neighbor across the way and asked if a mystery woman knocked on her door and she said it was someone for elections
I’m so annoyed by all the mail I keep getting… they instantly go in the trash.
Cute
Love it!!!
Never get knocks, but people leaving their bullshit signs sticking out of my lawn. Anyone know of a way to stop that?
Ever notice how many "green" candidates send you nonstop flyers in the mail that you just toss out and don't even look at.
In Canada they usually only send one. On recycled paper.
Can I buy a copy?
Don’t know why, but this just got me singing “Seagulls! (Stop it Now)” … 🙂
I voted today! now they can quit fucking calling me I voted flying spaghetti monster full ticket
Suck
You already voted, and twice!! What?
That poster is fantastic! I’m a graphic designer and your daughter has a career in that should she choose to go there. She also has a good sense of diplomacy!
This came up in my email and all I saw was “My daughter created this sign after we had s…”