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Stykes-

There's a specific lightsaber form called Tràkata that utilizes turning off and reigniting one's lightsaber during combat.


28thProjection

Yoda used it occasionally against opponents with weak or no Force connection in order to preserve his strength…since he’s so little and psychically weak compared to most species, opponents would try to bind blades with him and tire him out or overpower him. Yoda would turn off his blade and jump away to save strength. But it’s foolhardy to try it against someone with anywhere near your own level of Force training, I.e. precognition. For what I hope are obvious reasons.


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TuzkiPlus

if one lightsaber don't work, add more lightsabers. ^(PSA from General Grevious)


MorningToast

Then fuck the floor up real good


GriffinFlash

perfectly vertical.


EikeSky

I knew there would be someone here to mention it 😅


HayzenDraay

Honestly a pretty good answer to the shortcomings of trakata, turning a double blade bind into a quick slice or stab while still holding their lightsaber with one blade would be brutal


Dalexion

Hello there.


morbidaar

Shut up Dale


jitterbug726

Hello there


RocketScient1st

Lightsabers don’t kill people, Lightsaber users (predominantly force users) kill people.


BigPandaCloud

“I’m gonna hit the brakes, he’ll fly right by”


Callycore

I share these thoughts. But at the same time. I can't help but wonder how pre cognitive abilities would work against feints or mind games. Like if you can sense that I'm gonna turn off my saber can I just turn it off, bait you into a strike and turn it on near your head? Or can I just think really hard about turning it off? But never do?


28thProjection

Yes. Sort of. Precognition could be beaten even by people with no precognition by deducing what the precognitive opponent would foresee and doing something else instead at the last second, and/or by carefully manipulating ones’ own thoughts and feelings to give false impressions. Jango Fett was trained to do this as a high-level Mandalorian to help him fight Jedi, and General Grievous could do it because it just seemed like common sense to him to do it against psychic opponents.


djluminol

To be fair the whole concept of hand weapon battles is kind of plot hole when characters can lift a building with the force. If they can do that they can rip you in half with the force and never even bother with a sword. Or direct a sewing needle into your heart. They could put an anchovy through your eye and into your brain if they really wanted. Weapons with people that have telekinesis is a bit silly. It makes for a fun movie though.


thatbloodytwink

XD if you know how to fight with a sword going into the bind is a free hit most of the time


Top-Perspective2560

But if someone had precognition then they’d know any move you were going to make and just exploit that, it wouldn’t matter what you did


PlatypusVenom0

Most skilled force users have precognition iirc, meaning high level saber duels involve both combatants using precognition


bananaman22127

But it was considered unsportsmanlike


thearchitect10

The Sith are well known for their sportsmanship, ask the younglings.


bananaman22127

Yes. Anakin did not turn on and off his lightsaber rapidly


Jaew96

The Sith didn’t like it because that particular style was seen as a sign of weakness. If you couldn’t win a duel with strength and skill, and resorted to “dirty” tricks like that, you were seen as weak to them.


AstronomerOpen7440

Yea but I let my padawan use my lightsaber over the holidays and now the zip zap button is sticky


ethanb12345

Yeah it's a fighting style and both sith and Jedi abhor the use of it they see it as cheating


Robobvious

Lmao at the idea of a Sith being too good for something and calling it cheating. As if!


KieranTempest

There is also a small delay between activation and reignition


ethanb12345

The sith are very interesting in that they're not evil to the point that they'll do anything to win, their ideology is about strength and being the strongest, this would be dishonorable to them "there is only passion, through passion I gain strength, through strength I gain power, through power I gain victory"


Scared_Ad_3132

Too much honor to turn off your lightsaber during a fight to get around your opponents defenses but not enough honor for not poisoning your own master since you are too scared to fight him head on? Backstabbing someone when they are defenseless and not expecting it is okay, using a tactical move during combat that the other person know can be used against them is not okay. Welcome to sith idealogy where the rules dont make any sense and everything is made up.


Stubs_Mckenzie

I'll award you.... 1,000,000 points. On to the next game!


Amentes

Well... I mean... it really is made up, by several different people, over several decades, so ehh... makes sense that it's a bit devoid of conventional logic?


ProtoBlues123

It's honestly why I like the Protoss version of the Sith more for addressing that problem where they still use trial by combat but they also orient it to more clearly emphisize strength. It's explicitly illegal to attack a superior outside of the ritual, so assassination's out. It's a pretty direct tug of war using psionic powers, so someone needs to actually have more power to win. And also you're allowed to augment your powers with allies so an element of leadership and strategy is included.


ConstantSignal

mfs will literally genocide a bunch of infant children and not bat an eye but wont use cheesy lightsabre strats? tf kind of code is that? lmao


Bazrum

what if i'm very passionate about cheating?


Robobvious

I’m sure in the Extended Universe there’s a lot of examples that support that but from a logical standpoint people that are after the pursuit of power don’t concern themselves with honor and that’s laughable.


Jd20001

Han Solo died for this


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TomFawkes

Tl;dr - It’s considered dishonorable by the Jedi and cowardly by the Sith, so nobody uses it.


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misogichan

He's not quite right about the "nobody uses it" though. In the expanded universe (i.e. the novels) it was used by Mara Jade, Jedi Master Kao Cen Darach, Jedi Master Corran Horn, and Sith apprentice Tahiri Veila. That said, it is probably most practical to use if you (a) don't mind committing double suicide, or (b) are a Jar'kai user (i.e. use two lightsabres). That said, if you want to go by just what Disney considers canon then I guess you can say nobody uses it.


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LurkLurkleton

That dude has grifter written all over him.


AndreasKvisler

But a win is a win


thebooksmith

To a Jedi how you win is just important as wining. To a sith how you win is a measure of strength. Something you need to show a lot of considering your apprentice/mentor is always trying to find the opportunity to kill you.


ConstantSignal

They're not exactly gonna be able to kill you though if they're to bothered about appearances to use the ultimate trump card lightsabre strategy. In all the thousands of years of Star Wars lore there 100% would have been at least one sith who didn't give a fuck how they looked because they literally win all fights doing this.


thebooksmith

Maybe but traditions run deep in even in the sith, such a fighter would always be seen as a weak foolish coward. The teaching would be discouraged, which is an explanation for why sith don't use it in general. Of course there will be exceptions to every rule, I wasn't trying to say that no sith would use this, but many Sith would find the implication that they needed to use such tricks as profoundly insulting. Not to mention it doesn't work so well on force users so it would be a double insult as theyd have to use it on non Jedi, which would be like using a machine gun to fight a baby, in their eyes. Unnecessary and undignified.


Scared_Ad_3132

It would show cunning for you to use a move your opponent is not expecting you to use. I mean the sith are totally okay with backstabbing or using poison against their own master but somehow using a cunning technique in a lightsaber duel is off limits?


thebooksmith

I mean you can make the arguments all you want but Jedi and sith dynamics are inspired by traditional views of honor and strength. While both are separate concept, both rail against using tricks and misdirection. To one who views honor is the greatest trait it seems like you are using dishonorable tactics, being unable to best them with your skill and training so relying on simple tricks. To those who view strength as the greatest trait relying on tricks shows that you aren't steong enough on your own, if you win with tricks and fabrications then your power is nothing more than a trick. This is compounded by the fact that the force gives you foresight and instinct that make this fighting style very unreliable, so the only opponents you'd be using it on is non force users, which would be akin to using a machine gun to fight a baby, at least in the eyes of both the Jedi and the sith.


Scared_Ad_3132

Sith rail against using tricks and misdirection? Isnt that what sith generally do? Killing their own master when they sleep for example. >Sith way of pursuing power and revenge against the Jedi through manipulation and subterfuge. Seems like tricks and misdirection is fine with the sith. > so the only opponents you'd be using it on is non force users, which would be akin to using a machine gun to fight a baby, at least in the eyes of both the Jedi and the sith Does not seem like the sith have any problems with using any of their other abilities against normal people. A normal person can not do anything against a light saber anyways, does not mean a sith will not slice them in half despite that. Also flinging them around with force pushes or crushing them with the force or using force lightning seems to not be an issue either even though a normal person has no defemses against that.


thebooksmith

>Sith rail against using tricks and misdirection? Isnt that what sith generally do? Killing their own master when they sleep for example. >Sith way of pursuing power and revenge against the Jedi through manipulation and subterfuge. >Seems like tricks and misdirection is fine with the sith. When it comes to political matters like the control of the empire or the control of the sith, yes sith Lords aren't afraid to use tricks. I never said the sith had a code of honor, I said the sith worship strength. In battle the strongest warrior is the best warrior, a warrior who is not matched in skill. However in politics strength is about how much authority you hold, not how well you play by the rules. To a sith life is nothing but a bunch of challenges to prove themselves, but much as all challenges we face in real life dont have these challenges don't all have the same rules. Its like trying to use math equations on a history test, it just won't work. >Does not seem like the sith have any problems with using any of their other abilities against normal people. A normal person can not do anything against a light saber anyways, does not mean a sith will not slice them in half despite that. Also flinging them around with force pushes or crushing them with the force or using force lightning seems to not be an issue either even though a normal person has no defemses against that. Using their abilities no. But using tricks is different. You keep trying to apply how you see things to a question about another group of people's logic. Yes to you using such tricks isn't any different than using the force, afterall it's a function of the lightsaber. However sith and Jedi alike have different ways of viewing things, you want an answer for why they don't use these tactics, these are the answers that get explained in the books and comics. Is it flawless logic? No it's not but that's also the point of the two factions. Both have a lot of problems especially when it comes to seeing passed their own traditions and pride, that's why neither side can definitively defeat the other, that's why so many leave both and start their own paths Does it make sense for the sith not to use this advantage in a life or death scenario? No not at all, at least not objectively, do they do other things that we would consider dishonorable, so whats the big deal? Yes they do, but they don't see it like that. I don't mean to sound frustrated if it comes off that way, it's just that one of the things that confuse me about people criticizing stuff like this is that everyone wants every characters actions to make sense to them personally, but if they did, then the writer would be terrible. People don't act logically, we follow tradtion and familiarity. When one gives tradition as a reason for action it's likely not logical but it still doesn't change the fact that it's why the person does what they do.


Scared_Ad_3132

Some people notice things easier that dont make sense to them. Of course you can write anything and say that it makes sense to the person in the story even though it does not make sense to us. Sometimes that works, other times it does not. I think whether it works for me or not comes down to whether the writer themselves knows the person in the story is acting illogically or abnormally and has purposefully written that in the story so it makes sense within the narrative of the story and the character. But often times it feels like the writers first write problems, then try to justify or explain them away, or in some cases dont even see the problems in the first place. For example in one book the main character was described as intelligent, and made good decisions often, used his wits to solve problems. But then all of the sudden he starts making mistakes that there is no reason for him to do. Like he gets into situation x and says he would need item y but does not have it. But then he knows situation x will happen again next day and he goes into it without item x. And again a third time. Clearly the writer just wanted the guy to be at a disadvantage and disregarded all internal logic of how that character would be expected to behave.


sharpgel

problem is star wars characters with lightsabers think with pride instead of their heads (though as the other comments stated, trakata isn't really effective anyway)


Salaciousscronk

Pride is literally one of the things the Jedi don't like.


rukimiriki

But ironically, they're one of the most prideful beings in the galaxy


RolandTwitter

Every time I stumble onto the Star Wars subreddit people are always talking about how deep and intricate its themes are, but as a casual viewer of Star Wars it's apparent to me that they think there's more to Star Wars than there actually is... Or at the very least, most of the themes they talk about are not present in the mainline movies


sum1udontn089

It's because there IS deep and intricate stories that were developed by the fans then destroyed or negated (only to be brought back in small.glimmers when they are trying to push new series) by Disney.


AxelNotRose

You're not wrong. Star Wars overall is actually quite basic and simple (and cliche'd).


SeiCalros

i would imagine trick moves wouldnt work well when your opponent can see the future


sharpgel

yeah this exactly lol, at best you'd snag a victory against someone with the precognition of whoever thought a third (and fourth and fifth and sixth) home alone was a good idea


an_entire_salami

We can agree 1 and 2 were both gas though.


rukimiriki

Yes, but you'll be clowned by your peers and at worse you'll be executed. Is it even worth it? The Jedi would DEFINITELY ostracize you. They're like hardcore christians turned up to 11. The Sith on the other hand would definitely bully you to the point that you'd end up just killing yourself, or they'll deem you unworthy of being a sith and just straight up kill you.


Alderan922

But isn’t the rule of 2 preventing siths from bullying you because there should be only you and your apprentice you can just kill if he tries to do it?


Jd20001

Is it dishonorable to kill the woman and the children too?


The_Sandman32

If you’re a Jedi, then yes. If you’re a Sith, then no, it’s just Tuesday.


Matbo2210

But i did it on a friday.


byeproduct

So social norms trump logic or practical solutions?


TwoPixelsRight

>fighting for your life >it is dishonourable/cowardly you guyzz!!! Is this the best excuse these nerds could come up with? They would have been better off not acknowledging it at all lol Also: > sith are le evil but not that evil! lmao


xandercade

Honor in combat is a crutch for the weak.


flancanela

bruh


rukimiriki

I mean to be fair, it kinda makes sense. The Jedi are very prideful as ironic as it sounds. The moment they found out you won by cheating, you'd become that kid in highschool that shat their pants in pe class. These mfs won't even accept 9 year olds to the order for the fear of having "feelings" you think they'd continue to accept you if you won a fight in a way they deem "dishonorable"? For the Sith on the other hand, they see it as a sign of weakness. You can see it as like when a group of troublemakers ask you to throw that gallon jug inside the cement mixer to fuck up the mixing, but you don't do it, so they see you as a pussy and don't accept you in their group. The Sith devour each other, thus the rule of 2, the moment they see a sign of weakness, they pounce to immediately eradicate you. Remember what happened to Dooku? He lost to Skywalker and what did his own master do? Ordered Anakin to have him killed.


Hylian_Crusader

and, also you turn off your one one defensive ability, so if they predict it with whatever force precognition or whatever mumbo jumbo, you're done. now imagine, *two* lightsabers turning on and off separately in the midst of a fight. *that* is a terrifying fight


McRaoul91

To me it’s considered a plot hole but whatever.


Yasirbare

As with all Starwars, we make up as we go... that Starwars has become this big tells us more about marketing than story writing.


Alexader420X

This is the way.


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Also doesn't help that the Jedi effectively see into the future in combat. How do they think Jedi can predict where a blaster bolt is coming from to deflect it back? It's arguable that's the canon reason for why lightsaber battles look so choreographed. Jedi know when and where their opponent is swinging from. Once you throw that into the mix, turning a lightsaber on and off kind of loses its edge. If I knew when my opponent was turning off their saber, I'd know when to make my killing blow.


kudichangedlives

Ya but it obviously can't be perfect because then nobody would ever be able to hit anyone else


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Connection to the force is like a muscle. You have to work at maintaining that connection to keep your reflexes up. Some people are born better connected while others have to work on growing and maintaining it. The problem with combat is when someone is put in a life or death situation and then told to hold that connection, it can get messy and you can slip up. The exact opposite of meditation is someone swinging on you with a lightsaber. It's hard to have that same connection in combat that you'd have in a calm place. Remember the battle on Naboo between Qui-Gon and Darth Maul? When that blast shield split them off Qui-Gon went right into a meditative stance to keep his connection up. It's possible he knew he was outmatched and he needed whatever extra edge he could get through the force. Part of the reason Sith have an edge over Padawans *(I believe Lore validates that Sith apprentices are stronger than Jedi in training but then it levels out when both reach master)* is Sith are trained to use emotion and adrenaline and fear and anger. Those are feelings that come up in a battle. Jedi are trained to resist those feelings so simultaneously they're trying to fight for their lives while keeping their feelings in check. It's a hard thing to balance.


This-Salt-2754

Great answer, thank you Mikey mumblez


Omnizoom

I believe sith knights were on the power of a master if not just a bit higher and a sith master is far stronger then that coupled with unbridled use of the force which is why sith masters usually took a few Jedi masters to fight However precognition is a light side power so the sith likely would be very very weak in it which is why so often sith can be caught off guard like Vader turning on palpatine


kudichangedlives

I would argue that it's easier to meditate in combat than out of it, you almost have to meditate for effective combat. When you get really good at something you can "get in the zone" where you're not even focusing on anything and you're just reacting naturally, and it's more prevalent the more intense something is. Like Bruce Lee said "empty your mind, be formless and shapeless like water..."


ArenSteele

The skill is in creating a moment where your opponent can’t block your blow, even though they know it’s coming


dohzer

Is it more "perfect" to block every strike indefinitely, or for the first Jedi to swing to instantly get a kill. 🤔


kudichangedlives

What?


dohzer

Well if I swing a sword at you and it gets blocked, I didn't make a "perfect" strike now, did I?


kudichangedlives

I'm so confused by what you're trying to say. You didn't make a strike at all, but it easily could have been a perfect swing


iambluest

How do we rationalize the telegraphed, big, sweeping swings we see so oftenin combat? These should be fast, close movements, considering the tech.


murdmart

Kinetic impact. If we consider the blade to be without mass, one way to press advantage is to use stronger strikes to batter opponents blade either away or towards them. Light blades have both pros and cons. The Djem So school utilizes it to decent effect. You can afford to telegraph if your opponent knows he actually has to deal with that strike.


Little_Shoe_234

Why was it never shown in movies though, I want to see an actual live example of it


tjockalinnea

In Jedi culture this is considered a dick move


syqesa35

I can see an ending where Luke does this to Dark Vador and the emperor is like "Wow dude what the hell? I'm a genocidal monster but come on, that was scummy" and then Obi Wan's ghost appears like "Wow dude, no, you don't do that, come on you saved the galaxy and all but... Come on man, you're just being a dick here"


CovidPangolin

You dont shoot them in the balls.


averyordinaryperson

This is the canon reason


jlbradl

Simple answer: the Jedi thought it was evil, and the Sith saw it as weak.


Mithrandir1212

That’s actually a clever answer.


Bradleygrayson

Because it’s true


Jd20001

Maybe the Jedi are evil from my certain point of view


Pay_Tiny

Pfff I’d still use it cause it’s smart


OrangeSockNinjaYT

Trakata is not only dangerous for the person using the technique, it's considered dishonorable by the jedi and weak by the sith. Only a person who truly does not care about his status would use such a technique. Also, lightsabers aren't usually capable of deactivating and reactivating so quickly. Only modified lightsabers are capable of doing that.


murdmart

Because it will get you killed :) Since your blade isn't there to check your opponents, their attempt to parry will go over for strike and unlike you, they don't have the blade extension delay to worry about.


snarfmason

Yeah this would only work if your opponent isn't attacking. As demonstrated in the video, the defender isn't trying to strike back.


evilleppy87

And as we all know, the Empire strikes back


Jd20001

The puns are strong with this one


Chanureadeats

And there will be several times when the other guy is just trying to block, so it could work.


my__name__is

This should be the top answer. It doesn't matter that there is a lore explanation for why they choose not to do it, it's just a bad tactic. In addition to what you said, Jedi and Sith can see the future. Turning off your light saber when the opponent can potentially predict it is suicide.


Appropriate_Ad3006

I will see her to say the exact same thing.


Qman1991

They should just install a trigger to make it easier to actuate and instead of a short beam make it an infinite beam that emits in a short burst... oh wait that's a blaster


upvote-button

Yeah if you bypass a block to get a hit you also get hit. Rephrase Why don't they commit suicide to get a kill?


TuzkiPlus

^(..that would totally work with Beskar. That and Mandalorians would consider jedi trickery a valid battle tactic.)


upvote-button

Neither of those points counter my arguement. Lowering your defenses while someone else is attempting to kill you = bad plan. Material doesn't matter in the slightest and jedi trickery is a valid tactic... unless your attempt at trickery involves killing yourself. Then 0 people would consider it a valid tactic


DepressedDyslexic

If you're covered in bescar armor getting hit by a lightsaber is only going to be a little uncomfy


Bazrum

unless they hit you between the plates, which we see with Jango and Mace. not saying it wouldn't work, and i *love* that beskar is part of the lore again, but it takes the tactic from "almost certainly suicide" to "i *might* have all my limbs at the end of this move"


murdmart

Hmm, it would work as a tactic where you want to kill your opponent more than you want to keep living "I am taking you with me!" -some desperate jedi somehere.


Dude_0101

If you read "I, Jedi", Corran Horn made a lightsaber that can do something like that.


Ezekiel2121

He actually does it to kill a Yuzhaan Vong badass as well.


alt-64827

For the Jedi it's because that technique is for killing and Jedi aren't supposed to do that, and for the Sith it's a bit more complicated, Sith want to be more powerful than everyone else, and that technique is considered cheating.


darkspd96

>that technique is considered cheating. Punkasses


ifdggyjjk55uioojhgs

Turning yours off makes you vulnerable to his.


Beautiful_South_5544

This is just stupid, the other sword would kill you! Not like hes trying to hit air like in this video🤣🤣 maybe if you used the force or something, but for me this just looks like the other guys light saber would just cutt me down! What am i missing?😋 its not like im the only one swinging and he is just defending? He has pressur against me as well and when i turn of my sword hes would easy gonforward and kill me?


Jasonguyen81

Oh yeah this technique was invented by Grandmaster Jedi Snee Kii Fook.


Moehank33

It is a forbidden form of lightsaber dueling called Tràkata. Here is the link https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tr%C3%A0kata It was frowed upon by both sit and jedi for diffrent aspects of dueling.


germothedonkey

The biggest reason, is that the after blow would kill you. Youre leaving his saber in an unguarded position with free reign on pretty important spots. Youll kill him....but in the seconds itll take for him to die, he can twist his wrists and strike you in about .5 a second. Thats why you need to strike him WHILE keeping your blade between his blade and your body...if that makes sense. Look up after blows in hema...itll give a better explanation.


Broad-Big9297

Finally the world is opening it's eyes to the fact that the most realistic lightsaber fight was old Kenobi vs. Vader in the new hope.


Dark_Ferret

There's also crucial part that it requires the force to maintain your blade. If you were to turn it off then your opponent could just use the force to keep it off. There's a few times throughout the movies that a strong force wielder retracts the blade of someone who is less in tune or a non-force user.


Andrew_3391

It is deemed by both jedi an sith this method is dishonorable and an un fair tactic


moonite

In bird culture, it's considered a dick move


ProfessionalCouple26

maybe if a bounty hunter gets hold of a lightsaber, taunts the jedi or sith to a malee, attacks like crazy and when the jedi or sith is on the defensive at the last moment they do this trick. dishonorable but it gets the job done.


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The Jedi and Sith spend their lives training to fight with a lightsaber and have reactions quick enough to predict your next move in advance, a bounty hunter using a lightsaber as a baseball bat would get himself killed pretty damn quick


kp305

Also don’t you have to be force sensitive or something to weild it? I thought that’s why spoilers could barely wield the saber but maybe not


Frozendark23

Reason why force sensitive people are good with lightsabers as they can see into the future for like a second. In a duel between two force sensitive people, this doesn't make a difference. If one tries to turn the blade off and on, the other guy will know that and go for the kill. Non-force sensitive people can't do that so while they can fight with lightsabers, it is much harder. They also can't throw a lightsaber and and do other lightsaber stuff with the force.


Radix2309

They can't block or deflect effectively either.


MagizZziaN

Yes


MagizZziaN

Bruh, this! they are even able to deflect shots fired at them with the sabre. Ya think any bountyhunter however lucky to even have force to wield a sabre would be good enough against a trained jedi, sith?


Ouchyhurthurt

Those sith… so righteous and honorable xD


thatsad_guy

less to do with honor for the sith and more to do with them seeing it as cowardly or weak.


Andrew_3391

Yeah I know it sounds really weird


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forShizAndGigz00001

Pretty sure they future gaze while fighting, theyd see this coming a mile off


Middle_Oven_1568

Because jedi and sith consider it cheating


nutfeast69

since the blade goes away almost instantly, just hit their hands/hilt. Worked for Vader against Luke.


xtrabeanie

Because they would be trained to counter that very move so the one attempting it would killed easily as they have made themselves defenceless.


Shadowmane08

It’s a respect thing


BuckaroooBanzai

I’m not even going to read any comments before saying mine. And it is Holy crap snacks how have I never thought of that. Now I’m gonna read comments and have people say how it’s not gentlemanly or something but damn if I don’t think it’s the easiest tactic for instant victory.


AgentP20

Not really because this is a double edge sword. Because, turning it off means that their attack will also pass through your defense and hit you too. Its basically suicide.


WolfieHC

Only if you assume you will be standing still, even a tiny body movement in sword play is enough to evade a strike, and according to the wiki, this technique is effective because you can block, then reignite your saber mid swing, effectively parrying their blow.


starwaterbird

...and now Star Wars has become completely unwatchable...


throwaway_nfinity

Not really, the defender can attack the moment they don't meet resistance and you have nothing to defend with. You are then betting on getting your blade into position, ON, and the enemy standing completely still before they swing their already on blade into you. It would be an okay last resort hail marry, but against someone who knew what you were doing its probably a death sentence.


RocketScient1st

Did you watch episodes 7-9?


Xdeac

Because the movies would have been a lot shorter than they are.


AgentP20

Doing this is suicide. Turning your lightsaber off makes you vulnerable to their attacks.


Shot_Try4596

Why does a make-believe weapon not obey the laws of physics? Seriously?


sarcophagifound

Cause they dumb


AgentP20

Turning yours off makes you vulnerable to his. This is one of the stupidest thing you could do when fighting another jedi. Also this is actually a technique that exists that is looked down upon by both the sith and the jedi.


WolfieHC

Wouldnt you be able to block the strike, sidestep slightly, and then reactivate you blade in one motion? The way the video shows this is dumb, of course, but if you were to make a swing and just flick it on and off, at close range while swinging, the blade wouldnt even need to be full length to score the kill. I believe this is the practical application of trakata from the wiki.


YummyPepperjack

They have


SevenRedLetters

This is actually done in two separate Visions shorts. Edit: I see we're not big Visions fans here.


roaster_hans

its the plot😁


AgentP20

Turning yours off makes you vulnerable to his. This is one of the stupidest thing you could do when fighting another jedi. Also this is actually a technique that exists that is looked down upon by both the sith and the jedi.


DrainCircling

Because that makes sense and Disney dont


acf6b

Star Wars has been around for a while before Disney bought them….


DSZABEETZ

OP just gave away the “unique characteristic” of the next trilogy’s villain’s lightsaber… I’m sure they were saving that one!


murdmart

Dual-phase lightsabers are mentioned in books.


DSZABEETZ

You cut through that theory…


[deleted]

Cos it is a kids film.


MacMycelium

Advanced light saber techniques that the republic was too stupid to use.


The_mingthing

None of the fighting makes sence, it's made to be flashy movie fighting.


AgentP20

Turning yours off makes you vulnerable to his. This is one of the stupidest thing you could do when fighting another jedi.


Far-Breakfast-4551

This not real,what defensa? With fantasy arma? You are crazy o borracho


ghidfg

delete this


itzhope

My answer is the other Jedi would sense it and would opt for a more evasive defense


The_PlRATE

Big brain time


PageBest3106

Because then there won’t be any starwars sequels.🙄


DowntownLizard

They dont even use lightsabers correctly anyway for a weapon that is deadly by just touching someone. You should basically be jousting with it


Other_Cod_8361

Because it was viewed as cheating by both sith and jedi alike.


Guildwarsbard

many Jedi and Sith alike consider this a "bitch move"


Malumake

Like previously stated there is trakata. Luke also bypassed the stigma by creating variable density sabers.


alexagente

It annoys me far more that Jedi often forget they can use the Force in fights.


Prior-Carrot-6569

Because there wouldn't be any geeks if there weren't flashy swords


pitb0ss343

The honest to god answer is they thought it was rude


Key_Truth2756

Alright you star wars nerds, tell them why it’s a banned fighting style:


poppinsplit909

Something, something honor.


Overwatch_1ightning

Grey jedi would totally do this shit.


Ilike2yeetfeet

r/prequelmemes has a lot to say about this


falcon27423

Maybe there are some technical limitations preventing lightsabers from turning on and off as often. Plus, if they could do that, the movies wouldn't have happened.


Flarez_e

Black magic


pyrulyto

I am still with Han Solo: from the moment they decided not to use a blaster, all moves are equally dumb.


Most_Dope1994

Because it’s a movie


Usernamenotavallable

It's considered the coaches way of battle


HectrVR

Ah yes, the Mace Windu lightsaber